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@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 August 2019 - 12:07 AM)

Well then they need to re-release Vector Prime. :D Of course I would accept Vector Prime Headmaster with Alpha Trion as the head.

@  unluckiness : (18 August 2019 - 12:05 AM)

That said, the bendy sword is ridiculous.

@  unluckiness : (18 August 2019 - 12:05 AM)

I dunno, the old one is still pretty good by modern standards and the clunkiness is somewhat in-character.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 August 2019 - 08:37 PM)

We need a new vector prime

@  Paladin : (17 August 2019 - 03:59 PM)

just don't leave Cybertron Vector Prime out in the sun or his wings will melt.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 August 2019 - 03:17 PM)

@Nevermore Duly noted.

@  Rycochet : (17 August 2019 - 02:12 PM)

I have three Cybertron Vector Primes, wouldn't throw them around though. I love that design too much,

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2019 - 02:03 PM)

I'm just picturing someone throwing a pile of Vector Prime toys around. I don't know why.

@  Rycochet : (17 August 2019 - 01:42 PM)

Multi Vector Assault mode is what they go into when they think anyone's even slightly infringing on their IP.

@  Ashley : (17 August 2019 - 02:30 AM)

They MIGHT have done it for Star Trek Online ships, but even if they have that'd be a fairly specific category.

@  Tieria Prime : (17 August 2019 - 02:11 AM)

Hi friends

@  Nevermore : (17 August 2019 - 02:05 AM)

So only if Viacom/Paramount has actively trademarked the term "multi-vector assault mode", offered goods or services under that name and has been offering those goods and services in recent years, Hasbro cannot offer goods or services under that name in the same category.

@  Nevermore : (17 August 2019 - 02:04 AM)

And they need to be consistently used on top of that.

@  Nevermore : (17 August 2019 - 02:03 AM)

Even if they are trademarked.

@  Nevermore : (17 August 2019 - 02:02 AM)

Words and terms used in dialogue shouldn't be affected.

@  Nevermore : (17 August 2019 - 02:02 AM)

Also, the trademarks only apply in commerce. You use them to identify goods and services.

@  Ashley : (16 August 2019 - 11:55 PM)

Yeah, you also need to apply for it. They might've never bothered to trademark that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 August 2019 - 08:37 PM)

Trademark affects titles and product names, not every word in writing. For example, DC called their character "Captain Marvel" as recently as 2014.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 August 2019 - 08:30 PM)

You missed my point. I was addressing the usage of the phrase in dialogue. Hence the quotation marks.

@  Pennpenn : (16 August 2019 - 08:00 PM)

Well, they can anyway, they might just not be able to call it that...

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 August 2019 - 06:54 PM)

It would be awesome for Transformers to have the likes of Overlord and Sky Lynx "engage multi-vector assault mode!"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 August 2019 - 06:53 PM)

It is a shame that "multi-vector assault mode" is probably trademarked for Star Trek.

@  unluckiness : (15 August 2019 - 10:54 PM)

Only if they manage to boomer-proof it

@  RichardT1977 : (15 August 2019 - 08:16 PM)

(and would that really be a bad thing?)

@  RichardT1977 : (15 August 2019 - 08:16 PM)

Wouldn't a cybernetic singularity actually remove one or more of the top levels of Maslow's hierarchy?

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 August 2019 - 07:40 PM)

Tomy made some strange selections on their first wave of Tomica releases for the US

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 August 2019 - 06:26 PM)

Resistance is futile.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 August 2019 - 06:20 PM)

I would be down for a nice cybernetic singularity if it meant we could actually reach the top of maslow's hierarchy.

@  Ashley : (15 August 2019 - 05:44 PM)

I'm pretty sure the origin of the villains in GaoGaiGar was a computer being told to reduce the stress of the population and it's answer was to assimilate everyone.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 August 2019 - 01:53 PM)

Executions then followed by nano reanimation then cryonic suspension until everyone you know is deactivated for good so you can build happiness in a future society.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 August 2019 - 01:47 PM)

As opposed to the ones that lie already? As a civilization: we're emotional and socially broken. Might as well have the society that at least wants us to be "happy".

@  RichardT1977 : (15 August 2019 - 11:48 AM)

Or you'd have a lot of people lying about their emotional state to avoid being executed.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 August 2019 - 11:18 AM)

That would actually be a massive step up: since there's a LOT of stuff needed to quantify happiness, and it could only be an improvement over the existing governments which actually don't care if you live or die, never mind if you're "happy".

@  RichardT1977 : (15 August 2019 - 10:02 AM)

Happiness is mandatory, citizen. Failure to be happy is treason. Have a nice daycycle!

@  unluckiness : (15 August 2019 - 01:46 AM)

Maslow's hierarchy of needs

@  MrBlud : (14 August 2019 - 09:46 PM)

Humanity is pretty forgiving if you take care of its basic needs. "Freedom" and "Privacy" don't have much hold when you can't afford food, shelter, or medicine.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 August 2019 - 03:29 PM)

Something something peace through tyranny.

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 August 2019 - 02:43 PM)

You probably will have a house, AI overseers will crack down on stress, poverty, homelessness and human administration.

@  Rycochet : (14 August 2019 - 02:36 PM)

The bad news is they'll probab;y be made and operated by Amazon so will record every single thing you do and transmit it to their datacenters so theycan have human operators sift through it and laugh at footage of you dancing in your socks or having intercourse.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (14 August 2019 - 02:32 PM)

What if I don't have a house by then?

@  wonko the sane? : (14 August 2019 - 02:32 PM)

If the robot will do the cleaning, I don't care if it's mandatory. I'm sick of moping floors.

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 August 2019 - 02:05 PM)

humanoid service robots, one for every house in the west. ETA: 2050. household robots will be mandatory.

@  Rycochet : (14 August 2019 - 02:03 PM)

All I know is it'd be tragic if those evil robots win. I know she can beat them.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 August 2019 - 01:53 PM)

Big ones? Small ones? Ones as big as your head?

@  Rycochet : (14 August 2019 - 12:22 PM)

The robots are pink. Someone call Yoshimi!

@  wonko the sane? : (14 August 2019 - 11:11 AM)

Yeah, could you maybe be more specific? Are they good robots? Bad ones? Do they just want to take our jobs? We need more information to work out how we feel about them.

@  Benbot : (14 August 2019 - 11:03 AM)

which ones?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 August 2019 - 11:24 AM)

Robots are coming....

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2019 - 07:14 PM)

my nephew showed me the cuphead rap, and now it's stuck in my head...

@  Hg Dragon : (12 August 2019 - 07:07 PM)

Hershey squirts. AKA diarrhea

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Star Wars General Discussion - What will the future of the franchise look like?

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#501 Pale Rider

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 06:39 AM

I'd expect that the average person was far more concerned about their local garrison.

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 07:39 AM

Pre-ANH, Vader seemed to be a relatively high-ranking official* --note that, while he was commanding troops and sitting in on high-level meetings, he was taking orders from a Grand Moff (and Leia was well aware that someone had to be "holding Vader's leash").

By ESB he has clearly been promoted to full command of his own mission fleet.

(* The nature of an "empire" means that there is no meaningful distinction between a government official and a military officer, so it's hard to describe Vader's official status in ways that would make sense to most of us.)

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 09:19 AM

I would think Vader's main job for most of the time in between RotS and ANH was hunting down and killing remaining Jedi.  This would also include training Inquisitors, Palpatine certainly wouldn't have bothered with that.  He would have existed outside the standard Imperial command structure, but also able to override most of the officers in whatever situation Palpatine would have sent him to look at.  The exception to this would be those officers those at a certain level like the Moffs and maybe Grand Admirals, Vader would be under their command.


Remember Anakin was pretty high ranked in the Republic Army, so he would have been familiar and comfortable with military protocol.


After ANH you have an emergent Rebel threat, with the bonus of the person who destroyed the Death Star rumored to maybe be a Jedi, which would have caused a good chunk of the military to be reorganized as Vader's personal hunter squad.  This is even ignoring the fact that he knows Luke is his son and would have gone straight after him no matter what.  Palpatine just gave him more resources to be able to do the job properly and make sure Luke got captured so he could eventually replace Vader.

Edited by Monocle, 23 July 2019 - 08:08 AM.

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 09:25 AM

It's also noteworthy that Leia had no qualms about sassing Vader while she was still operating under the pretense of being a senator in good standing. I imagine that the Senate still wielded a great deal of power and its members enjoyed a certain measure of immunity from the likes of Vader so long as they didn't cross too many lines.

Even his own aide thought Vader was nuts to take Leia prisoner and it's similarly noteworthy that he had no qualms about saying so either.  And not only did Vader tolerate it, he even heeded his aide's warning and fabricated a cover story to prevent the Senate from finding out about it.

Edited by Pale Rider, 21 July 2019 - 09:50 AM.

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 11:55 AM

I distinctly remember one of the official licensed guidebooks from around 1997 called Vader the supreme commander of the Imperial military. That didn't really mesh with Tarkin bossing him around.

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 12:28 PM

I had an official guidebook from that year which called it the Imperial Empire.

#507 Pale Rider

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 12:30 PM

The old EU had a funny habit of doing that sort of thing.

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 09:52 PM

Governor Tarkin had political as well as military offices. That allowed him a bit more power above Vader. After ANH, there was no more Senate, and the Rebellion was a threat that allowed for "special powers" that superseded any local political consideration.

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 10:20 PM

It's also noteworthy that Leia had no qualms about sassing Vader while she was still operating under the pretense of being a senator in good standing.

To be fair, it's Leia. Sass is her primary language.

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Posted 22 July 2019 - 02:49 PM

She's a Skywalker.  The day they're not sassing is the day their being put on their funeral pyre.


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