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@  unluckiness : (16 June 2019 - 01:20 AM)

And for hug's sake, I hope that the new Fire Emblem's PC isn't one of the DLC

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 June 2019 - 04:11 PM)

Smash Bros could never touch a new franchise again, and I'd still have laundry lists of side characters and villains I'd love to see included.

@  unluckiness : (15 June 2019 - 09:36 AM)


@  SG Roadbuster : (15 June 2019 - 09:36 AM)

cuz i wanna fight a boat

@  SG Roadbuster : (15 June 2019 - 09:35 AM)

if we must have another zelda character, id want the king of red lion

@  MEDdMI : (14 June 2019 - 10:38 PM)

I would unironically love Tingle in Smash.

@  Paladin : (14 June 2019 - 02:06 PM)

they HAVE to put Travis Touchdown in at some point now, right???

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 June 2019 - 01:24 PM)

Right after Shaq.

@  Locoman : (14 June 2019 - 12:36 PM)

When will we get Bluster Kong in Smash?

@  unluckiness : (14 June 2019 - 08:20 AM)

The last three DLC characters are Tingle, Charles Barkley and L Tetris block with Reverse L Tetris block as an Echo fighter.

@  MEDdMI : (14 June 2019 - 08:09 AM)

Pipe dream Smash entry: The Prince from the Katamari series. :D

@  MEDdMI : (14 June 2019 - 06:35 AM)

The space/time around them gets frozen too! ....or something.

@  unluckiness : (14 June 2019 - 06:01 AM)

I still want to find out how freezing people suspends them in midair

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 June 2019 - 02:45 AM)

We really need Subzero or Scorpion in Smash. Violence aside, they are pretty big gaming icons as well.

@  Steevy Maximus : (13 June 2019 - 08:18 PM)

Given Nintendo's relationship with Tecmo, I'm still waiting for Ryu Hyabusa

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 June 2019 - 07:19 PM)

I'm still waiting for Doomguy.

@  Steevy Maximus : (13 June 2019 - 06:47 PM)

I just started watching High School DxD (don't judge me...) and I caught on the Nintendo Treehouse some request Rias for Smash lol

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 June 2019 - 11:25 AM)

I have having to watch a video to find out why someone wanted me to watch the video

@  Nevermore : (11 June 2019 - 04:58 PM)

I remember when the TPB for The Dark Age 2 was delayed for an entire year...

@  Trpodeca : (11 June 2019 - 03:55 AM)

I just wish they'd release the Astro City paperback trades.

@  Nevermore : (10 June 2019 - 05:31 AM)

As an open-minded heterosexual, I wouldn't mind seeing more of that.

@  Nevermore : (10 June 2019 - 05:29 AM)

Currently in the process of re-reading Kurt Busiek's Astro City. Big props for the issue featuring the "Dancing Master" and its portrayal of non-stereotypical gay characters.

@  TM2-Megatron : (10 June 2019 - 05:25 AM)

Don't phone charges often contain special rapid charge circuitry, though? The voltage might be higher too, given the selfie stick probably has a very basic battery.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (09 June 2019 - 11:28 PM)

Glad to be of assistance!

@  Telly : (09 June 2019 - 10:32 PM)

*checks selfie stick and phone charger* huh. perfect fit. thanks!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (09 June 2019 - 09:58 PM)

I would use the USB-to-AC adapter that came with my iPhone, though I gather you must have a different brand of cell phone.

@  TM2-Megatron : (09 June 2019 - 05:42 PM)

In that case a generic adapter is probably your best bet, then. Keep in mind a lot of hotels now have plain USB outlets in rooms too, though; but I guess that's not guaranteed

@  Telly : (09 June 2019 - 05:31 PM)

yeah, i just need something small to plug into the wall. im not sure im taking my laptop on my trip later this year and i want a way to charge my stuff

@  TM2-Megatron : (09 June 2019 - 05:04 PM)

They also have wall outlets with built-in USB in addition to the two regular plugs; I installed those around my place so I have USB ports everywhere

@  TM2-Megatron : (09 June 2019 - 05:02 PM)

You might be able to get a generic adapter to use with it at Radio Shack if you know the appropriate voltages or whatever

@  TM2-Megatron : (09 June 2019 - 05:01 PM)

It came with a USB cable with no AC adapter? A lot of lower priced electronics do that, presumably assuming that USB is pretty ubiquitous

@  TM2-Megatron : (09 June 2019 - 05:00 PM)

Yeah, must be, I guess.

@  Telly : (09 June 2019 - 04:59 PM)

maybe having bluetooth has something to do with it?

@  Telly : (09 June 2019 - 04:58 PM)

the one i got has an on/off button, and came with a usb to attach to my laptop to charge it. its this one https://www.walmart....ility/432985497

@  TM2-Megatron : (09 June 2019 - 04:51 PM)

Selfie sticks have power? I thought they were to just hold the phone away from you

@  Telly : (09 June 2019 - 04:44 PM)

need some technical help.how do i charge my selfie stick without using my laptop? is there some kind of portable charger? i know it sounds like a dumb question, but i dont know very much about this stuff

@  MEDdMI : (08 June 2019 - 06:58 PM)

Different songs or overdosing don't work for me. My brain can play multiple songs at once. Best to do something else to distract me.

@  Xellos : (08 June 2019 - 05:36 PM)

Still, the worst is having the last song I hear before going into work being stuck in my head all day.

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 June 2019 - 05:00 PM)

Get a different song stuck in your head too. Let them battle for supremacy. Only the strong survive.

@  Nevermore : (08 June 2019 - 03:53 PM)

Keep listening to it over and over until you got the lyrics memorized. By that point, it will start to fade out of your system.

@  Nevermore : (08 June 2019 - 02:48 PM)

I've discovered the easiest cure for having a song stuck in your head is overdosing to the point of fatigue.

@  Steevy Maximus : (08 June 2019 - 12:27 PM)

Jedi Fallen Order sure does look a LOT like a Souls style game with Star Wars flavoring

@  Kalidor : (07 June 2019 - 06:18 PM)

I have a hard time believing that you speaking at length and with great detail is something you wouldn't be good at. Glad you had fun.

@  Nevermore : (07 June 2019 - 02:51 PM)

Funny thing is I wasn't nervous at all. Might have helped that I was able to speak freely due to having assembled my speech from a lot of smaller segments I had previously told to my colleagues on the shopfloor, with a few punchlines added.

@  Nevermore : (07 June 2019 - 02:49 PM)

Allegedly I did well. Lots of applause, and was told I was leagues beyond the guy who spoke before me (though that wasn't difficult, that guy was dry as a river on Mars).

@  Nevermore : (07 June 2019 - 02:48 PM)

So I volunteered to hold a small speech at our strike assembly today (lots of Amazon employees, plus some people from IKEA, Smyths toys and some other local retailers).

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 June 2019 - 01:17 PM)

Today Dolly the Sheep and Super Salmon, tomorrow Neo Sapiens. We're through the looking glass people.

@  Kalidor : (07 June 2019 - 12:55 PM)

Happy birthday @Pinkcolliebot

@  Pinkcolliebot : (07 June 2019 - 12:03 PM)

Today's My Birthday!!!

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 June 2019 - 03:16 AM)

Think how many copies of Optimus Prime's brain could fit on that.

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Star Wars General Discussion - What will the future of the franchise look like?

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#281 Cybersnark


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Posted 27 February 2019 - 10:38 AM

Yeah, the need for ongoing conflict does not automatically mean that victory is meaningless --it just has to mean that the conflict is different.

So instead of a rag-tag Rebel Alliance against a galaxy-spanning Empire, now the heroes are a powerful Republic dealing with a rash of improbably well-organized pirates, or maybe a botched First Contact leading to war, or maybe a resurgence of the long-vanished Sith, or maybe a political schism trying to turn the government back toward fascism.

The problems with TFA stem from the fact that, if you filed the serial numbers off, it could be set 50 years earlier --the rising Empire's First Order's enforcer Darth Vader Kylo Ren is hunting down a Jedi who survived the purge destruction of his Academy, while the Rebellion Resistance tries to destroy the Death Star Starkiller.

In order to serve that set-up, everything had to be reset.

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 11:18 AM

Maybe I'm poorly remembering my early EU, but it wasn't exactly a "and the heroes lived happily ever after" story either.  They got, what, 5 years before Thrawn showed up? Then Luke starts the Academy on Yavin IV, has a student decide to murder a bunch of people, and then gets stuck in a weird force coma with Exar Kun.  That's not including stuff I've forgotten or the arrival of the Vong which murderized a good chunk of the galaxy (I think - I had dropped out by then). 


It wasn't exactly a happy universe.


It also didn't give us Luke Force-Haunting his Nephew, which better be a thing, Disney. It better


Let's see how much I remember:

The DAY AFTER the Battle of Endor, Luke leads a Rebellion/New Republic Fleet from an invasion from a race that sucked the force out of people to fuel their technology.


Couple years in, there was the Rogue Squadron stuff, but it steered clear of the "main people". 


Five years in, you get Thrawn. 

Next year is Dark Empire, with Palpatine returning in a clone body and Luke dabbling in the dark side

Next year is Jedi Academy.

After that is a couple MORE instances of Palpatine trying to return and possess Leia and Han's third child.


Then the Vong come and kill a bunch including Anakin Solo and Chewbacca.

Then Jacen Solo (Han and Leia's son) falls to the dark side after that conflict and murders Luke Skywalker's wife.  I kind of forget how it goes, but he ends up killed before he can establish his new empire.


Shit happens in life, especially for people so famous and instrumental to the direction of the galaxy.  Frankly, between the two, it's like how people complained that Beast Machines wasn't a "proper" sequel because it took characters in a direction fans didn't want them to.

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 12:07 PM

The Vong War canonically killed something like 14 trillion people, yet in the combined totality of 25 years of the EU the only "real" character who ever died was the unimportant and inhuman Chewbacca (yeah I said it, come at me). Now THAT, to me, is nihilism. No-stakes nobodies phoning it in against the threat of the week.

The ST was brave enough to show audiences what really happens when your life peaks at age 24.

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 12:31 PM

There's also a long run of YA books between Jedi Academy and NJO, in which Luke, Han, Leia, and Lando were happily settled into their adult lives while the younger generation got their formative adventures.

Also a scattering of smaller-scale "villain-of-the-year" novels involving Imperial warlords, scavenged superweapons, interstellar treasure hunts, small-scale wars between the Republic and neighbouring powers, and the gradual shrinking of the Imperial Remnant into an isolationist backwater.

Really, the EU didn't totally go grimdark until NJO, and I maintain that someone at the editorial level clearly conceived of NJO as a sort of "series finale" for the EU (anticipating a reboot driven by 90s Prequel-mania), then ended up having to "walk it back" when it became clear the EU wasn't ending.

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 01:36 PM

I don't think it was perfect but I'd take the old EU over the ST. It just makes more sense to say Endor was a critical victory for the rebels but they had to continue fighting Imperial remnants, balance shifting over the years. Meanwhile they made new friends, encountered new enemies, Luke continued to rebuild the Jedi and in time a new generation of heroes emerged.


That to me beats the pants off 'They founded a New Republic, completely forgot how the old one fell, Imperial loyalists slowly rebuilt their power, the new Jedi barely lasted and everything went to shit.'


Like I get the backstory for how the First Order emerged matches how the far right emerged in reality but...again, I don't come to Star Wars for a depressing 'true to life' story. Same reason I raise an eyebrow at Disney trying to insert real world gender politics. I come to Star Wars for escapist space swashbuckling. Brave heroes of all genders, evil villains, space battles, laser swords, etc.

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 03:41 PM

They could have borrowed the best elements from the EU to create a new story.  For all the garbage there were a lot of great stories--that's what I wanted from the sequel trilogy.  Build on what came before instead of pitching it into a bonfire and killing anything that remained.  

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 04:00 PM

I think what could have worked is something kind of a cross between the ST and the Thrawn trilogy.


It's been 30 years since the Battle of Endor and the deaths of Sidious and Vader. A New Republic was formed though the Imperial remnants continued on, holding several planets in a stalemate war. Luke founded a new Jedi order which has intervened in small scale conflicts but has stayed out of politics partly due to Luke wanting to learn from the fall of the old Jedi.


From out of nowhere, a new mastermind emerges to lead the the Imperial remnants. This figure unites the tattered forces and launches a blistering hit and run campaign against the Republic


A new war needs new heroes. With the galaxy once again in peril, hope comes to rest on a junker girl from Jakku, a fugitive former stormtrooper and an emerging ace pilot of the Republic military.

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 05:09 PM

I like that.



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Posted 28 February 2019 - 07:14 PM

One theme that I'd love to see as an overarching motif is the difference between "peace and justice" (as the Jedi serve, per Obi-Wan) and "law and order" (as all governments must serve, be they Republic or Empire). Law is not necessarily justice, and order is not necessarily peace, and Leia (the Senator), Han (the smuggler), and Luke (the Jedi) would each have very strong opinions on the subject --there's your wedge issue to drive between Han & Leia.

The raw material is already there in the Sequel Trilogy's makeup; the smaller, leaner New Republic lacking the resources to serve the Outer Rim, the First Order stepping in to "protect" people from roving bands of pirates and rogue nations --people (as we see in Resistance) eagerly embrace oppression because they think it means safety.

Maybe have the Resistance headed by Lando, as a sort of mirror-image of the First Order, both providing protection to those the Republic can't serve (for a modest fee, of course, because Lando).

Luke's Jedi are in isolation (Aich-to isn't a hermitage, it's the hidden Jedi Academy), Luke having experienced a (Prequel-inspired) epiphany; that the Jedi cannot be tied to any government for fear of becoming pawns as they did in the Old Republic. Luke's Jedi are not generals or diplomats, but wandering Kwai Chang Caine-like do-gooders, and there aren't more than a dozen or so across the whole galaxy.

That's how Kylo Ren ended up with the First Order --no one realizes that it's Ben under the mask, having gone rogue after buying into Snoke's rhetoric about bringing order to the galaxy.

The first movie is about Lando and Leia trying and failing to get the Republic to intervene; Lando convinces Han, Han convinces Leia, and Leia. . . finally comes up against a force that she can't move through shear force of will. Meanwhile, Lando's newest protege, a renegade stormtrooper, and a scavenger discover that there's a Dark Jedi running the First Order. Maybe Maz Kanata can be one of Luke's Jedi, who brings Rey with her to Luke's Academy, while Poe and Finn team up with Leia's volunteers to destroy the Starkiller.

The second movie is mainly about Rey on Aich-to, and Ben returning and having his final confrontation with his master as he reveals his dual identity and tries to recruit the other Jedi. Those who won't join him perish in fire, and Luke gets to have his Obi-Wan moment, buying time for Rey (and Maz?) to escape and join up with the Resistance.

The third movie can be about Han confronting his son (and the other Knights of Ren), and Rey destroying the First Order --still leaving a power vacuum in the Outer Rim, meaning there'll still be years or decades of work ahead of the young heroes, with only minimal support (i.e., periodic cameos) from the surviving oldsters.

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 10:55 PM

People have seen some of the new Star Wars Disney Parks. The Park's timeframe is et between 8 & 9.


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Posted 01 March 2019 - 01:17 AM

I must have Nerf Kabobs and Blue Milkshakes!


Actually the food they have shown looks nice. It's looking pretty awesome other than there only seems to be two real rides there. Everything else seems to be stores or ways to immerse yourself into the Galaxy not quite as Far, Far Away. Supposedly there will be full ensemble outfits to buy and wear in the park. I feel there is going to be confusion on who is and isn't staff there.


Also the return of build your own Lightsaber.


Also a new TIE variant, the TIE Echelon has been shown.

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Posted 01 March 2019 - 03:28 PM

Having been to the Avatar land I can say that 2 rides and a fully immersive area is really all you need. (Wizarding World in Universal parks confirms).

The gusts having immersive clothes is more along with the immersive hotel experience. But either way, all cast member will be wearing a themed nametag (with Aurebesh names under).

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Posted 01 March 2019 - 03:53 PM

I read some more about the upcoming park, I am going to be living there.


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Posted 01 March 2019 - 09:22 PM

Disney has also said that Galaxy's Edge is expandable, so they can add more stuff to it down the line.


I am just thrilled at the life like Hondo animatronic and the food options!

Edited by Monocle, 01 March 2019 - 09:32 PM.

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Posted 02 March 2019 - 06:52 AM

It's very...ST themed.

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Posted 27 March 2019 - 10:07 AM

some potential new artwork for Episode IX (including a possible poster) went online today.



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Posted 27 March 2019 - 10:30 AM

*clicks link*

*scrolls through article looking for picture*

*reads through article again looking for embedded link*


I guess we can just take CBR's word on this one.

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Posted 27 March 2019 - 10:56 AM

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Posted 27 March 2019 - 11:07 AM

The first Star Wars movie poster EVER to not have R2D2.

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Posted 27 March 2019 - 11:18 AM

The first Star Wars movie poster EVER to not have R2D2.

I would bet that's not true.

-ZacWilliam, there have been a hella-lot of SW posters.
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