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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2018 - 08:40 PM)

I saw him on The Trek BBS some months before he hit the Allspark.

@  Nevermore : (19 August 2018 - 05:47 PM)

He was considered an annoying pest even back then.

@  Nevermore : (19 August 2018 - 05:47 PM)

I finally managed to dig up some of Jason Irelan's earliest posts, at the Alvaro Comicboards Transformers forum. Dating back to 2003.

@  Nevermore : (19 August 2018 - 12:43 PM)

The best thing is that repeatedly buying the same cabinet means an increasing routine in assembling the things.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 August 2018 - 10:39 AM)

Welp, beats me. I got four shelves.

@  Nevermore : (19 August 2018 - 08:38 AM)

Finally I can showcase my collection in an appropriate manner.

@  Nevermore : (19 August 2018 - 08:38 AM)

I bought thirteen display cabinets for my new apartment from Ikea.

@  RichardT1977 : (19 August 2018 - 12:42 AM)

*groan*...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (18 August 2018 - 11:43 PM)

Well don't hang up on us, tel us abaud it!

@  Cybersnark : (18 August 2018 - 04:25 PM)

I'm back with a new modem!

@  wonko the sane? : (18 August 2018 - 03:58 PM)

And I just managed to clean out my bed drawers, so I can move on to the next step when I'm ready.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 August 2018 - 03:45 PM)

I doubt I set any records, but now my cat can't jump on my PC and hit the power button or reset button, so... improvement.

@  RichardT1977 : (18 August 2018 - 02:28 PM)

Back in St. Olaf they used to have IKEA building contests...

@  Paladin : (18 August 2018 - 11:44 AM)

enjoy yur affordable Svedish crap.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 August 2018 - 11:33 AM)

Ikea is dangerous. I bought a new desk and a bed frame...

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 August 2018 - 11:19 AM)

Var.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 06:19 AM)

Oh, and there's also a few percent extra wage for every overtime hour on top of that.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 06:19 AM)

Some people just work an hour extra every day and then request a day off when they have collected enough hours.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 06:18 AM)

Come in on your day off? Work an hour extra on a normal working day? Counts. What you do with your overtime doesn't matter just as long as you worked overtime in the first place.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 06:18 AM)

Anything goes - filing a request for financial compensation for your overtime, getting them compensated by spare time either in full "stay at home" days or "go home early" days (always with permission by your superior), it doesn't matter. What matters is that you worked longer than your contract and your official shift plan require you on any given day.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 06:16 AM)

Now the important thing here is that overtime is clocked daily, so if you work an hour extra (all overtime prior to the Christmas peak season is voluntary) and then immediately work an hour less on the following day (assuming you got your superior's permission), you may have a net zero on your overtime account but still scored one hour for the premium regardless.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 06:14 AM)

In other news, I unlocked an achievement at work: There is an agreement between the works council and the employer which states that anyone who works 55 overtime hours this year between January and the end of September gets a premium in October.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 06:12 AM)

Of course, the idiots keep bringing up the fact that DC used it "first", despite us telling them over and over again that who was "first" is completely irrelevant in trademarks.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 06:10 AM)

Actually they just settled.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 August 2018 - 05:03 AM)

Sounds like Hasbro should win it easily.. They'be been using it constantly for years, so even if DC did have it, they haven't been using and defending their trademark.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 04:54 AM)

Well, haven't in a long time, that is.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 04:54 AM)

And there haven't been any toys based on DC's Teen Titans Bumblebee character until recently.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 04:54 AM)

Because Hasbro is selling toys.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 04:54 AM)

The trademark dispute was specifically about toys.

@  Pennpenn : (18 August 2018 - 04:50 AM)

Thought to be fair I didn't even know Hasbro and DC were having a trademark dispute. I thought that was something that would have been settled years ago (and DC wouldn't be doing much with their Bumblebee at the moment given Marvel's using Wasp at the moment)

@  Pennpenn : (18 August 2018 - 04:37 AM)

It sounds like the kind of person isn't going to be deflected by petty concerns like "reason" or "facts".

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 04:18 AM)

I told him repeatedly that the insects are completely irrelevant because THEY ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF SELLING TOYS (or ANY business at all, for that matter).

@  Pennpenn : (18 August 2018 - 04:08 AM)

Even if he meant that the word "bumblebee" has been used to describe a particular type of insect (which is a much more coherent statement) it's still wrong.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 03:40 AM)

Claiming that Hasbro's trademark has always been for "Autobot Bumblebee" (a quick look at any toy packaging in the past 12 years proves this wrong), Apple the computer company has never held a trademark for "Apple", only for "Apple Computers" (the USPTO database proves this wrong), you cannot trademark common words (the USPTO database proves this wrong), the insects have been using the name "Bumblebee" for thousands of years (insects don't speak English), and ARGHHHH.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 03:38 AM)

Jesus, there's this moron at TFW2005 who has a history of exceptionally outrageous bulls*** claims who is making all sorts of provably false statements in the thread about the Hasbro/DC "Bumblebee" trademark dispute.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 August 2018 - 12:06 AM)

If you stop for gas/directions shortly before getting there and the attendant is unusually creepy and/or inbred, turn back

@  Noideaforaname : (17 August 2018 - 09:49 PM)

Booked a cheap cabin in the stormy mountains filled with alcohol. This is either a great find or the start of a horror film.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 August 2018 - 06:55 PM)

I loved those commercials...

@  Patch : (17 August 2018 - 06:14 PM)

Paladin drank Bud Ice once in the 90s, and the penguins have been after him ever since.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2018 - 01:44 PM)

You weren't using it anyway.

@  Paladin : (17 August 2018 - 12:11 PM)

one by one the penguins steal my sanity...

@  Donocropolis : (17 August 2018 - 06:30 AM)

New band name: The Sabre Worf Hypothesis

@  wonko the sane? : (16 August 2018 - 06:36 AM)

That never goes away. I still have little panic attacks when I see water where it's not supposed to be. I've lived through enough leaking roofs, broken pipes and floods to know it could be a very bad sign.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 August 2018 - 09:20 PM)

Despite my parents explaining that to me when I was a kid, I still half-panic every time I see condensation dripping.

@  Shrug : (15 August 2018 - 08:23 PM)

Yup. If the water happens to be on the left or right of the vehicle, make sure to remember that. That way it's real easy to tell if it's something else dripping.

@  Nevermore : (15 August 2018 - 05:15 PM)

So I checked online and it appears... it's totally normal, that's apparently condensed water from the air conditioning.

@  Nevermore : (15 August 2018 - 05:14 PM)

Phew!" For a moment I thought I was in real trouble because when I arrived at home and drove my car into the garage, there was a trail of large wet spots.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 August 2018 - 08:01 AM)

The showerhead exploded off the pipe this morning. So yeah... think it's going to be a "great" day.

@  Donocropolis : (13 August 2018 - 09:44 PM)

Luckily, it was "Wheel Horse Lawnmower"

@  Donocropolis : (13 August 2018 - 09:44 PM)

I knew that my father was getting old when he finally posted a facebook status that was clearly a search term.


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Posted 02 August 2018 - 06:53 AM

This issue was released a week early through IDW's website, so discuss here! No spoilers for this issue outside of this thread, please.

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 07:20 AM

Spoiler

 

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 07:56 AM



What if God was one of us?
Just a psychiatrist on a bus?

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"He learned, almost too late, that man is a feeling creature and, because of it, the greatest in the universe. He learned, too late for himself, that men have to make their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be any gift of perfection from outside ourselves. And, when men seek such perfection, they find there's only death, fire, loss, disillusionment, the end of everything that's gone forward. Men have always sought an end to toil and misery. It can't be given; it has to be achieved. There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from man himself."

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 08:01 AM



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Posted 02 August 2018 - 11:02 AM

Uhhh, wow.

 

Assuming the Grand Architect isn't bullshitting everyone, the wiki sure is going to have a hell of a time managing these pages.

 

What a time to be alive.


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Posted 02 August 2018 - 11:21 AM

So if issue 25 is going to be an epilogue, that means Roberts has 2 issues to wrap this up. Yeah, this is gonna be rushed as hell.

 

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 11:41 AM

Nah. It'll be fine, the only major threat is a giant robot that they can't explode but has a convenient juicy middle filled with the 7 guys they need to kill to stop it. Easily do-able in a comic book, and frankly should be done as fast as possible since Roberts is better at character writing than at action.

This was a good issue precisely for that too. Very little bang bang, exposition that is actualy thrilling, good interaction between character's that hadn't spoken in a while. It was fun.

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 11:46 AM

I'm wondering if they'll have to murder the Functionist denizens, given the Magnificence's seeming insistence that that'll happen.

 

Incidentally, there's got to be some further reason for the omniscience. A tie to the Warren maybe? As I'm suspecting the Warren is key to a lot of things involving the Guiding Hand.


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Posted 02 August 2018 - 12:33 PM

This whole thing just... ruins Rung's character for me. Having a mysterious purpose for his alternate mode and origins is one thing, but having him be the most important character cosmologically is just... it's a bad idea for exactly the same reason Optimus actually being The Arisen is a bad idea.


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Posted 02 August 2018 - 12:43 PM

This whole thing just... ruins Rung's character for me. Having a mysterious purpose for his alternate mode and origins is one thing, but having him be the most important character cosmologically is just... it's a bad idea for exactly the same reason Optimus actually being The Arisen is a bad idea.

 

The difference though is that Rung up until now has been a VERY unimportant character in the history of the planet (as far as anyone knew) and kept to himself.

 

Optimus being the Arisen doesn't work because it removes the whole "lone bot rising up to defend against tyranny" narrative and replaces it with a "he was already special to begin with; he didn't earn his specialness but was already special." Rung on the other hand has none of the pre-established hero mythos to undo with a new revelation (and for that matter, it's actively been hinted at; there's enough clues in the annual/Remain in Light to hint at this but none of us put them together.)


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Posted 02 August 2018 - 12:53 PM

As I was saying on Discord, I think it's probably going to be more like a "Steven Universe/Pink Diamond" kind of deal, where they're not LITERALLY reincarnations of the characters, but they're carrying their... essences around, in some fashion?
"He learned, almost too late, that man is a feeling creature and, because of it, the greatest in the universe. He learned, too late for himself, that men have to make their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be any gift of perfection from outside ourselves. And, when men seek such perfection, they find there's only death, fire, loss, disillusionment, the end of everything that's gone forward. Men have always sought an end to toil and misery. It can't be given; it has to be achieved. There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from man himself."

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 12:57 PM

As I was saying on Discord, I think it's probably going to be more like a "Steven Universe/Pink Diamond" kind of deal, where they're not LITERALLY reincarnations of the characters, but they're carrying their... essences around, in some fashion?

I don't think they're reincarnations. I'm assuming they're still the same incarnations and probably even the same bodies. They took efforts to remove themselves from the planet's history though and given all the rises and falls it was pretty easily for their appearance to become mythologized and idealized into that befitting of gods.

 

REALLY curious as to the Matrix now, though, now that we know Solomus isn't it (not to mention that never made sense anyway given it's capable of producing sparks). If anything I'd assume Rung created it given it's one big photonic crystal.


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Posted 02 August 2018 - 12:59 PM

Adaptus says that they don't remember who they are anymore, so, make of that what you will.
"He learned, almost too late, that man is a feeling creature and, because of it, the greatest in the universe. He learned, too late for himself, that men have to make their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be any gift of perfection from outside ourselves. And, when men seek such perfection, they find there's only death, fire, loss, disillusionment, the end of everything that's gone forward. Men have always sought an end to toil and misery. It can't be given; it has to be achieved. There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from man himself."

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 01:11 PM

...So I'm kind of starting to think that yes, the Knights of Cybertron really were just Some Guys who died in space.
"You don't deserve to know", huh, Metroplex?

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 01:15 PM

It says a lot that James Roberts' self insert is the singular most important Cybertronian God.

 

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 01:18 PM

...So I'm kind of starting to think that yes, the Knights of Cybertron really were just Some Guys who died in space.
"You don't deserve to know", huh, Metroplex?


That actually works quite well if you look at it from an end-of-The-Dark-Knight "they deserve better than the truth" point of view?

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 02:49 PM

 

...So I'm kind of starting to think that yes, the Knights of Cybertron really were just Some Guys who died in space.
"You don't deserve to know", huh, Metroplex?


That actually works quite well if you look at it from an end-of-The-Dark-Knight "they deserve better than the truth" point of view?

 

Was just thinking the same thing.

 

Also, I'm curious if the Militant Monoform Movement goes back far further than we thought as an organization, and removes their cogs not because they're anti-transforming but anti-Adaptus' agenda.


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Posted 02 August 2018 - 02:58 PM

...So I'm kind of starting to think that yes, the Knights of Cybertron really were just Some Guys who died in space.
"You don't deserve to know", huh, Metroplex?


That actually works quite well if you look at it from an end-of-The-Dark-Knight "they deserve better than the truth" point of view?


See, I always imagined it might be "the Knights were terrible people and you're better off not knowing the truth", but I never considered it might be "the truth is just really, really boring".

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 03:56 PM

Another thing I'm really not fond of: Megatron becoming another James Roberts-Snarker™

 

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 07:03 PM

This issue also had the biggest example of Megatron Is Perfect and Too Good For This World yet when he has medical skills that save Drift from death after Ratchet and Velocity, the former of which is a genius in his field, had given up.

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