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@  fourteenwings : (26 April 2019 - 12:11 AM)

After "Secret Wars", Marvel's comic sales dropped for most of their series but it wasn't bad enough to be worried about. I think. What homages, exactly?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (25 April 2019 - 09:31 PM)

Kamen Rider Specter Tutankhamun Soul was definitely a thing.

@  B-Fox : (25 April 2019 - 09:30 PM)

How popular is Marvel's current comics? Because the homages to it got very anemic audience reactions.

@  The Doctor Who : (25 April 2019 - 07:47 PM)

An Egyptian themed version of a popular Japanese TV show: Tutankhamun Rider

@  MEDdMI : (25 April 2019 - 06:53 PM)

combine the two options. Grayffles or Waffson

@  Paladin : (25 April 2019 - 05:43 PM)

split the difference- "Ryan" after the Titanium Ranger.

@  Sabrblade : (25 April 2019 - 05:10 PM)

The second name choice is "Waffles", named after Goofy's gray tabby cat from Goof Troop. It's a cuter name than "Grayson" and the kitten is definitely adorable, but his colors aren't as close a match to the namesake as one of his sibling's colors are (said sibling is already spoken for, so I can't name that one).

@  Sabrblade : (25 April 2019 - 05:07 PM)

The first name choice is "Grayson", because he's gray and a son, and I think the name sounds cool. It also makes me think of Carter Grayson, the Red Ranger from Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue, who was a born leader and one of the coolest Red Rangers.

@  Paladin : (25 April 2019 - 05:07 PM)

"Lamont."

@  Sabrblade : (25 April 2019 - 05:06 PM)

I need help deciding on a name for one of the kittens. He's an all-gray cat but is also showing early signs of growing some black stripes in his fur. There are two names I've thought of for him and can't decide which one I like more.

@  Telly : (25 April 2019 - 01:31 PM)

got the second part of first gundam, popped it in and wow! picture miles better than my old dvds. other than the archaic animation (which i dont mind), it looks like it was done recently

@  Xellos : (25 April 2019 - 07:49 AM)

Aye, or at least the movies for Zeta, as they supposedly negate ZZ, kinda like how the Code Geass clip movies retcon some events before the newest one.

@  Telly : (24 April 2019 - 11:05 PM)

i wish theyd dub double zeta. thats the only one im missing for the "amuro vs char" thing (and chars not even in it so...). but given some of the things ive heard about it, its probly best that they dont dub it

@  Telly : (24 April 2019 - 11:02 PM)

and im on vacation next week so ill have lots of time to watch all this lol

@  Telly : (24 April 2019 - 11:01 PM)

@zaku ive got war in the pocket on standard dvd already. amazon didnt have it on blu ray. bonus points to it for having character designs by haruhiku mikimoto. and this collecction is only "new" in as much as its new to me on blu ray. ive had burnt dvd copies of it all for years

@  Xellos : (24 April 2019 - 09:44 PM)

Yeah, 00 was pretty good, and I recently watched Build Divers, and found it really fun. Got both limited editions of IBO... still need to watch them...

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 April 2019 - 08:30 PM)

00 is also pretty good, basically a refined version of the Wing concept, and IBO is great.

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 April 2019 - 08:29 PM)

I'll be the requisite "Build Fighters is actually pretty good" chime in

@  MEDdMI : (24 April 2019 - 07:52 PM)

G Gundam was the best. Horse mecha! Piloted by.... a HORSE!

@  ZakuConvoy : (24 April 2019 - 07:31 PM)

I'd probably recommend tracking down 0080 War in the Pocket to go along with your new collection, but you might have enough to watch for right now.

@  Xellos : (24 April 2019 - 06:53 PM)

G Gundam will likely always rank first for me, as it is the one I find the most fun, but 8th MS was great for being the most "realistic" of the UC stuff.

@  Telly : (24 April 2019 - 06:17 PM)

the only other gundam series ive watched-which was also the FIRST gundam series i watched-is wing (and ill probly get that on blu ray soon too). i know i havent watched everything tied to it, but the UC is quite enough for me lol

@  Telly : (24 April 2019 - 06:14 PM)

i think 8th team is my favorite, but cant say why. maybe it has something to do with them not being newtypes. i dont particularly like that concept

@  Xellos : (24 April 2019 - 06:11 PM)

8th M Team, 0083, and Zeta are my favorites of the original timeline. Have yet to watch Origin, but it is loooow on my list, as I never particularly liked Char. Quattro Bajeena was actually kinda cool, though.

@  Telly : (24 April 2019 - 05:49 PM)

so i just did something insane. i bought gundam origin, first gundam, 08th ms team, operation stardust, zeta gundam AND chars counterattack on bluray...

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2019 - 05:46 PM)

Hollywood stereotypes, eh? Don't get me started on how sheerly unrealistic that can be, and how badly Hollywood loves to stick to them.

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2019 - 05:44 PM)

Also, fun fact: To me, Dutch is the language that sounds harsh compared to German.

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2019 - 05:37 PM)

Generally, nobody shouts at each other in Germany unless they're either a) morons or b) doing it for comedic effect.

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2019 - 05:36 PM)

... based on an outdated way of speaking (I mean, does anyone in the US still speak like Joe Friday?)... which might also have been at least partially a regional thing.

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2019 - 05:34 PM)

Generally, many native English speakers' primary conception of the German language and its perceived harshness comes from Hollywood movies... created by non-native German speakers, with non-native German actors giving their impression of what they think the German language sounds like...

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2019 - 05:33 PM)

I might be severely biased, but as a native German speaker, I think the perception of the "harsh German language" is at least in part due to a myth created by Hollywood.

@  Pinkcolliebot : (24 April 2019 - 05:32 PM)

I wish I knew if that Blue autobot in the background in the movie Bumblebee was Blurr.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2019 - 11:52 AM)

Blood is blue before coming into contact with air from outside.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2019 - 09:50 AM)

I had to use a whole ten percent of my brain to understand that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 April 2019 - 08:32 AM)

I think I saw a debunking of that like at least a decade ago when I still relied on TV for things.

@  Paladin : (24 April 2019 - 08:21 AM)

isn't the whole "lemmings jump to their death" thing proven false now too???

@  Pennpenn : (24 April 2019 - 03:05 AM)

It's like how the whole "alpha male" thing doesn't really show up in wolf packs in the wild.

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2019 - 01:54 AM)

Aaaaand another myth busted.

@  CORVUS : (24 April 2019 - 12:27 AM)

Quite welcome! :)

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2019 - 09:51 PM)

@Corvus Huh, did not know that part. Thanks for imparting knowledge!

@  Kayla Kaon : (23 April 2019 - 09:27 PM)

No because it's true.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 April 2019 - 09:17 PM)

Would I be jaded if i said that's a good lesson about people as well?

@  CORVUS : (23 April 2019 - 09:01 PM)

Overstated risk. Most observations of sexual cannibalism in the Praying Mantis occurred in captivity, versus nature. When entomologists began observing them in nature instead, they found that sexual cannibalism took place around 30% of the time. Basically, if a male Mantis avoids thin, hungry females, his chances are pretty good. #yesimanerd

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2019 - 07:52 PM)

Are you a male mantis?

@  MEDdMI : (23 April 2019 - 07:27 PM)

Death by snu snu

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2019 - 06:40 PM)

There's a joke about going out with a bang to be made here.

@  Kayla Kaon : (23 April 2019 - 06:38 PM)

I would hope getting laid is preferred over dying :p

@  Nevermore : (23 April 2019 - 05:20 PM)

Don't we all want to get laid?

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2019 - 04:53 PM)

I'd spend the first few loops just taking an extended nap.

@  Dekafox : (23 April 2019 - 04:48 PM)

Endless death time loops certainly happen enough in Star Trek


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#1 HellCat

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Posted 19 July 2018 - 08:38 PM

MOD EDIT: discussion split from here:

 

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I'm not too surprised. The word is that after Solo bombed Kennedy was told in no uncertain terms Disney aren't happy with her because under her the franchise has steadily lost money. This feels like throwing fans a bone with something pre-her they knew was in demand.


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Posted 19 July 2018 - 08:59 PM

I'm not too surprised. The word is that after Solo bombed Kennedy was told in no uncertain terms Disney aren't happy with her because under her the franchise has steadily lost money. This feels like throwing fans a bone with something pre-her they knew was in demand.


How do people think it lost money? I'm genuinely curious as to why people may think this after the success of the recent films. Not being confrontational, just wanted to know why.

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Posted 19 July 2018 - 10:09 PM

Indeed. Just based off the box office takes for the Post-Disney films, they've nearly doubled their investment. The four Disney era films combined cost about a billion to make. The international take home for those four films is around 4 billion. Heck, Solo was a $100 million success. That's not even bothering to look at merchandise speculations.

 

So I really don't understand the idea that Star Wars is somehow failing under Kennedy.


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Posted 19 July 2018 - 11:04 PM

Yeah, um, what? That rumor is absurdly mismatched with a reality where Star Wars is regularly making hundreds of millions of dollars.

 

Really excited for more Clone Wars, and I will be very happy if the story they tell makes Revenge of the Sith ultimately redundant, as it deserves.


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Posted 19 July 2018 - 11:17 PM

We're talking about a company that paid billions for this franchise. The rumours basically imply she's been criticised because Solo bombed and Disney are apparently comparing Star Wars to the success of the MCU.
They're apparently also not happy the entitled man baby crap went into overdrive based on her direction for the franchise but if that parts true I don't think it can be fully blamed on her.

And no, I didn't pick this up from some random hate blog. The sources on this were also on top of the Sony hack a while back.

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Posted 19 July 2018 - 11:31 PM

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 07:17 AM



The rumours basically imply she's been criticised because Solo bombed and Disney are apparently comparing Star Wars to the success of the MCU.

 

Except Solo didn't bomb. It under-performed certainly, but still made Disney $100 million profit. Other studios wish they had Disney's problems.

 

But I will admit there's something to be said about the rate of performance. If Disney was expecting Star Wars to be like the MCU, they're going to be in for a rude awakening. One thing Lucas had right was the marketing of the franchise - make people wait. Let the pot simmer for a bit before giving it another stir. Banging out new movies and shows every year is a great means of producing a burnout. Marvel seems immune at the moment, but Marvel also isn't brokering competition. Warner Bros is struggling to keep the DC franchises relevant (Not even Batman can bolster all of them), and the CW has hit critical mass with its Arrowverse.

 

Sometimes less is more.


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 08:09 AM

So let me get this straight.  Because Solo didn't make ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD!, this means it bombed and that under Kennedy, the franchise is losing money because one movie didn't make ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD!?  Fanboys are idiots.

 

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 09:09 AM

Three SW films in a row make over 1 billion each, fourth arguably doesn't break even. This is fine.


Really, though, Clone Wars had a LOT of material that went to waste from the buyout. Its really quite natural that Disney would go back to it to fill out its new streaming service.
(Also, they'd've been working on this since before Solo even came out, so the whole thing's kinda moot, heh)

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 09:14 AM

Indeed. Just based off the box office takes for the Post-Disney films, they've nearly doubled their investment. The four Disney era films combined cost about a billion to make. The international take home for those four films is around 4 billion. Heck, Solo was a $100 million success. That's not even bothering to look at merchandise speculations.

 

So I really don't understand the idea that Star Wars is somehow failing under Kennedy.

 

Every article I have seen on the internet says that the movie under-performance cost Disney $50 million. I see no mention of it making $100 Million. It reportedly cost Disney $250 million to make the film and it only made $212 Domestically. Internationally it made another $173, but international markets take a lot larger cut of the films than the domestic markets. Once the film hits home media, I am sure that Disney will get its money back but so far the film did take a loss theatrically.


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 09:44 AM

It was never about overall box office performance, it is about efficiency.  If $1 invested in makes $2, that film operates at 50%.  Every decision has an efficiency, some are high, some are low.  I business has to decide how they are spending their limited resources.  Solo operated at 50% and costed 1M to make.  Disney may have had other options that operated at 25%, but only cost .25M to make.  If they put money into those, they could produce 4 smaller projects and make a total of 4M rather than one that makes 2M.  That is what killed Kennedy.  She convinced them that they should fund Solo rather than Frozen 2, the Clone Wars cartoon, the "Incredible Radishes", and the "Mtn Dew Chronicles".  Solo didn't do well and Disney walked away from 4M.  When the accountants saw that, Disney had to make a decision to keep throwing money at Kennedy, or "have her resign"


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:01 AM

Well, it was Kennedy's distaste for what Miller and Lord were doing that led to Solo ending up as the most expensive Star Wars film ever, so... IF true, I don't think she's necessarily the WORST person to blame.
But then I don't like Kennedy much anyway because she's supposedly responsible for Nothing But White Female Leads.

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:16 AM

Well, it was Kennedy's distaste for what Miller and Lord were doing that led to Solo ending up as the most expensive Star Wars film ever, so... IF true, I don't think she's necessarily the WORST person to blame.
But then I don't like Kennedy much anyway because she's supposedly responsible for Nothing But White Female Leads.

It all boils down to Star Trek

 

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KIRK: I am.
CHANG: And if it should be proved that members of your crew did in fact carry out such an assassination?...
McCOY: Jim! They're setting us up! Your honours!...
COLONEL WORF: Do not answer!
KLINGON JUDGE: Captain Kirk, you will answer the question.
KIRK: As Captain ...I am responsible for the conduct of the crew under my command.
CHANG: Your honours, the State rests.


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:30 AM

That's actually the scene that kept coming to mind for me in all the Holdo/Poe discussions.  :D
 
On topic, I think it's also worth noting that financial people are ridiculously big on trends. For example, revenue reports are always provided not just in terms of an actual dollar amount, but how much that figure changed from the same year/quarter/month from a year ago. It's not enough to make money. You have to continuously increase how much money you're making. With that in mind, I can very easily imagine some of the corporate bosses at Disney being very unhappy with this picture.

 

Edit: I have no idea what's up with the chart scaling, but I only just noticed it. Looks like it's trying to show double the actual values for some reason. Oh well, not worth the effort to fix it since the actual data is there and the trends are clear enough.

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:54 AM

That's actually the scene that kept coming to mind for me in all the Holdo/Poe discussions.  :D
 
On topic, I think it's also worth noting that financial people are ridiculously big on trends. For example, revenue reports are always provided not just in terms of an actual dollar amount, but how much that figure changed from the same year/quarter/month from a year ago. It's not enough to make money. You have to continuously increase how much money you're making. With that in mind, I can very easily imagine some of the corporate bosses at Disney being very unhappy with this picture.

 

Edit: I have no idea what's up with the chart scaling, but I only just noticed it. Looks like it's trying to show double the actual values for some reason. Oh well, not worth the effort to fix it since the actual data is there and the trends are clear enough.

 

Couple that with the price to make, and the efficiency trend is worse.  Per man hour, Disney makes less on Star Wars than STV sequels.  They may get a better GP if they send those SW experts over to create a TV show with revenue from syndication and advertiser slots.  You could also use the program as a vehicle for toy sales.

 

I wonder if they have some way to do that...oh yeah :)


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 12:08 PM

Nothing But White Brunette British Female Leads.

 

Fixed that for you.

 

Definitely seems like there's a very obvious pattern. 

 

Take out the British part and then you have the original and prequels as well.

 

A little diversity would be nice.


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 12:12 PM

With renewed extensive discussion on Star Wars as a whole, I have split those posts into this dedicated thread.

 

For Star Wars: The Force Awakens discussion, see here.

 

For Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion, see here.

 

For Star Wars Episode IX discussion, see here.

 

For Rogue One: A Star Wars Story discussion, see here.

 

For Solo: A Star Wars Story discussion, see here.

 

For Star Wars: The Clone Wars revival discussion, see here.

 

For Star Wars Rebels discussion, see here.

 

For Star Wars: Resistance discussion, see here.

 

For The Mandalorian series discussion, see here.

 

For Cassian Andor series discussion, see here.

 

For Star Wars toy discussion, see here.

 

And for Star Trek general discussion, see here.

 

In any case, we live in an interesting era, to be sure.

 

I can hardly wait to see what news comes out of Disney next.


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 03:58 PM

And they say the fandom is not divided...


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 04:53 PM

 

I'm not too surprised. The word is that after Solo bombed Kennedy was told in no uncertain terms Disney aren't happy with her because under her the franchise has steadily lost money. This feels like throwing fans a bone with something pre-her they knew was in demand.


How do people think it lost money? I'm genuinely curious as to why people may think this after the success of the recent films. Not being confrontational, just wanted to know why.

 

 

It boils down to the fact many fans felt betrayed by the Last Jedi film, it failed to answer their burning questions that were posed in the Force Awakens, it wasted a lot of time on a meaningless side story to get a hacker when in the past its been shown droids can do these things, its pretty much a SLOW Chase through Space that could of been over within about 30min, to me it felt like a bad remake of a Battlestar Galatica (Reimgained series) ep, where the Cylons would show up every 30 min and they had to jump away to safety. Last Jedi killed off the most important legacy charater in a manner that dishounored him, it killed the charater who many believed to be the primary villian of the trilogy, without seconds thoughts to his back story, it wasted Rey's time on that world with Luke, it had two charaters who pretty much cost many people in the resistance, their lives, one by failing to tell people what the plan is or directing the other ships to jump to lightspeed in different directions, the other, just to steal a kiss from a guy she only just met a few hours ago, when he was willing to give up his life to prevent the First Order from getting access to the base.

 

 

So I really don't understand the idea that Star Wars is somehow failing under Kennedy.

 

I can, Kennedy is a buiness person without the vision, like JJ Adrams has, thus she pretty much been rubber stamping a lot of things and making bad choices, simply because she doesn't understand the brand she been in charge of. She also failed to reign in Rian Johnson who been out of control on Twitter and trying to explain his choices in the Last Jedi, but he also been insuilting fans, she made a bad sitution worse a couple of times, like saying, she doesn't like Luke Skywalker or feel with him, there also a comment I heard about where she says something about your NOT a fan if you only go and see the films or watch the TV series or buy the toys and stuff! This pretty much upset fans greatly and is causing things to go downhill!

 

The general sitution is that Rian & Kathleen have set fire to something that was not meant to be set fire to and as they try to put the fire out, they only throw on things that make it worse and as a result the brand of Star Wars as suffered greatly which lead to many fans not bothering with Solo, plus many fans likely have their own ideas of Han Solo's adventures prior to meeting Luke & Obi Wan, its pretty much the story no one asked for ror felt was wanted unlike Rouge One which felt right at home as a bridge film that help set the stage for a New Hope events. Of course, Kathleen, from what I understand/heard about, got a major scolling from the head of Disney, behind private doors with the heads of Pixar and Marvel listening in but not saying anything, so currently the future of the brand rests upon Ep9 and Disney knows there must be a serious change of leadership at Lucas film and what I last knew of (as of a couple of days ago), Kathleen is currently hard to replace, not because of how she does the job, but getting a replacement, a lot of people do not want to take over because they see the fandom as Toxic when the reailty is that its the people currently in charge are toxic.


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 07:14 PM

 

 

I'm not too surprised. The word is that after Solo bombed Kennedy was told in no uncertain terms Disney aren't happy with her because under her the franchise has steadily lost money. This feels like throwing fans a bone with something pre-her they knew was in demand.


How do people think it lost money? I'm genuinely curious as to why people may think this after the success of the recent films. Not being confrontational, just wanted to know why.

 

 

It boils down to the fact many fans felt betrayed by the Last Jedi film, it failed to answer their burning questions that were posed in the Force Awakens, it wasted a lot of time on a meaningless side story to get a hacker when in the past its been shown droids can do these things, its pretty much a SLOW Chase through Space that could of been over within about 30min, to me it felt like a bad remake of a Battlestar Galatica (Reimgained series) ep, where the Cylons would show up every 30 min and they had to jump away to safety. Last Jedi killed off the most important legacy charater in a manner that dishounored him, it killed the charater who many believed to be the primary villian of the trilogy, without seconds thoughts to his back story, it wasted Rey's time on that world with Luke, it had two charaters who pretty much cost many people in the resistance, their lives, one by failing to tell people what the plan is or directing the other ships to jump to lightspeed in different directions, the other, just to steal a kiss from a guy she only just met a few hours ago, when he was willing to give up his life to prevent the First Order from getting access to the base.

 

 

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That's what you get from J.J. Abrams a lot of questions and no payoff.





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