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@  unluckiness : (18 June 2019 - 12:48 AM)

I see, so what the world needs is a Tommy Wiseau streaming service.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 June 2019 - 11:02 PM)

Well, Conan did start the trend that resulted in a wave of Barbarian films in the mid to late 80s

@  MEDdMI : (17 June 2019 - 10:57 PM)

I keep wanting to read Corman as Conan

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 June 2019 - 10:29 PM)

There needs to be some streaming service that caters to connoisseurs of schlock. Otherwise, a huge part of our cultural history will be wiped away. While many of these films are available on blu-ray, with more coming out each month, it's good they're also available for the streaming crowd.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 June 2019 - 10:18 PM)

Corman did make an impressive number of barbarian films back in the day. If impressive is the word

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 June 2019 - 08:11 PM)

I mean, where else are you going to see the entire Roger Corman barbarian fantasy library (legally) for free?

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 June 2019 - 08:09 PM)

Oh Tubi TV, you are a haven for terrible films. Netflix, Hulu and Crackle all push for mainstream appeal and prestige, you got the guts to have ready access to dregs even the SyFy channel wouldn't air

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 June 2019 - 01:33 PM)

Also you have Bayonetta and a bunch of Fire Emblem people.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 June 2019 - 01:33 PM)

...I mean, Tales character. Probably up to/for it.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 June 2019 - 01:26 PM)

But what if I need to kill a god? Or several of them?

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 June 2019 - 11:25 AM)

Kratos is allowed, but only the one from Tales of Symphonia

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 June 2019 - 10:56 AM)

So no Kratos?

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 June 2019 - 10:42 AM)

In any case I'd rather have another Fire Emblem character than another character from a PlayStation exclusive game who teeeeeechnically was in a spinoff.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 June 2019 - 10:39 AM)

Kong had his name on the games first, but Mario was the protagonist first. It's debatable.

@  Rycochet : (17 June 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Wouldn't Mario be the one spun off from the Donkey Kong franchise, given that Kong was first?

@  Pennpenn : (17 June 2019 - 05:19 AM)

I would count Wario and Yoshi, but not DK (might be because I wasn't even aware DK was spun off from the Mario franchise until I was in my mid-20s, but whatever)

@  unluckiness : (17 June 2019 - 04:13 AM)

But to be fair, Corrin is the only one I particularly dislike and it's really more boredom due to their blandness as characters

@  unluckiness : (17 June 2019 - 04:09 AM)

It would depend on whether or not you count DK, Wario and Yoshi as part of the Mario franchise or separate. Scratch that, there are more Mario characters even with just the mushroom symbol people but it's a close call.

@  Pennpenn : (17 June 2019 - 02:55 AM)

You'd figure Fire Emblem would have enough characters in Smash. Kinda feels like there's more FE characters than Mario characters.

@  unluckiness : (16 June 2019 - 01:20 AM)

And for hug's sake, I hope that the new Fire Emblem's PC isn't one of the DLC

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 June 2019 - 04:11 PM)

Smash Bros could never touch a new franchise again, and I'd still have laundry lists of side characters and villains I'd love to see included.

@  unluckiness : (15 June 2019 - 09:36 AM)

DINNER

@  SG Roadbuster : (15 June 2019 - 09:36 AM)

cuz i wanna fight a boat

@  SG Roadbuster : (15 June 2019 - 09:35 AM)

if we must have another zelda character, id want the king of red lion

@  MEDdMI : (14 June 2019 - 10:38 PM)

I would unironically love Tingle in Smash.

@  Paladin : (14 June 2019 - 02:06 PM)

they HAVE to put Travis Touchdown in at some point now, right???

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 June 2019 - 01:24 PM)

Right after Shaq.

@  Locoman : (14 June 2019 - 12:36 PM)

When will we get Bluster Kong in Smash?

@  unluckiness : (14 June 2019 - 08:20 AM)

The last three DLC characters are Tingle, Charles Barkley and L Tetris block with Reverse L Tetris block as an Echo fighter.

@  MEDdMI : (14 June 2019 - 08:09 AM)

Pipe dream Smash entry: The Prince from the Katamari series. :D

@  MEDdMI : (14 June 2019 - 06:35 AM)

The space/time around them gets frozen too! ....or something.

@  unluckiness : (14 June 2019 - 06:01 AM)

I still want to find out how freezing people suspends them in midair

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 June 2019 - 02:45 AM)

We really need Subzero or Scorpion in Smash. Violence aside, they are pretty big gaming icons as well.

@  Steevy Maximus : (13 June 2019 - 08:18 PM)

Given Nintendo's relationship with Tecmo, I'm still waiting for Ryu Hyabusa

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 June 2019 - 07:19 PM)

I'm still waiting for Doomguy.

@  Steevy Maximus : (13 June 2019 - 06:47 PM)

I just started watching High School DxD (don't judge me...) and I caught on the Nintendo Treehouse some request Rias for Smash lol

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 June 2019 - 11:25 AM)

I have having to watch a video to find out why someone wanted me to watch the video

@  Nevermore : (11 June 2019 - 04:58 PM)

I remember when the TPB for The Dark Age 2 was delayed for an entire year...

@  Trpodeca : (11 June 2019 - 03:55 AM)

I just wish they'd release the Astro City paperback trades.

@  Nevermore : (10 June 2019 - 05:31 AM)

As an open-minded heterosexual, I wouldn't mind seeing more of that.

@  Nevermore : (10 June 2019 - 05:29 AM)

Currently in the process of re-reading Kurt Busiek's Astro City. Big props for the issue featuring the "Dancing Master" and its portrayal of non-stereotypical gay characters.

@  TM2-Megatron : (10 June 2019 - 05:25 AM)

Don't phone charges often contain special rapid charge circuitry, though? The voltage might be higher too, given the selfie stick probably has a very basic battery.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (09 June 2019 - 11:28 PM)

Glad to be of assistance!

@  Telly : (09 June 2019 - 10:32 PM)

*checks selfie stick and phone charger* huh. perfect fit. thanks!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (09 June 2019 - 09:58 PM)

I would use the USB-to-AC adapter that came with my iPhone, though I gather you must have a different brand of cell phone.

@  TM2-Megatron : (09 June 2019 - 05:42 PM)

In that case a generic adapter is probably your best bet, then. Keep in mind a lot of hotels now have plain USB outlets in rooms too, though; but I guess that's not guaranteed

@  Telly : (09 June 2019 - 05:31 PM)

yeah, i just need something small to plug into the wall. im not sure im taking my laptop on my trip later this year and i want a way to charge my stuff

@  TM2-Megatron : (09 June 2019 - 05:04 PM)

They also have wall outlets with built-in USB in addition to the two regular plugs; I installed those around my place so I have USB ports everywhere

@  TM2-Megatron : (09 June 2019 - 05:02 PM)

You might be able to get a generic adapter to use with it at Radio Shack if you know the appropriate voltages or whatever

@  TM2-Megatron : (09 June 2019 - 05:01 PM)

It came with a USB cable with no AC adapter? A lot of lower priced electronics do that, presumably assuming that USB is pretty ubiquitous


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Star Wars General Discussion - What will the future of the franchise look like?


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#341 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 28 March 2019 - 06:24 PM

Man so many down on the sequel trilogy. I get that the movies are polarizing but are they really the worst that's come out? I still think the prequels are still there for me.


The sequels are great. Prequels less so. I've probably posted this before. But Star Wars rated IMO:

-Best Star War-
Empire Strikes Back - 100
Star Wars - 100
Last Jedi - 099
Force Awakens - 098
KotOR (Bioware) - 097
Return of the Jedi - 095
Solo - 095
SW: Rebels - 094

-Ok, But not my personal Fav-
SW: Clone Wars - 085
Rogue One - 080
Resistance (S1) - 075

-Really should have been better-
Phantom Menace - 057
Attack of the Clones - 048
Revenge of the Sith - 046
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Posted 28 March 2019 - 07:06 PM

Man so many down on the sequel trilogy. I get that the movies are polarizing but are they really the worst that's come out? I still think the prequels are still there for me.

 

Considering the fact the sequels pretty much undo everything established by the original saga, then the prequels look superior by far, I liked ep7 but I hate ep 8, its badly written and its pretty much a SLOW chase through space with a side quest to a casino planet to get a single man who can do the job that a Astromech can do, then there is the whole attack on the rebel base which ends up making no sense in the end because the character of Rose, goes on about something about love, yet she just cost the resistance a large fortress when Flin could of stopped the machine meant to break the walls by giving his life and yet the First Order do nothing.

 

Ep 8 is a mess start to finish, a large chunk felt like it was ripped off from Battlestar Galatica 2003, the end result of the film was another Legacy character dead, with no meaning or reason given, Rey being so powerful she needs no training, the reveals for her character, gone to waste! Snoke, the chief bad guy, dead and no origins story for him, so in the end, Ep 8 gives one nothing of real meaning its a poorly constructed story, the only good thing is the CGI and the Wookie. I generally have little hope for Ep9 to answer people's questions and wrap up the sequel trilogy with a desent conclusion, I expect it will take far less than Last Jedi when it comes to the box office and the critics will likely sing songs and dance like its the best thing since sliced bread because they want to retain their access media passes with Disney, just as they done with the latest Marvel film.


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Posted 28 March 2019 - 08:44 PM

Regardless of quality, the Prequels gave me stuff to actually look forward to. Anakin's fall, Palpatine's machinations, clone wars, robots and monsters and bizarre alien worlds, and even simply seeing Jedi in their prime. "Yoda fights someone" was a major selling point back then (even if the one in AotC ended up being a bit goofy). It also helps that they had that cartoon to hype up Ep III.

 

 

The Sequels so far have just felt like bad remakes of the OT that seem hellbent on yanking out what few potential hooks there were. I mean, the apparent Knights of Ren are sorta interesting, as is gun-toting C-3PO, but I just do not give a damn about whatever happens to Kylo or Rey or the Galaxy as a whole. Ex-Stormtrooper Finn wielding a lightsaber with no force abilities was hella exciting, but that looks to be completely abandoned now.



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Posted 29 March 2019 - 02:36 PM

I still don't feel comfortable giving a simple answer to whether the prequels or sequels are better. I really think it depends on how you define "better".

 

As movies, absolutely I think you have to say the sequels are better. They're good, well-shot, well-directed, well-acted movies. On pretty much every technical level, aside from maybe the music, I feel comfortable calling them better than the prequels. I can understand why critics like them.

 

As part of the Star Wars saga, I go the other way. The prequels weren't great movies, but they always absolutely felt like Star Wars movies to me. I wish Lucas had had someone else polish the script and take over directing to get better performances out of the actors. But otherwise, they feel like they fit with the OT to me. Sure, there are a few inconsistencies here and there, but I'm generally able to accept a few inconsistencies, be they between trilogies, between movies, or even between scenes within a movie. The ST though... To me, it really feels like someone else coming in and playing in somebody else's sandbox without following the rules that were already established. And while breaking old rules can absolutely be a great way to break an old status quo and improve the product, a lot of these issues don't feel like the good type of rule breaking to me. As much as I can accept them as good movies, they really rub me the wrong way. TLJ more so than TFA, but even TFA had a few things that just felt off to me.

 

I used to be absolutely enamored with Star Wars. I read all the novels, played all the games, tried to get most of the comics, etc. I have no artistic talent, but used to waste hours upon hours drawing Star Wars stuff in Paint. In my high school programming class, we had an assignment to write a program in BASIC that would make an animation on screen. I wasted hours plotting out points to have the computer draw a TIE fighter line by line and have it swoop across the screen, only to have it be too complicated for the computer to do it in real time. Had to settle for just drawing the ship once and animating stars streaking by.

 

The point is, I used to be really, really passionate about the franchise. Now, I still haven't even bothered to watch Solo on Netflix. I still absolutely love a lot of it, but that passion is completely gone. It certainly didn't start with the ST. It was really the post-NJO EU that killed a lot of my interest. But for as much as TFA toyed with reigniting it, TLJ completely killed any enthusiasm I had left. I'm not sure if I'm an unintended casualty, an acceptable loss, or an intentionally jettisoned burden to open up the franchise to new audiences. I just know that I'm not buying into what Disney is selling. I still hold out hope that Episode IX might turn things around, but I'm not optimistic.



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Posted 29 March 2019 - 03:23 PM

I am looking forward to Episode IX, but right now my attention is really focused on Avengers Endgame, just by virtue of it coming out in less then a month.

 

What I am not looking forward to is the constant whining from people about how much they hate the movie every chance they can get for years and years after it is done.



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Posted 29 March 2019 - 04:48 PM

I'm not sure if I'm an unintended casualty, an acceptable loss, or an intentionally jettisoned burden to open up the franchise to new audiences.

 

if youre a white dude (or even an old white dude), youre an acceptable loss that was intentionally jettisoned to open the franchise to a new sjw audience


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#347 Confuzor

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Posted 29 March 2019 - 05:14 PM

...wow

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Posted 29 March 2019 - 05:37 PM

 

I'm not sure if I'm an unintended casualty, an acceptable loss, or an intentionally jettisoned burden to open up the franchise to new audiences.

 

if youre a white dude (or even an old white dude), youre an acceptable loss that was intentionally jettisoned to open the franchise to a new sjw audience

 

 

*jaw drop*

 

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Posted 29 March 2019 - 11:21 PM

Your sacrifice will be honored, pasty masculine forebears. *Preoders seats and popcorn for Episode IX*

(But for real Episode IX isn't quite 'real' enough yet for me to be hyped. I'm sure the trailers will do the job once they premiere tho...)

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Posted 30 March 2019 - 03:19 PM

Your sacrifice will be honored, pasty masculine forebears. *Preoders seats and popcorn for Episode IX*

(But for real Episode IX isn't quite 'real' enough yet for me to be hyped. I'm sure the trailers will do the job once they premiere tho...)

 

If they ever get them out the door, they should of had a teaser by now but nope, its been kind of quiet, but then again they got a uphill battle with the story that been left in a right mess by the previous movie!


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#351 chiasaur11

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 01:08 AM

 

I'm not sure if I'm an unintended casualty, an acceptable loss, or an intentionally jettisoned burden to open up the franchise to new audiences.

 

if youre a white dude (or even an old white dude), youre an acceptable loss that was intentionally jettisoned to open the franchise to a new sjw audience

 

 

I'm not sure about jettisoned. It's quite possible that they were just taken as a given. The audience who will pay you no matter how much you piss them off, letting you put the actual effort into appealing to new audiences. 

 

That said... yeah. I wouldn't have used those terms, but it's not unknown for a company to reject its existing audience in hopes of picking up a "better" one, and it seems to have been the case here.

 

And, as is usually the case, it didn't pay off.  The Last Jedi made hundreds of millions of dollars less than projected, the merchandise hasn't been moving, and Solo was an active bomb. Like the dog and its reflection, trying to grab more wound up losing everything. And since Disney was betting heavily on this sequel era, that's a hard crash to correct. In one movie they managed to turn Star Wars from their crown jewel sure winner to, at best, just another valuable property, and possibly not even that depending on how 9 turns out.

 

(Also, it is incredibly petty of me, but I'm going to laugh and laugh when Last Jedi is retconned to heck and back in the next Star Wars, and Last Jedi fans are split between cognitive dissonencing themselves into explaining why the double subversion is even better or whining that their film's stomping all over the Force Awakens is getting stomped on itself.)




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Posted 31 March 2019 - 01:42 AM

 

Your sacrifice will be honored, pasty masculine forebears. *Preoders seats and popcorn for Episode IX*

(But for real Episode IX isn't quite 'real' enough yet for me to be hyped. I'm sure the trailers will do the job once they premiere tho...)

 

If they ever get them out the door, they should of had a teaser by now but nope, its been kind of quiet, but then again they got a uphill battle with the story that been left in a right mess by the previous movie!

 

Actually the release date for the trailer is pretty apparent. SW Celebration Chicago is April 11th to the 15th. Kind of a no brainier to wait for the biggest SW convention to drop what will be the biggest SW news for the year in that time frame. We'll proboably get trailers and first looks at everything that weekend from Ep IX, Resistance, a tad bit more of the remainder of Clone Wars, and the Mandolorian with possible announcements of future projects to come.


Edited by Daith, 31 March 2019 - 01:45 AM.


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Posted 31 March 2019 - 03:20 AM

At the moment I'm seeing episode 9 out of habit. Little to nothing of the Disney era has spoken to me and whilst I don't hate TLJ, I do hate that Star Wars is now the latest battleground between masculine obsessed throwbacks and "it's not for you, you've had your time!" progressives.
The whole point of the Star Wars story was finding balance and that message has escaped both sides.

To be honest, TLJ biggest sin for me is making space battles boring. Johnson does not understand space battles at all. He seems to think they're naval battles, you just can't see the water. And that hurts given Star Wars is famous for defining space battles.

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 02:08 PM

I didn't know that just having women and non whites in a movie meant pissing off or "jettisoning" your existing vanilla Straight White Male audience. Learn something new every day!

I mean, geez. I hardly ever see anyone that looks like me in movies. Let alone in a positive or staring role. Yet somehow I've still managed to enjoy movies. If I can do it, then you can make it through an Asian women being on screen for a few minutes in your space movie.

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 03:11 PM

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:55 PM

The constant dismissal of anyone who dared to not like TLJ as being racist and/or misogynistic is honestly much more frustrating than anything having to do with the movie itself. I get that there are absolutely racist and misogynistic people out there who hated TLJ and are very vocal about it. And I acknowledge that there were several more posts after mine, and WLG3's post is not a direct reply to me. But it still has my choice of word directly quoted and referenced as being part of that garbage, none of which has anything to do with anything I had to say.

 

I don't know why the ST has attracted so many of both the people who hate the prominence of women and people of color and the people who lump any and all critics of the movies in with those people, but the fact that it keeps coming up every time the movie is discussed continues to kill off any latent interest I have in the franchise by association. Just talking about the saga is a negative experience at this point. I don't know why I keep making the mistake of thinking this time will be any different.



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Posted 01 April 2019 - 04:55 PM

For what it's worth, the jettisoning I was referencing was in regards to the poster claiming that white dudes were the ones being jettisoned and not to you.

There's a big difference between not liking TLJ and feeling pushed away from the franchise due to how Luke was handled (or something like that), and thinking that Disney was trying to chase away white dudes by having woms and POC in the movie. The first isn't any kind of -ism, but the latter most certainly is.

And if the idea was that Disney is jettisoning white dudes in particular by having Luke be sad and not because of having increased representation, then... I honestly have no idea what kind of logic can get someone to that conclusion.

Edited by WLG3, 01 April 2019 - 05:02 PM.


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Posted 01 April 2019 - 05:59 PM

Understood and appreciated. Likewise, my frustration wasn't specifically targeted at you or limited to this latest conversation. It's just a repetitive thing with this movie. It seems like every single conversation about it ends up going that direction sooner or later. When you can't have a civil discussion, or even read a civil discussion, about it, it just saps so much of the fun away from it. You can overcome it if it's about something you like. But when you're on the fence to begin with, for me at least, it just kills whatever enthusiasm I may have.



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Posted 01 April 2019 - 07:36 PM

Exatron, I get your frustration. I have a handful of friends who didn't like TLJ for their own reasons that are nowhere near racist or sexist and I always get uncomfortable when people generalize the bad ones along my friends.

In general I'm really sick of this whole cloud hanging over the franchise. It seems like any time anything Star Wars comes up ANYWHERE it very quickly devolves into us vs them comments. Like, can't we just move forward and just enjoy things again? Does everything have to grind to a screeching halt every time, EVERY TIME?!

Edited by Confuzor, 01 April 2019 - 07:43 PM.


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Posted 01 April 2019 - 08:31 PM

The constant dismissal of anyone who dared to not like TLJ as being racist and/or misogynistic is honestly much more frustrating than anything having to do with the movie itself. I get that there are absolutely racist and misogynistic people out there who hated TLJ and are very vocal about it.

 

Maybe that is a smokescreen so people won't be able to talk about the actual flaws of the movie.





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