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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2019 - 10:36 PM)

Ex-Bundeswehr personnel, eh? Fascinating.

@  Pinkcolliebot : (20 October 2019 - 09:43 PM)

TF Roll Out Hot Rod's Presentation is coming real soon!!

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 01:05 PM)

So whenever he addresses his troops, he keeps cracking jokes. Sometimes these jokes are about the blunders he himself had made in his speech the previous day.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 01:01 PM)

At the moment, I'm blessed with a pretty nice superior. He's got a military background, but he takes an oddly entertaining approach to it. Imagine a stand-up comedian who accidentally enlisted as a drill sergeant.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 12:54 PM)

Another type of everyday absurdity: Imagine you're leaving your workplace for your lunchbreak. Upon your return, you discover that your workplace has been cordened and/or gated off during your break, with "construction site" warning signs everywhere. You go to your superior and tell him: "I can no longer access my workplace! Why is there suddenly a construction site?" Your superior takes a surpised look and says: "I don't know, first time I see this." You figure: "Must be a Tuesday, then."

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 12:51 PM)

It's kind of surreal, really.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 12:50 PM)

They agree that things are less than ideal, but they acknowledge that their scope of making decisions is limited. Oddly, I keep getting that regardless of how high up the chain of command I bother people.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 12:49 PM)

"I hear you, but you know how it is, there's nothing I can do about it." That's it, basically.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 October 2019 - 06:40 AM)

What's it like to have management that's willing to listen to things they don't want to hear? I've never seen that.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 04:41 AM)

I manage to argue within the company's own internal logic and point out the flaws, shortcomings and discrepancies between "official company policy" and "everyday company reality".

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 04:40 AM)

Many of my coworkers are scared to even talk to managers. I often discuss company matters with them I disagree with, and it isn't a rare occurrence that they say "yeah, you're right..."

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 04:38 AM)

I know how to watch my tone, and I prefer to keep things straightforward and factual, never to attack the person, always the problem itself.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 04:37 AM)

The good thing for me is ever since a minor hiccup many years ago when I was still non-permanent, I've always managed to along just fine with my various superiors (I've been through over a dozen already). And that's despite my outspokenness, my blunt honesty and my oftentimes harsh criticism.

@  Sabrblade : (18 October 2019 - 11:04 PM)

With visuals presented by the Cybernet Space Cube

@  Dekafox : (18 October 2019 - 04:51 PM)

And don't forget to sign up for a cybersecurity seminar while you're there

@  Dekafox : (18 October 2019 - 04:47 PM)

Well you can always strap on some cyberlimbs and go into cyberspace for a cyberpunk experience

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 October 2019 - 04:28 PM)

You know that "cyber" doesn't mean "cyborg", right?

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 October 2019 - 04:16 PM)

So where's the Cyborgs on CYBERtron?

@  The Doctor Who : (18 October 2019 - 03:47 PM)

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@  Benbot : (18 October 2019 - 10:40 AM)

Why does every damn website want to send me notifications? NO, no one wants your popups! Quit asking!

@  Echowarrior : (18 October 2019 - 09:19 AM)

Amazon in the US has pretty good benefits, though, and even the temp workers had forty hours a week to start with. Even with minimum wage, that's pretty good pay.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2019 - 01:20 AM)

Oh, the turnover rates are high here as well.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 October 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Amazon.com and .ca, on the other hand, can be pretty terrible. I know from your squawkbox posts that you guys have your issues with Amazon over there, although you're lucky to have stronger government regulations and a union there. I gather the warehouse workers in the USA and Canada have it pretty crappy, with very high turnover, close to minimum wage pay, and no unions

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 October 2019 - 09:38 PM)

Amazon.de doesn't really have the same issue. I've ordered from them (and UK, FR, IT and JP) several times, and their packaging is much better

@  Nevermore : (17 October 2019 - 05:22 PM)

I'm not sure how it works on the customer's end. As packers, we sometimes have items that are flagged as "overwrap", which means we absolutely have to put them into a box even if they're already in pretty sturdy manufacturer packaging.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 October 2019 - 03:05 PM)

Yeah, I really do wish amazon had an option to upgrade packaging for an extra buck or something. I hate their bubble mailers

@  Benbot : (17 October 2019 - 07:17 AM)

That's how it works. I just hope my order from Amazon doesn't arrive crushed because they idiotically stuffed it in an envelope.

@  Telly : (16 October 2019 - 10:48 PM)

my walmart is acting true to form. as soon as mirage arrives from amazon, my walmart gets his entire wave in after months of having wave 1 clogging the pegs....

@  Nevermore : (16 October 2019 - 05:18 PM)

I stirred up some trouble at work, complained about the blatant neglect of employee safety. Was asked to take photos and write down the locations so the matter could be properly escalated. Made me feel a little better.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 October 2019 - 02:55 PM)

I got stabbed in the eyelid by a mudwasp, pulled down a tree, and then got ice cream. You know, all told: not a bad day.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 October 2019 - 09:17 AM)

Burrunjor

@  Paladin : (15 October 2019 - 08:04 AM)

your mom.

@  Benbot : (15 October 2019 - 08:02 AM)

What's your favorite Paleolithic megafauna?

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2019 - 10:06 PM)

Together with the Rhino G1 sets, probably the most expensive DVDs I ever bought

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2019 - 10:01 PM)

I've still got the age-old Rhino sets

@  Telly : (14 October 2019 - 09:09 PM)

i didnt find that at any of the ones around here, so i had to settle for seasons 1 and 2 of duckman for $3

@  Steevy Maximus : (14 October 2019 - 07:45 PM)

Heck, I got the season 2/3 set for $3 (?) from a Dollar General discount bin :p

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2019 - 07:29 PM)

The series is pretty cheap on DVD, too, which at least will work internet or no. The complete series set seems to be OOP, but there's a Season 1 set as well as a combined 2 & 3 set.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2019 - 06:10 PM)

Woot! Beast wars!

@  Steevy Maximus : (14 October 2019 - 06:08 PM)

Yay! Tubi now has the first season of Rescue Bots and the full run of Beast Wars FINALLY available.

@  Benbot : (14 October 2019 - 02:16 PM)

Just like me in a game of Civilization. Don't have gunpowder? Time for your cities to burn.

@  Rycochet : (14 October 2019 - 01:51 PM)

He dubbed the peoples that saw him as bad news cannibals and savages before enslaving and wiping them out too.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2019 - 01:40 PM)

And if they had been unfriendly: he would have simply slaughtered them with diseases they couldn't fight, and technology they couldn't match until they as a people did not exist. There's something about european backgrounds that drive us to exploit.

@  Rycochet : (14 October 2019 - 11:02 AM)

He described the peoples he encountered as some of the most friendly and giving in the world, so naturally, he ate all their food, enslaved them and put them to work looking for gold that did not exist, until they as a people did not exist.

@  Paladin : (14 October 2019 - 09:57 AM)

he landed by coincidence in front of long-term residents.

@  Sabrblade : (14 October 2019 - 09:55 AM)

He said the world was round-o! (He said the world was round-o!) He said it could be found-o! (He said it could be found-o!) That hypothetical, calculated, son-of-a-gun, Columbo! (That hypothetical, calculated, son-of-a-gun, Columbo!)

@  Benbot : (14 October 2019 - 09:22 AM)

In the year 1492, Columbus gave us the day off skoo

@  Noideaforaname : (14 October 2019 - 08:59 AM)

How often do people actually celebrate Columbus or the Pilgrims? Usually it just feels like celebrating the first break in the school year and a nice dinner with the family.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2019 - 08:29 AM)

You've got like two more weeks until the american thanksgiving. Canadian thanksgiving is literally a harvest festival.

@  CVReynolds : (14 October 2019 - 08:09 AM)

Hey, everyone. Come together to enjoy this national holiday made to celebrate a mass-murderer who never set foot in the USA. What fun!


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Posted 10 January 2019 - 07:47 PM

I still can't believe Beyond wasn't a bigger hit. I loved that movie.

 

As much as I loved Into Darkness, it's the movie that was wrapped in a shitty, Wrath of Khan wrapper. Going back to that well after the TNG era did nothing BUT try to copy its formula lost the interest of a lot of movie goers and those Trek fans (like myself) who grew disenfranchised in that era. It was a sense of "Oh, they're doing this formula again?"

 

Beyond was what the second film of the franchise ought to have been, even though Into Darkness was needed to get Kirk from the 09 film to the Kirk we saw in Beyond.

 

It was just too little, too late. And even then with Pine's career exploding after Beyond, it was always iffy as to whether or not he'd go back to a franchise like Trek, that notoriously tends to stagnate the careers of the actors who partake in it. Bakula had to wait nine years before he was a lead actor in a series again.



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Posted 10 January 2019 - 09:27 PM

I remember watching "Beyond" and thinking it was better than "Into Darkness," but otherwise I can't remember a thing that happened in it.


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Posted 10 January 2019 - 10:08 PM

There was also an Enterprise reference, and an ugly space station that didn't make a lick of practical sense.

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 10:57 PM

I didn't watch Beyond until late last year, just because that awful trailer plus Into Darkness left such a sour taste in my mouth.  I didn't expect to love it as much as I did, it's that movie alone that makes me want another 3 movies with this cast.

 

Not a perfect movie by any means though, particularly due to a severe misuse of Idris Elba.



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Posted 11 January 2019 - 01:34 PM

It was just too little, too late. And even then with Pine's career exploding after Beyond, it was always iffy as to whether or not he'd go back to a franchise like Trek, that notoriously tends to stagnate the careers of the actors who partake in it. Bakula had to wait nine years before he was a lead actor in a series again.

 

 

Most actors would kill to have ONE multi-year-running series they could claim to have starred in. By the end of Enterprise, Bakula already had two. I'm not weeping for him. 



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Posted 11 January 2019 - 05:25 PM

an ugly space station that didn't make a lick of practical sense.

 

Yeah, almost like it was a habitat they specifically stated was built from the ground up in space, so it didn't have to conform to standard gravitational limitations of geometry.

 

Yorktown's by no means a pretty station, but it was unique. And at least it was something other than San Fransisco that was being devastated in an Abramsverse Trek movie. I'm going to assume the city holds a substantial Romulan population for how much of a beating it takes (Nero's drill and Vengeance literally crashing on top of it).


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Posted 11 January 2019 - 05:54 PM

Yeah, almost like it was a habitat they specifically stated was built from the ground up in space, so it didn't have to conform to standard gravitational limitations of geometry.

Yeah, because artificial gravity is finger-wavey magic and doesn't need to have coherent internal logic in the science fiction franchise.

There's also the fact that the (non-pressurized) space docks are RIGHT HUGGING NEXT to the wide open civilian areas, separated only by sheets of transparent aluminum.

And that the atmosphere is held in by a massive forcefield bubble which would instantly disappear if something causes the power to flicker.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 06:10 PM

Yup. If we want to get into technical quackery in Trek, we could be at this for quite a while.

 

Though what's funny is I originally was citing how Voyager had a Holodeck system (Presumably quite the energy hog) not tied into the main reactor, but TNG had a Holodeck system that allowed the construction of solid light components that could seize control of aforementioned main reactor. Then it hit me, the reason Voyager's Holodeck isn't tied into the network is BECAUSE OF what Barclay did in TNG.

 

So you win this round, Voyager writing staff. *Shakes fist*


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Posted 11 January 2019 - 06:37 PM

I'm not sure whether how it's powered matters; all the holodecks on Starfleet ships are connected to the main computer core, and via that a clever enough user could hack their way to controlling anything else connected to it, including the M/AM reactor.



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Posted 12 January 2019 - 05:37 AM

Holodecks seem antiquated now given the possibilities of virtual reality, think The Matrix or San Junipero in Black Mirror or virtual space in Caprica.

Voyager only had two for a hundred and fifty people, the Enterprise D had a few, Memory Alpha says Seven but I once heard it had four, such things would probably have reservations.


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Posted 12 January 2019 - 07:18 AM

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 12:55 PM

Holodecks seem antiquated now given the possibilities of virtual reality, think The Matrix or San Junipero in Black Mirror or virtual space in Caprica.

Voyager only had two for a hundred and fifty people, the Enterprise D had a few, Memory Alpha says Seven but I once heard it had four, such things would probably have reservations.

 

Well, holodecks provide an actual physical space and material objects through which to live out one's fantasies. There will always be people who would value the physical, visceral experience of that compared to something like The Matrix, which just interfaces with your brain to create the illusion of whatever environment is desired. Sure, you can learn Kung Fu in the matrix; but in doing so your physical body won't attain the conditioning needed to actually practice it in the real world. Not so for the holodeck.



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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:02 PM

Also note that holodecks aren't used just for fantasies; we also see them used for training, research, and social/diplomatic functions that can't be performed elsewhere.

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:12 PM

I still fundamentally question how a society with holodecks and replicators does not devolve into hedonistic anarchy, Human nature being what it is. That being said, one of my principle defenses in the criticism to Into Darkness with Marcus using Khan to develop the Vengeance and how a 300 year old being who predates Warp Travel could be of use on that front is that after World War III and the Post Atomic Horror that followed it, Human psyche fundamentally changed in such a way that our modern natures and inclinations became almost alien to the generations who lived after.

 

Or maybe the core worlds of the Federation are in a state of hedonistic anarchy, given the commonality of world governments being usurped by alien infiltrators on a depressingly routine basis.



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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:25 PM

Star Trek was built on optimism and idealism, Its why we make peace with the Vulcans when they land, rather then shoot them. So human nature likely has shifted. Faced with the brink of extinction in a post-apocalyptic world humanity decided to be better to recover itself, rather then 'hug it' and start waging war against the universe. As we are in the real world, could never lead to the kind of world that Star Trek presents. So to compare the human nature that we know to Star Trek is pointless.


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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:27 PM

Once you're a few generations into a post-scarcity society of people who've never known real want of anything, and who know with every fiber of their being that regardless of what happens, the necessities of life will always be available to them, I think you'd probably see some significant shifts in behavior compared to modern people. The kind of greed we see today, in a world where people are still fighting for limited resources and many don't know if they'll have food or a roof over their head from one night to the next (even in the world's richest country, to say nothing of its poorest), would become very rare.


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Posted 13 January 2019 - 06:16 PM

Also note that, in every society, the two biggest questions are "what behaviour will be punished?" and "what behaviour will be rewarded?" After a few generations (and backed up by access to education and the means to avoid poverty), learned behaviours like values and morality tend to become mostly self-sustaining. People in the Federation clearly value productive labour and social engagement for its own sake, with people like Reg Barclay (prone to holo-addiction) or Tom Paris (with his reckless daredevil tendencies) being outliers who are given counselling and (ideally) led toward a place where their abilities can be used productively.

(Also consider that the Vulcans are probably experts in long-term social engineering, given how Surak's teachings have become normalized across all strata of Vulcan society, and they played an active role in Earth's reconstruction and the eventual formation of the Federation.)

It's less a matter of changing human nature and more about creating a society where things like unchecked avarice, bigotry, and cruelty will get you arrested and not, y'know, elected president.



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