Jump to content


Toggle shoutbox Squawkbox Open the Shoutbox in a popup

Please don't post Youtube videos in the chat box. The forums software auto embeds them. 

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P


Photo
- - - - -

Star Trek: Picard - Season 1 Spoilers Inside!


1379 replies to this topic

#361 SHIELD Agent 47

SHIELD Agent 47

    Skull Leader

  • Retired Staff
  • 10055 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:地球
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 29 October 2019 - 09:57 AM

Is he actually *in* this story, though?  I want to see him (or some Soong-type android) outside of dreams or flashbacks.

 

I assume from the first trailer that B-4 will appear because, following on from the ending to Nemesis, Starfleet is trying to resurrect Data via the files he copied over to B-4.

 

They already did that in Countdown + Star Trek Online, as David Mack did separately in the novels by Pocket Books. Now a high-budget TV series will do a own canon take on the storyline because Data is way too beloved a character for Picard's showrunners to leave alone.



#362 Rust

Rust

    Slightly Off

  • Supporter
  • 48093 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Nebraska
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 29 October 2019 - 05:39 PM

Can I just say I hate the idea that Data is revived via B4, simply because it inevitably ends with B4 being if not outright replaced then submerged.

 

Nothing speaks of the bright, glorious future that is Star Trek's Federation quite like having the self-sacrificing genius seize control of the body of his Special Needs brother, even if it was a unintended side effect. That's the kind of crap I expect Lore to pull.



#363 CORVUS

CORVUS

    Holy crap!

  • Supporter
  • 33656 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Somewhere infinitely improbable.
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 29 October 2019 - 09:20 PM

Exactly. While the whole story was way too grandiose, I did like the way that the Star trek books handle that issue, when Soong resurfaced, because B4 finished up remaining his own person when it was all said and done.
"Whoa, it's been upgraded to stank. Just last week it was only stink. Stonk can't be far away." - Strong Bad

 


#364 TM2-Megatron

TM2-Megatron
  • Supporter
  • 10842 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Toronto, Canada
  • Faction::Equestrian

Posted 29 October 2019 - 10:43 PM

Exactly. While the whole story was way too grandiose, I did like the way that the Star trek books handle that issue, when Soong resurfaced, because B4 finished up remaining his own person when it was all said and done.

 

It got a bit grandiose in the 2nd and 3rd books of that series, but Persistence of Memory was a fantastic read.



#365 CORVUS

CORVUS

    Holy crap!

  • Supporter
  • 33656 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Somewhere infinitely improbable.
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 30 October 2019 - 07:34 PM

Agreed.
"Whoa, it's been upgraded to stank. Just last week it was only stink. Stonk can't be far away." - Strong Bad

 


#366 Benbot

Benbot

    What a nerd

  • Supporter
  • 5674 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Never Past Bedtime Land

Posted 05 November 2019 - 11:07 AM

You know what, I think they should abandon restraint and just go full on fan service by giving us William Shatner as Kirk again.  I don't care how they explain it away, I just want them to do it.  The man (both of them) is a legend, let's see him on screen one last time!  Who's with me?



#367 ▲ndrusi

▲ndrusi

    Praise be to Stakeout.

  • Supporter
  • 27374 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:YES TOWN
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 20 December 2019 - 05:33 PM

New trailer.

#368 The Predaking

The Predaking

    Finally! A new Predaking is here!

  • Administrator
  • 40324 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Somewhere with Netflix
  • Faction::Predacon

Posted 20 December 2019 - 06:07 PM

Woot! 

 

I can't wait!


Restoring an Old Arcade Machine!

 

http://www.allspark....ade-game/page-2

 

 


#369 Axaday

Axaday
  • Supporter
  • 34939 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Heartland of America

Posted 20 December 2019 - 06:09 PM

Seems like a thoroughly useless trailer.



#370 Maximus Ambus

Maximus Ambus
  • Citizen
  • 6492 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:England
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 21 December 2019 - 04:07 AM

We have a Warsie. KILL IT!


14424580661_11292a86a0_n.jpg


#371 LiamA

LiamA
  • Citizen
  • 3367 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:North Charleston, SC
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 21 December 2019 - 07:21 AM

My take on this show. Patrick Stewart was tired of waiting for a guest spot on 'The Orville' so he decided to make his own sci-fi show.



#372 Kup

Kup
  • Supporter
  • 3256 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 21 December 2019 - 12:18 PM

^ This

But also I believe Stewart would only do the show if he believes in the story. That gives me hope. And in this day and age, we all need some hope.
"Someone once told me that Time is a predator that stalked us all our lives, but I'd rather believe that Time is a companion who goes with us on the journey, and reminds us to cherish every moment -- because they'll never come again."

#373 AgentOrange

AgentOrange
  • Citizen
  • 1404 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Faction::Maximal

Posted 21 December 2019 - 01:14 PM

^ This

But also I believe Stewart would only do the show if he believes in the story. That gives me hope. And in this day and age, we all need some hope.


X3 tells me otherwise
You may be a lover but you ain't no dancer

#374 Rycochet

Rycochet

    We are hostages.

  • Citizen
  • 3662 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Outside of the Democratic world.
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 21 December 2019 - 01:21 PM

He was in the emoji movie... as poop.



#375 ZacWilliam1

ZacWilliam1
  • Citizen
  • 17982 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ct. USA
  • Faction::RIRFIB

Posted 21 December 2019 - 02:22 PM


To be fair, in a very real sense everyone in that movie was.

ZacWilliam, everyone.
Ever wonder about the speed of Turbofoxes?
Or the proverbial ailerons of Titanium Moosebots?

*Visit the one and only Cybertronic Bestiary.
For a mechazoologic tour of the mechanimals of Cybertron.


#376 Cradok

Cradok
  • Citizen
  • 877 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 21 December 2019 - 02:23 PM

He was fine with rally driving around a pre-warp planet shooting at the natives.



#377 Kup

Kup
  • Supporter
  • 3256 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 22 December 2019 - 03:53 PM

You guys have proved your point. Way to shatter my hope just before Christmas 😂
"Someone once told me that Time is a predator that stalked us all our lives, but I'd rather believe that Time is a companion who goes with us on the journey, and reminds us to cherish every moment -- because they'll never come again."

#378 Benbot

Benbot

    What a nerd

  • Supporter
  • 5674 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Never Past Bedtime Land

Posted 22 December 2019 - 06:35 PM

I don't have high hopes in the story, but I do enjoy watching Patrick Stewart having fun.  If he enjoys it, I'll enjoy it.



#379 CORVUS

CORVUS

    Holy crap!

  • Supporter
  • 33656 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Somewhere infinitely improbable.
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 22 December 2019 - 06:54 PM

Rally-driving in NEMESIS was pretty lame, like the rest of that damn film. However, he and Worf in the Captain's yacht going after Data while singing "A British Tar" in INSURRECTION was hilariously awesome.


"Whoa, it's been upgraded to stank. Just last week it was only stink. Stonk can't be far away." - Strong Bad

 


#380 Rust

Rust

    Slightly Off

  • Supporter
  • 48093 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Nebraska
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 22 December 2019 - 08:23 PM

Insurrection was one of the better of TNG's Two-Parters.

 

...

 

...

 

...IT'S WHAT?!





Reply to this topic



  


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users