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@  Otaku : (23 October 2018 - 09:12 AM)

Now, I'm not saying that Cybertronians ought to have human life-spans, just that "millions of years" is too long.  Though I suppose it makes the "Oh, I suddenly remembered [plot point]!" moments credible because where do you store all the memories in an easily accessed form?  If you do remember even most things clearly... might that not be maddening?

@  Otaku : (23 October 2018 - 09:09 AM)

The "millions of years old" thing is probably the most alien aspect of Cybertronians.  It pushes my suspension of disbelief for anything remotely human to live that long and still be sane, or maybe even functional.  I think of how aging has affected my own view and sure, some of it is biological maturation, but a lot of it is experience.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 07:11 AM)

But they don't really have a childhood either. They go online and all maturation is literally job experience.

@  Shrug : (23 October 2018 - 06:47 AM)

Well, they're practically immortal. That kind of lifespan doesn't exactly push growing up.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 October 2018 - 04:00 AM)

They can't handle physical scale, did you think temporal scale would fare any better?

@  Pennpenn : (23 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

Maybe it's that they're functionally intelligent, but don't ever really mature much psychologically. That and presumably the original writers gave as much of a shit about deep time as they did about space geometry.

@  Whirl Maximus : (23 October 2018 - 02:03 AM)

I'm mixed about the millions of years thing, it's somewhat at odds when transformers are humanized as they often are.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 October 2018 - 11:59 PM)

Are any of the Transformers terribly bright, really? This is a spacefaring civilization that's millions of years old that seem to be fighting a perpetual war for no particular reason. Transformers are stupider than humans

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2018 - 08:31 PM)

Depends on the machine. Are you recruiting them, or MAKING them?

@  Cybersnark : (22 October 2018 - 08:30 PM)

... And not terribly bright.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2018 - 07:51 PM)

Makes sense for robot soldiers: you would want something fast, low profile, but lots of power.

@  Waspinator : (22 October 2018 - 06:31 PM)

If we go by the Prime cartoon, sports cars apparently ARE the expendable troop of choice.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 October 2018 - 04:29 PM)

Just fold 'em into a box and slap some wheels on it, they'll figure it out.

@  Pennpenn : (22 October 2018 - 01:57 AM)

Given that by the time we're up to in the story Functionalism had been dead for millions of years and many of the people around were made during and for the war, it's probably more likely that "sports car shaped thing" was an easy to make alt mode for expendable troops.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 09:52 PM)

maybe there's underground demolition derbies too

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 09:25 PM)

Every single sports car was one of those two jobs? Considering how many there seem to be....

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 07:34 PM)

Athletic Entertainment

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 October 2018 - 03:32 PM)

It's mentioned in one issue that Bumblebee was a courier. The only other fast cars I can remember seeing in Functionist times were Blur and a couple of Stunticons, as racers.

@  SG Roadbuster : (21 October 2018 - 12:14 PM)

i figured the sports cars were either racers or couriers.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 12:13 PM)

Upper Class. They're clearly not made for manual labor.

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 12:09 PM)

Functionism only really makes sense for certain alternate modes like mining or construction equipment; where do things like sports cars fit in?

@  Xellos : (21 October 2018 - 11:51 AM)

At least in the movies they can switch to a (similar) alt mode at will, it seems. Especially if they want to sell more toys per movie.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2018 - 10:44 AM)

They are a race of adaptive machines. Maybe they were expected to change themselves to fit the role?

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 10:06 AM)

IDW-verse discrimination still made more sense than the backstory in TF: Exodus, where everyone's caste was assigned seemingly at random with no regard for their aptitudes (altmode or otherwise)

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:55 AM)

Lost Light is good too, so far.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:54 AM)

I'm not terribly into Transformers in general, but I did mostly enjoy the More Than Meets The Eye series.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:11 AM)

Which has been in the state constitution since 1946, but was never actually executed according to documents, and is currently not in effect because the German federal constitution, which takes priority over state constitution, has banned the death penalty back in 1949.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:09 AM)

Huh. So next weekend, when the German state of Hesse will have its state election, there will also be a ballot about changing the state constitution... and one of the proposed changes will be abolishing the death penalty.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

I really need to read those comics

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:28 AM)

Up to and including the fact that certain alternate modes could end up being classified as "surplus to requirements" and systematically murdered.

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:26 AM)

And in IDW comics where it is/was literally a form of apartheid where your alternate mode pretty much dictated how you were treated by society, what jobs you could pursue, pretty much everything.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 02:24 AM)

We do get hints of that from time to time in Transformers, with stuff like some jets acting smug towards cars and whatnot.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 October 2018 - 08:10 PM)

"No shotgun of Mine is going to marry a rocket launcher" sounds like something that Targetmasters (or WFC Siege Micromasters) might say...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 08:06 PM)

The characters are actually kinda nice. Sure a bunch of them are from New Jersey, but you get a few aliens too.. But if you do that, you might want to go digital delux verisons.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:38 PM)

My only issue is that the aside from Fox, the looks of the characters are kinda bland. If anything, I'll at least get it on Black Friday, as they almost always have deals on the toys to life stuff.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 06:07 PM)

Well I can tell you, if you are going physical version because you want the toys. The Switch version has the best Ship mount as you just slide the joycons into it. The PS4 ship mount is wired. The game itself is very good in my opionion. In some ways it starts to turn into an RTS without being an RTS. You've got to start focus on keeping your planets from being taken back over. It has a LOT to do. It does have some repitive missions, because well, trying to let you level up all pilots and ships and such. The switch version -ALSO- has starfox only missions and the characters are incorporated into the story.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:03 PM)

How is Starlink anyways? Been thinking of getting the Switch version for StarFox, which is quite unusal for me, as I almost always pick the PS4 versions (favorite controller and I already have so many Trophys on it).

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:42 PM)

No shotgun of mine is going to marry a rocket launcher!

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 October 2018 - 05:22 PM)

Should they be allowed to marry outside of their own caliber?

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:18 PM)

I'm conflicted on the subject of marriage rights for shotguns.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:24 PM)

You say, "Damn it, what do you think this is, a shotgun wedding?"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:23 PM)

What do you do if someone wants to bring their concealed-carry to your American wedding?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 01:58 PM)

Benbot, I was streaming the PS4 version of Starlink

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:25 PM)

Ergo their reporting will have its own slant on the facts as they choose, not the most neutral way possible.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:24 PM)

I find it sad to realize that the prestigious New York Times which I trusted a lot as a kid in fact has its own editorial agenda.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:20 PM)

The end result is NOT that stupid bullshit gets equal coverage as reasonable arguments. That would be problematic in itself (the "false balance" bias), but the provlem is that the controversial stupid bullshit gets MORE coverage than the reasonable arguments.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

The media doesn't want to miss the opportunity to report on a controversy, and as a consequence makes sure that the controversial statements reach an audience.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

Because they realized that saying controversial shit is guaranteed to get coverage.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:16 PM)

It's the same here in Germany. Our right-wing moron party is still a political minority, yet they succeed in driving the topics the media keeps reporting.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:15 PM)

The main problem was that Trump was banking on controversy, and the media was reporting controversy because it gave them ratings.


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Posted 08 July 2018 - 06:45 AM

So I don't often go after SDCC exclusives but Primal is ticking a few boxes, primarily the fact it seems to be the only way to finish up the Prime Masters.

 

Problem is I'm in the UK, not the US. What are my best hopes of getting hold of this and, ideally, at a fair price?



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Posted 08 July 2018 - 06:53 AM

It'll honestly depend. Potentially lots of the UK importers will sell them if they can acquire them via Hasbro Asia channels. That definitely happened last year - I got the Revolution boxset from Kapow.

Nothing on Kapow yet this year, but I do notice that ID Toys have a placeholder listing up:

https://www.indemand...-of-the-primes/

Basically, keep an eye on the UK import toy websites and you'll probably be fine.

Edited by Jalaguy, 08 July 2018 - 06:54 AM.


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Posted 08 July 2018 - 09:35 AM

I was thinking about picking him up at TFN, but I know it'd be super expensive, given that the wall of Velocitron sets was like £160 in-person - so I appreciate the investigation into alternate outlets.

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 12:49 PM

Kapow has listing stuff like the special edition Blast Off and Wreck Gar, along with Nemesis Orime. Plus it has managed to get many (though not all) of the various show exclusives. So i'd keep an eye on them.

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 12:55 PM

So I don't often go after SDCC exclusives but Primal is ticking a few boxes, primarily the fact it seems to be the only way to finish up the Prime Masters.

 

Problem is I'm in the UK, not the US. What are my best hopes of getting hold of this and, ideally, at a fair price?

 

If indemand and Kapow fail, it be Ebay most likely but I'm not intersted in getting the Optimal Optimus black deco, while it looks kind of nice, I'm not really feeling attracted to it, thou I recomend you shop around on ebay and look at the postage stuff because some might seem more costly but it could pay the import fees/taxes.


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Posted 15 July 2018 - 10:52 AM

https://www.indemand...-of-the-primes/

 

Pre-order already gone :(



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Posted 15 July 2018 - 11:53 AM

I don't think they've been actually made available yet, they're not really sold out. ID toys have had to mega discount their SDCC exclusives over the last few years but that's a big risk.

But Repugnus lasted ten minutes on Kapow :-(

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Posted 15 July 2018 - 12:14 PM

Yeah. I didn't even know he was listed til he was already gone.

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Posted 15 July 2018 - 12:14 PM

I believe

I don't think they've been actually made available yet, they're not really sold out. ID toys have had to mega discount their SDCC exclusives over the last few years but that's a big risk.

But Repugnus lasted ten minutes on Kapow :-(


Nah, they have listed the SDCC stuff, everything else other than Primal is still available to preorder:

https://www.indemand...gory/sdcc-2018/

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Posted 15 July 2018 - 01:14 PM

hasn't the london Comiccon had shared Hasbro SDCC exclucives in the past?


Edited by Dave Zero1, 15 July 2018 - 01:14 PM.


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Posted 15 July 2018 - 01:38 PM

hasn't the london Comiccon had shared Hasbro SDCC exclucives in the past?


The SDCC 2016 exclusives had an official/Hasbro-sanctioned UK release via A1 Toys, but they barely sold and A1 ended up clearancing the last of the stock, so it didn't happen again in 2017.

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Posted 15 July 2018 - 02:21 PM

If I'm lucky enough to get one of the sets on the 13th I'll totally be looking to sell the Prime Masters that, while realizing they're important to a set for others, I could not care less about.


...was there really any doubt which team I'm supporting this year? :D

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Posted 15 July 2018 - 02:28 PM

EDIT: Took too long to research, others have brought up the fact.

Edited by Nevermore, 15 July 2018 - 02:28 PM.

"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
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Posted 15 July 2018 - 02:37 PM

hasn't the london Comiccon had shared Hasbro SDCC exclucives in the past?

The SDCC 2016 exclusives had an official/Hasbro-sanctioned UK release via A1 Toys, but they barely sold and A1 ended up clearancing the last of the stock, so it didn't happen again in 2017.

Yeah, I have both the 3 pack and Fort Max. They were so desperate to clearance that I got SDCC Maximus for less than the standard version retails here.

They also got stuck with G1 reissues like the Insecticons that were going for silly prices by the end.

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Posted 15 July 2018 - 04:13 PM

hasn't the london Comiccon had shared Hasbro SDCC exclucives in the past?

The SDCC 2016 exclusives had an official/Hasbro-sanctioned UK release via A1 Toys, but they barely sold and A1 ended up clearancing the last of the stock, so it didn't happen again in 2017.


Yeah, I have both the 3 pack and Fort Max. They were so desperate to clearance that I got SDCC Maximus for less than the standard version retails here.

They also got stuck with G1 reissues like the Insecticons that were going for silly prices by the end.


You can still get the Triple Changers and Insecticons from them for 20 and 30 quid respectively!

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Posted 28 July 2018 - 05:11 AM

Any leads on Primal?

 

Please? :(



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Posted 28 July 2018 - 07:38 AM

He's come and gone from Kapow now too, I believe.

At this point, your best options are probably watching eBay or putting out feelers to see if anyone in the US would be willing to middleman you one from HTS once they go up there.

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Posted 28 July 2018 - 11:45 AM

How likely are ebay sellers with this to be bootlegs? Found some from Hong Kong and Taiwan.



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Posted 28 July 2018 - 11:49 AM

Probably not super likely, I don't think KOs normally happen that fast? TFWiki reports that he's actually available at general retail in Taiwan.

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Posted 28 July 2018 - 12:58 PM

Yeah, I'd say they're very unlikely to be KOs.





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