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@  RichardT1977 : (17 November 2019 - 08:26 PM)

It's a good deal if you want a full set of Refraktor (and if they have them at your location)

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 November 2019 - 04:43 PM)

Here we can buy two and get one free, but at least two of them are gonna be the same toy, because lol distribution.

@  Bass X0 : (17 November 2019 - 01:01 PM)

In the U.K., it’s more like you but two, you only get one given how expensive they are.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 November 2019 - 11:38 AM)

Transformers are Buy 2 Get 1 free at Target this week.

@  Bass X0 : (17 November 2019 - 04:29 AM)

2019 has been one long South Park episode.

@  Sjogre : (16 November 2019 - 10:46 PM)

Okay, that actually sounds pretty fun.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 November 2019 - 12:49 PM)

It was set in the forties, featured Nazi's as the villains and had Kiko fight mostly Ice Age animals and a mythical dragon that now ruled the island guarding Kongs treasure.

@  Paladin : (15 November 2019 - 11:37 AM)

and it was ALSO eleven hours long.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 November 2019 - 10:55 AM)

In a alternate reality Peter Jackson made Son of Kong.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

To be fair to boba: everyone else to go into the sarlacc was a sacrifice. Stripped almost naked and tossed, and didn't have body armor, a jetpack and a weapon.

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 November 2019 - 06:54 AM)

Nah, he just has to keep up his plot insurance payments so he can shoot his way out of the Sarlacc again.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 November 2019 - 02:59 AM)

Funny, but everyone knows he bounty hunts for Jabba Hutt to finance his 'Vette.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 November 2019 - 02:54 AM)

Okay.. Not sure why.. but streaming is harder than jsut playing the game.. even though that's pretty much what I was doing.

@  Xellos : (14 November 2019 - 06:47 PM)

What type of vehicle does Boba Fett use for time travel? A Man-DeLorean.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 03:55 PM)

Admittedly, it's been a long time since I've been to a walk-in clinic, as I tend not to get sick (and the one time I do every 4-5 years, I prefer just riding it out at home), but the last time I went I'm pretty sure you could just show up, no appointment. It may be different in Quebec,though

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:36 PM)

One thing to note about health insurance in Germany is that we have a two-class system: mandatory health insurance is basically the economy class, while private health insurance is the business class.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:32 PM)

My local doctor is actually a shared office with several doctors where you will get randomly assigned to one of the doctors available that day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:30 PM)

Also, employers are required by law to cover part of their employees' health insurance fees, so I only have to pay my part.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:28 PM)

Basic examinations and sick notes (known as "work-inability certificates" in Germany) for the employer are covered by our health insurances by default.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 November 2019 - 12:02 PM)

Around here, we can go to a walk-in clinic whenever, but might have to wait in the queue until there's a doctor available, which can take hours on a busy day. And then hope our insurance will cover anything.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2019 - 07:38 AM)

There actually are a good number of clinics around here: but the walk ins require an appointment (what?) and are only done once a week. IF you can get an appointment, you see a doctor usually within 40 minutes, but good luck getting the appointment.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

Depending on the day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

We have family doctors (called "house doctors") with regular office hours where you may need an hour or two of waiting time.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 12:50 AM)

Two weeks? That seems a little long; are there not a lot of walk-in clinics around you?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 07:01 PM)

Does germany make it quick and easy to see a doctor too? Cause an emergency doctor visit can take two weeks out here, and an emergency ROOM visit can take 18-24 hours.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:43 PM)

(Good thing is, under German law, if you call in sick during your vacation and see a doctor immediately, you get to keep your vacation days.)

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:42 PM)

Too bad. My plans wee to do two more overtime hours before having my last day of vacation for the year on Friday. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:41 PM)

So I'm currently on medical leave for a particularly stupid reason: Burned my back with a hot-water bag while sleeping last night. Though the doctor said I'm hardly the first person to have this happen to them.

@  Patch : (13 November 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Just a particularly odious example of the 90s era of depicting transgender women as either the subject of crude humor, or "Jerry Springer" material.

@  Ashley : (13 November 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I think Ace Ventura legit contributed to me spending years in self denial. I will never be ok with Jim Carrey.

@  Benbot : (13 November 2019 - 01:22 PM)

I thought he since changed his tune.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 November 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Jim Carry Paladin?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 November 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Don't doubt what he can do. Sonic the Hedgehog!

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 11:51 AM)

not giving a dime to a transphobic antivaxxer.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 11:25 AM)

It'll be a terrible movie if jim carrey phones it in. Otherwise it should be decent.

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 10:45 AM)

sonics' still gonna be a terrible movie but at least they whined loud enough to make him look passable for a 2-minute trailer. "yay."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:37 AM)

But of course to annoying people there's no such thing as different decisions made for different reasons, there is only "I like it so it's right" and "I don't like it so it's wrong."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Even if we pretend it's objective truth that they were both bad, then they were bad in very different ways.

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Sonic's previous movie design looked genuinely bad. The Transformers '07 designs just looked insufficiently like what certain loud and obnoxious parts of the fandom think Transformers are required to always look like.

@  Otaku : (13 November 2019 - 08:50 AM)

Um... Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.


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#21 Teufel

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 04:42 PM

I'm still miffed at IMDB for killing its message boards. From a business standpoint they probably weren't worth the hassle and a dying format of interaction, but there's nothing really around to fill that same niche.



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Posted 11 July 2018 - 05:05 PM

I'm not sure forums are on their way out entirely, though.  Forums have their benefits and I don't see those being taken away by anything else on the market, except maybe Discord.  But even then, Discord doesn't offer quite the level of organization that a forum does.

 

So, yeah, forums are almost certainly getting less popular, but I'm not sure they're dying, per se.

 

I wouldn't really see Discord as a more direct answer to discussion forums than the others. I mean, a subreddit is functionally a discussion board, just the old-school kind with nested threads and where threads don't pop to the top of the list when a new comment happens, while a Discord server or Facebook group doesn't really fall into the set of things that can be described as discussion boards. Discord also isn't as amenable to long and complicated posts in the way that a discussion board or subreddit is, because it's facilitating more realtime interaction instead.

 

Forum threads have a longer memory than anything in Facebook group, a Discord, or a subreddit, in the sense that a popular thread is very easy to page back through, and that's probably their most distinctive quality. But conversations in both forums and subreddits can be found eight years later in a Google search if they're relevant and that's not true of Discord or Facebook.

 

So to me, the reason it makes sense for Allspark to have a Facebook group and a Discord server but not a subreddit is that a subreddit and a discussion board have a very similar set of features that are more overlapping and redundant than complementary - they're different ways of doing the same thing rather than different tools for different purposes. But that's independent of the question of whether people are more likely to engage with online communities through these big services they're already a part of, which Facebook, Reddit, and Discord all are, and independently hosted discussion boards are not, and between them, which kinds of services offer modes of interaction with a community that are more in demand right now. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
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#23 Fear or Courage

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 02:47 PM

Yknow, it's perplexing that, every new discussion format we get, while anonymity is more and more de-emphasized, history and permanence is also being de-emphasized, too. We can still find ATT posts from like 1995, but good luck finding some stuff someone said on Discord in a year's time.


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 03:54 PM

We should be making a much bigger marketing push now that people are starting to think about privacy again.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 03:58 PM

I'm not sure that anonymity and permanence are related things in the first place, but they also actually don't track each other, do they? Discussion boards and Reddit are firmly in the "anonymous" and "permanent" spaces that public communication on the web has largely been by default - and of course IM, e-mail, and IRC never were, since none of them is permanent or public.

 

"Permanent" and "public" definitely track, in that the more something is closed within a service, the less likely it is to be recoverable later. Discord, which is an IM service in every mechanical detail, is very not-public and impermanent, and Reddit, which is a discussion board service in every mechanical detail, is public and permanent.  

 

What's changed is that you're creating an account for a service instead of creating an account for a community. And the reason for moving user accounts up one level out of the communities is fairly obvious - each and every one of these services wants people to be able to hop between communities or mush them together into a mass, and they want to keep you in their system. That is a trend that's a clear and measurable thing happening. The software is the service is the interface, and you as the user have a direct relationship to the company providing it, on which your relationship with any given community within that service depends. That's how much anonymity is being reduced, that people are being guided to invest more into a given online account which they use in a larger number of contexts. On Discord, they know your IP address and I don't, etc. (It's a good job that someone does since otherwise there's no way to enforce a ban or any other rules.)

 

There have always been impermanent and permanent ways of talking at people with a computer. It is unsurprising that what's trendy now is what it is vs. 1998 when you consider the difference in demographics represented. But the only connection I see between that, and services that want you to invest heavily in them and keep all the content locked up in that space, is that microblogging tagboards and IM-that's-not-IRC were designed under that model and forums weren't. The former is a trend in what users want if it exists at all and the latter is an inevitable consequence of how money works.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 12 July 2018 - 04:00 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 04:31 PM

I find it weird nobody's bringing up chan-type imageboards as comparison, especially as the topic of anonymity is here.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 04:52 PM

Well, for my part, I forgot they existed. I'm vaguely aware that they're discussion boards, but are they more servicey like Reddit, or independent discussion communities like, you know, this?

 

Edit: I just realized that in editing my last post, I completely left out any mention of Facebook and Google and the concept of anonymity as applied to meatspace entities. Oops. But yeah, that's another independent business concern layered on top of the "your account is valuable" and so far as I can see orthogonal to the permanence question; there's not enough examples of places where that's a concern the company has to see whether it tracks with any of these other elements.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 12 July 2018 - 04:58 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


#28 Fnu Aw

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 05:01 PM

They vary. 4Chan's various chans have their own cultures. Some of them are more community like than others.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 05:06 PM

Chan boards seem to have the highest anonymity (since you don't even need to pick a name) and potentially very low permanence (archival is mostly left to any third-party services that might care enough).

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:38 PM

Even the anonymity varies. In some of the recurring threads, there's people who know how to spot each other. They don't use names or avatars, but somehow they recognize each other just from some cues in their posts.


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:51 PM

There's no real guarantee that anyone guessed correctly and it's not just someone else playing along.

And it's not really hard to just avoid making the same cues if you don't want to be recognized . I only remember one person who seemed to fail at that when I paid attention to any section on 4chan.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 11:34 PM

I've definitely seen a decline in activity on the few forums I've been a member of for 15-20 years. The number of new discussion threads is much lower than is used to be and the same dozen or so tend to hang around for months if not years on end as the more popular. And the forum I used to participate the most in is now a ghost town, the few regulars having left or having become lurkers, the new blood being rare and the desire to engage them being quite low.

 

Things change and die, it's the nature of things. It's just scary to think that once forums are gone (and they will eventually), I'll have little to no investment in having a presence online anymore. My "evolution" stopped before social media really became a thing, so I have no Twitter, no Facebook, no Tumblr, etc. I might as well not exist online aside from the occasional holdouts like the Allspark. And once it and its ilks are gone, I really *will* be gone from the online world entirely. I guess this is what so many people growing old feel like when it seems like the world has finally passed them by...



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Posted 12 July 2018 - 11:36 PM

I tend to hate chat clients because they're a nightmare to get caught up on. I'm in some anti Brexit private groups on Twitter and it's a pain to scroll through 8 hours you missed.

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 08:41 PM

Discord is basically just a chat room system, right? Like IRC but slightly more high tech? Because I don't really consider that to be in the same category as forums or social networking sites.


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 08:56 PM

Yeah, it's like Skype attached to a network of IRC channels, except the channels are called "servers" and usually have many "channels" within them.* And like Skype, you can use it as a webapp in a browser or as its own installed desktop or mobile app. (Or rather, like Skype, it's a single, vertically integrated service available on multiple platforms instead of a federated standard that many independent things can plug into like IRC.)

 

But whether or not it's in the same "category", it's one of the options people have for saying "go join our community to talk about our thing over here". If you have a webcomic or a YouTube channel or are one of the folks getting in at the ground floor of a new fandom, you probably would have started a forum ten years ago as a contact point. A Facebook group, a Discord server, a subreddit, etc. are all likely options now. So Discord is one of the things that fill the same roles in a broad sense as forums and social media. 

 

And Twitter and Tumblr are more about individuals such that interest groups happen as ad-hoc networks rather than defined spaces, but those communities still form in that bottom-up way and might fill the same role for another person.

 

* Edit: And of course, those channels are permanent and serverside, rather than a local log, so quite a lot like a forum thread and not like plugging into a group phone call, but presumably if you're using IRC today you're using Riot or something anyway and that's true there too....


Edited by Copper Bezel, 13 July 2018 - 09:05 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 14 July 2018 - 06:06 AM

Reading conversations is better on forums than on Facebook and Twitter.  It is so much more organized.



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Posted 14 July 2018 - 08:04 PM

There will always be forums or something like them.  There actually always were.  Hobby Clubs, Gentlemen's Clubs, people sitting on their porches as their neighbors stroll by.

 

Internet forums are the version for a geeky minority and as long as there is a geeky minority, something a lot like this will exist.  It doesn't need to be as big as Twitter and Reddit and in fact cannot be.  Those are made for a different audience.



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Posted 14 July 2018 - 08:10 PM

Tangentially, a gamer friend of mine posted on Facebook the other day that it was such a shame that they've stopped making games for introverts like him and have instead started tailoring to the rowdy extroverts that used to make fun of him.



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Posted 19 July 2018 - 07:42 AM

Reading conversations is better on forums than on Facebook and Twitter.  It is so much more organized.

 

It's that it's inline with quoting. Sure, the quoting can take up screen space, especially when not done right - trim your quotes, people - but it's so much more convenient and easier to follow than threaded.


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 12:42 AM

I like that there's a sense of history and community on the board itself.  If you've been here for any span of time at all, you get to know people. On the social media type services, everything moves so fast and people have new names every 3 minutes on things like twitter and discord. it's hard to get a sense for anything other than just being in a room where everyone is yelling at the sky and nobody is actually listening.





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