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@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 May 2019 - 01:38 AM)

Yeah, polling these days is garbage.

@  Sean Whitmore : (18 May 2019 - 11:53 PM)

Well, he was an honest man. He wasn’t gonna lie to a 5-year-old.

@  Paladin : (18 May 2019 - 08:34 PM)

Grandfather once said to me, "I'm going upstairs and hug your grandma."

@  Sabrblade : (18 May 2019 - 07:08 PM)

Mama always said that you can tell a lot 'bout a person from 'is shoes...

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 May 2019 - 03:54 PM)

Life is like a box of chocolates. Stay out of the sun or melt into a pile of gross slop.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 May 2019 - 10:26 AM)

Greasy, disappointing and still managing to be over priced?

@  Lancer : (18 May 2019 - 10:22 AM)

... Yes, it is!

@  Noideaforaname : (18 May 2019 - 09:48 AM)

Life's a fillet of fish!

@  unluckiness : (18 May 2019 - 08:53 AM)

ow the edge

@  Paladin : (18 May 2019 - 07:03 AM)

a reminder that life is an unrepentant hellscape where everyone & everything you know will eventually betray you.

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 06:45 AM)

You know, this election is what has finally broken me of any confidence at any point of pre-polling data. I mean, it's always been sketchy, but this is just... aaaargh!

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 06:08 AM)

I was going to make an Auspol election thread in P&R, but the outcome so far has made me feel physically ill.

@  Gamma V : (18 May 2019 - 03:28 AM)

Haven't been here in a long time.

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 03:16 AM)

I have heard that, it's rather disappointing. Ah, maybe they'll just leech each others stores of "awful racist vote" and not go anywhere.

@  Trpodeca : (17 May 2019 - 11:09 PM)

I voted. Boy there are a worrying amount of parties which sound like fascists.

@  Pennpenn : (17 May 2019 - 06:55 PM)

For those in Australia, it is a federal election today. Go Vote! It's Mandatory!

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2019 - 04:19 PM)

Humor? I 'ardly know 'or!

@  wonko the sane? : (17 May 2019 - 03:51 PM)

I was intemately familiar with humour... but she just wanted to be friends...

@  Maximus Ambus : (17 May 2019 - 12:10 PM)

BZT Time out! Time out! Time ooooooouuuuuut!!!

@  unluckiness : (17 May 2019 - 08:23 AM)

Yes. Are you familiar with humor?

@  Sabrblade : (17 May 2019 - 07:50 AM)

You are familiar with The Room, yes?

@  unluckiness : (17 May 2019 - 01:14 AM)

nah, tuxedos are formal wear

@  Sabrblade : (16 May 2019 - 10:38 PM)

*...while dressed in a tuxedo*

@  unluckiness : (16 May 2019 - 09:22 PM)

*casually tosses kryptonite island at Lex*

@  Sean Whitmore : (16 May 2019 - 06:21 PM)

O hai Lex.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 May 2019 - 04:31 PM)

You're just a little chicken! Cheep cheepcheep cheeEeeeEEEeeeep!

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2019 - 04:20 PM)

YOU ARE TEARING ME APART

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 May 2019 - 04:14 PM)

So I guess I shouldn't try to tie in The Room.

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 May 2019 - 02:29 PM)

I was just talking cheesy in a dated filmmaking sense, not mind-bogglingly god-awful.

@  Sabrblade : (16 May 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Well, certainly The Last Airbender is worse at being a Superman movie.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 May 2019 - 11:31 AM)

Is that better or worse than The Last Airbender? I mean, they're both terrible, but....

@  RichardT1977 : (16 May 2019 - 09:28 AM)

And the worst Superman movie is "Dragonball: Evolution".

@  Paladin : (16 May 2019 - 08:01 AM)

the best Superman movie is "The Iron Giant." You cannot convince me otherwise.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 May 2019 - 10:16 PM)

At least even in the first Christopher Reeve movie, when he caught Lois that first time, the background kept scrolling down for a second to indicate it wasn't a sudden stop.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 May 2019 - 10:10 PM)

I guess you had to have been there. I did like the beginning a lot, though; the stuff on Krypton and in Smallville. The movie just got so cheesy once it got to Metropolis, though, it's kind of painful

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 May 2019 - 06:25 PM)

The performances, the cinematography, the significance of a comic book adaptation being treated like a real movie. Silly stuff like that. :)

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 May 2019 - 05:17 PM)

Yeah, I've never really understood what people loved so much about it. Other than the score, of course, which was one of Williams' finest

@  Paladin : (15 May 2019 - 04:06 PM)

and it's not even the dumbest part in that movie.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 May 2019 - 03:16 PM)

Flying Lois around was fine; it was all the Can You Read My Mind nonsense that ruined the scene

@  Sabrblade : (15 May 2019 - 12:08 PM)

The recent Shazam! movie had Billy bumbling his way through learning his powers. But all or most of it was genuinely funny.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 May 2019 - 11:27 AM)

But yeah, in retrospect it makes me cringe the way he caught and carried the helicopter in his public debut in the first film...

@  RichardT1977 : (15 May 2019 - 11:25 AM)

(she wasn't in III long enough to be flown around)

@  RichardT1977 : (15 May 2019 - 11:25 AM)

You mean the Donner movie, the Donner/Lester movie, and The Quest for Peace (for which I don't know the director)?

@  unluckiness : (15 May 2019 - 11:09 AM)

At least he didn't try to fly lois around like in the Donner movies.

@  Cybersnark : (15 May 2019 - 10:45 AM)

My favourite is still from the first episode of the 90s Superman animated series, where Clark initially tries to catch the falling plane by its tail... which snaps off in his hands because physics doesn't work that way.

@  MEDdMI : (15 May 2019 - 09:46 AM)

I think it'd be boring if a hero could use their powers perfectly right off the bat and not have any unforseen consequences (though I also don't keep up with a lot of superhero stuff, so not familiar with those scenes)

@  Dekafox : (15 May 2019 - 09:23 AM)

Overseas, Kamen Rider Gaim did something similar after Kouta(the main character) got his transformation belt. He tried to do a whole bunch of mundane things with it cause he thought it'd make him better at them and they all go horribly wrong.

@  Paladin : (15 May 2019 - 08:59 AM)

superspeed causes enormous friction on fabric. the 1990 Flash had the same issue and it was mentioned in "The Incredibles" too...

@  fourteenwings : (15 May 2019 - 08:45 AM)

Arrow didn't have one (though Oliver got hurt a lot in flashbacks), Supergirl already had her powers, LoT gang also already had their powers mostly and in Black Lightning discovering your powers seems to be more associated with emotional trauma than anything comedic

@  fourteenwings : (15 May 2019 - 08:43 AM)

In the Arrowverse shows... I guess The Flash accidentally ran so fast he shredded his clothes? (totally not a chance to showcase Grant Gustin's "I'm not Glee kid anymore!" physique)


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#1 Fortress Ironhold

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 09:59 PM

I'm 10 pages into the first draft of a script for my own superhero one-off book (my goal is 32 pages total, plus maybe an 8-page origin). 

 

Given that I'm likely going to have to self-finance it, I'm trying to get a budget together now. 

 

1. What's a fair rate for artists, letterers, colorists, and the like? 

 

2. What's a good publisher or printer (for self-publishing) to go through? 

 

3. About how much can I expect to pay for copyrights (et al)? 

 

Thanks. 



#2 Fero McPigletron

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 08:52 AM

No idea. Amateur artists might give it a try for practice.

You want critiques of your script? I've written some comics and had them published. It's faux manga tho. I'd have preferred my own superhero concepts.

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#3 Ursa Magnus

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 10:03 AM

1) Artist rates vary. You'll need to find an artist you like, get a page rate from him/her, and then work from there. If someone is too much for you, thank them for their time and then see who else is available. The same goes for all other aspects. Inkers, colorists, and letterers. Making a comic is not a cheap endeavor. You're looking at at least $2,000+ for a full comic, start to finish. The last story I did ran me $150 per page for pencils/inks, and an additional $30 per page for colors. I did the Lettering and all other aspects myself.

 

2) IndyPlanet.com It's all I use. Great product, people, and service.

 

3) Copyrights run around $150 each I think? That's what I saw when I was doing Steel Wolf.


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 10:33 AM

As an artist/illustrator I've done a few books now. First time out I charged £60 for 15 images. I didn't realise the level of work involved.

 

Now I currently charge between £100 - £200 for 20 or so images (depending on level of detail wanted). - That includes, initial sketches, feedback, drawing and inking, scanning, digital alteration requested and scaling. - note that's not colour as I tend to work in black inks.

 

Covers  I don't do as much but I tend to charge £40-60 for a one off cover - including digital colouring (less if I'm involved with illustrations in the book too) - and that's about the usual I've seen around for entry point.

 

Note: these are book illustrations I'm discussing, eg: Roald Dahl type books. I've done comics, but not professionally so couldn't quote you there.


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#5 Fortress Ironhold

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 03:10 AM

Talking about comics over on another website I go to, and it turns out that one of the regulars is a pretty fair artist. 

 

If I can catch them online next time I'll see if they'll give me a quote. 



#6 Fero McPigletron

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 02:41 PM

Good luck! Finish your script first, hehe

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#7 Fortress Ironhold

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 10:03 AM

How did anyone here handle securing IP rights for your creations? 

 

I do need to worry about that as well. 



#8 Fero McPigletron

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 02:03 PM

The anthology mag handled the IP stuff for me (since I'm writing their characters) so I dunno.

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 02:47 PM

You should look up Mythology Kingdom Unbound Ink/inc. Shaun Lee Wood and you seem like a match made in heaven.
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Posted 18 August 2018 - 01:28 AM

OK. 

 

30 pages. 

 

10 pages for the beginning (setting things up), 10 pages for the middle (conflict), 10 for the ending (resolution). 

 

First 10 pages are scripted in draft form. 

 

Planning out second 10 pages now, but I just realized that it'd create a plot hole if I re-used one of the villains from the first 10 pages, so I need to come up with a generic throw-away baddie before I can get them scripted out. 

 

I could easily have the first draft of the script done in a few weeks as long as people quit interrupting me IRL. 


Edited by Fortress Ironhold, 18 August 2018 - 01:34 AM.


#11 Fortress Ironhold

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 07:56 PM

Starting to script out pages 11 - 20 now. 

 

Still waiting to hear back from the artist I was talking to. 

 

Tentative short list of publishers to solicit to, although I'm trying to investigate further. It would be to my advantage to find a publisher operating out of either Utah or Texas, as with my respective ties to both states I'd have home-court advantage to some degree when it comes to publicity and marketing (born in one; live in the other).

 

Main roadblock at this point appears to be getting the legal stuff sorted. 





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