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@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 07:59 AM

Regarding Green Arrow's arrows, are they non-fatal?  As several guys, including the Flash, were shot with them?  Those two in the Flash's back would have done some serious damage.


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 08:05 AM

It's not the arrows, it's where they land.  But yeah for the most part a huge plot point for Arrow has been Oliver taking 'non lethal' routes.



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Posted 12 December 2018 - 10:15 AM

Also, the Flash's powers allow him to "speed-heal" from injuries that would be much more damaging to non-metahumans.



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Posted 12 December 2018 - 10:24 AM

For those who watched this and also currently still watch The Flash, recall how earlier in this season Nora showed Barry a newspaper from 2049. Said newspaper featured an article that mentioned the forthcoming event that this three-parter is building up to, so this big event has been in the works for a while now.

 

That article is referencing the "Flash Missing in Crisis" article that's been part of the show since the beginning. And is from 2024, so probably not actually about next year's Crisis crossover. 



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Posted 12 December 2018 - 10:52 AM

Unlike the 2024 article we've been seeing since season 1, though, that new 2049 article draws explicit connections (beyond the presence of red skies) between the 'Crisis in 2024' and Crisis on Infinite Earths, though, mentioning Psycho-Pirate and the "worlds lived, worlds died" tagline.

I'm guessing that future events - perhaps this season's Flash finale - are going to further alter the timeline and cause the crisis to happen five years earlier.

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 07:05 PM

Was watching this with my mom and sister when I caught the classic 60's Batman reference in part 2, when Kara picked up the Shakespeare Bust out of the box in Bruce's office.  It looked just like the one that 60's Bruce used, tilting the head back and flipping the switch to open up the secret entrance to the Batcave.

 

I was surprised my mom didn't catch that before me, since she grew up with the 60's Batman. :D


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 07:59 PM

I must admit, I was surprised by the teaser at the end. I thought THIS was supposed to be their version of that, but no, they're going whole-hog on it.


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Posted 13 December 2018 - 11:18 AM

Regarding Green Arrow's arrows, are they non-fatal?  As several guys, including the Flash, were shot with them?  Those two in the Flash's back would have done some serious damage.

As I've explained repeatedly back when Arrow first started out, arrows are actually less damaging than bullets; unlike bullets, Arrows don't (usually) break off and roll around inside a body doing further damage.

Most historical deaths from arrow wounds were actually from well after getting hit, from either blood loss (arrows are designed to do more damage coming out, so they have to be removed carefully, not just grabbed-and-yanked) or infection.

In a modern setting, with paramedics less than a half-hour away and single shots to shoulders or legs, most of Oliver's victims would stand a good chance of surviving, assuming the hit wasn't instantly fatal.

(Unfortunately, mooks on the ground screaming in pain and clutching their wounds would be distracting to a modern audience raised on the "one-shot-kills" school of Hollywood gun fights. Reality is unrealistic.)

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Posted 13 December 2018 - 01:21 PM

I'm pretty disappointed in the whole crossover.  The first part was a lot of fun.  The trip to Gotham in part 2 was just there to introduce Batwoman, and didn't really add much to the story.  The third part was...a conclusion?  The whole third part felt kind of nonsensical.  And then it turns out the whole thing exists as a prelude to next year's big crossover.

 

There were definitely some good, fun parts in there.  But the overall story just didn't work for me.



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Posted 13 December 2018 - 03:24 PM

 

For those who watched this and also currently still watch The Flash, recall how earlier in this season Nora showed Barry a newspaper from 2049. Said newspaper featured an article that mentioned the forthcoming event that this three-parter is building up to, so this big event has been in the works for a while now.

 

That article is referencing the "Flash Missing in Crisis" article that's been part of the show since the beginning. And is from 2024, so probably not actually about next year's Crisis crossover.

 

Why wouldn't it be? As Jalaguy points out:

 

I'm guessing that future events - perhaps this season's Flash finale - are going to further alter the timeline and cause the crisis to happen five years earlier.

 

"Crisis on Infinite Earths" in 2019 is surely the event that The CW has building up towards, hence the name-dropping of Psycho-Pirate and his on-screen debut.


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Posted 13 December 2018 - 03:37 PM

You know, for the third part being a Supergirl episode, the majority of her show's cast in the episode sure felt felt more like guest stars in their own show. :p


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Posted 17 December 2018 - 07:50 AM

Saw the three parts. Would have been better if they didn't use the name Elseworlds since it's not really Elseworldsy.

So the brain switch was just cuz Destiny wanted Flash's powers but was still figuring it out so it was just a mistake? Then he saw Supergirl (Superman wasn't there) and decided he wanted those powers instead, ok.

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 02:16 PM

Man, Superman is gone again? Boo.

 

At least now I don't have to wonder why Superman isn't giving Kara a hand when things get really bad in National City.



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Posted 17 December 2018 - 02:52 PM

As much as it hurts me to have Superman gone, I prefer it over the silliness of season 1, where his only presence was on Skype, or as a fast-moving CGI effect.

The bigger issue is that National City has a large population of aliens with abilities that would be useful for attack and defense, and we've never seen any of them lift a finger/claw/tentacle when things are going bad :p

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 02:42 PM

Well with the Supergirl shows pretty strong anti alien climate currently its not too hard to figure out why. Im waiting for the inevitable planetary shield and the aliens are going to pay for it.



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