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@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.


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#141 G.B.Blackrock

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Posted 24 May 2019 - 04:37 PM

 

Maybe I'm too tied to the characterization of Picard in the novels. Picard in the novels had no interest in becoming admiral, quite explicitly.

 

He's an explorer at heart. Being tied to a desk would have been anathema to him.

 

He doesn't have to resemble Kirk to share Kirk's antipathy to becoming admiral.

 

As an admiral, he would still have a ship. Ross had one, Riker had one, and he could have one and be in charge of exploration. Just because he is an admiral doesn't mean that he has to stay at a desk on a star base or Earth.

 

 

Admirals CAN have ships (as you point out), but I don't think it works quite like you're suggesting.

In any event, the point is that Picard is demonstrated (arguably more in the novels, but even within the canon) to have an antipathy for this specific position. I do not argue that it's impossible that he would find himself in that role, and I'm certainly happy to see what explanation (if any) is offered in the new series.

But to deny that he would have resisted it seems, to me, to deny the character we've seen up to this point.


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Posted 24 May 2019 - 04:50 PM

I don't see why anyone who ever aspired to be a starship captain would want to become an admiral.  That doesn't seem like any kind of upgrade.

 

(Well, I can see why Janeway might be done with captaining, but in normal circumstances, no.)

The reality is that no one actually aspires to be an admiral in Starfleet, they are merely promoted behind a desk before they inevitably go insane.  That's why there's so many insane admirals in Star Trek... it's how they get lunatics out of the captain's chair.


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Posted 24 May 2019 - 06:00 PM

People change over time. I could certainly see Picard rejecting the admiralty for many years until he started to realize that the captain’s chair was better for someone younger. His knowledge and experience would eventually be better suited to a slower-paced position.

Part of the reason I lost interest in Star Trek novels was their insistence that Our Heroes are basically immortal. Even if you want to accept that 24th century humans regularly live into their 140s, they still have to age and change over time.

I’m cynical about a most things in life, but I’m going to continue to maintain a positive attitude about the new generation of Star Trek. Some of you people are real buzzkills.

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Posted 24 May 2019 - 06:23 PM

I'm about a year behind on novels (I was broke and in survival mode until relatively recently), but I do know
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At that point, it just becomes a question between Admiral, Starfleet Academy instructor, or Ambassador (which involves leaving Starfleet entirely). As much as Jean-Luc would thrive as a teacher, he himself might not think he's up to it, so Admiral it is.

Plus, as tec suggested, maybe Akaar tried the same stunt he did with Riker.

"Captain, step into my office. --Congratulations, you're an admiral, deal with this crisis I'mgoingforlunchSEEYA!"

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Posted 24 May 2019 - 09:55 PM

As long as Bad Robot is involved, a good Star Trek show/movie will be utter impossibility.



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Posted 26 May 2019 - 11:55 PM

As an admiral, he would still have a ship. Ross had one, Riker had one, and he could have one and be in charge of exploration. Just because he is an admiral doesn't mean that he has to stay at a desk on a star base or Earth.


I always thought it would have made more sense for the roles in TNG to be a bit different. Since the Enterprise-D was always called the flagship of the Federation, I thought Picard should have been an admiral and Troi should have been a Federation ambassador with Riker as the ship's captain.

It would have made the importance of their actions seem more far-reaching than just another Federation starship having banal adventures because there would have been no question that they had plenipotentiary authority.

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 08:02 AM

Riker as ships captain might have been even more of a Phase 2 successor than TNG was. If memory serves, wasnt the long term plan to phase out Kirk (Shatner only signed on for a handful of episodes I think) and make Decker captain after promoting Kirk?

Edit: take what I said with a grain of salt. Im positive I read that before, but Memory Alpha does not confirm it...hmm

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 10:02 AM

I'm really hoping this show is actually about Picard's struggles in starting up an independent vineyard while dealing with the social strain of retirement.


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Posted 28 May 2019 - 10:11 AM

People change over time. I could certainly see Picard rejecting the admiralty for many years until he started to realize that the captain’s chair was better for someone younger. His knowledge and experience would eventually be better suited to a slower-paced position.

Part of the reason I lost interest in Star Trek novels was their insistence that Our Heroes are basically immortal. Even if you want to accept that 24th century humans regularly live into their 140s, they still have to age and change over time.

I’m cynical about a most things in life, but I’m going to continue to maintain a positive attitude about the new generation of Star Trek. Some of you people are real buzzkills.

 

Clearly, you haven't been reading the post-series novels, as there's TONS of change and character growth in them. "Our Heroes" are in decidedly different places in life now than they were at the ends of their assorted series....



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Posted 31 May 2019 - 08:31 PM

 

People change over time. I could certainly see Picard rejecting the admiralty for many years until he started to realize that the captain’s chair was better for someone younger. His knowledge and experience would eventually be better suited to a slower-paced position.

Part of the reason I lost interest in Star Trek novels was their insistence that Our Heroes are basically immortal. Even if you want to accept that 24th century humans regularly live into their 140s, they still have to age and change over time.

I’m cynical about a most things in life, but I’m going to continue to maintain a positive attitude about the new generation of Star Trek. Some of you people are real buzzkills.

 

Clearly, you haven't been reading the post-series novels, as there's TONS of change and character growth in them. "Our Heroes" are in decidedly different places in life now than they were at the ends of their assorted series....

 

 

 

No, my interest died before the current iteration.  I'm not really inclined to dive back in, but it does sound like they might be more to my liking.  At any rate, I'm glad they are something that people enjoy.



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Posted 28 June 2019 - 01:25 PM

And Star Trek: Picard has a showrunner: Michael Chabon.

 

https://deadline.com...ies-1202638580/


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Posted 28 June 2019 - 04:08 PM

Cool!

 

I am really looking forward to seeing this show this December!


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Posted 28 June 2019 - 08:22 PM

I'm vaguely bothered by the fact that they have filmed several episodes now and are just now announcing a show runner.  Maybe it's a late announcement rather than a late decision.



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Posted 29 June 2019 - 11:58 PM

May be too little, too late, but anything that shows Hollywood finally realizing that Kurtzman&Orci suck, both as a team and individually, is welcome (if overdue) news.



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Posted 01 July 2019 - 08:34 AM

May be too little, too late, but anything that shows Hollywood finally realizing that Kurtzman&Orci suck, both as a team and individually, is welcome (if overdue) news.

 

They did a good job with TF Prime, but I haven't been impressed with their Star Trek work.


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Posted 10 July 2019 - 03:21 PM

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Posted 10 July 2019 - 04:38 PM

On one hand - Yay for Pibble rehabilitation!

 

On the other hand - Boo for the implication that even late into the 24th Century, Humans are still mutilating these dogs by clipping their ears.



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Posted 10 July 2019 - 06:22 PM

I am so amped for this show! I want that poster on my wall!


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Posted 10 July 2019 - 08:28 PM

sooo... John Wick Picard??? 


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