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@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 09:33 AM)

Yeah, but they are machines. Couldn't they just adjust their own memories for the lifespan? Do we even know how they store memories in the first place?

@  Otaku : (23 October 2018 - 09:12 AM)

Now, I'm not saying that Cybertronians ought to have human life-spans, just that "millions of years" is too long.  Though I suppose it makes the "Oh, I suddenly remembered [plot point]!" moments credible because where do you store all the memories in an easily accessed form?  If you do remember even most things clearly... might that not be maddening?

@  Otaku : (23 October 2018 - 09:09 AM)

The "millions of years old" thing is probably the most alien aspect of Cybertronians.  It pushes my suspension of disbelief for anything remotely human to live that long and still be sane, or maybe even functional.  I think of how aging has affected my own view and sure, some of it is biological maturation, but a lot of it is experience.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 07:11 AM)

But they don't really have a childhood either. They go online and all maturation is literally job experience.

@  Shrug : (23 October 2018 - 06:47 AM)

Well, they're practically immortal. That kind of lifespan doesn't exactly push growing up.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 October 2018 - 04:00 AM)

They can't handle physical scale, did you think temporal scale would fare any better?

@  Pennpenn : (23 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

Maybe it's that they're functionally intelligent, but don't ever really mature much psychologically. That and presumably the original writers gave as much of a shit about deep time as they did about space geometry.

@  Whirl Maximus : (23 October 2018 - 02:03 AM)

I'm mixed about the millions of years thing, it's somewhat at odds when transformers are humanized as they often are.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 October 2018 - 11:59 PM)

Are any of the Transformers terribly bright, really? This is a spacefaring civilization that's millions of years old that seem to be fighting a perpetual war for no particular reason. Transformers are stupider than humans

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2018 - 08:31 PM)

Depends on the machine. Are you recruiting them, or MAKING them?

@  Cybersnark : (22 October 2018 - 08:30 PM)

... And not terribly bright.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2018 - 07:51 PM)

Makes sense for robot soldiers: you would want something fast, low profile, but lots of power.

@  Waspinator : (22 October 2018 - 06:31 PM)

If we go by the Prime cartoon, sports cars apparently ARE the expendable troop of choice.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 October 2018 - 04:29 PM)

Just fold 'em into a box and slap some wheels on it, they'll figure it out.

@  Pennpenn : (22 October 2018 - 01:57 AM)

Given that by the time we're up to in the story Functionalism had been dead for millions of years and many of the people around were made during and for the war, it's probably more likely that "sports car shaped thing" was an easy to make alt mode for expendable troops.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 09:52 PM)

maybe there's underground demolition derbies too

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 09:25 PM)

Every single sports car was one of those two jobs? Considering how many there seem to be....

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 07:34 PM)

Athletic Entertainment

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 October 2018 - 03:32 PM)

It's mentioned in one issue that Bumblebee was a courier. The only other fast cars I can remember seeing in Functionist times were Blur and a couple of Stunticons, as racers.

@  SG Roadbuster : (21 October 2018 - 12:14 PM)

i figured the sports cars were either racers or couriers.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 12:13 PM)

Upper Class. They're clearly not made for manual labor.

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 12:09 PM)

Functionism only really makes sense for certain alternate modes like mining or construction equipment; where do things like sports cars fit in?

@  Xellos : (21 October 2018 - 11:51 AM)

At least in the movies they can switch to a (similar) alt mode at will, it seems. Especially if they want to sell more toys per movie.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2018 - 10:44 AM)

They are a race of adaptive machines. Maybe they were expected to change themselves to fit the role?

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 10:06 AM)

IDW-verse discrimination still made more sense than the backstory in TF: Exodus, where everyone's caste was assigned seemingly at random with no regard for their aptitudes (altmode or otherwise)

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:55 AM)

Lost Light is good too, so far.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:54 AM)

I'm not terribly into Transformers in general, but I did mostly enjoy the More Than Meets The Eye series.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:11 AM)

Which has been in the state constitution since 1946, but was never actually executed according to documents, and is currently not in effect because the German federal constitution, which takes priority over state constitution, has banned the death penalty back in 1949.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:09 AM)

Huh. So next weekend, when the German state of Hesse will have its state election, there will also be a ballot about changing the state constitution... and one of the proposed changes will be abolishing the death penalty.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

I really need to read those comics

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:28 AM)

Up to and including the fact that certain alternate modes could end up being classified as "surplus to requirements" and systematically murdered.

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:26 AM)

And in IDW comics where it is/was literally a form of apartheid where your alternate mode pretty much dictated how you were treated by society, what jobs you could pursue, pretty much everything.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 02:24 AM)

We do get hints of that from time to time in Transformers, with stuff like some jets acting smug towards cars and whatnot.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 October 2018 - 08:10 PM)

"No shotgun of Mine is going to marry a rocket launcher" sounds like something that Targetmasters (or WFC Siege Micromasters) might say...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 08:06 PM)

The characters are actually kinda nice. Sure a bunch of them are from New Jersey, but you get a few aliens too.. But if you do that, you might want to go digital delux verisons.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:38 PM)

My only issue is that the aside from Fox, the looks of the characters are kinda bland. If anything, I'll at least get it on Black Friday, as they almost always have deals on the toys to life stuff.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 06:07 PM)

Well I can tell you, if you are going physical version because you want the toys. The Switch version has the best Ship mount as you just slide the joycons into it. The PS4 ship mount is wired. The game itself is very good in my opionion. In some ways it starts to turn into an RTS without being an RTS. You've got to start focus on keeping your planets from being taken back over. It has a LOT to do. It does have some repitive missions, because well, trying to let you level up all pilots and ships and such. The switch version -ALSO- has starfox only missions and the characters are incorporated into the story.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:03 PM)

How is Starlink anyways? Been thinking of getting the Switch version for StarFox, which is quite unusal for me, as I almost always pick the PS4 versions (favorite controller and I already have so many Trophys on it).

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:42 PM)

No shotgun of mine is going to marry a rocket launcher!

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 October 2018 - 05:22 PM)

Should they be allowed to marry outside of their own caliber?

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:18 PM)

I'm conflicted on the subject of marriage rights for shotguns.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:24 PM)

You say, "Damn it, what do you think this is, a shotgun wedding?"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:23 PM)

What do you do if someone wants to bring their concealed-carry to your American wedding?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 01:58 PM)

Benbot, I was streaming the PS4 version of Starlink

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:25 PM)

Ergo their reporting will have its own slant on the facts as they choose, not the most neutral way possible.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:24 PM)

I find it sad to realize that the prestigious New York Times which I trusted a lot as a kid in fact has its own editorial agenda.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:20 PM)

The end result is NOT that stupid bullshit gets equal coverage as reasonable arguments. That would be problematic in itself (the "false balance" bias), but the provlem is that the controversial stupid bullshit gets MORE coverage than the reasonable arguments.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

The media doesn't want to miss the opportunity to report on a controversy, and as a consequence makes sure that the controversial statements reach an audience.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

Because they realized that saying controversial shit is guaranteed to get coverage.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:16 PM)

It's the same here in Germany. Our right-wing moron party is still a political minority, yet they succeed in driving the topics the media keeps reporting.


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#1 SHIELD Agent 47

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 01:41 PM

Press release from Fathom Events, Hasbro, and Shout! Factory:

 

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 01:45 PM

Is it a remaster of the original theatrical release, or just the cropped version that was on the Shoutfactory DVDs?


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 01:51 PM

Is it a remaster of the original theatrical release, or just the cropped version that was on the Shoutfactory DVDs?


Eh? According to TFWiki the theatrical widescreen version is the cropped one.

And Shout's website says their release included both widescreen and full frame versions.

Edited by NotVeryKnightly, 01 August 2018 - 01:53 PM.


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 01:56 PM

Of course this would air in the same month as the most overhyped DBZ movie. I swear, this coincidence just gives me more snark ammo.

Edited by Onyxstrike, 01 August 2018 - 01:56 PM.


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 01:58 PM

What are you talking about, its broly the same thing.

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 02:00 PM

What are you talking about, its broly the same thing.

It's not the old non-canon Broly movie from DBZ. It's a new one, canon to DB Super.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 02:04 PM

 

Is it a remaster of the original theatrical release, or just the cropped version that was on the Shoutfactory DVDs?


Eh? According to TFWiki the theatrical widescreen version is the cropped one.

And Shout's website says their release included both widescreen and full frame versions.

 

I guess I'm one of those "some fans" and specifically thought those crop comparisons were only about the widescreen cut on the Shoutfactory release, and not about the theatrical version itself. And yes, I didn't say anything about Shout not having both versions.


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 02:05 PM

What are you talking about, its broly the same thing.

It's not the old non-canon Broly movie from DBZ. It's a new one, canon to DB Super.

Theaters are airing the old Broly movie in preparation for the new one, and in the same month as this Transformers movie airing too.

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 02:06 PM

 

 

What are you talking about, its broly the same thing.

It's not the old non-canon Broly movie from DBZ. It's a new one, canon to DB Super.

Theaters are airing the old Broly movie in preparation for the new one, and in the same month as this Transformers movie airing too.

 

Well that seems redundant.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 02:26 PM

What are you talking about, its broly the same thing.

It's not the old non-canon Broly movie from DBZ. It's a new one, canon to DB Super.
Theaters are airing the old Broly movie in preparation for the new one, and in the same month as this Transformers movie airing too.
Well that seems redundant.
You could say the same hugging thing about this one, 'cause it's corresponding to the Bumblebee movie that's coming out in a few months!

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 02:47 PM

Hopefully, this will be followed by a home release of the 4k transfer on disc and digital.

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 02:58 PM

The day before my birthday? Im in!

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 04:42 PM

Ah, the first movie that I can remember seeing in theaters. I am so going to be there.

Though hopefully it will be in a decent distribution of theaters. Sometimes the fathom event stuff does not have showings anywhere near me.
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Posted 01 August 2018 - 06:17 PM

Yeah, whether I go or not will depend greatly on whether it shows within a reasonable driving distance. :)
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Posted 01 August 2018 - 06:42 PM

If it were local, maybe, but I doubt with how far into the boonies I am that there's chance of that.  



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Posted 01 August 2018 - 08:23 PM

My theater in Clarksville is good about Fathom showings; most of what I wanted to see they shown (except the Encore showings of 'Star Trek II') so I'm confident it will be near me. 

 

now to wait until August 3rd to find out, then I can blast on facebook and start bugging people to go with me.


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Posted 02 August 2018 - 12:02 AM

Holy jive! I was born in '87 so I missed its very brief run, but I grew up watching TF:TM and never stopped loving it. The soundtrack is the first CD I ever bought and I have never play it in my cars because I'm pretty sure by the time Dare ended I'd be involved in a high speed chase on the highway.

 

So I've been wanting to see this in a theater since I was a kid. My brother and I once in a while rent a little indie theater for private screenings and this is on The List, which I figured that was the only way it was ever going to happen. Who knew the Bayformers would be good for something other than drink coasters? Maybe Bay can take a crack at GI Joe so I can get to see Sgt. Slaughter kick Nemesis Enforcer's ass all over the big screen.

 

Anyway, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go check and see if Gal Gadot is waiting in my driveway with a briefcase full of money, because apparently sometimes dreams do come true.



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Posted 02 August 2018 - 02:22 AM

Terrible movie.

Those poor little tykes who wanted to see the characters from that silly cartoon in a film adventure were lured into a movie theatre where their Favorites like Optimus Prime, Ironhide and Starscream were slaughtered ruthlessly in the first twenty minutes. All because those nasty venom spewing writers and producers could work with Hollywood names like Judd Nelson, Leonard Nimoy, Orson Wells, Robert stack and Eric idle.


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Posted 02 August 2018 - 03:39 AM

Terrible movie.

Those poor little tykes who wanted to see the characters from that silly cartoon in a film adventure were lured into a movie theatre where their Favorites like Optimus Prime, Ironhide and Starscream were slaughtered ruthlessly in the first twenty minutes. All because those nasty venom spewing writers and producers could work with Hollywood names like Judd Nelson, Leonard Nimoy, Orson Wells, Robert stack and Eric idle.

 

Yeah but would we still be here talking about all this if it wasn't for the movie in the first place? Maybe TF fandom would be as big as... M.A.S.K. or something like that? The movie was definitely *memorable* if nothing else -- due mostly to the radical change in setting and tone stemming from that desire to sell new toys.



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Posted 02 August 2018 - 06:22 AM

And unlike some TF media these days, it wasn't afraid to shake up the status quo.





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