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@  Pennpenn : (19 September 2018 - 09:07 AM)

It's an annoying thing to have happen in any game. I'm hoping they actually finish releasing all the story mode parts before 3 comes out.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 September 2018 - 06:24 AM)

Ahh. Hadn't played that in a long time.. Since before the PVP I think.

@  Pennpenn : (19 September 2018 - 04:33 AM)

Kingdom Hearts Union Cross. Specifically the PVP fights.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 September 2018 - 04:31 AM)

What game PennPenn

@  Pennpenn : (19 September 2018 - 03:13 AM)

Man, I love it when you've got limited attempts at something in a game, said game crashes at the end of the thing, so you lose the attempt but don't get any credit.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 September 2018 - 08:44 PM)

I know. I'm back to the classic purple for the first time since the comic theme was introduced.

@  Fenix Twilight : (18 September 2018 - 08:32 PM)

Alright thanks, gonna be weird without the speech bubble boxes but I'll manage.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 September 2018 - 07:59 PM)

Nope, ongoing problem for a bunch of us. The mods know, so... just hunker down and wait. In the mean time: changing themes will sort it out for a bit. Only the comic theme is affected.

@  Fenix Twilight : (18 September 2018 - 05:36 PM)

Is something going on? I'm missing the buttons to go to the newest post and there's no banner for the forum list, it just says "logo" in the corner.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 September 2018 - 06:03 AM)

Leader-1!

@  Whirl Maximus : (18 September 2018 - 02:25 AM)

"huh?" 'chuckle' in every reaction shot. That's all I remember of Armada.

@  Paladin : (16 September 2018 - 07:36 PM)

if youre looking for sympathy its in the dictionary between shit & syphilis.

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 September 2018 - 03:10 PM)

Uuuhhhhhh.......

@  Rycochet : (15 September 2018 - 11:56 AM)

Due to it's concentrated lousiness, even small doses of Energon will age you, yes.

@  Lazy Garou : (15 September 2018 - 10:32 AM)

unicron trilogy video was great, but made me feel a hundred years old.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 September 2018 - 07:32 AM)

Awesome. Good job man.

@  Lazy Garou : (11 September 2018 - 09:30 PM)

cleaning up, mostly.but the little plastic piece where the power cable hooked up was broken. That I managed to put back together.

@  Patch : (11 September 2018 - 04:48 PM)

So he also has White Castle-like qualities?

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 September 2018 - 02:23 PM)

Just keep him away from the plumbing, he's really hard on the pipes.

@  RichardT1977 : (11 September 2018 - 01:22 PM)

Overlord has some castle-like qualities to him

@  wonko the sane? : (11 September 2018 - 12:15 PM)

Fix it, like, found a working power adaptor, or fix it like: there was saudering involved.

@  Lazy Garou : (11 September 2018 - 11:58 AM)

that feeling when you fix something and works like a dream. we now have a working snes in my house and I have tested 10 games on it and they all work.

@  Arazyr : (11 September 2018 - 10:44 AM)

...Now I want a Transformer that turns into a castle.

@  wonko the sane? : (11 September 2018 - 09:37 AM)

You should be careful man, lots of allsparkers life in castle law states. It's a good way to get shot you know.

@  ▲ndrusi : (11 September 2018 - 09:35 AM)

Which house? Mine? Dammit I thought I locked my door!

@  GrungeWerX : (11 September 2018 - 01:20 AM)

GrungeWerX in tha HOUSE!!! WOOT!!

@  TM2-Megatron : (10 September 2018 - 11:54 PM)

There's been consistently good sc-fi flicks; most just fly under the radar as lower-budget or indie pictures

@  Steevy Maximus : (10 September 2018 - 09:28 PM)

If you can forget about that garbage Ghost in the Shell feature...

@  Steevy Maximus : (10 September 2018 - 09:27 PM)

Upgrade is a GREAT dark sci fi throwback film. Kind of feels like the genre has been nailing some good stuff after a LONG time of drek

@  Sabrblade : (10 September 2018 - 06:34 PM)

Hey, Steve is a Vehicon!

@  abates : (10 September 2018 - 04:44 PM)

I thought it was spelled "Stege".

@  Arazyr : (10 September 2018 - 02:10 PM)

So, "I before E, except after Siege"? :D

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 September 2018 - 01:59 PM)

Memorandum to all: the word "siege" is spelled with the "i" before the "e".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (08 September 2018 - 12:55 PM)

Happy birthday to Star Trek and Star Trek: The Animated Series!

@  MEDdMI : (08 September 2018 - 07:55 AM)

*smacks TMM upside the head*

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 September 2018 - 02:51 AM)

& Knuckles.

@  Pennpenn : (07 September 2018 - 11:01 PM)

Re: Coded?

@  Waspinator : (07 September 2018 - 09:14 PM)

Final Fantasy: The Movie: The Game: Pocket Edition HD Boogaloo

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (07 September 2018 - 01:03 AM)

Funny thing is, I think the pocket edition graphics give the game more personality.

@  MEDdMI : (06 September 2018 - 11:10 PM)

Final Finception

@  Waspinator : (06 September 2018 - 10:29 PM)

They've made a PS4 version of Final Fantasy 15 Pocket Edition. For those keeping score, it's the PS4 version of a smartphone version of a PS4 game.

@  wonko the sane? : (05 September 2018 - 09:20 PM)

Ah HA! turns out the trick to installing the rift software was to run it as an admin. Stupid windows 10.

@  wonko the sane? : (05 September 2018 - 04:58 PM)

Awright! I got the display port working! Which means I can now connect my occulus rift!

@  MEDdMI : (04 September 2018 - 10:38 PM)

*just stares*

@  Noideaforaname : (04 September 2018 - 09:36 PM)

Hello there

@  wonko the sane? : (04 September 2018 - 09:06 PM)

Howdy.

@  RichardT1977 : (03 September 2018 - 07:11 PM)

Or just a set of arms and shoulder cannons that combined Legends Godbomber with CW Optimus.

@  RichardT1977 : (03 September 2018 - 07:10 PM)

I still wish someone would make an upgrade kit for Combiner Wars Optimus that transformed from a trailer to a set of limbs with Powermaster shoulder cannons...

@  NotVeryKnightly : (03 September 2018 - 09:48 AM)

I read that as "Basilisky" for some reason.

@  Anonymous X : (03 September 2018 - 03:45 AM)

Basicslly


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#1 Jalaguy

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Posted 04 September 2018 - 05:20 PM

Discuss the issue here!

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 05:05 AM

Well that explanation for information creep is hugging bullshit.


 

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 05:30 AM

Okay, so we're edging ever closer to the Quintesson reveal, right?
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Posted 05 September 2018 - 06:06 AM

Well that explanation for information creep is hugging bullshit.

 

Meh. Why?

 

I'm not sure it was necessary - information creep being an inevitable effect of entropy was fine and there's plenty of established fact that Cybertronians don't remember the distant past very well. But that having had a jolt at one point in particular as part of information warfare doesn't feel especially wrong either.

 

Art was better this issue. It actually felt like there was a planet sized robot tearing things up. Another huge exposition dump, but I'm afraid that's kind of inevitable given the sudden move to bring the book to a close one season early. But it was far from clear if Adaptus/Pharma is actually dead, and a lot of things stop making sense if he is.

 

I did like that Primus always looked like Rung, and had just been mythologised. 



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Posted 05 September 2018 - 07:57 AM

Did...Tyrest and Adaptus just...turn into dust?  Wow.

 

It was...interesting, to say the least, and I chuckled at some of the character interactions, but some of this stuff just feels...kind of unnecessarily convoluted and disconnected from the narrative, I guess?

 

The Omega Guardians live in another dimension, talk through the Magnificence, which is Epistemus, and they want to... eat everything?  What?


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#6 Broadside

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 08:19 AM

Callum has suggested the distressingly plausible possibility that that's the last we're going to see of the Omega Guardian plot thread. It would be a very MTMTE thing to have the higher-dimensional cosmic manipulators defeated by just smashing the thing they're using to manipulate people.

 

But that would also be terrible and would make me so absurdly angry.



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Posted 05 September 2018 - 08:29 AM

I think that the idea that information creep isn't natural, but instead caused by an emp blast from 10 million years ago is exceedingly stupid

 

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 08:47 AM

Okay, so we're edging ever closer to the Quintesson reveal, right?

 

No? What indications are there that Quintessons have anything to do with any of this? 



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Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:04 AM

 

Okay, so we're edging ever closer to the Quintesson reveal, right?

 

No? What indications are there that Quintessons have anything to do with any of this? 

 

 

There have been a lot of longstanding motifs associated with Quintessons relating to Lost Light's mytharc, and every time people's theories for what they were get disproved they move them on to the "next step up" of the mystery.



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Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:08 AM

what

(at the summary on TFWiki, not any of the posts in this thread)

Edited by ▲ndrusi, 05 September 2018 - 09:08 AM.


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Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:11 AM

I can think of a couple ways for the Quintessons to still be involved.

 

The Omega Guardians used to be Quintessons before they ascended!

The Omega Guardians used proxies other than the Magnificence, including the Quintessons!

The Quintessons created the Guiding Hand in the first place!


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#12 ▲ndrusi

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:16 AM

Here's how Bernie can still win.

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#13 Master Fwiffo

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:39 AM

Id much rather the lost light was fighting Unicron with everyone else then doing whatever it is youd call this issue.

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:53 AM

It would have been better to completely leave out those go-nowhere six panels about Omega Guardians. So that means they DIDN'T find Epistemus? And... would that even matter since who gives a shit about the non-Rung GH anyway?

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:56 AM

The Quintessons created the Guiding Hand in the first place!

 

I suppose I can see this one. At this point it would feel like a pointless Big Reveal that exists for it's own sake rather than relating to the actual story. But. Well. Yeah.

 

 

Id much rather the lost light was fighting Unicron with everyone else then doing whatever it is youd call this issue.

 

The fact that they're not involved in the Unicron story but they're still fighting a giant planet-sized Transformer threat to the whole universe anyway sure is a thing that IDW editorial let happen.



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Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:56 AM

Well that was a bunch anticlimactic villain deaths.

Seems to be a theme for this arc.

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 10:38 AM

I HAVE to believe that this is just another case of independent plot ideas naturally leading down to the same path, because two groups of mythological figures not actually being what people thought but still warring amongst each other in the name of Cybertronian expansion just seems WAY too coincidental.

 

And I still don't know what the purpose of Rung's ALTERNATE mode is. Does he have to be in that form to create Matrixes (Matrices?), but as a robot he can only cough up photonic crystals?

 

I fully expect Rodimus to say "Now light our darkest hour" when opening his Matrix during the final assault on Not-Primus. I wonder if Megatron will wield one, too.


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Posted 05 September 2018 - 10:56 AM

This has actually come up in a few places, way back in issue 3 Skids asked Swerve about the Lost Lights mission and Swerve jokingly replied:

"We’ve got to find the 12 fragments of the Primal Key, unlock the Infinity Gate, travel sideways in time, defeat the Agents of Chaos, and restore order to the multiverse."

It's been noted these events have been happening under different names.

 

 

Also I can't help but think Roberts intended for Cyclonus to kill Whirl only, situation and emotionally reversed from how he originally fantasized.I also expected there to be some mystery to Thunderclash, like he'd be a fraud of some sort, maybe he's no different to Pharma, a living corpse being controlled by another party.


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Posted 05 September 2018 - 11:42 AM

People in this issue are just standing around figuring things out and being precisely correct about their deductions.

 

The amount of revelations here is just overwhelming. So now the Magnificence is actually the form of Epistemus which now is possessed by Omega Guardians from the Higher Realms which just got squashed by Nickel. Sheesh.

 

I'm guessing Roberts had a lot of other ideas he wanted to use before the universe was to end, but it would've been better had he left them out instead of breathlessly cramming them all in.


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Posted 05 September 2018 - 12:11 PM

I HAVE to believe that this is just another case of independent plot ideas naturally leading down to the same path, because two groups of mythological figures not actually being what people thought but still warring amongst each other in the name of Cybertronian expansion just seems WAY too coincidental.

 

And I still don't know what the purpose of Rung's ALTERNATE mode is. Does he have to be in that form to create Matrixes (Matrices?), but as a robot he can only cough up photonic crystals?

 

I fully expect Rodimus to say "Now light our darkest hour" when opening his Matrix during the final assault on Not-Primus. I wonder if Megatron will wield one, too.

I'm certain it's just Roberts screwing about not paying attention to other stories.


 

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