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@  Donocropolis : (23 February 2019 - 01:17 PM)

The only thing we've learned so far is that 1 out of 10 doesn't really seem to mind that much.

@  Patch : (23 February 2019 - 12:17 PM)

Alien walls.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (23 February 2019 - 11:15 AM)

Aliens.

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 February 2019 - 10:22 AM)

walls.

@  Donocropolis : (23 February 2019 - 09:18 AM)

SAUSAGES!!

@  CORVUS : (23 February 2019 - 01:13 AM)

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEERADICATOR!

@  RichardT1977 : (22 February 2019 - 11:21 PM)

And don't piss him off, because he'll tell Haruhi who he is and reboot the universe.

@  Bass X0 : (22 February 2019 - 03:22 PM)

Take care of the John Smith who will shake up the world!

@  RichardT1977 : (22 February 2019 - 08:32 AM)

I see I'm not the only one who's watched a lot of Kids in the Hall...

@  Donocropolis : (22 February 2019 - 06:33 AM)

"You can't pay too much for a good pair of shoes"

@  RichardT1977 : (21 February 2019 - 10:56 PM)

Thirty Helens agree.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 February 2019 - 09:41 PM)

People forget the whole phrase. It's "Great minds thing alike, but fools rarely differ."

@  Nevermore : (21 February 2019 - 08:49 PM)

The German version is very straightforward: "Two idiots, one idea."

@  Nevermore : (21 February 2019 - 08:49 PM)

English: "Great minds think alike".

@  Nevermore : (21 February 2019 - 08:49 PM)

Here's an example of a phrase that's charmingly positive in English but self-deprecating in German:

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Turns out the basic figures in the transformers siege line are basically minicons, and my sister is back in the hospital for another psychotic break. It's been an emotional day, and it's not even 1 pm yet.

@  Pennpenn : (21 February 2019 - 12:27 AM)

Maybe, or maybe it'd be more like wood? Y'know, bashing each other with planks.

@  Ashley : (21 February 2019 - 12:23 AM)

Wouldn't pillow fights be like slapping each other with meat?

@  unluckiness : (20 February 2019 - 11:54 PM)

RODO ROLLA DA

@  MEDdMI : (20 February 2019 - 11:14 PM)

they hit each other with full sized vehicles

@  Nevermore : (20 February 2019 - 08:18 PM)

Also, do Softmus Prime and Slumblebee engage in pillow fights?

@  Nevermore : (20 February 2019 - 08:16 PM)

Feathertron?

@  MEDdMI : (20 February 2019 - 08:34 AM)

@Penn Megadown, maybe?

@  Nevermore : (20 February 2019 - 05:38 AM)

The kernel.

@  Nevermore : (20 February 2019 - 05:37 AM)

Who gives the orders in cyberwarfare?

@  Pennpenn : (20 February 2019 - 03:16 AM)

I wonder what Megatron would end up in that context?

@  Sabrblade : (19 February 2019 - 09:21 PM)

It's not "Optiplush"... it's "Softimus Prime"

@  Ashley : (19 February 2019 - 08:19 PM)

I've got the two plushes from the first movie, they're great

@  Shrug : (19 February 2019 - 08:00 PM)

Still have mine, although Optiplush Prime is kind of discolored

@  Shrug : (19 February 2019 - 07:59 PM)

They came out around the time of the first movie with the big merch push, but they were distinctly G1 and everything else wasnt, IIRC

@  Trpodeca : (19 February 2019 - 04:51 PM)

Take another shot Wonko.

@  Trpodeca : (19 February 2019 - 04:51 PM)

prime the lost season

@  wonko the sane? : (19 February 2019 - 01:41 PM)

I did not even know those things were a thing. I guess they didn't do very well cause they didn't make more of them.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 February 2019 - 01:25 PM)

Pfft, Hasbro did that 12 years ago with Slumblebee and Optiplush Prime

@  Xellos : (19 February 2019 - 12:37 PM)

Well, this past Christmas I did see licensed plush Transformers that went from their robot to vehicle mode by turning inside out just like popples.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 February 2019 - 12:02 PM)

Why DIDN'T transformers make plushes ala popples?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2019 - 11:04 AM)

Design in mixed media and make him out of actual flannel.

@  Lancer : (18 February 2019 - 09:24 PM)

Make his fur a red and black flannel pattern

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2019 - 09:10 PM)

Bonus points if you can work in a red and black flannel pattern on his chest plate.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2019 - 09:09 PM)

Might as well make it cliched. Lumberjack moose male and aristocratic deer female.

@  TriBlurr : (18 February 2019 - 08:16 PM)

Or their aristocratic deer.

@  TriBlurr : (18 February 2019 - 08:10 PM)

Thinking of making a pair of moose Transformer OCs, male and female. Thier a lovey dovy pair of lumberjacks

@  Paladin : (18 February 2019 - 06:56 PM)

they also have NOTORIOUSLY poor protection on their servers. do NOT keep a credit card on file there.

@  Telly : (18 February 2019 - 04:48 PM)

i just checked my past tfsource orders, and theres no sales tax charge

@  Arazyr : (18 February 2019 - 11:16 AM)

They haven't (yet, at least) on the stuff I currently have in my Stack. Haven't had them ship anything for a while, though, so I don't know if they will when I do...

@  Benbot : (18 February 2019 - 11:04 AM)

Does TFSource charge sales tax?

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2019 - 09:47 AM)

That's because, once upon a time, the people whom owned the animals weren't the people whom butchered them. So the pig was owned by a saxon who spoke english, but butchered by a french speaker. So a pig got cut up into PORC chops.

@  unluckiness : (18 February 2019 - 03:25 AM)

Hank Pym<<<< Hank Hill

@  PlutoniumBoss : (18 February 2019 - 01:28 AM)

In that case, I don't see anything wrong with English speakers calling it what it is in English. Even though we technically use the French words for what comes out of it. "Beef", "pork"...

@  Bass X0 : (17 February 2019 - 02:04 PM)

I’d like a Siege Thundercracker who has his regular blue colors Cybertronian jet mode which transforms into a robot mode with his Action Master colors. Looks like it could be possible.


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#1 Jalaguy

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Posted 04 September 2018 - 05:18 PM

Discuss the issue here!

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 05:15 AM

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"He learned, almost too late, that man is a feeling creature and, because of it, the greatest in the universe. He learned, too late for himself, that men have to make their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be any gift of perfection from outside ourselves. And, when men seek such perfection, they find there's only death, fire, loss, disillusionment, the end of everything that's gone forward. Men have always sought an end to toil and misery. It can't be given; it has to be achieved. There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from man himself."

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 06:38 AM

Sanctuary Station burning has me thinking back to Optimus's dream again, and it suddenly occurs to me that there's a very good chance Bludgeon's Worldsweeper is getting crashed into the White House...

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 07:01 AM

This issue felt like it was treading water a bit.

 

Also, Shockwave's big plan didn't involve checking nobody moved the talisman? He seems strangely non-plussed about his 11 million year plan collapsing, even for Shockwave.

 

Are we supposed to assume that all the beastformers/Bludgeon etc have been co-opted by Unicron and Shockwave just doesn't know it yet (which is weirdly unobservant given he was there last issue)? Or are there two Optimus Primals wandering around?

 

The backup rather suggests the end will be some wibbly wobbly time travel reset of everything that wipes out the current timeline.


Edited by The Phazer, 05 September 2018 - 07:07 AM.


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Posted 05 September 2018 - 07:12 AM

It's always fun when you get to watch your city blow up, and you can point out specific landmarks going up in flames.
"He learned, almost too late, that man is a feeling creature and, because of it, the greatest in the universe. He learned, too late for himself, that men have to make their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be any gift of perfection from outside ourselves. And, when men seek such perfection, they find there's only death, fire, loss, disillusionment, the end of everything that's gone forward. Men have always sought an end to toil and misery. It can't be given; it has to be achieved. There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from man himself."

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 08:10 AM

Aw, Cosmos.  Even Sky-Byte went out like a champ.

 

I don't recall seeing Buzzsaw dying, so I assume he survived since he's awesome.



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Posted 05 September 2018 - 08:20 AM

I like that it's looking increasingly plausible that Unicron has just taken on the form of Cybertron's mythical uncreator as his newly-obtained robot mode. There's something very poetic about that, since he's basically the embodiment of Cybertron's sins come back to haunt it.


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Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:11 AM

Why. Isnt. Pyra. Magna. Dead. Already.

(Not kidding. This character annoys me to no end. Best case scenario: she and Spike somehow get in a fight and kill each other)

Edited by Devcon, 05 September 2018 - 11:30 AM.

Stand back, I gotta practice my stabbin'. HA-HAAAA!

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:19 AM

The backup rather suggests the end will be some wibbly wobbly time travel reset of everything that wipes out the current timeline.

 

I think this may be a bit too literal of a reading. It seemed more like meta-commentary on the IDW universe ending than an indication of anything that's going to happen in-story.



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Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:28 AM

Surprised by how sad I got at Sky-Byte's death. He was a jokey character from a jokey series 17 years ago, that we only got because Hasbro needed to fill more time while they were engineering Minicon gimmickry. He was only in the comics at all because we love him. He lasted this long in the comic I suspect because nobody had it in them to kill him.

This, more than anything we've seen in the Unicron arc, really hammers home that an entire mindset behind TF storytelling is over. We moving into the land of Evergreen echoes of like nine 1984-85 characters plus Windblade, who the fans asked for once and will get forever in some "HAVE ALL THE DONUTS IN THE WORLD" Twilight Zone punishment. Anything smaller or quirkier than that just doesn't seem to play a role anymore.

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 10:56 AM

That seems a little Sky Is Fallingy. I mean, even IDW started out with only Optimus, Ratchet, Prowl, Jazz, Wheeljack, and Bumblebee, with the most outside thinking choice being Sunstreaker.

Cyberverse is one episode old. IDW's next thing hasn't even been announced. I think it's too soon to be decrying some 1984 purgatory forevermore.

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 11:00 AM

This issue felt like it was treading water a bit.

 

Also, Shockwave's big plan didn't involve checking nobody moved the talisman? He seems strangely non-plussed about his 11 million year plan collapsing, even for Shockwave.

 

Are we supposed to assume that all the beastformers/Bludgeon etc have been co-opted by Unicron and Shockwave just doesn't know it yet (which is weirdly unobservant given he was there last issue)? Or are there two Optimus Primals wandering around?

 

I'm assuming Shockwave's only mistake was trusting Bludgeon.  Bludgeon was probably supposed to ensure the Talisman was where it was supposed to be, among other things.  And he's had a confusing number of secret employers.  Shockwave just thought HE was the be-all, end-all secret employer.

 

In fact...(follow me here as I puzzle this out in real time) now that I think of it, Bludgeon's technically been under Jhiaxus' control (and thus Shockwave's control) since Revelation, hasn't he?  Shockwave probably had no reason to think he had any other agenda.

 

In Salvation, Bludgeon notes that he wishes he could have "known" Jhiaxus.  Why would he think such a thing if he was palling around with Jhiaxus for all of RID season 1?  Perhaps because he only recently broke his conditioning and he's back to being the fanatic from Stormbringer...the series where he was obsessed with techno-organic outer-shells...which the Maximals now all possess!

 

Phew!  Maybe.

 

And perhaps Primal, Rhinox, and Beast Megs will turn on Shockwave next issue once Bludgeon arrives on Earth.



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Posted 05 September 2018 - 12:53 PM

Sky-Byte went to go live on a farm right

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 01:26 PM

Cosmos's death has left me feeling very, very sad.

Why did those four characters have to die?  :( 
 



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Posted 05 September 2018 - 01:30 PM

 

This issue felt like it was treading water a bit.

 

Also, Shockwave's big plan didn't involve checking nobody moved the talisman? He seems strangely non-plussed about his 11 million year plan collapsing, even for Shockwave.

 

Are we supposed to assume that all the beastformers/Bludgeon etc have been co-opted by Unicron and Shockwave just doesn't know it yet (which is weirdly unobservant given he was there last issue)? Or are there two Optimus Primals wandering around?

 

I'm assuming Shockwave's only mistake was trusting Bludgeon.  Bludgeon was probably supposed to ensure the Talisman was where it was supposed to be, among other things.  And he's had a confusing number of secret employers.  Shockwave just thought HE was the be-all, end-all secret employer.

 

In fact...(follow me here as I puzzle this out in real time) now that I think of it, Bludgeon's technically been under Jhiaxus' control (and thus Shockwave's control) since Revelation, hasn't he?  Shockwave probably had no reason to think he had any other agenda.

 

In Salvation, Bludgeon notes that he wishes he could have "known" Jhiaxus.  Why would he think such a thing if he was palling around with Jhiaxus for all of RID season 1?  Perhaps because he only recently broke his conditioning and he's back to being the fanatic from Stormbringer...the series where he was obsessed with techno-organic outer-shells...which the Maximals now all possess!

 

Phew!  Maybe.

 

And perhaps Primal, Rhinox, and Beast Megs will turn on Shockwave next issue once Bludgeon arrives on Earth.

 

That's a good point; after all, Jhiaxus was the one who set up a mental link with Bludgeon in the first place.

 

Suppose that all this time Bludgeon's actions haven't been his own but rather those of Jhiaxus?


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Posted 05 September 2018 - 03:15 PM

I found this issue very meh. The pacing to me seems way off and we're having characters die left and right... but they're not even dying in ways that elicit an emotional touching response. Elita decides to crash Carcer into Unicron's face with about as much effect as when you squish a gnat on your skin and flick it away (man am I disappointed she never got to do anything interesting after such a good character setup). Cosmos and company decide to make some sort of last stand that accomplishes nothing from what I can tell. Blurr at least accomplished something with his sacrifice, but the way it was presented (needing to explain what was going on at the same time) sapped any impact from it IMO. Shockwave just teleports out of his cell (because... millions of years to plan?) yet couldn't figure out that maybe telling Optimus and company your plan wasn't the best way to ensure the Talisman was left to take out Unicron.

 

At least Beast Megatron finally gets named so I don't need to read people calling him Gnashteeth anymore.


Edited by Magnusblitz, 05 September 2018 - 03:15 PM.


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Posted 05 September 2018 - 03:36 PM

I found this issue very meh. The pacing to me seems way off and we're having characters die left and right... but they're not even dying in ways that elicit an emotional touching response. Elita decides to crash Carcer into Unicron's face with about as much effect as when you squish a gnat on your skin and flick it away (man am I disappointed she never got to do anything interesting after such a good character setup). Cosmos and company decide to make some sort of last stand that accomplishes nothing from what I can tell. Blurr at least accomplished something with his sacrifice, but the way it was presented (needing to explain what was going on at the same time) sapped any impact from it IMO. Shockwave just teleports out of his cell (because... millions of years to plan?) yet couldn't figure out that maybe telling Optimus and company your plan wasn't the best way to ensure the Talisman was left to take out Unicron.

 

At least Beast Megatron finally gets named so I don't need to read people calling him Gnashteeth anymore.

 

Cosmos and the others' sacrifice was to allow everyone else on Sanctuary Station time to escape to Earth.



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Posted 05 September 2018 - 03:54 PM

Why. Isnt. Pyra. Magna. Dead. Already.

(Not kidding. This character annoys me to no end. Best case scenario: she and Spike somehow get in a fight and kill each other)

 

If OP 25 will be naming a new Prime, I'm going to guess it will be a new combiner made from Pyra Magna, Slide, a revived Metalhawk, Spike, and a fifth character implied to be that one other character you absolutely hate. They will only rarely use their combined form because the combiner usually loses track of its opponents due to an overwhelming urge to utterly destroy itself.



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Posted 05 September 2018 - 03:58 PM

I guess "Beast Megatron" is now a thing. But the Maximal plotline is still pretty incoherent and I doubt it'll be clarified whatsoever in the next two issues.

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 04:30 PM

Cosmos and the others' sacrifice was to allow everyone else on Sanctuary Station time to escape to Earth.

 

Fair enough, re-reading it closer I can see all the escape pods leaving and Bludgeon's dialogue even points out that he made the decision to let the pods go before Stardrive showed up. I mean, in reality I still have a hard time seeing four guys making a big enough dent against Bludgeon's fleet to matter, but as presented the sacrifice had meaning (are there any 'name' characters on the station anymore?)





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