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@  Benbot : (20 November 2018 - 06:54 PM)

We're not actually back, this is all a dream.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 November 2018 - 06:12 PM)

It was, we're just humoring you.

@  Arazyr : (20 November 2018 - 02:17 PM)

I was wondering if that was just me...

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 November 2018 - 02:01 PM)

And we are back after that round of Forum downtime.

@  Pennpenn : (20 November 2018 - 06:30 AM)

Feels like it's been so long since there's been a proper storm that I've been awake for. This one even has pink lightning, which always great.

@  Pennpenn : (20 November 2018 - 06:22 AM)

So long as he has an R by his name. Even if the R is for "Recepticons"

@  Nevermore : (20 November 2018 - 06:18 AM)

Sadly, my first reaction was "And I'm sure way too many people would seriously, unironically really vote for the blatant bad guy and still cheer at him while he's slaughtering the masses because they saw him on TV and he's cool."

@  Nevermore : (20 November 2018 - 06:17 AM)

Someone over at TFW2005 just discovered an old photo of political campaign signs, with one saying "Vote Megatron! Global Domination."

@  Paladin : (19 November 2018 - 07:02 AM)

let's be real. at this rate we're not lasting until 2075.

@  Maximus Ambus : (19 November 2018 - 06:34 AM)

The rest of the world may build a wall around the US in 2075.

@  Nevermore : (19 November 2018 - 05:53 AM)

Tell an conservative conspiracy maniac that women are literally the Satan's spawn out to infect humanity with the gender virus that will turn everyone into communist Muslims who eat children, and they will be like, "Well of course! That makes perfect sense!"

@  Nevermore : (19 November 2018 - 05:49 AM)

It's evidence of Poe's Law.

@  Nevermore : (19 November 2018 - 05:48 AM)

The world is insane.

@  Nevermore : (19 November 2018 - 05:48 AM)

Geeez, I just read a story about a liberal satire Facebook page that would publish absolutely outlandish, ridiculous made-up conservative propaganda, stuff so absurd nobody with half a brain could take it seriously... and conservatives are taking it at face value.

@  Pennpenn : (19 November 2018 - 02:27 AM)

Oh don't make me go talk to Peter Dutton. My week has been painful enough as it is...

@  Telly : (18 November 2018 - 09:13 PM)

he cant leave quarantine until he talks to the king of the potato people

@  Pennpenn : (18 November 2018 - 01:03 AM)

Debateable. It's a sunday anyway. Wonder if I'll still feel up and ready to go tomorrow. Don't want to take too many days off leading up to the end of the year.

@  MEDdMI : (18 November 2018 - 12:01 AM)

@Pennpenn hooray! Now you can leave quarantine.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 November 2018 - 08:58 PM)

The national tour is currently in Raleigh-Durham.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2018 - 06:29 PM)

Ok, feeling much better now.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 November 2018 - 06:20 PM)

Is hamilton playing in hamilton?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 November 2018 - 03:34 PM)

Maybe the show in the city?

@  wonko the sane? : (17 November 2018 - 01:21 PM)

To the show or the city?

@  The Doctor Who : (17 November 2018 - 11:01 AM)

Niiice!

@  RichardT1977 : (17 November 2018 - 10:48 AM)

My mom won two tickets to Hamilton!

@  wonko the sane? : (17 November 2018 - 09:46 AM)

Welp, good morning so far. My brother helped me get my sister in law's christmas gift, and reminded me I still had to get my mom's calendar for next year.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2018 - 08:22 AM)

Oh yeah, feeling feverish. What fun.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 November 2018 - 10:07 PM)

My father used to ask his boss that question. Then he STOPPED asking, and got used to twiddling his thumbs. Made things so much easier, and didn't actually change how his bosses thought of him.

@  Nevermore : (16 November 2018 - 07:31 PM)

So of course you wait until the end of your shift like everyone else, THEN you walk up to the manager on duty and ask him what you're supposed to do during the requested overtime.

@  Nevermore : (16 November 2018 - 07:30 PM)

Fun: The employer allows (paid) voluntary overtime, cannot backtrack on the permit, and before the regular end of your shift, you notice you're rapidly running out of work.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 November 2018 - 06:27 PM)

Fear is a state of mind.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 November 2018 - 06:25 PM)

Did you just assume my sociopolitical status?

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2018 - 06:13 PM)

Oh stop being such a pack of drama monarchs!

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 November 2018 - 06:11 PM)

Too late. They can smell your fear.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 November 2018 - 04:10 PM)

Nobody say anything and you'll be safe from the mob.

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 November 2018 - 03:41 PM)

It used to be

@  Arazyr : (16 November 2018 - 02:05 PM)

I would agree.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 November 2018 - 01:15 PM)

I say yes, but I imagine many would disagree with me.

@  Paladin : (16 November 2018 - 12:34 PM)

settle a bet: is "drama queen" a gender-neutral description?

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 November 2018 - 08:38 PM)

Sounds like management is the same everywhere :p

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 November 2018 - 08:12 PM)

My bosses are too busy trying to see if they can have their heads up their own asses while still being able to kiss the asses of everyone above them. It'd be amusing to watch if I wasn't one of the ones trying to get everything done to cover for it.

@  Nevermore : (15 November 2018 - 07:05 PM)

He's living by the standard "bow to those below you; kick at those above you. You got more people below you than above you."

@  Nevermore : (15 November 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Whenever we go on strike, he's there with us. He told me that this is the only completely legal way for him to show his own bosses the finger,

@  Nevermore : (15 November 2018 - 07:03 PM)

Well, this guy has been getting flak from above, it's just that he doesn't care. He's doing what he thinks is right. He's easily the smartest of my superiors, and also the one with the biggest balls.

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 November 2018 - 05:24 PM)

Must be nice, having a boss that cares.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 November 2018 - 01:03 PM)

Indeed.

@  Echowarrior : (15 November 2018 - 11:58 AM)

That's a good superior.

@  Nevermore : (15 November 2018 - 06:21 AM)

Arguing in my favor that I was working under sub-par conditions, there were problems with sudden halts of the conveyor and other issues that affected my productivity, and besides, why was this guy giving a feedback to one of HIS subordinates, wich was his job?

@  Nevermore : (15 November 2018 - 06:19 AM)

Also, yesterday he stood up for me when a superior from the department I was sent to was giving me a productivity feedback.

@  Nevermore : (15 November 2018 - 06:19 AM)

So this week all of my superiors save one guy are absent, and I'm not noticing a difference. Which says a lot about this guy.


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#1 D.M

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 04:18 PM

https://www.theverge...-11-13-approved

 

Starting January next year:

-If you live in EU, you'll have to pay a tax for each link you intend to post.

-Fair use will be a thing of the past in the EU. Images and videos containing copyrighted material will be banned, regardless of the context.


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#2 Confuzor

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 04:31 PM

Wow that sounds horrendous.

Tho it would be interesting to see how folks go about circumventing these things.

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 04:50 PM

In before PnR boot.


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 05:00 PM

How... how would they even monitor that?

 

Also, hah, taxing Google for search results is a great way to have no search results.


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#5 MrBlud

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 05:38 PM

I feel like the great majority of sites will (rightfully!) find it easier to just geoblock the entire EU rather than rendering the entire Internet unworkable.


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#6 Copper Bezel

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 05:49 PM

It's so laughable that I can't even be realistically worried about it. Every big scare about proposed US internet legislation has been a fraction of what this implies. It's a joke, every elected representative who signed onto it is a joke, and suddenly Brexit doesn't seem like that bad an idea in retrospect. They'll flop when the money tells them no.


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 05:50 PM

What?  Have the people who came up with that ever used the internet or a computer before?  It's so stupid its unfathomable.  



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 05:51 PM

EU votes to get rid of the Internet, more like it.


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#9 wonko the sane?

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 06:50 PM

Once again: people whom have no experience, practical or theoretical, are attempting to enforce a reality which suits their wants.

 

This is going to fail so spectacularly that even china will be laughing at them: and chine succesfully censors the internet!



#10 Copper Bezel

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 07:09 PM

There's something in the "their wants" that doesn't track for me though. I get that the great IP robber-barons of our age want the "if you take a photograph with our ad in the background we'll erase you from Facebook" part. Who the hug ordered the link tax? That benefits no one. Companies don't want search engines penalized for giving them customers, and have said so when this comes up. Search engines sure as hell don't want to shell out extra cash for no service, and consumers can only be hurt by losing access to either. So who the hug benefits from that? I'd say "Google and Microsoft because they can pay the bill" but obviously they're in opposition too. So who isn't?


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


#11 wonko the sane?

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 07:15 PM

The government that would receive the taxes. How many millions of links are posted per day? For some greedy, sociopathic piece of human garbage, it's a GREAT source of revenue. No one is going to stop using the internet: it's about as close to taxing the air we breath as they can get.



#12 Copper Bezel

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 07:19 PM

It's called a "link tax", but I don't think the government is actually the beneficiary.

 

Article 11 is intended to give publishers and papers a way to make money when companies like Google link to their stories, allowing them to demand paid licenses. 

 

 

This does sound different from past "link tax" proposals, though, which IIRC mandatorily required that businesses were paid for links to their content, to which said businesses understandably rebelled. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 07:33 PM

So switch "government" with "businesses" and you got your answer.  Clueless, stupid, idiotic business owners who hear about the kids and their link clicking and imagine how much they could make by charging for it.  Greedy shitheads looking to monetize everything.

 

It's like the shit publishers like 2K games pulls with microtransactions and loot boxes.  It's blatantly stupid, short sighted and unambiguously greedy, but they're pushing for it because they are literally Captain Planet supervillains. 


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#14 Copper Bezel

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 07:54 PM

Seems like that's mostly working for them though. Even if only in the short term assuming that's the case. While a news site that stops appearing on Google hurts only itself, and all we're going to hear about is how Google is politically biased in which sources it chooses to subscribe to or whatever.
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Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


#15 The Doctor Who

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 08:05 PM

I mean, no one's said they're being smart XD


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 11:36 PM

Could we all just... ignore this? The muppets who came up with this idea have so little understanding of the internet that they probably won't be able to tell if it's being practiced or not.


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Posted 13 September 2018 - 12:35 AM

I mean that was kinda my feeling about it. Like just.. hug em. If you're an EU business you ight have problems ignoring them but the rest of the world can just say hug em. EU doesn't control the internet anymore than any other nation.

 

But honestly this does seem like a very EU thing to do.



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Posted 13 September 2018 - 01:25 AM

I saw the React video on this a day before. Looks bad and all that.

But how is it going to fall apart? Like, probably how would it go? They're make a program to enforce it (like, 2 months?) then implement it. Then they'll get the backlash after, say, 2 months, deem it unworkable and drop the whole thing?

I know China was able to block... YouTube? And fb messenger?

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 02:57 AM

Does it say what they're planning to do with non-EU-based sites that don't play ball? Because yeah, if the plan is to block them, most sites will just give them the finger. Google will probably comply, because they always fold like a stack of cards when governments tell them to do awful things (and ContentID is probably strict enough to comply with Article 13 already). The fewer sites agree to do this, though, the better off the rest of the world will be, because the changes probably won't be limited to EU users.


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#20 Ironbite

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 06:22 AM

Its funny the response to this compared to the one over on tumbler which is about near hysterical.

 

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