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@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!


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#41 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 09:06 AM

I think they changed that for the crossover in Disney Adventures.

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 09:53 AM

The C&DRR chapter of the crossover kinda compromised on the humans vs. animal people bit. At the start of its story, it had animal people, but after the first page or two, when it began proper focusing on the Rescue Rangers and their enemies, the story kept the faces of the full-sized people hidden, showing only their legs and torsos while their faces were cut off by the tops of the pages (a la Nanny from Muppet Babies). This allowed at least the museum security guards in the story to be vague and ambiguous as to whether they were normal humans like in the show or animal people like in the first couple of pages and in the other chapters of the crossover.

 

Though, as I myself have been trying to go through all these old shows recently for a big project of mine, I've found more and more instances where normal-looking humans have made some small appearances in the shows that featured cities populated by animal people.

 

However, I'm currently taking a break from all that this week in order to binge watch the old Aladdin TV series (on thewatchcartoononline.tv since the episodes on KimCartoon all have their video and audio completely out of sync with each other). I gotta say, that show is better than it has any right to be. I've already gotten through 37 episodes in the past two days and can't get enough of it. So far, very few episodes have been lackluster, with the majority being very entertaining. Especially Iago and the Genie, providing their special blend of 20th Century wit and comedy to the Arabian folktale setting of Agrabah. I don't eveb care that it's not Robin William voicing Genie, Dan Castellaneta still keeps Genie as fun and endearing as he always is. And any episode with Jason Alexander and James Avery as Abis Mal and Haroud Hazi Bin is a joy to watch, as those two make an excellent comedy duo. I only just got to the episode that debuted Mirage (I'm watching the episodes in the production order given by Disney Wiki, rather than viewing them in broadcast order), so the villains so far before her have been mostly funny rather than serious (barring a couple of one-off world-ending monsters who were killed off by their respective episodes' endings). Mirage, however, I remember from watching this show as a kid to be one of the more serious recurring villains, so I'll look forward to seeing more of her in action. I haven't gotten to any of Mozenrath's episodes yet either, so I'll also have him to look forward to as well. But getting back to Mirage, I noticed that, unlike the rest of the people in this show, she's not a normal human but is instead an anthropomorphic cat person, like those of the Mickey/Donald/Goofy-related shows. I guess I'll just have to keep watching to see if that' ever explained or not. But anyway, this show is awesome and is a crying shame that it's never come to DVD beyond a small handful of Jasmine-centric episodes being released as part of the Disney Princess DVDs. And not that I mind that (Jasmine's a great character in this show, some of her finest moments are in here rather than in the movies), but the whole show itself getting a full DVD release would be amazing.


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Posted 27 February 2019 - 10:44 AM

Mirage's costume suggest she's Egyptian, so anthropomorphic cat-people wouldn't be unusual.

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 11:14 AM

Mirage's costume suggest she's Egyptian, so anthropomorphic cat-people wouldn't be unusual.

In a world of normal humans? Wouldn't the Egyptians of the Aladdin/Hercules world have also been normal humans?

 

 

(Yes, Aladdin and Hercules had a crossover that put them in the same world)


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Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 12:39 PM

Have you seen Egyptian mythology? They were all furries.

(There were actually multiple cat-goddesses, of which Bast was only the most notable. [Shout-out to my girl Mafdet, who was basically the goddess of cops, bounty hunters, and those who deliver mice to their humans.])

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 01:03 PM

I just remembered. During the song sequence of "A Whole New World" in the first movie, Aladdin, Jasmine, and Carpet fly through Egypt at one point and witness an Egyptian working on the Sphinx. Said Egyptian was a normal human man.


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No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 01:17 PM

Mirage could be an Egyptian deity. Or maybe, just maybe...
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Posted 27 February 2019 - 01:48 PM

My thinking with Mirage was that she was some sort of magical entity of some sort, stronger than a genie but clearly not as strong as Chaos was. And yeah, she was an interesting character - we didn't get many hints about her story, but what we did have was compelling.


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Posted 27 February 2019 - 02:02 PM

I would put Mirage as either a sorceress or deity rather than typical Egyptian. The only real past I remember getting from the show was at some point her and Phasir were once an item.

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 02:09 PM

She does live in the ethereal world of Morbia, which seems to be in its own reality separate from the "real world" that Aladdin and friends live in. She might have originated from that world, even, which would make her a trans-dimensional enemy of Aladdin.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 05:13 PM

I always assumed she was a demon.  There are a lot of Mesopotamian demons with animal features, so she fits right in.



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Posted 27 February 2019 - 07:13 PM

In her debut episode, Iago did call her "evil incarnate", though according to Genie, she was not the first being to bear the title (10,000 years ago, before Genie was trapped inside his lamp, "evil incarnate" was "a hyper-intelligent wombat with a forked tongue").


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 02:42 PM

Okay, so, in my continued viewing of Aladdin, I just finished an episode which featured a kingdom populated entirely by anthropomorphic animal people who talk, wear full clothing, and have a complete human-like society and civilization, making Mirage no longer stand out as much (even if she may be from another world anyway).


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 05 March 2019 - 09:19 PM

Finally reached the episode that features Chaos (who is basically the Aladdin equivalent of Q from Star Trek or Mister Mxyzptlk), in which he provides some additional, if subtle, insight as to what Mirage is, exactly. He calls her an Elemental.

 

Elementals are magical creatures that are, naturally, tied to the four classical elements. Aside from Mirage, two types of Elementals have been seen in the show: Earth Elementals and Water Elementals. Of these two types, only one of each kind has been featured (that is, in the episodes I've watched so far). The Al Muddy, which are humanoid beings comprised entirely of mud, and the siren named Saleen, who sought to steal Aladdin from Jasmine and make him her personal boy-toy and slave.

 

As for Mirage, it has not been indicated as to which element she, as an Elemental, would be affiliated with. 

 

When Chaos refers to her as such, he does call her an "evil Elemental", but one could argue that both the Al Muddy and Saleen are evil as well. And Chaos did refer to Mirage's kind in the plural form ("You know, the problem with you evil Elementals is that you're always obsessing!"); likewise, both the Al Muddy and Saleen were obsessed in their own objectives as well: The Al Muddy have one-track minds of attacking anyone and everyone they encounter, and Saleen was singleminded in her goal of stealing Aladdin for herself. Ergo, though Mirage is definitely evil, I wouldn't take Chaos's descriptor of "evil Elemental" as any proper name for her Elemental type (e.g. - simply "evil Elemental" rather than "Evil Elemental").

 

She's certainly neither a Water nor Earth Elemental, nor does she strike me as much of a fire or air creature. With how much pure magic she uses, as well as her residing in an ethereal realm, my first guess would be that her element is aether. But according to Wikipedia, only the main four elements are related to Elementals. But then again, this is fiction and is allowed to be bend the rules of real world mythologies and such, so... *shrug*


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 05 March 2019 - 11:29 PM


Nothing to do with the cartoon really but I feel like "Mirage" would be a good name for someone who is half fire and half air Elemental. Because heat and air is what creates an actual Mirage in the air.

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 07:00 PM

Got some great news and some not-so-great news:

 


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 07:48 PM

BOO

WHAT EVEN IS THAT

Seriously, Disney. Is making these things so hard to come by really how you want to operate?

It's not like Disney is getting the cash from those inflated aftermarket purchases.

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 11:10 PM

Honestly, it's like Disney views A Goofy Movie and its related media as some sort of red-headed stepchild.

 

I'm still shocked that Goof Troop even got a complete (minus one episode, that is) HD digital release on Amazon Video at all, let alone while its DVD release (in standard definition) is still incomplete by one volume (two out of three have been released).


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 10 March 2019 - 10:06 AM

Guys I wouldn't worry too much about these films being hard to get.  When Dinsey+ goes live they are sure to be on it, as Disney ahs said their entire catalogue of movies will be available on the service.



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Posted 10 March 2019 - 11:22 AM

Yeah, but it's not the same as owning a physical copy in HD.


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If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

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