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@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN


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#21 The Predaking

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 04:09 PM

To me it had the best combat in both space and hand to hand of any of films(up to that point because Spock vs Khan was epic). The borg were a ton more dangerous than they ever were in the series. And personally, I like the Borg Queen as a living avatar of the collective. Cochran steals every scene that he is in, so most of the planet side scenes are great to me.


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 07:14 PM

Yeah, First Contact was the Borg Queen done right.

Voyager picked up the concept and proceeded to ignore what the movie explicitly established (the Queen isn't the "ruler" of the Collective, she's a handpuppet being worn by an eldritch abomination).

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 09:19 PM

Man, over 20 years on and the arguments on First Contact introducing the Queen to the Borg are never going to end, are they?


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Posted 15 August 2018 - 10:25 PM

Why should they?  They took what is supposed to be a faceless, emotionless entity and gave us the fact that it still can't get over Picard.

 

Ironbite-despite every evidence that they really should.


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Posted 16 August 2018 - 08:11 AM

Man, over 20 years on and the arguments on First Contact introducing the Queen to the Borg are never going to end, are they?

 

Not if I have anything to say about it!


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Posted 16 August 2018 - 07:58 PM

Yeah, First Contact was the Borg Queen done right.

Voyager picked up the concept and proceeded to ignore what the movie explicitly established (the Queen isn't the "ruler" of the Collective, she's a handpuppet being worn by an eldritch abomination).

 

While I like that explanation, I have seen the movie many times and that has never occurred to me.  I don't think it fits, though.  Why did all the Borg die when the handpuppet died?



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Posted 16 August 2018 - 08:19 PM

She's the collective's man focus node.  When they went back to the past to undo the future that is Aku, the Borg got cut off from the rest of the Collective save for this tiny piece.

 

Ironbite-the piece that had a boner for Loctus.


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Posted 21 August 2018 - 01:20 PM

Here is an idea...I know it gets into bad fanfiction...but here goes.

 

Q could have saved Data before he went boom.  He set him up in a remote planet to explore his humanity.  Data looses his mind in isolation and realizes that a being that had the mind of a human and the body of a machine was the superior life form.  He knew the Borg failed because they had the mind of a machine, and human parts.  He experiments with this concept and realizes he can create the bodies and "free" minds to go into them.  He begins a quest to "help" humanity by helping it to the next stage of evolution.  He travels around capturing humans and downloading them.  Some take well and some do not.  Many little "cyber" kingdoms pop up as people use their newfound strength to subjugate others.

 

A federation starship stumbles on a kingdom and find the origin.

 

Starfleet knows that only one man can reason with Data...Picard.  So the pull him from retirement.

 

This ship transports him and they chase down Data.

 

In following him, they run across many kingdoms and problems.  Each episode could be a different problem to solve as each "antagonist" is just a person with a different part of their personality amplified.  There would be many opportunities for morality plays and pondering.  It would also give the opportunity to wrap up each episode an allow stand alone adventures.  Each of the new crew could shine and bring their own brand of problem solving to this.

 

The ultimate moral question is "Is it right to change someone for the better, against their will?"  In the final episode, Q, Picard and Data can debate this in true Next Gen fashion.

 

I could watch that.


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Posted 21 August 2018 - 01:41 PM

If I had my way, Data would have been made a real boy by Q and has spent the last thirty years living on some distant federation colony. He could even have a family. Through a series of events he rejoins starfleet and adventures ensue.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 01:50 PM

She's the collective's man focus node.  When they went back to the past to undo the future that is Aku, the Borg got cut off from the rest of the Collective save for this tiny piece.
 
Ironbite-the piece that had a boner for Loctus.


Well it WAS the MAN focus mode... (assuming it was a typo for 'main' instead of an intentional joke)
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Posted 22 August 2018 - 12:35 PM

I really want this series to bring Data back. He was my favorite character and his death was a tragedy. That being said, the description upthread of how the novels brought him back really feels...overly complex and fanwanky, and just...not good, at least on paper. I'd rather they just go with what happened in IDW's Countdown comic where

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. I'd also like to note that everyone (including the actor) forgot that he said on TNG that part of his design caused him to appear to naturally age.

 

That being also said, though, I don't need him to come back to the show necessarily, I'd be fine with Picard being like, "yeah, he's fine, he recovered, he's out there doing his thing somewhere."



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Posted 22 August 2018 - 01:06 PM

As much as I want Data back, having Q intervene in a non-Q story would fundamentally break Star Trek.  How can there ever be any tension or consequences if there is a literal god standing by to rescue our heroes?  



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Posted 22 August 2018 - 01:22 PM

I really want this series to bring Data back. He was my favorite character and his death was a tragedy. That being said, the description upthread of how the novels brought him back really feels...overly complex and fanwanky, and just...not good, at least on paper. I'd rather they just go with what happened in IDW's Countdown comic where

Spoiler
. I'd also like to note that everyone (including the actor) forgot that he said on TNG that part of his design caused him to appear to naturally age.

 

That being also said, though, I don't need him to come back to the show necessarily, I'd be fine with Picard being like, "yeah, he's fine, he recovered, he's out there doing his thing somewhere."

I agree with the fanwankery, but this entire series is meant to appeal to nostalgia of the 90's.  It would be a cheap way for them to maximize their profits...and make a show

 

As much as I want Data back, having Q intervene in a non-Q story would fundamentally break Star Trek.  How can there ever be any tension or consequences if there is a literal god standing by to rescue our heroes?  

I don't think he is rescuing Data, he is using him to create a crisis and further test Picard.

 

Granted, this is not the best idea, but probably similar to something CBS would try.


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Posted 22 August 2018 - 02:24 PM

A one off to fix a stupid decision would be fine by me. I normally agree. And it's nor like Q mucking around is out of character where Jean Luc is concerned. He is his favorite human.
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Posted 22 August 2018 - 02:39 PM

The trouble with Data "reasserting" himself through B4 is that it means Data killed his mentally-disabled brother and stole his body.

(And that's ignoring the practical considerations of getting the positronic equivalent of a supercomputer's OS to run on an 80s-era Commodore.)

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 02:57 PM

Yes, B4's body really isn't designed to house Data's consciousness... and certainly doesn't contain the hardware necessary for it to actually express itself properly. The Cold Equations novel addressed all this, too... even had it been possible, Dr. Soong stated unequivocally that he was unwilling to sacrifice B4 to save Data or vice versa, considering both of them his children and deserving of existence. During the process that restored Data, B4 also received numerous software enhancements that would allow him to function at a more competent level going forwards.


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Posted 26 August 2018 - 07:41 PM

You know what fanwank I would literally pay to see in this series? For the show to spend its budget bringing back a Voyager cast member just to have the character canonically declare, "Oh yeah once during the Delta Quadrant journey Tom accidentally took some really powerful drugs. Had a ridiculous dream about exceeding warp 10 and mutating with the Captain to become lizard things."

 

Worst. Episode. Ever.

 

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Posted 26 August 2018 - 09:23 PM

Isn't is possible by this point starfleet would be full AI's, too? I mean, speaking of Voyager, studying the emergency medical hologram should really make that a possibility.

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 05:05 AM

The Borg Queen to me has always felt like one of those awkward times where late 90s Trek was saying "Some fanservice with your technobabble, sir?"

Voyager was already mining that with Seven of Nine wearing a ridiculous high heel jumpsuit and her Borg implants reduced to the eyebrow thing and the bit on her hand.

The Borg Queen is that problem when writers start exploring an unstoppable popular antagonist. The more you peel off the layers and show relatable links, the more what makes them appealing dies. The Borg are horrific for the same reason zombies or the Cybermen- they're basically marching corpses, with just a vestige of humanity left. They are a relentless hive mind who more than have the technology to back up their ambitions and worst of all they can make you one of them in an instant, your own unique identity snuffed out.

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 05:48 AM

Worst. Episode. Ever.

 

Not even the worst episode of that season.





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