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@  Nevermore : (15 December 2019 - 04:05 PM)

The music, if you'd even call it that, adds to the creepy atmosphere. Apparently it was recorded using sounds created in a real nuclear power plant of the same type as Chernobyl.

@  Nevermore : (15 December 2019 - 04:04 PM)

In case you haven't seen it yet, I highly recommend the HBO mini-series "Chernobyl", which is about, well, you know. It's very intense and not for the faint-heartet. I'd say it's more scary than any horror flick, because (despite some artistic liberties taken with the behavior of some of the characters, and the timeline for some events), it's eerily real.

@  Sabrblade : (15 December 2019 - 10:51 AM)

Hey, at least you baked a cake in the bathroom. Not many can attest to that. :p

@  wonko the sane? : (14 December 2019 - 05:51 PM)

Nope. Forgot entirely, had to make another trip.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 December 2019 - 04:04 PM)

Well, did you get water?

@  wonko the sane? : (14 December 2019 - 01:56 PM)

Went to the bathroom, shaved, baked a cake... wait, I only got up to get some water...

@  unluckiness : (14 December 2019 - 09:01 AM)

That's a common misconception. You see compared to the first run, it's a new mold.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (14 December 2019 - 03:27 AM)

Wouldn't that just add packaging authenticity? :D

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 December 2019 - 01:44 AM)

I read a anecdote of someone recently receiving a Glacialord with mold because apparently online stores' warehouses have been sitting on Fansproject products like that for years.

@  Rycochet : (13 December 2019 - 11:56 AM)

Unlike many of his peers, Morton diesn't seem to have gone out of his way to try and take every drug going so he's aged remarkably well.

@  Donocropolis : (13 December 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Doesn't seem to have been a market for it, which is too bad, because it perfectly does what it sets out to do.

@  Donocropolis : (13 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

Just opened it and suddenly I'm 9 years old again.

@  Donocropolis : (13 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

Bought myself Fansproject Glacialord for my birthday during their Black Friday sale.

@  Nevermore : (12 December 2019 - 07:45 PM)

Morten Harket of A-ha might have aged 35 years on the outside, but his voice is still pretty much the same as it was in 1984. That's some great training and exercise for you.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 December 2019 - 06:59 PM)

Depends entirely on how badly you cooked them. What?

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 December 2019 - 05:33 PM)

Can it raise the dead?

@  RichardT1977 : (12 December 2019 - 05:33 PM)

Cheddar can do just about anything.

@  RichardT1977 : (12 December 2019 - 05:32 PM)

Cream cheese has to be on a bagel or crackers.

@  RichardT1977 : (12 December 2019 - 05:31 PM)

(for example: I like Swiss cheese on sandwiches, but find it merely tolerable by itself)

@  RichardT1977 : (12 December 2019 - 05:30 PM)

I mean are you eating it by itself? With crackers? On a sandwich?

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 December 2019 - 04:48 PM)

I would ask, but I'd rather not know.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (12 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

With my mouth, usually.

@  RichardT1977 : (12 December 2019 - 08:48 AM)

Depends on how you're eating it.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (12 December 2019 - 01:40 AM)

Havarti, without a doubt.

@  Greebtron : (12 December 2019 - 01:28 AM)

Not Don, thanks. I'd like a writer who actually cares enough to do the job properly

@  Benbot : (11 December 2019 - 09:34 PM)

What's your favorite cheese? I'm not sure, but it's hard to beat muenster.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 December 2019 - 05:10 PM)

Man I wish IDW could do a season 2.5 with a few writers like Michael Charles Hill or Donald F Glut or Paul Davids involved.

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 December 2019 - 04:33 PM)

They were looking for Skids, but the animators forgot he existed again.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 December 2019 - 02:58 PM)

He regrouped with Omega Supreme, the Dinobots, Skyfire and the Protectobots.

@  Benbot : (11 December 2019 - 08:20 AM)

Did he get infected with the rest of the Autobots or did he smartly remain off-planet?

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 December 2019 - 05:38 AM)

He really just went to the beach for a couple of days, then called it in. Who's gonna follow up on it?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 December 2019 - 05:05 AM)

Anyone really believe Cosmos searched far enough for more ingredient for Corrostop?

@  Nevermore : (11 December 2019 - 03:48 AM)

Oh, we are pretty good at "forgetting" about that. Insisting on sending people home on their overtime, THEN suddenly rushing to do the "backlog" stuff when it's really overdue.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 December 2019 - 05:43 PM)

I've yet to find an organization which didn't have a backlog of "stuff" that needs to be done, but isn't important enough to put on the schedule proper.

@  TM2-Megatron : (10 December 2019 - 05:01 PM)

I'm sure most good/bad (depending on your POV) bosses would be able to find something for the worker to do, in most cases, even if it's spending 8 hours pretending to push a broom around

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 December 2019 - 04:39 PM)

Still better than American jobs. x.x;

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 December 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I'm pretty sure you've already mentioned this before. Especially that last one.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:05 AM)

That can be fun if you're strong-willed enough. "Hey, you want to go home? Overtime reduction, there's nothing to do..." - "Nah, not today. I want to work."

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:04 AM)

This applies to the field of work as well. Meaning, your boss orders you to show up for a full shift, you show up on time and are absolutely willing to work, and then your boss realizes he has no work for you, your boss has to pay you for a full shift even if you don't work at all.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:03 AM)

Fun fact: German law has a concept named "default in acceptance", which postulates that if there is a "service for payment" contract, the party that should provide the service correctly offers their due service, and the party that should pay fails to accept the service within due time, the second party still has to pay the first party even if there was no service delivered.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:54 PM)

If it's seasonal affective disorder, check with your doc about vitamin D supplements.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:46 PM)

That's what I was thinking too, It's the christmas rush and if that's not stressful enough the cold weather can also impact mental health.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 12:41 PM)

Might be a stupid question given the comment, BUT: have you done anything outside the ordinary lately? Might just be a stress reaction.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I've experienced sleep paralysis with ghostly images and similar things in the past and can snap out of it through moving my fingers. I've definitely hallucinated before and members of both sides of the family have had similar experience, some suffered forms of mental instability in two cases schizophrenia.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:47 AM)

So... either a hallucination or night terrors. Are you prone to this kind of thing?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:55 PM)

It kept repeating until I sat up.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:54 PM)

I've been up since three and when sheepish I was hallucinating something knocking twice against my bedroom door.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 December 2019 - 06:58 PM)

Then repaint Apeface and Snapdragon as Transmetal Optimus Primal and Megatron. It's crazy enough to work.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 December 2019 - 05:32 PM)

Moral imperative.

@  Nevermore : (07 December 2019 - 05:13 PM)

Wishful thinking, rumor or leak?


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Star Wars General Discussion - What will the future of the franchise look like?


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#241 HellCat

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 08:07 AM

Making it all a bit worse- these shorts are designed specifically to ease kids in the franchise. So someone decided "You know the central group of heroes and that sequence where they all met and bonded under fire? Change it. The guys are dead weight and Leia had to do everything."

 

Combine that with how the new films have shat on/killed the OT heroes.....Disney, the hell are you doing?



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Posted 24 February 2019 - 08:55 AM

The idea is to make the star of each short look as awesome as possible in their short. Yes, Leila's awesomeness is played up in hers, but so is Luke's in his, with hyper anime combat moves and Han's flying in his.

You can disagree with the fact that they reimagine the visuals of the movie in style and detail but it's pretty consistent in its use and execution: Pumping up each particular short's star in their personal short.


-ZacWilliam, some people are way too quick to imagine nefarious Disney motivations where obvious narrative ones are there. (And honestly anyone who thinks the new films haven't been absolute love letters to Luke, Han and Leia especially, are pretty blind imo)

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 09:05 AM

"Absolute love letters"?

 

The Republic they fought to revive fell apart because it couldn't believe Imperial remnants were a threat

Luke's revived Jedi order failed because he had too much pride in Ben as a Skywalker and freaked out when he saw a vision of him falling to the dark side.

This in turn caused Han and Leia to split, Han falling back into the life he'd escaped by the end of the OT

Luke spends all his time in hiding, bitterly believing the whole conflict he personally resolved was a waste of time.

Both Han and Luke have miserable, painful deaths due to Ben.

 

Where is the love letter approach? All I see is 'Everything from the OT was ultimately pointless, now it's on the Disney cast.'



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Posted 24 February 2019 - 02:29 PM

You keep harping on this "Disney's characters" as if it has to be OT characters all the time. Eventually new characters will have to be added to continue the story forward. The actors portraying Han, Luke and Leia are old and won't be up to the task much longer(RIP Carrie Fisher).

You can't really have a series called "Star Wars" with a galaxy at peace? Bad stuff has to go down to make things worth making a movie about. And if we're going to eke a bit more out of Luke, Leia and Han, shits gonna go bad for them.

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 02:57 PM

"Absolute love letters"?

 

The Republic they fought to revive fell apart because it couldn't believe Imperial remnants were a threat

Luke's revived Jedi order failed because he had too much pride in Ben as a Skywalker and freaked out when he saw a vision of him falling to the dark side.

This in turn caused Han and Leia to split, Han falling back into the life he'd escaped by the end of the OT

Luke spends all his time in hiding, bitterly believing the whole conflict he personally resolved was a waste of time.

Both Han and Luke have miserable, painful deaths due to Ben.

 

Where is the love letter approach? All I see is 'Everything from the OT was ultimately pointless, now it's on the Disney cast.'

 

This is what I've been saying from day one.  It baffled me when people proclaimed that Force Awakens "redeemed" Star Wars.  It's a competently shot film, but in terms of story it completely invalidates everything that our heroes accomplished in the original trilogy, making their lives and sacrifices meaningless.  How is that paying respect to Star Wars?  They went in to the new films as if it were a completely new story with no legacy behind it.  Sorry, JJ, but some things NEED to be explained--you can't just push the reset button.  I knew better, but I hoped maybe his mystery boxes might go somewhere and after all was said and done things might make a little sense, but there was no plan going forward.



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Posted 24 February 2019 - 03:25 PM

You keep harping on this "Disney's characters" as if it has to be OT characters all the time. Eventually new characters will have to be added to continue the story forward. The actors portraying Han, Luke and Leia are old and won't be up to the task much longer(RIP Carrie Fisher).

You can't really have a series called "Star Wars" with a galaxy at peace? Bad stuff has to go down to make things worth making a movie about. And if we're going to eke a bit more out of Luke, Leia and Han, shits gonna go bad for them.


Said it before- there was absolutely a way to make the new movies a passing of the torch without shitting on what had come before. Disney didn't go for it.

Disney went the way where everything in the previous 6 films and the OT in particular is pointless. The Empire was defeated? Nope! Luke returned the Jedi to prominence? Nope! Han escaped a life of crime and started a family with Leia? Nope!

Six films that are the heart of the franchise shat on so there could be these sequels. When Disney could have instead created a new conflict that emerged without invalidating the story thus far and likewise retired the original heroes with dignity.

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 04:24 PM

Millions of people struggled and suffered and sacrificed in World War 1. Twenty years later, World War 2 made it all worthless.

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 04:41 PM

Luke had a spectacular arc to his life more realistic, meaningful and moving than the dream of Super Jedi Lord. Mark Hamill hit that performance out of the park and he had great material to work from. Han was Han to the end but older and wiser. His last scene he was the inspiration and motivation of the next generation of heroes and villains. His final scene was heartbreaking in the best way and inspired the new generation and set them both on their path. I can't believe anyone could have a problem with Leia becoming the General she always was and fighting to save and inspire the Galaxy from new threats, and using the force in amazing ways.

Their fates are not "and they lived Happly Ever After. The End." Because things didn't end. The universe and life went on and there was 30 years of love, life and peace that they won. And after 30 years new threats arose that had to be fought and new sacrifices made to stop them and new Heroes inspired by the old rising up to meet them.

The sequel Trillogy has been absolutely wonderful and downright reverent to those old characters by keeping them at the core of the story, letting them live and change and fight and triumph and die being heroes, because that what heroes do and what they should do.

-ZacWilliam, Disney's been doing a wonderful job with the sequels, by far some of my favorite SW stuff and I grew up loving the first three dearly. Empire Strikes Back has been my favorite film of any sort basically my whole life. Last Jedi easily joined it in my Top three favorite SW things ever.

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 05:54 PM

I mean, I can kinda see both sides.

Yes, the New Trilogy did a good job of continuing the story of the Heroes of Yavin and making them integral to the next generation, but I agree that the way they did it wasn't the only, or maybe even the best, way to do that.

Personally, even without knowing that Carrie Fisher would be leaving us, I would've made the first of the new movies her movie --her role in the fate of the galaxy has always been bigger than Han or Luke's. Show us a functioning New Republic, with Leia on the inside convinced that her life's work has successfully restored peace and justice to the galaxy --right up until Han (with Rey, Finn, and Poe) comes back into her life, warning her about the First Order. Leia, being Leia, tries to mobilize the Republic to help the people of the Outer Rim, but the New Republic proves to be as bureaucratic and hidebound as the Old. Leia is left with no choice but to go off-the-books, assembling a crew of volunteers.

Meanwhile, Ben is still at Luke's Academy (along with the tiny handful of Force-sensitives that Luke has been able to convince to join him), and we actually get to see his fall to the Dark Side and the cataclysm that destroys the Academy.

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 06:09 PM

I mean, I can kinda see both sides.

Yes, the New Trilogy did a good job of continuing the story of the Heroes of Yavin and making them integral to the next generation, but I agree that the way they did it wasn't the only, or maybe even the best, way to do that.

Personally, even without knowing that Carrie Fisher would be leaving us, I would've made the first of the new movies her movie --her role in the fate of the galaxy has always been bigger than Han or Luke's. Show us a functioning New Republic, with Leia on the inside convinced that her life's work has successfully restored peace and justice to the galaxy --right up until Han (with Rey, Finn, and Poe) comes back into her life, warning her about the First Order. Leia, being Leia, tries to mobilize the Republic to help the people of the Outer Rim, but the New Republic proves to be as bureaucratic and hidebound as the Old. Leia is left with no choice but to go off-the-books, assembling a crew of volunteers.

Meanwhile, Ben is still at Luke's Academy (along with the tiny handful of Force-sensitives that Luke has been able to convince to join him), and we actually get to see his fall to the Dark Side and the cataclysm that destroys the Academy.

 

That sounds like a desent basic plot for a TV show than Resistance, hell, I got no idea what Resistance is meant to be about aside from some newbie who meant to find a first order spy, then again I was turned off by the animation style, it just says "this is horrible and cheep!" I not even tried to watch it, those shorts using the voices from the original saga I've been watching, those are enjoyable and funny to watch, I know a storm brewed up over the prison break scene from New Hope, mainly how Leia is depicted, all I saw was the animators attempting to make the scene a bit more funnier.


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Posted 24 February 2019 - 06:28 PM

The worst thing Disney's done is get the original cast back together but not have them reunite on screen. That's like, I dunno, finding Wonka's Golden Ticket and tossing it into the fire, right in front of the news reporters and Slugworth.



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Posted 24 February 2019 - 06:40 PM

IMO the "worst thing" was not letting Han & Leia be happy for while longer.

 

TFA is, what 30 years later? Ben was born 5 years after ROTJ (last I checked).  He turned as a teenager (I think).  So Han & Leia got maybe 10-15 years before everything fell apart.  That... bugs me.

 

I do think that Leia should have been "First," but I think the way they were working towards IX made sense.  Luke's story was all about his father.  Ben's story would have been all about his mother. I'm super disappointed we won't get that kind of closure.

 

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 08:40 PM

IMO the "worst thing" was not letting Han & Leia be happy for while longer.
 
TFA is, what 30 years later? Ben was born 5 years after ROTJ (last I checked).  He turned as a teenager (I think).  So Han & Leia got maybe 10-15 years before everything fell apart.  That... bugs me.
 

If Ben was born 5 years after the OT and he turned as a teenager, then they had more like 20 years together before splitting, right?

At least, I assumed that they split when Ben turned to the dark side, not when he first started his Jedi training, though maybe I'm wrong about that?

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 08:50 PM

Yeah, I guess.  I'm not sure Disney has been that concrete on the Kylo Ren timeline.  Just when he was born... "and then things happened."

 

I'm not sure Han & Leia were ever given a happy period, at least going by the last time I looked it up.  Leia's life was already kind of a mess following ROTJ, what with the whole "Vader's Daughter" thing.  Then Ben.

 

And I guess the films aren't that clear when Han left, either.  Just after what happened at Luke's Academy, but, I dunno.  Maybe they got some good years.

 

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 11:29 PM

Millions of people struggled and suffered and sacrificed in World War 1. Twenty years later, World War 2 made it all worthless.


Way to mis s the point. "Here's a real conflict where real people died. Your concerns about space wizard fiction are invalid. "

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 02:25 AM

I don't consider myself to have a horse in this specific race but if we're starting this from "in a thing designed to specifically showcase Leia, they made Leia the cool one"... I'm not seeing that as a particularly compelling complaint.

But I haven't seen this thing and I'm not terribly invested in the OT stuff, so... my vote has little weight.

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 02:26 PM

Millions of people struggled and suffered and sacrificed in World War 1. Twenty years later, World War 2 made it all worthless.


I was going to post this exact analogy.
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Posted 25 February 2019 - 04:40 PM

Can we please not? It's in bad taste.

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 06:41 PM

This is funny to watch and listen to:

 


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Posted 25 February 2019 - 10:55 PM

Can we please not? It's in bad taste.


....how?

The sequels are entirely believable precisely because there is no "happily ever after." In 30 years the loving couple gets divorced, an idealistic boy turns disillusioned and regretful in middle age, and Neo-Nazis get mainstreamed. That's not "shitting" on a story, it's what happens in stories.

Was I the only person who was not won over by 378 novels about Han winking at Leia? 16 new, ever-more-powerful alien invasion apocalypses when nothing ever fundamentally changed?



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