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@  Paladin : (23 May 2019 - 06:29 AM)

will they next evolve into Inhumanoids?

@  Ashley : (23 May 2019 - 02:42 AM)

the original slivers were spikey monsters. then the evolved into humanoids. now they're back to spikey bug monsters.

@  MEDdMI : (22 May 2019 - 10:42 PM)

Wait. Slivers were bishies???

@  unluckiness : (22 May 2019 - 10:40 PM)

They haven't necessarily looped yet. It's possible they're stuck in "yaoi anatomy"

@  Ashley : (22 May 2019 - 10:35 PM)

I think Slivers in MTG have crossed the bishonen line and looped back around to monstrous

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2019 - 09:48 PM)

Maxi, provigo, loblaws.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 May 2019 - 09:42 PM)

Which store brand is it?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2019 - 05:52 PM)

I need to buy more "no name" foods. This pizza is freaking awesome.

@  Bass X0 : (20 May 2019 - 11:16 AM)

SEND THE BOOKS!!

@  Cybersnark : (20 May 2019 - 08:52 AM)

So, now that Game of Thrones is over, when can we get back to The Dragon Prince?

@  unluckiness : (20 May 2019 - 12:19 AM)

Like, half of them nowadays are montages of tweet screencaps from the writer's inbox

@  unluckiness : (20 May 2019 - 12:18 AM)

lol you expected integrity from internet news

@  fourteenwings : (19 May 2019 - 11:33 PM)

I'm mostly confused how news sites went from "Analysing all the amazingness of Game of Thrones" to "Fans sure don't like this season!", like... way to prioritize clicks over a solid editorial opinion

@  fourteenwings : (19 May 2019 - 11:30 PM)

[and there's a recurring setting of a "derelict industrial site"] is this like the Toei Quarry?

@  MEDdMI : (19 May 2019 - 11:17 PM)

@Foffy and then that giant lasagna just tipped over and killed everyone, to be later known as the infamous Bad Monday event.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 May 2019 - 10:59 PM)

Ahahaha!!! Go read the reactions for yourself. To say anything more here risks spoiling the finale for subscribing Allsparkers, the quality of this season notwithstanding.

@  Foffy : (19 May 2019 - 10:59 PM)

pretty wild how heathcliff was in the game of thrones finale, i was not expecting that crossover

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2019 - 10:48 PM)

were they still super pissed?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 May 2019 - 10:48 PM)

Well, as someone who is not into Game of Thrones, it sure was entertaining to open up social media this evening to unexpectedly see headlines about fan reactions to the finale. Lmao.

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:12 PM)

But it's also a SUPER-well known location in my region, so these extensive exterior shots without any post production alterations completely ruin the illusion for me.

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:11 PM)

I mean, I get why they did it: It's an existing location that fits the purpose, it's open for the public, and they had to shoot some scenes in my home state anyway to due a subsidizing deal.

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Needless to say, it's not in Berlin, and even what's seen onscreen is waaaaay too modern for something that's supposed to exist in 1929 (even moreso as a derelict site in 1929). The structures seen haven't even been built until the 1960s!

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:07 PM)

I'm currently in the process of watching season 2 of Babylon Berlin, and there's a recurring setting of a "derelict industrial site" or whatever it's supposed to be on the show, and I easily recognize it as a place only a few minutes from where I live (it's actually a former ironworks site that's been turned into a public park).

@  Xellos : (19 May 2019 - 05:52 PM)

Ever since I went to Japan last year, I have friend who dread watching anime with me due to that...

@  Xellos : (19 May 2019 - 05:51 PM)

Not hugely, but I am the type to notice places once I have been there and say "Hey, I've been there!"

@  wonko the sane? : (19 May 2019 - 05:50 PM)

Half of new york city (on tape.) is actually montreal.

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2019 - 05:50 PM)

I watched Death Wish 5 last night and clearly recognized Toronto streets; didn't pull me out of Bronson's 1-man war on drugs or fashion or whatever it was that pissed him off that time

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2019 - 05:49 PM)

it's nice to finally be thought of as exotic by somebody! lol

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 05:48 PM)

In an "I cannot possibly make my brain ignore the location I'm familiar with and pretend it's whatever the story claims it is" way?

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 05:42 PM)

Question for those of you living in exotic locations such as the US or the UK: If you watch a movie or a TV show that features a real-life location as a stand-in for someplace else, and you recognize the real-life location due to having been there in person, does that pull you out of the story?

@  Xellos : (19 May 2019 - 05:15 PM)

Maybe you should have installed macOS in your house instead.

@  Noideaforaname : (19 May 2019 - 04:40 PM)

Nothing like coming home after a long day to find a bird in the house. And then once you sit down for a well-earned rest after leading the bird back outside, you find it had a friend. A friend who *really* doesn't understand how windows work...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 May 2019 - 01:26 PM)

Bingo. The big polls don't tell people what's actually happening because that doesn't sell.

@  fourteenwings : (19 May 2019 - 10:59 AM)

IIRC there are good polls but data is easily manipulated so they give people what they want to hear

@  wonko the sane? : (19 May 2019 - 10:58 AM)

The only way to get people interested in politics is to make into reality TV. So they lie to do it.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 May 2019 - 01:38 AM)

Yeah, polling these days is garbage.

@  Sean Whitmore : (18 May 2019 - 11:53 PM)

Well, he was an honest man. He wasn’t gonna lie to a 5-year-old.

@  Paladin : (18 May 2019 - 08:34 PM)

Grandfather once said to me, "I'm going upstairs and hug your grandma."

@  Sabrblade : (18 May 2019 - 07:08 PM)

Mama always said that you can tell a lot 'bout a person from 'is shoes...

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 May 2019 - 03:54 PM)

Life is like a box of chocolates. Stay out of the sun or melt into a pile of gross slop.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 May 2019 - 10:26 AM)

Greasy, disappointing and still managing to be over priced?

@  Lancer : (18 May 2019 - 10:22 AM)

... Yes, it is!

@  Noideaforaname : (18 May 2019 - 09:48 AM)

Life's a fillet of fish!

@  unluckiness : (18 May 2019 - 08:53 AM)

ow the edge

@  Paladin : (18 May 2019 - 07:03 AM)

a reminder that life is an unrepentant hellscape where everyone & everything you know will eventually betray you.

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 06:45 AM)

You know, this election is what has finally broken me of any confidence at any point of pre-polling data. I mean, it's always been sketchy, but this is just... aaaargh!

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 06:08 AM)

I was going to make an Auspol election thread in P&R, but the outcome so far has made me feel physically ill.

@  Gamma V : (18 May 2019 - 03:28 AM)

Haven't been here in a long time.

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 03:16 AM)

I have heard that, it's rather disappointing. Ah, maybe they'll just leech each others stores of "awful racist vote" and not go anywhere.

@  Trpodeca : (17 May 2019 - 11:09 PM)

I voted. Boy there are a worrying amount of parties which sound like fascists.


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 12:30 PM

Evidently, Paramount's negotiations with Chris Pine and Chris Hemsworth are breaking down over financials.

 

https://www.hollywoo...ks-fall-1133802

 

Clarification for anyone confused about "Star Trek 4": as I understand the state of post-Beyond theatrical Trek, Quentin Tarantino's upcoming Trek film was announced first, in December 2017, but subsequently, in April 2018, S.J. Clarkson was announced to be directing a separate Trek film, and that Clarkson's film would enter production and presumably see release before Tarantino's.

 

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 02:44 PM

A pity, but I would be up for a return to the Primeverse. Give me a movie about the Titan! 


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 04:07 PM

I think the Kelvin universe was a great experiment, and gave us the 'beyond' film which I really enjoyed. But if nothing else we should be really thankful it gave Star Trek a shot up the arm again and re-ignited new series for us to happen.


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 08:58 PM

It's disappointing, but both Hemsworth and Pine are bigger stars now then they were in '09, and it's irrational to expect them to have enough love of the Trek brand to take a pay hit and thus devalue themselves going forward.

 

I say at least get John Cho aboard to do a Kelvinverse Captain Sulu film.


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 11:20 PM

My theory: James Cameron has been playing an elaborate 4D chess game to ensure that Zoe Saldana will have no choice but to make Avatar sequels for the rest of her life.



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Posted 11 August 2018 - 11:26 PM

The horror... I mean they may only get paid a few times what an ordinary person works for 15-20 years to earn instead of 10-20x.  :rolleyes

 

Don't get me wrong; both seem like nice enough guys... especially Hemsworth. But really, celebrity salary disputes and worries over devaluing themselves doesn't make the list of things I'll ever give two shits about, to be completely honest.


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 06:13 AM

Hemsworth?  Time travel?



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 09:59 AM

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 04:57 PM

The horror... I mean they may only get paid a few times what an ordinary person works for 15-20 years to earn instead of 10-20x.  :rolleyes

 

Don't get me wrong; both seem like nice enough guys... especially Hemsworth. But really, celebrity salary disputes and worries over devaluing themselves doesn't make the list of things I'll ever give two shits about, to be completely honest.

 

I don't disagree in the slightest, but that's the world in which they live. And in that world, Trek is a shlocky property that has a rabid fanbase that has had multiple documentaries devoted to it in which former cast members showcase some of the strangest things they've ever been given.

 

I'm enough of a realist to comprehend in today's social media world, that's just asking for trouble.


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 06:01 PM

I mean, they'll either do the film or they won't. No harm either way... three films is a good run for any series, and oftentimes 3 seems to be just enough before it all turns to crap.

 

Personally, if I had either of their net worths and was a professional actor, I'd only be doing roles because I enjoyed them and the characters were fun to play. Not for the paycheque. I don't think they need to worry about the Abramsverse Trek films ruining their careers, though; that isn't the old nerdy Trek. Plus Chris Hemsworth's status has been solidified by the MCU forevermore.



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 06:44 PM

Yeah sorry Paramount.  Pine and Helmsworth basically said goodbye to you long ago.

 

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 07:02 PM

 

Personally, if I had either of their net worths and was a professional actor, I'd only be doing roles because I enjoyed them and the characters were fun to play. Not for the paycheque.

 

Again, I agree. But also again, there's no indication either of them have much love for the Trek brand.

 

It's a dang shame, because I really did love Pine's Kirk.


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 07:06 PM

Well, Hemsworth was in Trek for all of 5 minutes. I'm kind of shocked he was; I had to go back and check. Personally, I see no reason why he'd want to return, either.

 

As far as Pine goes, I liked his Kirk (not as much as I liked Urban's McCoy), but if he didn't enjoy the role or doesn't feel as if coming back and working with that cast again would be enjoyable enough for it to be worth taking a "lesser" salary, that's his call. If he doesn't return, though, I don't think they should try to continue without him.



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Posted 13 August 2018 - 12:30 AM

They could always borrow from the Prime universe and have a new actor step in as Decker to take over the Enterprise, like what was supposed to happen in what became the first movie.



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Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:31 AM

Stick a fork in the Kelvinverse already. It's run its course.

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 09:22 AM

I agree that Urban as McCoy was amazing and Quinto did a great job as Spock, so I will definitely miss them as the characters. The others, not so much.

 

 

They could always borrow from the Prime universe and have a new actor step in as Decker to take over the Enterprise, like what was supposed to happen in what became the first movie.

 

That would be a neat idea, bu who would be a good actor for the role? 


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 09:49 AM

It's only frustrating because if these movies end, what happens to this continuity? It sits here and gets ignored? They should try to at least make some kind of fourth film to do something cool and wrap it up.
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Posted 13 August 2018 - 12:00 PM

It's only frustrating because if these movies end, what happens to this continuity? It sits here and gets ignored? They should try to at least make some kind of fourth film to do something cool and wrap it up.


This one apparently does plan to have time travel and Kirk's father, so maybe the Enterprise goes back in time, stops the Narada early, and erases their own splinter timeline.

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 12:05 PM

It's only frustrating because if these movies end, what happens to this continuity? It sits here and gets ignored? They should try to at least make some kind of fourth film to do something cool and wrap it up.

 

I know *I'm* happy to sit here and ignore the Kelvinverse.

 

(ESPECIALLY if they're letting Tarantino near it).



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Posted 13 August 2018 - 12:26 PM

I mean I'm looking forward to Quentin's take because it'll be something we haven't gotten before.
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