Jump to content


Toggle shoutbox Squawkbox Open the Shoutbox in a popup

Please don't post Youtube videos in the chat box. The forums software auto embeds them. 

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity


Photo
- - - - -

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker


336 replies to this topic

#321 Telly

Telly

    Like a tiny sandwich...

  • Retired Staff
  • 8190 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Indiana
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 22 October 2019 - 03:06 PM

 

 

 

Again, this is Dinsey - not Lucas. They aren't going to spend millions of dollars after spending billions for the franchise just to wing the story. That's not to say they are telling the story well, but I have no doubt that the major beats of the narrative have been planned out in advance.

 

 

At this point, I would say they are winging it, they know they screwed up badly with the Last Jedi, even if they will not publically admit it.

 

Hence why Episode IX has a 45% increase in pre-order ticket sales over Avengers: Endgame

 

Truly, The Last Jedi did so much damage to the franchise.

 

 

I mean, I like "Last Jedi" but if you want to get specific Atom Tickets coverage has grown about 44% this year. They went from 46% to nearly 90% this year.

 

 

and atom tickets is owned by disney (or theyre at least investors in it)

 

ill wait for actual box office numbers


When I die I will surely go to Heaven for i spent my life in Hell

#322 TM2-Megatron

TM2-Megatron
  • Supporter
  • 10675 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Toronto, Canada
  • Faction::Equestrian

Posted 22 October 2019 - 03:16 PM

Liked the trailer, liked the music. Not sure exactly what's happening with C-3PO in it, but his line made me a little misty eyed.

 

I'm solidly in the camp that enjoyed TLJ, just not as sequel to TFA. Though you obviously can't judge a film from the trailer, thus far I very much like the way this one is shaping up.



#323 Dave Zero1

Dave Zero1
  • Citizen
  • 2488 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
  • Faction::RIBFIR

Posted 22 October 2019 - 03:55 PM

 Hence why Episode IX has a 45% increase in pre-order ticket sales over Avengers: Endgame
 
Truly, The Last Jedi did so much damage to the franchise.

 
I mean, I like "Last Jedi" but if you want to get specific Atom Tickets coverage has grown about 44% this year. They went from 46% to nearly 90% this year.
Solo: A Star Wars Story Is Breaking Pre-Sale Records
"Solo's pre-ticket sales are already double that of Black Panther."

Yeah, it ultimately doesn't mean anything but it sounds impressive so it's good PR to say so long as nobody digs too deeply into the stats.

#324 Cybersnark

Cybersnark

    Sorry I'm late. Had to get my powersuit.

  • Citizen
  • 11324 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  • Faction::Equestrian

Posted 22 October 2019 - 04:00 PM

Before anybody in here freaks out about Threepio, remember when Artoo "died" way back in ANH (and Threepio freaked out and offered to donate parts)?

I'm kinda surprised they haven't "rhymed" that yet.

#325 Teufel

Teufel

    Who wants to rock forever?

  • Supporter
  • 6316 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:America
  • Faction::Decepticon

Posted 22 October 2019 - 05:38 PM

Hell, maybe it'll be revealed that Vader's "redemption" was only partial or even feigned.  That would certainly explain the strangely ominous and creepy Clockwork Orange stare that his Force ghost had at the end of ROTJ.

QFOdR25.jpg

Maybe Anakin is as much a bad apple in death as he was in life and he's been negatively influencing his highly impressionable grandson this whole time.  Let's not forget: he expressed a predilection for authoritarianism long before he fell to the dark side...

 

Maybe Hayden Christensen is just a bad actor?



#326 Superomegaprime

Superomegaprime
  • Citizen
  • 3583 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Somewhere, not sure where
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 22 October 2019 - 07:48 PM

Before anybody in here freaks out about Threepio, remember when Artoo "died" way back in ANH (and Threepio freaked out and offered to donate parts)?

I'm kinda surprised they haven't "rhymed" that yet.

 

I think that moment is largely overlooked because he reappears in the cermony fully repaired.


36428543702_ff3b1fc457_m.jpg

#327 Pale Rider

Pale Rider

    ...and Hell followed with him.

  • Citizen
  • 8669 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 22 October 2019 - 07:53 PM

Maybe Hayden Christensen is just a bad actor?


The prequels made the whole cast look like bad actors.  I mean, it takes a special kind of director to get truly awful performances out of such an otherwise highly talented cast, but George Lucas somehow pulled it off. 
 
I guess that's a natural consequence of directing nothing for 22 years and assuming you can just throw a bunch of warm bodies in front of a green screen, then expecting the magic to just happen because you're a living legend.

Edited by Pale Rider, 22 October 2019 - 09:20 PM.


#328 Telly

Telly

    Like a tiny sandwich...

  • Retired Staff
  • 8190 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Indiana
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 23 October 2019 - 02:16 PM

how lucas did it WAS the green screen. people need things to interact with. even if its just a bare bones set. the first sin city was shot mostly with green screen, but there were still some actual props and set decoration there. i know acting requires a good bit of imagination, but actual things are still needed


Edited by Telly, 23 October 2019 - 08:44 PM.

When I die I will surely go to Heaven for i spent my life in Hell

#329 Rust

Rust

    Slightly Off

  • Supporter
  • 46496 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Nebraska
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 23 October 2019 - 05:10 PM

I've seen High School One Act Plays with more set dressing than the Prequel films got. Honestly, the movies would have been infinitely better if Lucas had simply animated EVERYTHING.



#330 Axaday

Axaday
  • Supporter
  • 34314 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Heartland of America

Posted 23 October 2019 - 06:05 PM

I think Lucas really doesn't have a great talent for directing and acting.  He's great with ideas, but his best stuff was made with great collaborators.  With or without green screens, the problems with the Prequels mainly stem from him thinking he could do it all himself this time.  I think other directors can and have done really well with green screens.  Lets see how Mandalorian goes.  It is mostly green screen.



#331 Exatron

Exatron

    Kaiser Dragon

  • Citizen
  • 1701 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Michigan
  • Faction::Decepticon

Posted 24 October 2019 - 11:39 AM

 

Hell, maybe it'll be revealed that Vader's "redemption" was only partial or even feigned.  That would certainly explain the strangely ominous and creepy Clockwork Orange stare that his Force ghost had at the end of ROTJ.

QFOdR25.jpg

Maybe Anakin is as much a bad apple in death as he was in life and he's been negatively influencing his highly impressionable grandson this whole time.  Let's not forget: he expressed a predilection for authoritarianism long before he fell to the dark side...

 

Maybe Hayden Christensen is just a bad actor?

 

 

I don't see how any implications from a look Anakin gives can be blamed on Christensen's skills or lack thereof as an actor. That wasn't a scene that he acted out. That was some random footage of him superimposed into RotJ without his knowing it was even going to happen.

 

https://starwars.fan...ensen#Star_Wars

 

For the DVD release of the original trilogy, Christensen's head was digitally superimposed onto the body of Sebastian Shaw as the Force ghost of Anakin.[1] Shaw's face during the unmasking scene was subtly altered to better resemble an elder Christensen. Also, Shaw's eyebrows were digitally removed in order to reflect Anakin's appearance after being burned alive on Mustafar. Christensen insists this was done without his knowledge, an act that Lucasfilm confirmed in the featurette "Return of the Jedi: What has changed?" as posted to the official website to commemorate the 2006 DVDs.



#332 ZakuConvoy

ZakuConvoy
  • Citizen
  • 551 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 24 October 2019 - 02:16 PM

 

 

Maybe Hayden Christensen is just a bad actor?


The prequels made the whole cast look like bad actors.  I mean, it takes a special kind of director to get truly awful performances out of such an otherwise highly talented cast, but George Lucas somehow pulled it off. 
 
I guess that's a natural consequence of directing nothing for 22 years and assuming you can just throw a bunch of warm bodies in front of a green screen, then expecting the magic to just happen because you're a living legend.

 

 

I think Lucas really doesn't have a great talent for directing and acting.  He's great with ideas, but his best stuff was made with great collaborators.  With or without green screens, the problems with the Prequels mainly stem from him thinking he could do it all himself this time.  I think other directors can and have done really well with green screens.  Lets see how Mandalorian goes.  It is mostly green screen.

 

 

And, y'know, it's interesting how much of the prequel trilogy apparently takes from Lucas's original version of the Star Wars script.

 

I read Dark Horse's adaptation of Lucas's original script (an 8-issue series called The Star Wars, if you want to track it down) way back when.  And I was surprised how much of the prequel's "feel" was in it.  The emphasis on politics, the characters, the talk-not-show nature of the whole thing...I think it kind of makes me think that a LOT of the original trilogy's charm kind of lies more with the collaborators rather than Lucas himself.

 

https://starwars.fan...i/The_Star_Wars

 

It's definitely an interesting read.  More of a curiosity than an actually satisfying story on it's own, but definitely interesting.


Edited by ZakuConvoy, 24 October 2019 - 02:21 PM.


#333 Pale Rider

Pale Rider

    ...and Hell followed with him.

  • Citizen
  • 8669 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 24 October 2019 - 02:36 PM

I think it kind of makes me think that a LOT of the original trilogy's charm kind of lies more with the collaborators rather than Lucas himself.


Indeed. You can read all about them here...

http://fd.noneinc.co...eorgelucas.html

It's a big reason why I had no qualms about Lucasfilm's sale to Disney (and still don't, to be honest).

Edited by Pale Rider, 24 October 2019 - 02:37 PM.


#334 Axaday

Axaday
  • Supporter
  • 34314 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Heartland of America

Posted 25 October 2019 - 04:57 AM

To get everything from the Attack of the Clones script (that Lucas wrote by himself) you need a director like maybe Larry David.  I feel like he could have made the "I hate sand" speech funny.  It wasn't really funny when Lucas directed it himself.  (I don't think the green screen wrote that dialog.)



#335 Paladin

Paladin

    Have Zord, Will Travel

  • Citizen
  • 12432 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Canton, Michigan
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 07 November 2019 - 09:32 AM

well, now I'm just sad again... :(

 

 


Following Carrie Fisher’s passing at the end of 2016, Star Wars: Episode IX, which we now know as The Rise of Skywalker, had to be altered to account for the actress no longer being with us. While director J.J. Abrams and his team were able to ensure Leia Organa would still have a role in the final chapter of the Skywalker Saga through unused footage of Fisher from The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, that doesn’t take away from the fact that she was originally supposed to have a much bigger role.

In fact, according to Carrie Fisher’s brother, Todd Fisher, the original version of Episode IX would have seen Princess/General Leia Organa finally getting to be a full-fledged Jedi warrior, with lightsaber and all. As he put it:

 

She was going to be the big payoff in the final film. She was going to be the last Jedi, so to speak. That’s cool, right? https://www.cinemabl...lkers-last-jedi

 

 

 

 


Edited by Paladin, 07 November 2019 - 09:32 AM.

Stuff for sale; every little bit helps. :) https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/143212-for-sale-3p-mp-potp-super-sentai-stuff TWITTER: Paladin4221

#336 Axaday

Axaday
  • Supporter
  • 34314 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Heartland of America

Posted 07 November 2019 - 09:40 AM

But she WASN'T going to be the last Jedi.



#337 Powered Convoy

Powered Convoy

    Skywarp Connoisseur

  • Retired Staff
  • 65968 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Faction::RIRFIB

Posted 07 November 2019 - 09:41 AM

Sad indeed.  Wish there was something that could have done to stop her from leaving us too soon.


ACItEK8.png




Reply to this topic



  


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users