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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 November 2020 - 12:58 PM)

Just stick a Megatron head on Optimal Optimus.

@  Sabrblade : (25 November 2020 - 12:46 PM)

There was also an evil-looking black and gray redeco of the RobotMasters toy

@  Arazyr : (25 November 2020 - 11:54 AM)

That's KIND-OF what I consider the Throne of the Primes Primal to be...

@  wonko the sane? : (25 November 2020 - 11:16 AM)

I would buy the hell out a nemesis primal...

@  Bass X0 : (25 November 2020 - 11:15 AM)

I'm surprised there's not been a Nemesis Primal given all the Nemesis Primes.

@  unluckiness : (23 November 2020 - 03:17 AM)

The real Drifts were the Windblades we made along the way

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 November 2020 - 02:25 AM)

Drift-kun 2 Electric Boobylube

@  ▲ndrusi : (22 November 2020 - 11:36 PM)

I'm pretty sure Drift 2 was Empire of Stone.

@  Sabrblade : (22 November 2020 - 10:06 PM)

I thought people said Prime Wheeljack was Drift 2.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 November 2020 - 03:51 PM)

Windblade was Drift.2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 November 2020 - 02:44 PM)

Drift with boobs.

@  Rycochet : (22 November 2020 - 11:50 AM)

I can't imagine a live action movie version of Windblade being all that different from Drift. Not my thing, but not the worst thing I've ever seen.

@  Bass X0 : (22 November 2020 - 09:54 AM)

The thought of Movie aesthetic Windblade makes me feel sick.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 November 2020 - 08:47 AM)

Though, the fact that Japanese people would pay for Windblade toys in the $30-40 range doesn't mean they'd pay however much MPs are going for now.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 November 2020 - 08:44 AM)

Back when I made a habit of checking Mandarake for pre-owned TFs, Windblade's toys went for surprisingly high prices. By which I mean not lower than the original price.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 November 2020 - 08:15 AM)

If she's in the next movie you might get her.

@  unluckiness : (22 November 2020 - 07:58 AM)

Japan didn't get most of the IDW comics and are the target market for MP. They basically know windblade from a few crappy pack-in comics and a show that wasn't particularly popular there. Unless they start cranking out Cyberverse MPs, it's not very likely.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 November 2020 - 04:24 AM)

Again, depends if she's popular enough in Japan to warrant it. Our view of which characters are popular is not the same as Takara's.

@  Bass X0 : (22 November 2020 - 01:53 AM)

So characters like Windblade then.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 November 2020 - 07:19 PM)

They're complicated and expensive to design. By necessity, they're gonna be restricted to well-known characters who are more likely to sell.

@  Bass X0 : (21 November 2020 - 07:05 PM)

I don’t think Masterpiece toys should be restricted to only show characters.

@  Rycochet : (21 November 2020 - 03:09 PM)

If she wasn't in the Sunbow cartoon, Live Action movie or Beast Wars and can't be repainted from someone else, she's not getting an MP.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 November 2020 - 12:44 PM)

They'll make their money back if they include the metal thong...

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 November 2020 - 12:29 PM)

Is she popular enough in Japan that Takara would even try?

@  Paladin : (21 November 2020 - 11:23 AM)

depends. will that one also have a giant metal thong?

@  Bass X0 : (21 November 2020 - 11:10 AM)

Should there be a Masterpiece Windblade?

@  -LittleAutob... : (20 November 2020 - 12:46 PM)

EIGHT WORDS! THATS A RECORD! XD

@  wonko the sane? : (20 November 2020 - 09:08 AM)

So you were hired by a middle easterner! AHA!

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 November 2020 - 11:45 PM)

that's eight words

@  Bass X0 : (19 November 2020 - 03:56 PM)

"I only want to hear one word from you... The name of the guy who hired ya!"

@  Maximus Ambus : (19 November 2020 - 12:41 PM)

It's great how they reference G1 concepts like this one features the harmony from the episode Carnage in C Minor and and Slugslingers featured anti electrons from Grimlocks New Brain.

@  Steevy Maximus : (18 November 2020 - 10:01 PM)

Or at least those little story blurbs like Beast Hunters had. Especially for stuff like Selects which tend to exist in their own little side world

@  Maximus Ambus : (17 November 2020 - 04:03 PM)

I got me Legends Soundwave, Be cool if the next Generations toyline had a mini comic with the instructions.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 November 2020 - 03:42 AM)

Aw no unusual activity on my Paypal Ebay, Amazon and Netflix account in one day! All I have to do it verify on those E-Mails and I'm all set..... wait a mo, I'm not on Netflix!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 November 2020 - 11:56 PM)

I swear though.. The idea of "Catch up" is stupid.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2020 - 11:25 PM)

That's irritating, but it sounds par for the course with new hardware release. Within a year, there'll probably be some good stuff out there that does it all.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 November 2020 - 11:23 PM)

4K/HDR switches are.. iffy.. Because most of them can't do 4K and HDR at the same time.. Or can't do 120hz... and all sorts of things the new TVs have built in, and the new consoles use...

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2020 - 11:18 PM)

Maybe now that the PS5's made the whole 4K thing a little more mainstream, the hardware will start becoming more common. I know that's one of the hopes the physical media community has for the 100GB discs the PS5 is going to be using. Prior to this, they were very expensive tor replicate compared to a regular blu-ray and not used very often

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2020 - 11:17 PM)

Up to now, there really haven't been a whole lot of 4K disc players to choose from... Samsung stopped making them altogether when they couldn't compete with the others, so your main choices are a few models of Panasonic or Sony

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2020 - 11:14 PM)

Is there no such thing as a 4K/HDR switch yet?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 November 2020 - 10:10 PM)

Which is fine.. But that still doesn't explain why they arn't putting out up to date HDMI switch boxes to get.. more money.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2020 - 09:59 PM)

My only TV with a respectable number of ports is my OLED 4K/3D, which has 4 HDMI, 2 USB 2.0s, 1 USB 3.0 and some weird proprietary thing that acts as both component and composite, depending on what you need. But it retailed for $10k when it first came out (I bought it 14 months later for less than half that). THey're going to get as many corners on less expensive sets as they can, which usually means only providing 2 HDMIs.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2020 - 09:55 PM)

I mean, there are some decent ones for under a grand. But yeah, I imagine that's what they're thinking. Most people I know, unless they're film or A/V aficionados, all they've got hooked up to their TV is a digital cable receiver and perhaps a game console and dated DVD player

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 November 2020 - 09:45 PM)

TM2-Megatron... If that is their assumptions.. That is one of the stupidest way to think.. Especially since Multichannel receivers way to fricken expensive for that. 3000 is way to expensive.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2020 - 09:11 PM)

They probably assume the people who actually need a lot of ports are the type of consumers who'd have a decently high-end Multichannel receiver. Whereas those people who don't need many connections probably don't even have a blu-ray player or anything. Maybe just a gaming console for the kids and an old DVD player.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2020 - 04:04 PM)

I saw that movie. I don't want jim carrey in my head.

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 November 2020 - 03:43 PM)

Soon beam TV programs into brains with a neural transciever anyway.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2020 - 03:28 PM)

I'm surprised they keep reducing the number of ports on TV's.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 November 2020 - 02:52 PM)

Ahh.. No.. I mean an HDMI 2.1 switcher box to give you more imputs on a TV. :D Those should have been released in preparation of the XSX and PS5 considering their touting 2.1 features. :D

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 November 2020 - 02:25 PM)

Switch Pro, not even a thing.


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 12:01 AM

Happy 36th birthday to Macross!

 

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What fond memories do you have of this magnificent metaseries that gave us Generation 1 Jetfire?


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 01:00 AM

What fond memories do you have of this magnificent metaseries that gave us Generation 1 Jetfire?

 

Robotech.



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Posted 03 October 2018 - 02:06 AM

Only macross i saw when i was a kid was clash of the bionoids. Story made zero sense but my god the animation! The opening shot of the macross and the valks and all that detail blew my eyes. It was amazing. Even more so when you realize it was all done by hand. No cgi to be seen

Animation-wise, that movie had yet to be topped, at least in my opinion. Granted, the amount of anime ive seen is miniscule compared to whats available nowadays

I finally saw macross maybe 10 or so years ago? Whenever adv did the dub with mari iijima. Other than the name changes and a few story details being changed (supervision army, protoculture), i never saw much difference between macross and macross saga :p


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 03:45 AM

I've still never watched any of the original Macross, which is weird because I've loved every other (canon) series. Delta, in particular, was a show that pushed pretty much all my buttons when I really needed something to distract me from the 2016-ness of 2016. I didn't come to Macross at a time for it to be formative for me, but love giant robots, I love shows about The Power Of Music, and planes are cool, so it's a franchise that'll always get my attention.
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Posted 03 October 2018 - 12:41 PM

Macross II.  You're not canon now, but I still love you.  Even with the weird floating Macross head at the end.  You gave us the VF-II and VF-2JA* and those are two pretty, pretty jets (*going with Palladium's name here). 

 

I never finished Macross 7 before it got pulled from Youtube.  I wish I had.  My fansubs stopped at, uh, episode 12 or so way back when.  Right during the Protodevlin Vampire attacks.  Still, you gave us Fire Bomber and that hasn't been topped yet.  Also "The Galaxy is Calling Me," with the great "Heart & Soul" duet at the end. Ooh and Dynamite 7.  Such a great OAV.

 

I've been going through Frontier again. Still haven't made it to Delta.  I guess that's one I'll have to poke around for, since there are no official distribution channels (yet). 

 

I wish I still had a VCR to watch my copies of DYRL. Poor tapes have probably crumbled at this point.

 

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 01:02 PM

Love SDF Macross, Macross: DYRL, and Macross Plus.  My first exposure (outside of possibly some Robotech - as a kid I found too boring) was Macross II when it was first released.

 

Got interested in Macross (prior to Macross Plus coming out but after II) via old VHS tapes of Robotech my cousin had.  I was around 13 at the time (in the early to mid 1990's) and could appreciate the story more than my 5 year old self could.

 

I've seen some of 7 and the subsequent films / movies stemming from that.

 

Saw the first episode of Zero (didn't get to watch the rest).  Because of Harmony Gold's stranglehold on anything Macross, I haven't really seen anything that was made after Plus and 7.  Which is a shame to me.

 

Have all the Macross 7 Trash manga.  Have all the reissue 1/55 Valks as well as some Yamatos.  Had some of the Plus stuff that was released in the late 90's too, as well as many figurines.  I've seen Mari Iijima perform and had my photo taken with her.  I've seen Yoko Kanno perform too.

 

Just got this beauty in the mail.  Haven't had time to fiddle with it yet.

 

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 01:28 PM

Have all the Macross 7 Trash manga.  Have all the reissue 1/55 Valks as well as some Yamatos.  Had some of the Plus stuff that was released in the late 90's too, as well as many figurines.  I've seen Mari Iijima perform and had my photo taken with her.  I've seen Yoko Kanno perform too.

 

I've got the first Yamato YF-21.  I skipped the YF-19 and VF-11 because there were QC problems at the time.  I think I remember those early Yamato toys crumbling right out of the box.  Kind of wish I had gone for the VF-11, because Valkyrie toys got super expensive in the intervening years.

 

I don't have any "official" VF-1s outside of one of the 1/100 Toynami releases (which also has quality issues).  I do have the green VF-1J knock-off from way, way, way back when. Never did own a G1 Jetfire.

 

I've got the originals of both the YF-19Kai Fire Valkyrie and the VF-17D Nightmare.  Picked them up in the mid/late 90s.

 

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 02:03 PM

I had the Yamato YF-21 (like you) and the VF-11.  The VF-11's leg joint shredded over time.  I think I glued it.  I may have eventually thrown one or both away.  Either that or their in storage with the other Yamatos.


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 02:11 PM

Macross II. You're not canon now, but I still love you.  Even with the weird floating Macross head at the end.

 

I wish I still had a VCR to watch my copies of DYRL. Poor tapes have probably crumbled at this point.

 

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i still have my vhs tapes of those as well. dyrl is still the crappy dub but its the proper version of it as it shows hikaru ALIVE after destroying boddole zers ship (i always assumed he died in the cotb version). picked it up a few years ago. i saw "few", but its probly been 20 years now lol

 

macross II i like due mainly to haruhiko mikimotos charater designs and the music. mikimotos people are GORGEOUS. i especially like how he does eyes

 

ive often thought of taking my vhs of dyrl to walmart and have them put it on dvd, but they want $20 to do it. i also want to take my original, unspecial editioned star wars triliogy vhs tapes and put them on dvd too


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 02:48 PM

I had the Yamato YF-21 (like you) and the VF-11.  The VF-11's leg joint shredded over time.  I think I glued it.  I may have eventually thrown one or both away.  Either that or their in storage with the other Yamatos.

 

I had mine out a few months ago.  Transforming it was iffy.  I was certain something would break - more than the usual bits that pop off - but it held together.  Probably its last go-round, though.  I'm not sure I want to risk it falling apart on me like some of my other toys (*looks at Revoltech VF-1J*).  Still does make a good fighter, even with the ugly underside. 

 

 

ive often thought of taking my vhs of dyrl to walmart and have them put it on dvd, but they want $20 to do it. i also want to take my original, unspecial editioned star wars triliogy vhs tapes and put them on dvd too

 

 

Will Walmart do copyrighted stuff?  I might find that worth it for my copies of DYRL, Flashback 2012, and Love, Live, Alive.  Assuming the VHS hasn't fallen apart (and that I still have them, now that I think about it). I'm still disappointed that the "Robotech" version of Love, Live, Alive didn't include the original.

 

The Macross II Movie DVD is still pretty cheap on Amazon.  Macross Plus, not so much. I'm guessing that'll change in a few years though, once whatever is going to happen with HGUSA happens.

 

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 04:52 PM

My first experience of Macross that wasn't Robotech was Macross Plus. It was and is amazing. And the aerial battle at the end is just beautiful.

Caught the last part of Macross II on an Anime Sky channel at some ungodly hour of the early morning. It was pretty good and weird.

Managed to watch most of the ADV SDF Macross dub on youtube, but could never buy them since their prices skyrocketed on Amazon and then they disappeared. Bummer. Managed to watch Clash of the Bionoids and a pretty ok fandub of DYRL on youtube too. I keep looking for subs of series like Frontier or Delta or Zero, but i keep missing them.

Would to get even one of the dx chogokin Valks, but by god are their prices to rich for my blood.

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 04:59 PM

With me, I had heard vague details over the years about the Japanese sci-fi franchise Macross , its U.S. ripoff adaptation Robotech by that one satanic company, and how it spawned Jetfire in Transformers. Then in 2015 I saw a teaser for the upcoming Macross Delta and decided to check it out. That in turn prompted me to look at Macross Frontier. And boy do I love Frontier!

 

My favorite single scene: the climax of the second Frontier movie, featuring the eponymous "Sayonara no Tsubasa" .

 

 

Just got this beauty in the mail.  Haven't had time to fiddle with it yet.

 

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 05:16 PM

 

I had the Yamato YF-21 (like you) and the VF-11.  The VF-11's leg joint shredded over time.  I think I glued it.  I may have eventually thrown one or both away.  Either that or their in storage with the other Yamatos.

 

I had mine out a few months ago.  Transforming it was iffy.  I was certain something would break - more than the usual bits that pop off - but it held together.  Probably its last go-round, though.  I'm not sure I want to risk it falling apart on me like some of my other toys (*looks at Revoltech VF-1J*).  Still does make a good fighter, even with the ugly underside. 

 

 

ive often thought of taking my vhs of dyrl to walmart and have them put it on dvd, but they want $20 to do it. i also want to take my original, unspecial editioned star wars triliogy vhs tapes and put them on dvd too

 

 

Will Walmart do copyrighted stuff? 

 

 

i did think of that as well. guess i could ask em next time im there


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 05:47 PM

I'mma just leave this here:

 

 

Also, your reminder that Nikki Basara saved the space whales from space whalers by proving that they're sentient by getting them to sing along with him:

 

 

(Gamlin's face at 5:48 is priceless)

 

(Basara is the best.  His parents told him music could move mountains...So he sang at the mountains for training.)


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 06:01 PM

You know, the YF-19 is still one of, if not my favourite Valkyrie designs. I think its the forward sweeping wings. It just looks cool!

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 06:45 PM

Macross is kinda an oddity for me, it helped get me into anime, yet "helped" me out of one aspect of anime.

 

Back in the mid 90's when I was first getting into anime (due to Ronin Warriors and Teknoman), Clash of the Bionoids was one of the first things I rented at Blockbuster, followed later by Macross II, then buying Macross Plus later.  The Robotech VHS were widely available at the time, and, knowing of the connection between Macross and Robotech through years of reading Wizard magazine and the like, I got hooked into Robotech.

 

I got a copy of DYRL VHS later, and accidentally paused it during the frame or two near the end where one of the Macross missiles is replaced with a Budweiser can.  That was quiet amusing when we saw that.

 

I did get one of the Yamato VF-1s (that had the removable legs to transform, otherwise a good figure) and a VF-19 that was a sky blue in color, not the original version.  That was cool, but the paint scraped off during transformation...

 

Now to the bad influence, Macross 7.  I watched the fansubs (which I paid for) with my friend, did not like the characters, music, plot (mostly the plot - saving the universe with music that I don't care for), and still is one of the only series where I wish the main characters were killed off.  I can actually trace my subbing of subtitles straight back to my experience with it.  But to each their own.

 

On a happier note, while I was in Japan earlier this year, I picked up the DX Chogokin SV-262Hs Draken III.  I have only opened it, and not transformed it (do not have room to display for the moment). I do very love the mecha designs of the series, overall much more than the Gundam series.

 

And I really wish I had bought all the Macross DVDs back when ADV redubbed it, only got the first few.  Was strange hearing Vic Mignogna instead of Tony Oliver, though.


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 07:24 PM

There's nothing more 90s than piloting a fire red transforming mecha with a guitar.

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 10:06 PM

Great stuff everyone. :)

Telly, I had thought that Hikaru had died at the end of Clash of the Bionoids too. Since you never see him after and Minmay and Misa's conversation almost seems like he may have. :doh

Good thing I saw DYRL shortly after.

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 05:19 AM

I think Macross 7 might still be the one Macross show i know of, but have never seen any of.

Oh yeah, just had a quick look at dx chogokin Valks on Amazon. Here in the uk, they are anywhere from £190 to £750 or more. Its crackers.

The ADV Dub was pretty good. I'd like to think if HG does, finally, lose their iron grip on things. We might see that get a rerelease, along withnew dubs of Macross shows. One can dream.

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 11:22 AM

Yeah, they're insanely priced because they're nearly impossible to get a hold of first-hand.  





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