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@  Otaku : (23 October 2018 - 09:12 AM)

Now, I'm not saying that Cybertronians ought to have human life-spans, just that "millions of years" is too long.  Though I suppose it makes the "Oh, I suddenly remembered [plot point]!" moments credible because where do you store all the memories in an easily accessed form?  If you do remember even most things clearly... might that not be maddening?

@  Otaku : (23 October 2018 - 09:09 AM)

The "millions of years old" thing is probably the most alien aspect of Cybertronians.  It pushes my suspension of disbelief for anything remotely human to live that long and still be sane, or maybe even functional.  I think of how aging has affected my own view and sure, some of it is biological maturation, but a lot of it is experience.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 07:11 AM)

But they don't really have a childhood either. They go online and all maturation is literally job experience.

@  Shrug : (23 October 2018 - 06:47 AM)

Well, they're practically immortal. That kind of lifespan doesn't exactly push growing up.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 October 2018 - 04:00 AM)

They can't handle physical scale, did you think temporal scale would fare any better?

@  Pennpenn : (23 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

Maybe it's that they're functionally intelligent, but don't ever really mature much psychologically. That and presumably the original writers gave as much of a shit about deep time as they did about space geometry.

@  Whirl Maximus : (23 October 2018 - 02:03 AM)

I'm mixed about the millions of years thing, it's somewhat at odds when transformers are humanized as they often are.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 October 2018 - 11:59 PM)

Are any of the Transformers terribly bright, really? This is a spacefaring civilization that's millions of years old that seem to be fighting a perpetual war for no particular reason. Transformers are stupider than humans

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2018 - 08:31 PM)

Depends on the machine. Are you recruiting them, or MAKING them?

@  Cybersnark : (22 October 2018 - 08:30 PM)

... And not terribly bright.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2018 - 07:51 PM)

Makes sense for robot soldiers: you would want something fast, low profile, but lots of power.

@  Waspinator : (22 October 2018 - 06:31 PM)

If we go by the Prime cartoon, sports cars apparently ARE the expendable troop of choice.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 October 2018 - 04:29 PM)

Just fold 'em into a box and slap some wheels on it, they'll figure it out.

@  Pennpenn : (22 October 2018 - 01:57 AM)

Given that by the time we're up to in the story Functionalism had been dead for millions of years and many of the people around were made during and for the war, it's probably more likely that "sports car shaped thing" was an easy to make alt mode for expendable troops.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 09:52 PM)

maybe there's underground demolition derbies too

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 09:25 PM)

Every single sports car was one of those two jobs? Considering how many there seem to be....

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 07:34 PM)

Athletic Entertainment

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 October 2018 - 03:32 PM)

It's mentioned in one issue that Bumblebee was a courier. The only other fast cars I can remember seeing in Functionist times were Blur and a couple of Stunticons, as racers.

@  SG Roadbuster : (21 October 2018 - 12:14 PM)

i figured the sports cars were either racers or couriers.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 12:13 PM)

Upper Class. They're clearly not made for manual labor.

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 12:09 PM)

Functionism only really makes sense for certain alternate modes like mining or construction equipment; where do things like sports cars fit in?

@  Xellos : (21 October 2018 - 11:51 AM)

At least in the movies they can switch to a (similar) alt mode at will, it seems. Especially if they want to sell more toys per movie.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2018 - 10:44 AM)

They are a race of adaptive machines. Maybe they were expected to change themselves to fit the role?

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 10:06 AM)

IDW-verse discrimination still made more sense than the backstory in TF: Exodus, where everyone's caste was assigned seemingly at random with no regard for their aptitudes (altmode or otherwise)

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:55 AM)

Lost Light is good too, so far.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:54 AM)

I'm not terribly into Transformers in general, but I did mostly enjoy the More Than Meets The Eye series.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:11 AM)

Which has been in the state constitution since 1946, but was never actually executed according to documents, and is currently not in effect because the German federal constitution, which takes priority over state constitution, has banned the death penalty back in 1949.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:09 AM)

Huh. So next weekend, when the German state of Hesse will have its state election, there will also be a ballot about changing the state constitution... and one of the proposed changes will be abolishing the death penalty.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

I really need to read those comics

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:28 AM)

Up to and including the fact that certain alternate modes could end up being classified as "surplus to requirements" and systematically murdered.

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:26 AM)

And in IDW comics where it is/was literally a form of apartheid where your alternate mode pretty much dictated how you were treated by society, what jobs you could pursue, pretty much everything.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 02:24 AM)

We do get hints of that from time to time in Transformers, with stuff like some jets acting smug towards cars and whatnot.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 October 2018 - 08:10 PM)

"No shotgun of Mine is going to marry a rocket launcher" sounds like something that Targetmasters (or WFC Siege Micromasters) might say...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 08:06 PM)

The characters are actually kinda nice. Sure a bunch of them are from New Jersey, but you get a few aliens too.. But if you do that, you might want to go digital delux verisons.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:38 PM)

My only issue is that the aside from Fox, the looks of the characters are kinda bland. If anything, I'll at least get it on Black Friday, as they almost always have deals on the toys to life stuff.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 06:07 PM)

Well I can tell you, if you are going physical version because you want the toys. The Switch version has the best Ship mount as you just slide the joycons into it. The PS4 ship mount is wired. The game itself is very good in my opionion. In some ways it starts to turn into an RTS without being an RTS. You've got to start focus on keeping your planets from being taken back over. It has a LOT to do. It does have some repitive missions, because well, trying to let you level up all pilots and ships and such. The switch version -ALSO- has starfox only missions and the characters are incorporated into the story.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:03 PM)

How is Starlink anyways? Been thinking of getting the Switch version for StarFox, which is quite unusal for me, as I almost always pick the PS4 versions (favorite controller and I already have so many Trophys on it).

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:42 PM)

No shotgun of mine is going to marry a rocket launcher!

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 October 2018 - 05:22 PM)

Should they be allowed to marry outside of their own caliber?

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:18 PM)

I'm conflicted on the subject of marriage rights for shotguns.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:24 PM)

You say, "Damn it, what do you think this is, a shotgun wedding?"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:23 PM)

What do you do if someone wants to bring their concealed-carry to your American wedding?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 01:58 PM)

Benbot, I was streaming the PS4 version of Starlink

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:25 PM)

Ergo their reporting will have its own slant on the facts as they choose, not the most neutral way possible.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:24 PM)

I find it sad to realize that the prestigious New York Times which I trusted a lot as a kid in fact has its own editorial agenda.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:20 PM)

The end result is NOT that stupid bullshit gets equal coverage as reasonable arguments. That would be problematic in itself (the "false balance" bias), but the provlem is that the controversial stupid bullshit gets MORE coverage than the reasonable arguments.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

The media doesn't want to miss the opportunity to report on a controversy, and as a consequence makes sure that the controversial statements reach an audience.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

Because they realized that saying controversial shit is guaranteed to get coverage.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:16 PM)

It's the same here in Germany. Our right-wing moron party is still a political minority, yet they succeed in driving the topics the media keeps reporting.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:15 PM)

The main problem was that Trump was banking on controversy, and the media was reporting controversy because it gave them ratings.


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#1 Fortress Ironhold

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 09:59 PM

I'm 10 pages into the first draft of a script for my own superhero one-off book (my goal is 32 pages total, plus maybe an 8-page origin). 

 

Given that I'm likely going to have to self-finance it, I'm trying to get a budget together now. 

 

1. What's a fair rate for artists, letterers, colorists, and the like? 

 

2. What's a good publisher or printer (for self-publishing) to go through? 

 

3. About how much can I expect to pay for copyrights (et al)? 

 

Thanks. 



#2 Fero McPigletron

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 08:52 AM

No idea. Amateur artists might give it a try for practice.

You want critiques of your script? I've written some comics and had them published. It's faux manga tho. I'd have preferred my own superhero concepts.

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#3 Ursa Magnus

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 10:03 AM

1) Artist rates vary. You'll need to find an artist you like, get a page rate from him/her, and then work from there. If someone is too much for you, thank them for their time and then see who else is available. The same goes for all other aspects. Inkers, colorists, and letterers. Making a comic is not a cheap endeavor. You're looking at at least $2,000+ for a full comic, start to finish. The last story I did ran me $150 per page for pencils/inks, and an additional $30 per page for colors. I did the Lettering and all other aspects myself.

 

2) IndyPlanet.com It's all I use. Great product, people, and service.

 

3) Copyrights run around $150 each I think? That's what I saw when I was doing Steel Wolf.


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 10:33 AM

As an artist/illustrator I've done a few books now. First time out I charged £60 for 15 images. I didn't realise the level of work involved.

 

Now I currently charge between £100 - £200 for 20 or so images (depending on level of detail wanted). - That includes, initial sketches, feedback, drawing and inking, scanning, digital alteration requested and scaling. - note that's not colour as I tend to work in black inks.

 

Covers  I don't do as much but I tend to charge £40-60 for a one off cover - including digital colouring (less if I'm involved with illustrations in the book too) - and that's about the usual I've seen around for entry point.

 

Note: these are book illustrations I'm discussing, eg: Roald Dahl type books. I've done comics, but not professionally so couldn't quote you there.


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#5 Fortress Ironhold

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 03:10 AM

Talking about comics over on another website I go to, and it turns out that one of the regulars is a pretty fair artist. 

 

If I can catch them online next time I'll see if they'll give me a quote. 



#6 Fero McPigletron

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 02:41 PM

Good luck! Finish your script first, hehe

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 10:03 AM

How did anyone here handle securing IP rights for your creations? 

 

I do need to worry about that as well. 



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Posted 17 August 2018 - 02:03 PM

The anthology mag handled the IP stuff for me (since I'm writing their characters) so I dunno.

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 02:47 PM

You should look up Mythology Kingdom Unbound Ink/inc. Shaun Lee Wood and you seem like a match made in heaven.

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 01:28 AM

OK. 

 

30 pages. 

 

10 pages for the beginning (setting things up), 10 pages for the middle (conflict), 10 for the ending (resolution). 

 

First 10 pages are scripted in draft form. 

 

Planning out second 10 pages now, but I just realized that it'd create a plot hole if I re-used one of the villains from the first 10 pages, so I need to come up with a generic throw-away baddie before I can get them scripted out. 

 

I could easily have the first draft of the script done in a few weeks as long as people quit interrupting me IRL. 


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Posted 18 August 2018 - 07:56 PM

Starting to script out pages 11 - 20 now. 

 

Still waiting to hear back from the artist I was talking to. 

 

Tentative short list of publishers to solicit to, although I'm trying to investigate further. It would be to my advantage to find a publisher operating out of either Utah or Texas, as with my respective ties to both states I'd have home-court advantage to some degree when it comes to publicity and marketing (born in one; live in the other).

 

Main roadblock at this point appears to be getting the legal stuff sorted. 





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