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@  unluckiness : (25 November 2020 - 07:20 PM)

Not even head, just a faceeven

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 November 2020 - 12:58 PM)

Just stick a Megatron head on Optimal Optimus.

@  Sabrblade : (25 November 2020 - 12:46 PM)

There was also an evil-looking black and gray redeco of the RobotMasters toy

@  Arazyr : (25 November 2020 - 11:54 AM)

That's KIND-OF what I consider the Throne of the Primes Primal to be...

@  wonko the sane? : (25 November 2020 - 11:16 AM)

I would buy the hell out a nemesis primal...

@  Bass X0 : (25 November 2020 - 11:15 AM)

I'm surprised there's not been a Nemesis Primal given all the Nemesis Primes.

@  unluckiness : (23 November 2020 - 03:17 AM)

The real Drifts were the Windblades we made along the way

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 November 2020 - 02:25 AM)

Drift-kun 2 Electric Boobylube

@  ▲ndrusi : (22 November 2020 - 11:36 PM)

I'm pretty sure Drift 2 was Empire of Stone.

@  Sabrblade : (22 November 2020 - 10:06 PM)

I thought people said Prime Wheeljack was Drift 2.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 November 2020 - 03:51 PM)

Windblade was Drift.2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 November 2020 - 02:44 PM)

Drift with boobs.

@  Rycochet : (22 November 2020 - 11:50 AM)

I can't imagine a live action movie version of Windblade being all that different from Drift. Not my thing, but not the worst thing I've ever seen.

@  Bass X0 : (22 November 2020 - 09:54 AM)

The thought of Movie aesthetic Windblade makes me feel sick.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 November 2020 - 08:47 AM)

Though, the fact that Japanese people would pay for Windblade toys in the $30-40 range doesn't mean they'd pay however much MPs are going for now.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 November 2020 - 08:44 AM)

Back when I made a habit of checking Mandarake for pre-owned TFs, Windblade's toys went for surprisingly high prices. By which I mean not lower than the original price.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 November 2020 - 08:15 AM)

If she's in the next movie you might get her.

@  unluckiness : (22 November 2020 - 07:58 AM)

Japan didn't get most of the IDW comics and are the target market for MP. They basically know windblade from a few crappy pack-in comics and a show that wasn't particularly popular there. Unless they start cranking out Cyberverse MPs, it's not very likely.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 November 2020 - 04:24 AM)

Again, depends if she's popular enough in Japan to warrant it. Our view of which characters are popular is not the same as Takara's.

@  Bass X0 : (22 November 2020 - 01:53 AM)

So characters like Windblade then.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 November 2020 - 07:19 PM)

They're complicated and expensive to design. By necessity, they're gonna be restricted to well-known characters who are more likely to sell.

@  Bass X0 : (21 November 2020 - 07:05 PM)

I don’t think Masterpiece toys should be restricted to only show characters.

@  Rycochet : (21 November 2020 - 03:09 PM)

If she wasn't in the Sunbow cartoon, Live Action movie or Beast Wars and can't be repainted from someone else, she's not getting an MP.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 November 2020 - 12:44 PM)

They'll make their money back if they include the metal thong...

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 November 2020 - 12:29 PM)

Is she popular enough in Japan that Takara would even try?

@  Paladin : (21 November 2020 - 11:23 AM)

depends. will that one also have a giant metal thong?

@  Bass X0 : (21 November 2020 - 11:10 AM)

Should there be a Masterpiece Windblade?

@  -LittleAutob... : (20 November 2020 - 12:46 PM)

EIGHT WORDS! THATS A RECORD! XD

@  wonko the sane? : (20 November 2020 - 09:08 AM)

So you were hired by a middle easterner! AHA!

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 November 2020 - 11:45 PM)

that's eight words

@  Bass X0 : (19 November 2020 - 03:56 PM)

"I only want to hear one word from you... The name of the guy who hired ya!"

@  Maximus Ambus : (19 November 2020 - 12:41 PM)

It's great how they reference G1 concepts like this one features the harmony from the episode Carnage in C Minor and and Slugslingers featured anti electrons from Grimlocks New Brain.

@  Steevy Maximus : (18 November 2020 - 10:01 PM)

Or at least those little story blurbs like Beast Hunters had. Especially for stuff like Selects which tend to exist in their own little side world

@  Maximus Ambus : (17 November 2020 - 04:03 PM)

I got me Legends Soundwave, Be cool if the next Generations toyline had a mini comic with the instructions.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 November 2020 - 03:42 AM)

Aw no unusual activity on my Paypal Ebay, Amazon and Netflix account in one day! All I have to do it verify on those E-Mails and I'm all set..... wait a mo, I'm not on Netflix!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 November 2020 - 11:56 PM)

I swear though.. The idea of "Catch up" is stupid.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2020 - 11:25 PM)

That's irritating, but it sounds par for the course with new hardware release. Within a year, there'll probably be some good stuff out there that does it all.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 November 2020 - 11:23 PM)

4K/HDR switches are.. iffy.. Because most of them can't do 4K and HDR at the same time.. Or can't do 120hz... and all sorts of things the new TVs have built in, and the new consoles use...

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2020 - 11:18 PM)

Maybe now that the PS5's made the whole 4K thing a little more mainstream, the hardware will start becoming more common. I know that's one of the hopes the physical media community has for the 100GB discs the PS5 is going to be using. Prior to this, they were very expensive tor replicate compared to a regular blu-ray and not used very often

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2020 - 11:17 PM)

Up to now, there really haven't been a whole lot of 4K disc players to choose from... Samsung stopped making them altogether when they couldn't compete with the others, so your main choices are a few models of Panasonic or Sony

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2020 - 11:14 PM)

Is there no such thing as a 4K/HDR switch yet?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 November 2020 - 10:10 PM)

Which is fine.. But that still doesn't explain why they arn't putting out up to date HDMI switch boxes to get.. more money.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2020 - 09:59 PM)

My only TV with a respectable number of ports is my OLED 4K/3D, which has 4 HDMI, 2 USB 2.0s, 1 USB 3.0 and some weird proprietary thing that acts as both component and composite, depending on what you need. But it retailed for $10k when it first came out (I bought it 14 months later for less than half that). THey're going to get as many corners on less expensive sets as they can, which usually means only providing 2 HDMIs.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2020 - 09:55 PM)

I mean, there are some decent ones for under a grand. But yeah, I imagine that's what they're thinking. Most people I know, unless they're film or A/V aficionados, all they've got hooked up to their TV is a digital cable receiver and perhaps a game console and dated DVD player

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 November 2020 - 09:45 PM)

TM2-Megatron... If that is their assumptions.. That is one of the stupidest way to think.. Especially since Multichannel receivers way to fricken expensive for that. 3000 is way to expensive.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2020 - 09:11 PM)

They probably assume the people who actually need a lot of ports are the type of consumers who'd have a decently high-end Multichannel receiver. Whereas those people who don't need many connections probably don't even have a blu-ray player or anything. Maybe just a gaming console for the kids and an old DVD player.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2020 - 04:04 PM)

I saw that movie. I don't want jim carrey in my head.

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 November 2020 - 03:43 PM)

Soon beam TV programs into brains with a neural transciever anyway.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2020 - 03:28 PM)

I'm surprised they keep reducing the number of ports on TV's.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 November 2020 - 02:52 PM)

Ahh.. No.. I mean an HDMI 2.1 switcher box to give you more imputs on a TV. :D Those should have been released in preparation of the XSX and PS5 considering their touting 2.1 features. :D


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 10:56 AM

 

 

Up to this point, I think all characters have appeared in conjunction with video games before any other media. There is no Captain N video game.

 

I have to agree with D Buster on Captain N.  He never appeared in a video game, which is a must for a character to appear in Smash Bros.

 

Well I get what you are saying, but technically. R.O.B. isn't from a game. He's an accessory.

 

I know R.O.B. is a bit different situation/story then Captain N, but I'm still hopeful.

 

Now, to be fair I do doubt he'll be included, but that doesn't change the fact I really want him in.


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 11:36 AM

 

 

 

Up to this point, I think all characters have appeared in conjunction with video games before any other media. There is no Captain N video game.

 

I have to agree with D Buster on Captain N.  He never appeared in a video game, which is a must for a character to appear in Smash Bros.

 

Well I get what you are saying, but technically. R.O.B. isn't from a game. He's an accessory.

 

I know R.O.B. is a bit different situation/story then Captain N, but I'm still hopeful.

 

Now, to be fair I do doubt he'll be included, but that doesn't change the fact I really want him in.

 

 

I didn't say that a character had to be in a game. I said "appeared in conjunction with a game". That applies to R.O.B., who first appeared in conjunction with Gyromite and Stack Up, and is featured on the box art for both games.


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 12:48 PM

The Castlevania trailer didn't hit me with as much of an OMG moment as the Mega Man trailer did, but the excitement is still really sticking with me. I'm really looking forward to trying out the Belmonts. I love that they're bringing the bosses in as stage hazards, with particular focus on including all the bosses from the original game. And I can't wait to hear all the music arrangements. 34 songs for a single fighter (+ echo) and stage is kinda crazy, but it's a great kind of crazy. I was planning on not buying any more games before Christmas to save some money, but I'm really starting to doubt I can hold out even just those couple extra weeks.

 

So now that Castlevania's out of the way, what other franchises would make sense as the next big one to include? So far, we have Snake, Sonic, Mega Man, Pac-Man, Ryu, Cloud, Bayonetta, and Simon/Richter. Who's left to make a big splash? Master Chief? Kratos? Someone from Assassin's Creed?

 

It would never happen, but the character that next comes to mind that I'd love to see would be BoF Ryu. The Altered Beast centurion could be neat too.



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Posted 09 August 2018 - 01:07 PM

I didn't say that a character had to be in a game. I said "appeared in conjunction with a game". That applies to R.O.B., who first appeared in conjunction with Gyromite and Stack Up, and is featured on the box art for both games.

 

Well technically Captain N appeared in conjunction with many games. Many were featured in his show.

 

R.O.B. still wasn't IN a game. He was just used to play a couple, and I wouldn't think Captain N would be that strange compared to R.O.B.

 

Yes because Captain N was only in a cartoon, the chances of him being in the game are pretty slim, but I'm optimistic and saying it's not impossible.

 

Still highly unlikely sadly.

 

(Though if you have to have a game to get in, ironically Nester has a bigger chance as he does have a game to his name.)


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 02:03 PM

I'd honestly say at this point what makes Captain N the most unlikely is that it's from a piece of ancillary media that Japan never even got in the first place.

But then, we're in a timeline where people are seriously discussing the viability of Kevin Keene in Smash, and that fact utterly delights me.

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 02:25 PM

But then, we're in a timeline where people are seriously discussing the viability of Kevin Keene in Smash, and that fact utterly delights me.

 

So, let's talk about it. You'd assume that the Zapper is going to be his main weapon, and then his specials would be the different Power Pad abilities from his belt buckle, right? I remember him calling up a bat before and some sort of glowing power ball.


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Yep.

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 03:48 PM

 

 

 

Up to this point, I think all characters have appeared in conjunction with video games before any other media. There is no Captain N video game.

 

I have to agree with D Buster on Captain N.  He never appeared in a video game, which is a must for a character to appear in Smash Bros.

 

Well I get what you are saying, but technically. R.O.B. isn't from a game. He's an accessory.


 

 

So that means we can get Gameboy in the lineup?


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 05:37 PM

Assist trophy.

Well thats assuming Kevin is fully playable. I'd be perfectly happy with him being an Assist amd jist fprgetting Gameboy (the character)

But of course we'd need King Hippo and Eggplant Wizard to show up

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 10:16 PM

I wonder if the other guest companies will get additional fighters and echoes to be equal to konamis representation. Ken and Shadow are easy enough tweaks to existing characters. Then there are the rumors of Tekken characters...

If course, Capcom had two this generation vs Sega and Namcos one so IDK.

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 10:35 PM

I have a feeling that several assist trophies will become playable characters via DLC, but this won't be revealed until well after launch.

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 10:58 PM

I have a feeling that several assist trophies will become playable characters via DLC, but this won't be revealed until well after launch.

 

Fingers crossed for Shovel Knight, then. x ]


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 11:14 PM

I'm looking forward to that, as well.as characters like Bomberman and Waluigi as DLC.

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 11:20 PM

Then there are the rumors of Tekken characters...

 

On the one hand, characters from other fighting games bore the hell out of me. We already know their fighting style and we can play as them in their own games whenever we want. I want to see how Paperboy or the chef from BurgerTime fights.

 

On the other hand, I also kind of feel like having Street Fighter represented means there should be a Mortal Kombat character too.


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:14 AM

OK, I just had an idea for what I'd really like to see. Forget Trevor as a second echo of Simon. What I'd love to see would be a bunch of the Belmonts as alternate costumes for Simon and Richter, just like how the Koopalings are alternate costumes for Bowser Jr. Maybe something like Christopher, Trevor, and Julius from Simon, along with Sonia, Juste, and Leon from Richter. Probably more modeling work than they're willing to put in, but I would love to see that happen.



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Posted 10 August 2018 - 02:33 AM

Still cant believe the trailer flubbed Richters line.

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 08:42 AM

Well thats assuming Kevin is fully playable. I'd be perfectly happy with him being an Assist amd jist fprgetting Gameboy (the character)

 

I was just thinking that this morning. I think the reason why Shovel Knight is only an assist is because the games never really took off in Japan, and Caption N never broadcast there. If characters like Zero are only going to be assists then the best chance we'd have of even MAYBE seeing Kevin would be as an Assist Trophy, and like you, I'd be more than happy with that.


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Yep.

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 08:52 AM

Random never happen idea: Kevin uses the Zapper as his main weapon, yes? Echo Fighter of Fox or Falco... It's not a perfect fit, but it'd mostly work for the basics...


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 03:35 PM

Still think Nester has a chance, after all, he DID get a game:

https://en.wikipedia...s_Funky_Bowling

 

Hell, maybe take down multiple homages at once?  IF I were doing this, I'd design Nester as the ultimate 90s "cool guy" with a backwards cap and jacket.  Give him the Powerglive and zapper and build a move set around that.  And his alternate decos?  Variations on Nintendo marketing slogans like "Play it Loud", "Playing with Power", "Get N or Get Out" and the final alternate deco would be the Captain N homage.

 

Maybe not what fans really want, but probably the most practical all things considered.



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Posted 10 August 2018 - 11:33 PM

Nester might have a game, but I honestly lump in with Kevin for the reason that said games never got to Japan, and if the games don't get to Japan they might as well not exist to Smash Bros.  Duck Hunt represents the Light Gun, but that's limited to Duck Hunt, Hogan's Alley, and Wild Gunman.  But games like To The Earth or Gumshoe don't even get a trophy.  Heck, Barker Bob's Trick Shooting is the only other game the Duck Hunt dog is besides VS Duck Hunt and that gets nothing to its credit either!

 

Likewise, look at Kid Icarus Uprising: the game constantly emphasizes Pit's last adventure was 25 years ago-- completely ignoring the US exclusive Gameboy title "Of Myths and Monsters".  

 

So Nester, whose only real "appearance" in anything was having his design used as Lark in Pilotwings 64... well... 



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Posted 11 August 2018 - 12:49 PM

Nester might have a game, but I honestly lump in with Kevin for the reason that said games never got to Japan, and if the games don't get to Japan they might as well not exist to Smash Bros.  Duck Hunt represents the Light Gun, but that's limited to Duck Hunt, Hogan's Alley, and Wild Gunman.  But games like To The Earth or Gumshoe don't even get a trophy.  Heck, Barker Bob's Trick Shooting is the only other game the Duck Hunt dog is besides VS Duck Hunt and that gets nothing to its credit either!

 

Likewise, look at Kid Icarus Uprising: the game constantly emphasizes Pit's last adventure was 25 years ago-- completely ignoring the US exclusive Gameboy title "Of Myths and Monsters".  

 

So Nester, whose only real "appearance" in anything was having his design used as Lark in Pilotwings 64... well... 

 

Both supporting and contradicting your point, because life is funny like that:

 

Nintendo is a Japanese company, and even if it wasn't, the Japanese market is incredibly important when it comes to video games (among other things).  It is perfectly reasonable for perceived popular opinion from Japan to influence Nintendo's decisions.  Yet, I was under the impression that Ridley would never be a playable character and Shovel Knight would never show up at all in Smash Bros. because neither is popular enough in Japan.  So sometimes, Nintendo goes against what "Japan" seems to want.

 

That something never released in Japan explains a character's lack of popularity, but when we're dealing with games that are so old, I don't think it becomes a credible reason alone for exclusion.  Nester's Funky Bowling never released in Japan, they didn't get Nintendo Power (of if they did, it wasn't like the North American version) so they don't know Nester and if they know Howard, it is because he's basically the alter ego of Howard Phillips (former face of Nintendo of America).  If for some reason, one or both of these characters suddenly became hugely popular in Japan, the fact that Howard never appeared in a game and that Nester never appeared in a Japanese game (and appeared in only an obscure one elsewhere) would not keep either character from appearing in Smash Bros.  Other factors could; I don't know who owns the rights to either Howard or Nester.  Oh, and I know no one brought up Howard, but the two were best as a duo.  Well, maybe Nester with his son would also work.

 

Anyway, the main thing I'm hoping for now is that we see more crossover between Assist Trophies, Boss Characters, Characters, and Stage Enemies (Hazards).  Right now, a character appearing as one means it won't appear as another except for the recently revealed Rathalos and (IIRC) some Pokémon.  As soon as we have more crossover between any and all of these, seeing a character appear as one stops being so bittersweet.  Becoming an Assist Trophy, Boss Character, or Stage Enemy becomes a potential step towards becoming a playable Character.  The first step is the easiest; not getting an existing Assist Trophy, Boss Character, or Stage Enemy as a playable character, but having some playable characters also show up as one or multiple of those three.  After all, the needed assets are already in the game at this point.


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