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@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 09:50 AM

I like it.  I do love seeing movies down the line dealing with the fallout from the previous one. 


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 10:27 AM

Huh. Maybe they're not going the obvious route with this

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 12:15 PM

Yeah, I'm sold. I'll be picking "Homecoming" up today to get caught up, I think.

 

I am in love with that Spidey suit.

 

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 12:42 PM

Huh. Maybe they're not going the obvious route with this

 

Does anyone who has ever read a Spider-Man comic believe half of the stuff said in this trailer?


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 12:56 PM


Yeah, Mysterio's entire deal is that he's always a fake who does fakey things with suped-up movie FX. To the point where if something seems fakey in a Spider-man comic you got like a 90% likelihood on guessing Mysterio will show up shortly.

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 01:17 PM

I hope that MJ figuring out the secret isn't a fake out. And I also hope she doesn't become the damsel in distress because Peter told Mysterio about her.

I find it a little odd to see Happy getting into hijinks in Europe. After that bittersweet cheeseburgers line in Endgame, I figure he'd be staying close to help raise Morgan. (How many of Tony's other friends could or would?)

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 02:31 PM

Assuming that is Happy. One of the fun things about Mysterio being in this film is literally everything after "You do not ghost Nick Fury!" could be elaborate illusions.



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Posted 06 May 2019 - 02:36 PM

Oh I'm not actually talking about Mysterio not being a fakey fake fake, no.  I'm talking about how they're gonna move forward from Endgame that is.

 

Ironbite-I fully expect the 2nd act twist to revel that Mysterio is exactly the dumb ass in a fish bowel that he is.


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 02:37 PM

Mysterio's outfit is really great.  They managed to make something ridiculous look cool.


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 02:59 PM

I like the marriage of the iconic fishbowl with his more 90s extreme smoke face phase.



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Posted 06 May 2019 - 03:01 PM

So that dark boiler-suit Spider-Man with the flip-up goggles - is that Spider-Man Noir or someone else from the comics?

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 03:13 PM

After that bittersweet cheeseburgers line in Endgame, I figure he'd be staying close to help raise Morgan. (How many of Tony's other friends could or would?)

Y'know, now that Peggy's gone and he's handed off the shield, Steve's not doing anything. . .

(I mean, you know that literally every surviving original Avenger is gonna be her Uncle. I almost pity any kid who tries to bully her.)

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 03:31 PM

I'm curious as to Mysterio's end goal here. Setting himself up to be a hero through illusion is a means in and of itself, but the MCU is established enough that he has to realize he's screwed the minute a real threat appears.

 

My curiosity along these lines is piqued even more with this trailer. Mysterio's set himself up with Fury. Fury's not exactly going to be amused by Beck's antics when everything comes to head.

 

....Endgame spoilers....

 

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 04:53 PM

aw hug. I was ready to just let the MCU sit for a while after endgame but that trailer is like..hugging awesome.



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Posted 06 May 2019 - 04:59 PM

Right? Infinity War was supposed to be my getting off point. Then I had to see Endgame. Now, as a lifelong fan of Mysterio and having seen Endgame...I gotta watch FFH.

 

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 06:57 PM

The instinctive reaction to hearing Mysterio talk about a multiverse is that he's lying, because Mysterio, but a part of me wonders if this is also Sony's way of connecting MCU Spidey with their non-MCU projects. "That's right, Tom Holland's Spider-Man and Venom and Morbius and animated Miles Morales all 'count'!"

 

Hey, maybe MCU Spidey, with his large support group of friends and confidants who know his identity and his wardrobe of super suits and lack of J. Jonah Jameson and now a butler with a jet eventually becomes the super-together blonde Peter from Spider-Verse.


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 10:09 PM

 

After that bittersweet cheeseburgers line in Endgame, I figure he'd be staying close to help raise Morgan. (How many of Tony's other friends could or would?)

Y'know, now that Peggy's gone and he's handed off the shield, Steve's not doing anything. . .

(I mean, you know that literally every surviving original Avenger is gonna be her Uncle. I almost pity any kid who tries to bully her.)

 

 

I'm sure the core Avengers care for Morgan a lot, but I singled out Happy because he's the only one who's not going to miss her piano recitals because the Living Laser broke out of prison.  Although you bring up a good point, I never thought about what Old Steve would be doing next.



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Posted 06 May 2019 - 10:36 PM

Although I will always be sad we never got this.

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 10:43 PM

...is it wrong that I want Mysterio to be on the level? Because really, that would be a nice twist.


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 11:20 PM

but a part of me wonders if this is also Sony's way of connecting MCU Spidey with their non-MCU projects. 

 

Aren't these films creatively under Marvel's control, though? Sony profits from them under the deal they made with Marvel, sure, but I thought part of that deal was that Marvel has total control over the writing. If that's the case, I'd think introducing the idea of a Multiverse might lead us eventually into the MCU version of the Secret Wars rather than being an attempt to tie in Sony's other Spider-Man works to the MCU (which I could see Marvel considering for Into the Spider-Verse, but probably not Venom).





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