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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2019 - 10:36 PM)

Ex-Bundeswehr personnel, eh? Fascinating.

@  Pinkcolliebot : (20 October 2019 - 09:43 PM)

TF Roll Out Hot Rod's Presentation is coming real soon!!

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 01:05 PM)

So whenever he addresses his troops, he keeps cracking jokes. Sometimes these jokes are about the blunders he himself had made in his speech the previous day.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 01:01 PM)

At the moment, I'm blessed with a pretty nice superior. He's got a military background, but he takes an oddly entertaining approach to it. Imagine a stand-up comedian who accidentally enlisted as a drill sergeant.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 12:54 PM)

Another type of everyday absurdity: Imagine you're leaving your workplace for your lunchbreak. Upon your return, you discover that your workplace has been cordened and/or gated off during your break, with "construction site" warning signs everywhere. You go to your superior and tell him: "I can no longer access my workplace! Why is there suddenly a construction site?" Your superior takes a surpised look and says: "I don't know, first time I see this." You figure: "Must be a Tuesday, then."

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 12:51 PM)

It's kind of surreal, really.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 12:50 PM)

They agree that things are less than ideal, but they acknowledge that their scope of making decisions is limited. Oddly, I keep getting that regardless of how high up the chain of command I bother people.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 12:49 PM)

"I hear you, but you know how it is, there's nothing I can do about it." That's it, basically.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 October 2019 - 06:40 AM)

What's it like to have management that's willing to listen to things they don't want to hear? I've never seen that.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 04:41 AM)

I manage to argue within the company's own internal logic and point out the flaws, shortcomings and discrepancies between "official company policy" and "everyday company reality".

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 04:40 AM)

Many of my coworkers are scared to even talk to managers. I often discuss company matters with them I disagree with, and it isn't a rare occurrence that they say "yeah, you're right..."

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 04:38 AM)

I know how to watch my tone, and I prefer to keep things straightforward and factual, never to attack the person, always the problem itself.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 04:37 AM)

The good thing for me is ever since a minor hiccup many years ago when I was still non-permanent, I've always managed to along just fine with my various superiors (I've been through over a dozen already). And that's despite my outspokenness, my blunt honesty and my oftentimes harsh criticism.

@  Sabrblade : (18 October 2019 - 11:04 PM)

With visuals presented by the Cybernet Space Cube

@  Dekafox : (18 October 2019 - 04:51 PM)

And don't forget to sign up for a cybersecurity seminar while you're there

@  Dekafox : (18 October 2019 - 04:47 PM)

Well you can always strap on some cyberlimbs and go into cyberspace for a cyberpunk experience

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 October 2019 - 04:28 PM)

You know that "cyber" doesn't mean "cyborg", right?

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 October 2019 - 04:16 PM)

So where's the Cyborgs on CYBERtron?

@  The Doctor Who : (18 October 2019 - 03:47 PM)

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@  Benbot : (18 October 2019 - 10:40 AM)

Why does every damn website want to send me notifications? NO, no one wants your popups! Quit asking!

@  Echowarrior : (18 October 2019 - 09:19 AM)

Amazon in the US has pretty good benefits, though, and even the temp workers had forty hours a week to start with. Even with minimum wage, that's pretty good pay.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2019 - 01:20 AM)

Oh, the turnover rates are high here as well.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 October 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Amazon.com and .ca, on the other hand, can be pretty terrible. I know from your squawkbox posts that you guys have your issues with Amazon over there, although you're lucky to have stronger government regulations and a union there. I gather the warehouse workers in the USA and Canada have it pretty crappy, with very high turnover, close to minimum wage pay, and no unions

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 October 2019 - 09:38 PM)

Amazon.de doesn't really have the same issue. I've ordered from them (and UK, FR, IT and JP) several times, and their packaging is much better

@  Nevermore : (17 October 2019 - 05:22 PM)

I'm not sure how it works on the customer's end. As packers, we sometimes have items that are flagged as "overwrap", which means we absolutely have to put them into a box even if they're already in pretty sturdy manufacturer packaging.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 October 2019 - 03:05 PM)

Yeah, I really do wish amazon had an option to upgrade packaging for an extra buck or something. I hate their bubble mailers

@  Benbot : (17 October 2019 - 07:17 AM)

That's how it works. I just hope my order from Amazon doesn't arrive crushed because they idiotically stuffed it in an envelope.

@  Telly : (16 October 2019 - 10:48 PM)

my walmart is acting true to form. as soon as mirage arrives from amazon, my walmart gets his entire wave in after months of having wave 1 clogging the pegs....

@  Nevermore : (16 October 2019 - 05:18 PM)

I stirred up some trouble at work, complained about the blatant neglect of employee safety. Was asked to take photos and write down the locations so the matter could be properly escalated. Made me feel a little better.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 October 2019 - 02:55 PM)

I got stabbed in the eyelid by a mudwasp, pulled down a tree, and then got ice cream. You know, all told: not a bad day.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 October 2019 - 09:17 AM)

Burrunjor

@  Paladin : (15 October 2019 - 08:04 AM)

your mom.

@  Benbot : (15 October 2019 - 08:02 AM)

What's your favorite Paleolithic megafauna?

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2019 - 10:06 PM)

Together with the Rhino G1 sets, probably the most expensive DVDs I ever bought

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2019 - 10:01 PM)

I've still got the age-old Rhino sets

@  Telly : (14 October 2019 - 09:09 PM)

i didnt find that at any of the ones around here, so i had to settle for seasons 1 and 2 of duckman for $3

@  Steevy Maximus : (14 October 2019 - 07:45 PM)

Heck, I got the season 2/3 set for $3 (?) from a Dollar General discount bin :p

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2019 - 07:29 PM)

The series is pretty cheap on DVD, too, which at least will work internet or no. The complete series set seems to be OOP, but there's a Season 1 set as well as a combined 2 & 3 set.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2019 - 06:10 PM)

Woot! Beast wars!

@  Steevy Maximus : (14 October 2019 - 06:08 PM)

Yay! Tubi now has the first season of Rescue Bots and the full run of Beast Wars FINALLY available.

@  Benbot : (14 October 2019 - 02:16 PM)

Just like me in a game of Civilization. Don't have gunpowder? Time for your cities to burn.

@  Rycochet : (14 October 2019 - 01:51 PM)

He dubbed the peoples that saw him as bad news cannibals and savages before enslaving and wiping them out too.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2019 - 01:40 PM)

And if they had been unfriendly: he would have simply slaughtered them with diseases they couldn't fight, and technology they couldn't match until they as a people did not exist. There's something about european backgrounds that drive us to exploit.

@  Rycochet : (14 October 2019 - 11:02 AM)

He described the peoples he encountered as some of the most friendly and giving in the world, so naturally, he ate all their food, enslaved them and put them to work looking for gold that did not exist, until they as a people did not exist.

@  Paladin : (14 October 2019 - 09:57 AM)

he landed by coincidence in front of long-term residents.

@  Sabrblade : (14 October 2019 - 09:55 AM)

He said the world was round-o! (He said the world was round-o!) He said it could be found-o! (He said it could be found-o!) That hypothetical, calculated, son-of-a-gun, Columbo! (That hypothetical, calculated, son-of-a-gun, Columbo!)

@  Benbot : (14 October 2019 - 09:22 AM)

In the year 1492, Columbus gave us the day off skoo

@  Noideaforaname : (14 October 2019 - 08:59 AM)

How often do people actually celebrate Columbus or the Pilgrims? Usually it just feels like celebrating the first break in the school year and a nice dinner with the family.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2019 - 08:29 AM)

You've got like two more weeks until the american thanksgiving. Canadian thanksgiving is literally a harvest festival.

@  CVReynolds : (14 October 2019 - 08:09 AM)

Hey, everyone. Come together to enjoy this national holiday made to celebrate a mass-murderer who never set foot in the USA. What fun!


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Fourth Kelvin Star Trek film by S.J. Clarkson - Pine and Hemsworth no longer on board?


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#1 SHIELD Agent 47

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 12:30 PM

Evidently, Paramount's negotiations with Chris Pine and Chris Hemsworth are breaking down over financials.

 

https://www.hollywoo...ks-fall-1133802

 

Clarification for anyone confused about "Star Trek 4": as I understand the state of post-Beyond theatrical Trek, Quentin Tarantino's upcoming Trek film was announced first, in December 2017, but subsequently, in April 2018, S.J. Clarkson was announced to be directing a separate Trek film, and that Clarkson's film would enter production and presumably see release before Tarantino's.

 

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Tarantino Star Trek thread here.


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 02:44 PM

A pity, but I would be up for a return to the Primeverse. Give me a movie about the Titan! 


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 04:07 PM

I think the Kelvin universe was a great experiment, and gave us the 'beyond' film which I really enjoyed. But if nothing else we should be really thankful it gave Star Trek a shot up the arm again and re-ignited new series for us to happen.


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 08:58 PM

It's disappointing, but both Hemsworth and Pine are bigger stars now then they were in '09, and it's irrational to expect them to have enough love of the Trek brand to take a pay hit and thus devalue themselves going forward.

 

I say at least get John Cho aboard to do a Kelvinverse Captain Sulu film.



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Posted 11 August 2018 - 11:20 PM

My theory: James Cameron has been playing an elaborate 4D chess game to ensure that Zoe Saldana will have no choice but to make Avatar sequels for the rest of her life.



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Posted 11 August 2018 - 11:26 PM

The horror... I mean they may only get paid a few times what an ordinary person works for 15-20 years to earn instead of 10-20x.  :rolleyes

 

Don't get me wrong; both seem like nice enough guys... especially Hemsworth. But really, celebrity salary disputes and worries over devaluing themselves doesn't make the list of things I'll ever give two shits about, to be completely honest.


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 06:13 AM

Hemsworth?  Time travel?



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 09:59 AM

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 04:57 PM

The horror... I mean they may only get paid a few times what an ordinary person works for 15-20 years to earn instead of 10-20x.  :rolleyes

 

Don't get me wrong; both seem like nice enough guys... especially Hemsworth. But really, celebrity salary disputes and worries over devaluing themselves doesn't make the list of things I'll ever give two shits about, to be completely honest.

 

I don't disagree in the slightest, but that's the world in which they live. And in that world, Trek is a shlocky property that has a rabid fanbase that has had multiple documentaries devoted to it in which former cast members showcase some of the strangest things they've ever been given.

 

I'm enough of a realist to comprehend in today's social media world, that's just asking for trouble.



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 06:01 PM

I mean, they'll either do the film or they won't. No harm either way... three films is a good run for any series, and oftentimes 3 seems to be just enough before it all turns to crap.

 

Personally, if I had either of their net worths and was a professional actor, I'd only be doing roles because I enjoyed them and the characters were fun to play. Not for the paycheque. I don't think they need to worry about the Abramsverse Trek films ruining their careers, though; that isn't the old nerdy Trek. Plus Chris Hemsworth's status has been solidified by the MCU forevermore.



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 06:44 PM

Yeah sorry Paramount.  Pine and Helmsworth basically said goodbye to you long ago.

 

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 07:02 PM

 

Personally, if I had either of their net worths and was a professional actor, I'd only be doing roles because I enjoyed them and the characters were fun to play. Not for the paycheque.

 

Again, I agree. But also again, there's no indication either of them have much love for the Trek brand.

 

It's a dang shame, because I really did love Pine's Kirk.



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 07:06 PM

Well, Hemsworth was in Trek for all of 5 minutes. I'm kind of shocked he was; I had to go back and check. Personally, I see no reason why he'd want to return, either.

 

As far as Pine goes, I liked his Kirk (not as much as I liked Urban's McCoy), but if he didn't enjoy the role or doesn't feel as if coming back and working with that cast again would be enjoyable enough for it to be worth taking a "lesser" salary, that's his call. If he doesn't return, though, I don't think they should try to continue without him.



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Posted 13 August 2018 - 12:30 AM

They could always borrow from the Prime universe and have a new actor step in as Decker to take over the Enterprise, like what was supposed to happen in what became the first movie.



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Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:31 AM

Stick a fork in the Kelvinverse already. It's run its course.

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 09:22 AM

I agree that Urban as McCoy was amazing and Quinto did a great job as Spock, so I will definitely miss them as the characters. The others, not so much.

 

 

They could always borrow from the Prime universe and have a new actor step in as Decker to take over the Enterprise, like what was supposed to happen in what became the first movie.

 

That would be a neat idea, bu who would be a good actor for the role? 


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 09:49 AM

It's only frustrating because if these movies end, what happens to this continuity? It sits here and gets ignored? They should try to at least make some kind of fourth film to do something cool and wrap it up.
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Posted 13 August 2018 - 12:00 PM

It's only frustrating because if these movies end, what happens to this continuity? It sits here and gets ignored? They should try to at least make some kind of fourth film to do something cool and wrap it up.


This one apparently does plan to have time travel and Kirk's father, so maybe the Enterprise goes back in time, stops the Narada early, and erases their own splinter timeline.

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 12:05 PM

It's only frustrating because if these movies end, what happens to this continuity? It sits here and gets ignored? They should try to at least make some kind of fourth film to do something cool and wrap it up.

 

I know *I'm* happy to sit here and ignore the Kelvinverse.

 

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 12:26 PM

I mean I'm looking forward to Quentin's take because it'll be something we haven't gotten before.
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