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@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 June 2019 - 10:12 PM)

It's like drawing someone in the "superhero landing" pose. It's just part of the cultural vocabulary at this point.

@  Arazyr : (25 June 2019 - 07:14 PM)

I can hear that post... *shudder*

@  B-Fox : (25 June 2019 - 06:09 PM)

So why does Cyberverse sound like . . . *that*?

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:05 PM)

Also, the theoretical new image would be a new compostion, it would just be individual bodies, or even just body parts, that are based on existing references by other creators, with the major caveat that there is more than one example for each reference so it's basically more like "following an established trend" than "copying someone's original creation".

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:03 PM)

Well, an homage is usually marked by a signature along the lines of "artist X after artist Y". I wasn't thinking about recreating something particularly memorable, just looking for reference images (just of a pose/perspective/layout) that looks like what I want, then finding more examples that just happen to look very similar, and it cannot be determined which version came "first".

@  ZakuConvoy : (25 June 2019 - 03:09 PM)

What you're describing is more an "homage" than plagiarism, really. I'm assuming you would be using different characters. It's basically like all the comic covers that homage the death of Supergirl cover from Crisis on Infinite Earths...but with different characters. It's not plagiarism, it's a reference. But if several artists have a memorable layout and are all using it, chances are it actually is referencing something memorably original.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:56 PM)

Would that still qualify as plagiarism? After all, it could be argued that what I've recreated isn't that original to begin with since several other people have supposedly had the same general idependently from each other.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:54 PM)

And I were then to create a new image, not traced but maybe "swiped", except I wouldn't copy a specific source image, but merely recreate the basic pose and perspective shared between all of them...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:52 PM)

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@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:49 PM)

And out of sheer coincidence, they all feature very similar ideas, concepts, poses and/or perspectives, supposedly with none of the original creators having copied from one of the others...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:47 PM)

Assuming I were to find not one but two, three, four or even more source images, all of them by different artists, or by different photographers depicting different models...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:45 PM)

Just out of curiosity, a question regarding the concept of plagiarism:

@  Benbot : (25 June 2019 - 08:58 AM)

That game needs a remake

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 08:57 AM)

I am Error.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 June 2019 - 08:17 AM)

There is no error. There is only Zuul.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 07:51 AM)

The unicron singularity fixes all continuity errors.. including Power Rangers related ones now!

@  MEDdMI : (25 June 2019 - 07:06 AM)

I reject your canon and substitute my own

@  unluckiness : (25 June 2019 - 12:32 AM)

Answer: It doesn't matter because even if there was one, it was never relevant in S1 and it got blown up with his original body

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 June 2019 - 10:55 PM)

Most people think Transformers canon is a series of discrete parallel lines, really it's more like a big ball of canony-wanony... stuff.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 June 2019 - 06:31 PM)

Hate to say this, but the simple answer is that you are thinking too hard and realistically, it does not matter.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2019 - 04:57 PM)

Don't tell me what to do.

@  Paladin : (24 June 2019 - 04:16 PM)

don't cross the streams.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 03:03 PM)

Or is this what AVP meant when he said that condradictory streams formed the JG1 timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:25 PM)

I don't like that idea.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:24 PM)

In Ask Vector Prime, it was mentioned that in the Beast Wars 2 universe, Convoys all have Energon Matrices and that when Optimus Primal from the Japanese Beast Wars stream was transported to the Beast Wars 2 stream, his history was subtly altered that he too possessed an Energon Matrix. What does this mean? That Beast Wars 2 is actually not canon to the Japanese Beast Wars?

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 08:54 AM)

yeah, I've got a few others that I need to check out/get removed. The nose one is small but annoying since I hit it every time I blow my nose.

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 08:46 AM)

Try to get a histopath examination if it isn't too expensive over there. It's probably just a mole but I'd think certainty would be better.

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 07:59 AM)

@unluckiness I know, plan to get it removed but gotta get an appt first

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

oops... typed that in the wrong field. :)

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

gizmoboy

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 03:18 AM)

That is not a good thing, especially in the long term

@  MEDdMI : (23 June 2019 - 10:17 PM)

So who wants to hear about this mole on my nose that I keep scratching open

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 June 2019 - 09:24 PM)

Yeah, it's kind of defeating the purpose of making political discussions more restricted if you're just gonna go at it elsewhere on this site.

@  Telly : (23 June 2019 - 07:06 PM)

that would probly fit better in the p & r thread. its there for things just like this

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:29 PM)

The citizens resisted by buying up all the town's beer reserves so the Nazis would have to stay sober the entire time.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:28 PM)

Meanwhile, congratulations civil resistance, part 2: So a group of Nazis were holding one of their Good Old Times Reenactment festivals in a small East German town.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:26 PM)

It's basically like an anti-Trump candidate winning Texas.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:25 PM)

The mayoral elections of Istanbul are considered to be a key indicator for the political climate in the entire country.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:24 PM)

This time, it was a landslide victory for the opposition's candidate.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:23 PM)

After president Erdogan had a court revoke the results of the mayoral election of Istanbul after the opposition party's candidate had won by a small margin, the election was repeated today.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Congratulations, democracy part 1: Today is a historic day for Turkey.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 June 2019 - 02:31 PM)

Convert, does he timeout?

@  unluckiness : (23 June 2019 - 09:12 AM)

Did he form the feet and legs or the arms and body?

@  Patch : (22 June 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Nah, he was one of the Lions

@  MEDdMI : (22 June 2019 - 04:45 PM)

Is he a Shellformer

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2019 - 12:38 PM)

Supposedly it's about that football player Calvin Johnson.

@  Pennpenn : (22 June 2019 - 07:03 AM)

I'm vaguely confused why there is a Nicki Minaj song in my youtube reccomendations, but even more confused as to why that song (which appears to be from an official account) is called "MEGATRON".

@  Liege : (21 June 2019 - 10:03 PM)

Alpha Q all night long.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 June 2019 - 10:44 AM)

Only if you ask nicely, Silv.

@  RichardT1977 : (21 June 2019 - 09:42 AM)

1998 Zilla is the Gaijin era.


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#81 Noideaforaname

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Posted 28 August 2018 - 05:43 PM

.........
.........
... fine, "meatspace" then

#82 Ironbite

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Posted 28 August 2018 - 06:16 PM

 

Can you imagine if this was applied to the real world?

"Remember that joke you made years and years ago?"
"...no?"
"Well that weirdo everybody ignores does, and he tattled to your boss and now they're firing you!"
"Ha ha"
"No seriously, here's your pink slip."


This is the real world. He really doesnt have a job any more.

 

 

Oh....oh my god.

 

Ironbite-the point flew over your head twice.


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Posted 28 August 2018 - 07:10 PM

.........
.........
... fine, "meatspace" then


This does happen? Grab em by the pussy. Billy Bush.
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#84 Johnny Here

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Posted 28 August 2018 - 07:38 PM

 

Can you imagine if this was applied to the real world?

"Remember that joke you made years and years ago?"
"...no?"
"Well that weirdo everybody ignores does, and he tattled to your boss and now they're firing you!"
"Ha ha"
"No seriously, here's your pink slip."

This is the real world. He really doesnt have a job any more.
 
 
Oh....oh my god.
 
Ironbite-the point flew over your head twice.

No, I got it. I just dont agree.

Compare a famous Director to a regular 9 to 5.

And even then, ppl with regular 9 to 5s who get exposed on social media risk losing their job too. I just had a training at work about this.

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Posted 29 August 2018 - 05:07 PM

Make that three times now.  Just...wow.

 

Ironbite-how does that happen?


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Posted 29 August 2018 - 07:21 PM

Make that three times now.  Just...wow.
 
Ironbite-how does that happen?


Youre one of those ppl, that based on how you consistently post, your opinion means nothing to me.

All you can in this thread is RJNDIENSINSKSJSKND and wow...just wow man. All in defense of a man who made pedophile statements as terrible jokes.

I identify as liberal, I dont like %99 of conservatives, but I dont care who exposed what, if you said it, you said it.

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Posted 29 August 2018 - 08:04 PM

And he apologized for it, made amends for it, and has grown from it.  Do you not see how stupid the above situation is?  And let's not forget, this was an attack by the right wing because Gunn doesn't worship the ground Donald Trump pollutes on.  Keep in mind that these statements were known about when Gunn was hired by Disney for Vol. 1.  Keep in mind that that was brought up by the liberal wings and you know what happened?  Gunn addressed it and apologized for it.  What Disney has done is basically said that the voices of Neo-Nazis is more important to them.  That's a dangerous precedent to set man.  

 

Ironbite-but then you've had the point sail over your head three times now so....


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Posted 29 August 2018 - 10:25 PM

And he apologized for it, made amends for it, and has grown from it.  Do you not see how stupid the above situation is?  And let's not forget, this was an attack by the right wing because Gunn doesn't worship the ground Donald Trump pollutes on.  Keep in mind that these statements were known about when Gunn was hired by Disney for Vol. 1.  Keep in mind that that was brought up by the liberal wings and you know what happened?  Gunn addressed it and apologized for it.  What Disney has done is basically said that the voices of Neo-Nazis is more important to them.  That's a dangerous precedent to set man.  
 
Ironbite-but then you've had the point sail over your head three times now so....

Unless Im mistaken, the offensive comments he apologized for already were different ones

LINK: https://www.google.c...sly-apologized/

Disney firing James Gunn isnt letting the Neo-Nazis win, its saying theyre a kids company and they dont want to be associated with those statements.

Dude was a grown ass man when he made those statements. LOL at grown from it...I find those statements abhorrent and I wonder what kind of bubble you have to live in to even consider saying that around your friends, much less on a personal platform.

When this happened on twitter, I went what a world we live in. How polarized do we have to be as a society that making those statements has to be a political issue.

Im not Republican, not a Neo-Nazi and those statements were tremendously creepy. And I was surprised at ppl saying hey, they were just bad jokes when they really didnt come off that way at all.

Im trying to keep it respectful because I know the mods will swoop in as soon as I say something even though youve been troll baiting this whole thread, but you need to chill out.

i wouldnt defend my own family if they made those statements. Id be like uh, yeah thats messed up, I dont know what the hell they were on.

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#89 Ironbite

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Posted 30 August 2018 - 08:16 AM

Well I can see there's no getting through to you.

 

Ironbite-enjoy my block list.


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Posted 30 August 2018 - 03:29 PM

So apparently for some people you stop 'growing' as a person at a certain age. I keep seeing 'Was a grown man' thrown about.

 

You know three years ago or so when Fatal Frame V was announced to be digital only I called Nintendo incompetent fools that didn't want my money. Later I realized that no, while it sucks Fatal Frame isn't a big series in America, and the fact we got it at all was frankly more then I could hope for. I feel like a fool for thinking how I did back then.

 

That's kinda the thing here. Someone made a mistake and realized it. From everything I've read or heard they feel awful that such a thing ever happened in their life, but well it did. They can't change it, only work to make sure they never do such a stupid thing again. Which from also what I've heard, they've been doing a good job at.

 

But no, I guess to some there is no redemption. You make one mistake, say one stupid thing in your past, and that's it.

 

Those people are the ones who need to 'chill out'

 

I'm with those who think Gunn shouldn't have been fired. Clearly he knows how terrible what he said was, and wants to change into a better person. I think we should you know ENCOURAGE THAT, rather then punish it.

 

After all, everyone of us here has said something stupid in the past that one could call us out for. I don't see any benefit in doing so though.


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Posted 30 August 2018 - 03:41 PM

Change, redemption, second-chances, forgiveness? BAH! That shit is for suckers, evidently.


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Posted 30 August 2018 - 03:50 PM

Whether or not he changed doesn't matter at all.  All that matters is brand perception.  If people see the words "James Gunn" associated with the word "pedophile" and also the words "Disney" and "Marvel" then it negatively impacts the perception of the brand to the general public who doesn't give a damn what he said, when he said it, or how bad he feels about it.  All they care about is they saw the word "pedophile." And that's bad for making money.  No one will ever describe movie making better than Michael Eisner did.  They have no obligation to make history. They have no obligation to make art. They have no obligation to make a statement. To make money is the only objective. 


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Posted 30 August 2018 - 04:29 PM

So apparently for some people you stop 'growing' as a person at a certain age. I keep seeing 'Was a grown man' thrown about.
 
You know three years ago or so when Fatal Frame V was announced to be digital only I called Nintendo incompetent fools that didn't want my money. Later I realized that no, while it sucks Fatal Frame isn't a big series in America, and the fact we got it at all was frankly more then I could hope for. I feel like a fool for thinking how I did back then.
 
That's kinda the thing here. Someone made a mistake and realized it. From everything I've read or heard they feel awful that such a thing ever happened in their life, but well it did. They can't change it, only work to make sure they never do such a stupid thing again. Which from also what I've heard, they've been doing a good job at.
 
But no, I guess to some there is no redemption. You make one mistake, say one stupid thing in your past, and that's it.
 
Those people are the ones who need to 'chill out'
 
I'm with those who think Gunn shouldn't have been fired. Clearly he knows how terrible what he said was, and wants to change into a better person. I think we should you know ENCOURAGE THAT, rather then punish it.
 
After all, everyone of us here has said something stupid in the past that one could call us out for. I don't see any benefit in doing so though.

Just because you apologize and you did something years ago doesnt mean you shouldnt have to face consequences for your actions.

People crying but he apologized are the definition of entitlement.

And if I did something on that level of stupid, I would expect to take the hit.

Edited by Johnny Here, 30 August 2018 - 04:30 PM.


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Posted 30 August 2018 - 05:28 PM

I think this thread needs to take a chill pill, let's all think on that.

 

Everyone has done or said things in their past that they're now ashamed of or would not choose to repeat today. Some of those people have apologised and tried to make amends. Some haven't. There's a fundamental question here about whether the concept of forgiveness can exist, and where we draw the lines if it can. 

 

I suspect that Disney ultimately takes a bigger hit in losing Gunn, and the goodwill of many fans and huge movie stars, than they would by saying "we agree Gunn said stupid things but that was a long time ago and he has moved beyond that so we will not appease the vindictive nutjobs who are transparently victimising him".

 

And it's blatantly obvious that there are people Disney has been happy to work with who have done much worse than Gunn. 

 

He made some extremely offensive jokes. I don't condone them at all. But if we're going to write people off forever even years after they've apologised and tried to be better, what do we have left in the end? Who can escape a blacklist that unforgiving? Is every human being really frozen forever at their worst? Is there no hope that people can grow and evolve and improve? That's a damn sad way to look at life. 


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Posted 30 August 2018 - 06:39 PM

Yeah Johnny, I've dealt with some stupid entitled people at my old job, and thanks to poor management, there were days I'd get so frustrated I'd lash out at them.

 

Should I be fired or written up now for something dumb I said six years ago? "Hey a friend of mine once took the last soda in my fridge about five years ago. Better make him pay for it today!"

I find your argument silly. Look dude, no one here is on your side okay? We don't agree with you. Accept that and let it go.


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Posted 30 August 2018 - 07:06 PM

Yeah Johnny, I've dealt with some stupid entitled people at my old job, and thanks to poor management, there were days I'd get so frustrated I'd lash out at them.
 
Should I be fired or written up now for something dumb I said six years ago? "Hey a friend of mine once took the last soda in my fridge about five years ago. Better make him pay for it today!"

I find your argument silly. Look dude, no one here is on your side okay? We don't agree with you. Accept that and let it go.

Im just posting like everyone else. I havent been disrespectful.

And if youre a public figure, who says something MASSIVELY against the companies values, then yes, you should expect be fired. People get fired for less every day.

Edited by Johnny Here, 30 August 2018 - 07:10 PM.


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Posted 30 August 2018 - 07:40 PM

http://ew.com/movies...he-galaxy-films
 
Response from Gunn.


...I make jokes like that or worse ALL THE TIME. This is pathetic.

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Posted 31 August 2018 - 06:41 AM

He could have told those jokes yesterday, and I'd still think it was wrong to fire him. Not because I care about the quality of Marvel films or about his career, but because it's just jokes, and because capitulating to an unrepentant rapist piece of shit like Cernovich is wrong in just about any way you care to debate.



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Posted 31 August 2018 - 08:46 AM

 

And if youre a public figure, who says something MASSIVELY against the companies values, then yes, you should expect be fired.

 

 

that'll be news to Johnny Depp then...


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Posted 31 August 2018 - 08:58 AM

Yeah Johnny, I've dealt with some stupid entitled people at my old job, and thanks to poor management, there were days I'd get so frustrated I'd lash out at them.
 
Should I be fired or written up now for something dumb I said six years ago? "Hey a friend of mine once took the last soda in my fridge about five years ago. Better make him pay for it today!"

I find your argument silly. Look dude, no one here is on your side okay? We don't agree with you. Accept that and let it go.


Uh, I'm on his side. Mostly.

I love guns movies. Have since Slither. His tweets were not funny, but I don't condem any comedian for making a joke that may be too "offensive".

That said if you can't see this is a reasonable, if not smart move on Disneys part you have blinders on. I think the largest amount of backlash comes from this being "what the alt right/nazis wanted" if the "SJW left" hadexposed him for rape jokes I think he would have far less support.

If you have a very public employee, working for your very family targeted company that is currently making big news, right now, for publicly expresing very non family friendly things you need to get rid of them. This is not Disney bowing to them, this is them finally getting a check mate with one of there stupid goofy back lash attempts.

I assure you if the Papa John incident was the same except the public found out it happened 10 years ago, that guy would still be gone.


Also the shouting down of hare for expressing a perfectly reasonable opinion, while tame for other boards, is really off putting and out of character for the Allspark, especially outside of P&R.
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