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@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN

@  PlutoniumBoss : (31 July 2020 - 03:04 PM)

Bueller? Bueller?

@  Jet : (31 July 2020 - 11:31 AM)

DONKEY!

@  Maximus Ambus : (31 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

Spanner

@  Xaaron : (31 July 2020 - 06:49 AM)

Jetstorm

@  Nevermore : (31 July 2020 - 05:33 AM)

Tankor

@  SG Roadbuster : (31 July 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Overrun

@  lastmaximal : (31 July 2020 - 01:33 AM)

Buckethead

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 07:15 PM)

Now I wonder how many Transformers we can name with the fewest possible different names.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:38 PM)

Ransack. That's like another 20 or so.

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 06:18 PM)

"Prowl". There, that's at least fifteen.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Or do you want people to spam the Squawkbox with lists of 100 characters?

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Oky, just one question: If I were to say "Yes, I could", how could you be sure I'm not lying?

@  Bass X0 : (30 July 2020 - 06:08 PM)

i don't go into people's threads that have no relevance to my interests just to be an ass by telling them that their comments and opinions are of no value just because they have no personal interest to me.

@  Bass X0 : (30 July 2020 - 06:06 PM)

i think one of us is misunderstanding what the squawkbox is actually for.

@  Bass X0 : (30 July 2020 - 06:06 PM)

and what is wrong with that? you respond to me to lessen your own boredom.

@  Bass X0 : (30 July 2020 - 06:05 PM)

I'm asking people if they think they could.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:05 PM)

Or did you just think of another random question to lessen your boredom?

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:04 PM)

Is this a survey?


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#41 Princess Viola

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Posted 28 August 2018 - 09:12 AM

the hugin atrocious cgi ALONE makes me question how anyone could think energon is better than armada


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Posted 28 August 2018 - 09:14 AM

Rad: Optimus. This is Rad, on Planet Cybertron. Come in! Repeat, this is Rad on Planet Cybertron. Come in, Optimus!
Dr. Jones: So, are you having any luck trying to get through to the big guy?
Rad: No. But I'll keep trying until I reach him, Dr. Jones. We have to tell Optimus the news about Omega Supreme.
Dr. Jones: Yes, this is big news, Rad.
Optimus Prime: Cybertron, come in!
Dr. Jones: Huh?
Rad: Uh?
Optimus Prime: This is Optimus Prime... We've detected your transmission. Come in, Rad!
Rad: Hey, it's Optimus!
Optimus Prime: We'd better hurry so we don't lose the connection.
Dr. Jones: I agree with Optimus. ... Okay, Rad, see if you're able to compress the signal.
Rad: Right.
Optimus Prime: What are your exact transmission coordinates, Rad?
Dr. Jones: We're broadcasting from Planet Cybertron!
 
 
 
Kicker: "The good news is, I convinced Alpha Q to back us on this one. And that means we've got one less thing to worry about!"
Optimus: "Huh?"
[connection closes]
Misha: "Let's just hope Alpha Q can pull through for us."
Kicker: "Uh?"
Misha: "Well, what I mean is... we've got to hope that Alpha Q combined with the Autobots are powerful enough to take down Megatron."
Kicker: "And our secret weapon."
Misha: "What—are you saying?"
Kicker: "The key to this battle is energon. It's just that simple, Misha."
Misha: "Huh?"
Kicker: "We will win this."
 
 
 
Alpha Q: "What should we do?"
Kicker: "Help Optimus out and let him destroy Megatron!"
Alpha Q: "Hrm... interestng."
Kicker: "Optimus... is the only one with the power to defeat Megatron."
Alpha Q: "How shall we help him?"
Kicker: "Hrm... ah. I've got it. Join the Autobot team!"

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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 28 August 2018 - 10:23 AM

If you are trying to demonstrate how bad the dialog is in Energon as a reason for Armada being better, I have a Kettle for you to meet Mr Pot.

 

 

 

Also, on a side note, I have been looking for Gold feathers for years now to signal some sneak attack.


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Posted 28 August 2018 - 11:21 AM

If you are trying to demonstrate how bad the dialog is in Energon as a reason for Armada being better, I have a Kettle for you to meet Mr Pot.

Hm. The pot (Armada, presumably) seems to be black.

Let's look back at the kettle (Energon, presumably).

It's still black!

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 10:01 AM

Comcast Xfinity carries TBD, or at least it does in my area and my cable package, and looking up the listings Energon airs one episode Monday thru Friday at 8 AM and then two episodes Sat and Sun at 9 AM. 

 

So here's an update to this, they've added episodes of Cybertron to the schedule. Energon airs a single episode weekdays now at 8:30 AM, then two episodes on Saturdays at 9. Then on Sundays it's two episodes of Cybertron at 9 AM.



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Posted 03 October 2018 - 10:12 AM

Reminds me of the days when Fox Kids aired reruns of Beast Wars along with the new airings of Beast Machines.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 12:03 PM

So, they've got a bad series, and a reasonably decent one. Why can't they just have the reasonably decent one?


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 01:20 PM

I've been watching this sporadically on weekends. Energon is just as bad as I remember. Maybe worse. Cybertron is markedly worse than I remember. We have really really been spoiled for cartoons post-UT.



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Posted 03 October 2018 - 02:52 PM

 

Comcast Xfinity carries TBD, or at least it does in my area and my cable package, and looking up the listings Energon airs one episode Monday thru Friday at 8 AM and then two episodes Sat and Sun at 9 AM. 

 

So here's an update to this, they've added episodes of Cybertron to the schedule. Energon airs a single episode weekdays now at 8:30 AM, then two episodes on Saturdays at 9. Then on Sundays it's two episodes of Cybertron at 9 AM.

 

As it's a semi-syndicated block, times may vary. Check your local listings.



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Posted 03 October 2018 - 04:41 PM

 

Quality issues (and the fact that the first ~dozen episodes are entirely skippable) aside, there was actually quite a lot to like in Armada. The characters, the designs, silly bits like "they were delicious" and "Squidhead", the final fight between Galvatron and Optimus which ends with Galvatron realizing his inability to not fight is keeping Unicron alive.

 

 

Energon, on the other hand:

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Yeahhhh....

I still think it's ridiculous that that caption is on what's arguably the least bad episode in the whole series.

 

 

As the person who put it there, I will vehemently disagree. In the midst of the unbearably bad WTFery of the late-series episodes, this episode was a still-deeper leap into pure unadulterated nonsensical WTFery that, despite its faint and sporadic wit, did nothing to earn back any goodwill from me as I slogged through this interminable drekpile of a show.

 

And I realize it wasn't supposed to air in the middle of the episode run, but it did, and the whys and wherefores are the very definition of Not My Problem Because I Am Long Since Done Cutting This Unforgivable Pustule Of A Television Program Any Slack.

 

Energon is bad and stupid any way you slice it. People may have a different opinion but the problem is that their opinion is wrong.

 

(You may think I'm biased against Energon, but no, I'm biased against things that are bad and stupid and Energon just happens to be bad and stupid in ways that are extremely bad and remarkably stupid.)


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Posted 04 October 2018 - 05:03 AM

Also, the dub was only about 10% of the problem with Energon, the show doesn't magically become awesome just because it's in Japanese.



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Posted 04 October 2018 - 08:32 AM

It does, however, make it a little less painful when the dialogue is in a language most English-speakers don't understand. :p


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 05:40 PM

Energon at its best was better than Armada at it's worst.

Cybertron's worst wasn't as bad as Energon's Worst. And Cybertron's best wasn't as good as Armada's best.

Really, as far as Toonami shows go, Cybertron was so forgettable when in the neighborhood of Zoids and DICE and other forgettable shows... like.. IGPX? That's one that nobody ever mentions.

But forgettable is still better than Energon, which I would pair up with Voltron 3D as a perfect guide to how not to do CGI.

Now that I think about it, Energon kind of came out at exactly when the cel shading trend died out. Was it to blame? no a general complete cultural exhaustion with the style is more likely the reason.


Edited by Zodberg, 10 October 2018 - 12:32 PM.

Woooo!

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 07:06 PM

But RID 2015 was cel-shaded CG...?

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