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@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.


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Posted 08 October 2019 - 02:09 AM

I'd love to be able to get excited about this, but so far these two trailers have not done anything to make me think I'm gonna like this show once it gets past the cast reunions and starts in on the "mystery kid of importance" plot.


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Posted 08 October 2019 - 07:28 AM

That's the problem with these season-long story arcs.  You have to have a REALLY compelling story and characters if you're going to pull that off.  Imagine if Encounter at Farpoint lasted the entire first season.  



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Posted 08 October 2019 - 07:48 AM

You also need to have a pretty good idea of where you're going. Never raise a question to which you don't already have an answer for.



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Posted 08 October 2019 - 09:07 AM

We are all assuming these trailers represent the entire season arc.  Suppose that these scenes are just from the first two episodes.  When the previews for Discovery dropped, we all assumed that the show would be about first contact and war with the Klingons.  How big a role did that REALLY play in the first season...or second.  I think that this preview is supposed to get the Xers on board, Picard will sacrifice his life heroically, they will get "River Romulan" back home, they will name the ship Picard, and then they can ump into "Firefly of the Alpha quadrant".  I hope I am wrong, but there is a precedent...


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Posted 08 October 2019 - 10:22 AM

We are all assuming these trailers represent the entire season arc.  Suppose that these scenes are just from the first two episodes.  When the previews for Discovery dropped, we all assumed that the show would be about first contact and war with the Klingons.  How big a role did that REALLY play in the first season...or second.  I think that this preview is supposed to get the Xers on board, Picard will sacrifice his life heroically, they will get "River Romulan" back home, they will name the ship Picard, and then they can ump into "Firefly of the Alpha quadrant".  I hope I am wrong, but there is a precedent...

 

Something tells me Picard isn't going to get killed off. Just saying.


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Posted 08 October 2019 - 01:26 PM

Patrick Stewart said early on that they were hoping for three seasons.  Robert Picardo has been contacted for season 2.

 

The trailer did its job of exciting me.  Data appearing only in dreams, if that's what it turns out to be, would be fine with me.



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Posted 08 October 2019 - 02:45 PM

 

We are all assuming these trailers represent the entire season arc.  Suppose that these scenes are just from the first two episodes.  When the previews for Discovery dropped, we all assumed that the show would be about first contact and war with the Klingons.  How big a role did that REALLY play in the first season...or second.  I think that this preview is supposed to get the Xers on board, Picard will sacrifice his life heroically, they will get "River Romulan" back home, they will name the ship Picard, and then they can ump into "Firefly of the Alpha quadrant".  I hope I am wrong, but there is a precedent...

 

Something tells me Picard isn't going to get killed off. Just saying.

 

I don't know, that would set the stakes and create audience contempt for the villain.  If they can kill Kirk with a bridge, they can do what they want with Picard.


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Posted 08 October 2019 - 08:05 PM

Can we not mention the bridge?

 

As a major TOS fan, Generations just got Kirk several shades of wrong. Granted Shatner's post-Generations resurrection of Kirk was several shades of wrong but even MORE wrong (Though I did enjoy the dynamic of the Romulan Commander and her Assimilated consort, credit where credit is due), but man...I liked Kirk's death in the beginning of the film more then what came after. Especially not his naff Nexus dreamscape. Picard gets his nephew in his but Kirk doesn't even get a cameo appearance by David?



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Posted 09 October 2019 - 12:30 AM

I hope the landscape of the modern galaxy we end up seeing does actually build off of the stuff set in motion by say, DS9. I never read any of the Pocketverse stuff but like, Star Trek Online has that bland and boring MMO faction split in the lore, I'd hate to see anything like that tbh.

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 08:48 AM

Can we not mention the bridge?

 

As a major TOS fan, Generations just got Kirk several shades of wrong. Granted Shatner's post-Generations resurrection of Kirk was several shades of wrong but even MORE wrong (Though I did enjoy the dynamic of the Romulan Commander and her Assimilated consort, credit where credit is due), but man...I liked Kirk's death in the beginning of the film more then what came after. Especially not his naff Nexus dreamscape. Picard gets his nephew in his but Kirk doesn't even get a cameo appearance by David?

 

Well to be fair, the actor who played him was dead by then. As was the actress who played Carol.

 

And yes, they could've recast, but at the same time, Kirk had pretty much come to terms with his son's passing and moved on from it. Picard was still mourning his nephew, so that better justifies the kid's appearance.


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Posted 09 October 2019 - 08:52 AM

Kirk's deepest desire was never to settle down in a cabin. We literally had six movies exploring this aspect to his personality. Hell, it was a major point at the BEGINNING of the movie!

 

In hindsight, Generations was the movie to let us know that continuity, be it from show or movie, was going straight out the window.


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Posted 09 October 2019 - 11:57 AM

In hindsight, Generations was the movie to let us know that continuity, be it from show or movie, was going straight out the window.

That is why I feel that they may do it to us again.

 

Something from the trailer spoke to me.  I wonder if it was a message to fans.

"This is no longer your house, go home"

 

It is almost like

"Let the past die, kill it if you have to"


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Posted 09 October 2019 - 12:36 PM

Had a revelation about Legolas.

 

He may not be Vulcan or Romulan, He is probably Mintaken...a protovulcan from "Who watches the watchers".  It might explain why he uses a sword.

 

Included is a screencap from the episode in question and the trailers.

 

Or it could just be that both were filmed at Vasquez rocks (it wouldn't be Trek without one cameo by the rocks)

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 03:15 PM

Some of y'all have got some weird ideas about what catastrophes are likely.

Patrick Stewart said early on that they were hoping for three seasons.  Robert Picardo has been contacted for season 2.

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Posted 25 October 2019 - 09:36 AM

Patrick Stewart's Admiral Picard costume is on display at Destination Star Trek in Birmingham.

 

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Posted 25 October 2019 - 11:03 AM

He's an Admiral?



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Posted 25 October 2019 - 11:10 AM

Neat!  It clearly holds up the tradition that admiral uniforms must be garish.


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Posted 25 October 2019 - 05:24 PM

TNG had the worst admiral uniforms.

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Posted 25 October 2019 - 05:27 PM

Not as ugly as TNG's assorted Admiral uniforms, but I still prefer the First Contact & later DS9 Admiral tunics with the fancy Federation emblem belt buckle.

 

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Posted 25 October 2019 - 05:28 PM

Even Kirk's admiral uniform in TMP was cool. Probably the best uniform in the movie (which isn't saying much, admittedly).

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