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@  MEDdMI : (13 November 2018 - 11:49 AM)

WITCHCRAFT!

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2018 - 11:40 AM)

Mwahahaha! I am writing this WIRELESSLY from my desktop!

@  unluckiness : (13 November 2018 - 10:28 AM)

yes.

@  Pennpenn : (13 November 2018 - 07:48 AM)

Is that nightmare fuel for wanking or nightmare fuel that is- actually you know what never mind.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2018 - 05:07 AM)

This is the Internet. Everything produces wanking nightmare fuel.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 November 2018 - 01:52 AM)

Yet both have produced wanking nightmare fuel. (Rule 34 is a harsh mistress)

@  fourteenwings : (12 November 2018 - 11:41 PM)

I don't know if "magic animals" and "mecha" abide by the same design principals.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 November 2018 - 09:20 PM)

PS4 controllers are crap. x.x;

@  Paladin : (12 November 2018 - 08:16 PM)

it took me way too long to realize that didn't actually say "wanking nightmare fuel."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (12 November 2018 - 08:14 PM)

I'm quite sure that directors don't make the designs because that would be ludicrous amount of work for a single person.

@  Noideaforaname : (12 November 2018 - 05:35 PM)

I guess "walking nightmare fuel" is an improvement...

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2018 - 04:12 PM)

It’s something when the new Pokemon movie is completely accurate to the original source character designs than the Transformers movies. Michael Bay would have created hyper stylised redesigns of Pokemon and many completely new designs if he was doing it.

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 November 2018 - 01:54 PM)

RIP Stan Lee.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 November 2018 - 04:25 AM)

Ehh.. Except for a couple of people, the video game section isn't that bad.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2018 - 08:27 PM)

It feels like this hasn't been said enough: anybody who cares what people at TFW does would surely just check there themselves.

@  Gryllid : (11 November 2018 - 06:50 PM)

And with the Seinfeld/Cyberverse names, the genders matched up, and some of them seem fitting enough ("Peterman" for a leader figure prone to dramatic pronouncements; "Puddy" for a big, strong, gruff guy, etc.)

@  Gryllid : (11 November 2018 - 06:46 PM)

Well, the codenames aren't completely random. Shatter and Dropkick were "Red Light" and "Blue Light", weren't they? Referencing their colors.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (11 November 2018 - 09:05 AM)

I'm sure the Hasbro logistics guy in charge of assigning the code names would be amused too, if he knew what TFW2005 was.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2018 - 01:30 AM)

Yup. TFW2005.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2018 - 02:57 PM)

Even though we have seen time and again that those names are just randomly applied names from whatever "theme" Hasbro has chosen for the respective line, with no intentional relation between code name and character.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2018 - 02:57 PM)

I love how folks on TFW2005 still assume the code names for toys from new toylines are mystery games Hasbro has created for the fans, and thus are trying to interpret a meaning into those names to guess the character.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2018 - 07:56 PM)

I haven't watched many eps yet... Mainly cause I've gotten where I just wait till seasons end and watch the whole thing.

@  RichardT1977 : (09 November 2018 - 07:23 PM)

I presume he's going to feature heavily in episode 15

@  RichardT1977 : (09 November 2018 - 07:20 PM)

And like I said in one of the discussion threads, his voice reminds me of the English dub of Alexander Armstrong from Fullmetal Alchemist

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2018 - 07:20 PM)

Ahh, I ment shown up as a Main character yet, but I wasn't specific. :D

@  RichardT1977 : (09 November 2018 - 07:19 PM)

He showed up in "Maccadam's", and has at least been heard in a few other prior episodes.

@  abates : (09 November 2018 - 07:06 PM)

Yeah, he's shown up a couple of times.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2018 - 07:01 PM)

I ment in the show.

@  Nevermore : (09 November 2018 - 06:38 PM)

Which one?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2018 - 05:31 PM)

Has Cyberverse Grim even showed up yet?

@  Paladin : (09 November 2018 - 05:26 PM)

now that it's out in the open, can I just say NuRID Grimlock is the most interesting version of the character in TWENTY YEARS?

@  Foffy : (09 November 2018 - 05:08 PM)

grimlock eats sloppily at olive garden (ASMR)

@  abates : (09 November 2018 - 05:07 PM)

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.

@  abates : (09 November 2018 - 05:07 PM)

It could have fit perfectly in Robots in Disguise too. Just have Grimlock waving a pool noodle around and give the line to Drift.

@  abates : (09 November 2018 - 05:07 PM)

Underquoted Transformers: The Movie quotes: "Grimlock, get your noodle out of my face."

@  RichardT1977 : (09 November 2018 - 04:58 PM)

Yeah, IIRC Wilbur was a spring pig.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2018 - 01:48 PM)

I read that as "First sow of the season" and I was about to say that I wasn't aware pigs were typically born in the winter.

@  Paladin : (09 November 2018 - 08:59 AM)

ugh. first snow of the season...

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2018 - 08:22 AM)

Shield agent, that's just nuts...

@  Pennpenn : (09 November 2018 - 03:56 AM)

Though there are rumours he's secretly a Pine.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (09 November 2018 - 01:15 AM)

Idea: in a universe wherein plant alt-modes are common, Maccadam transforms into a macadamia tree.

@  Waspinator : (08 November 2018 - 08:51 PM)

That apparently gets you the help you want. https://www.schlockm....com/2010-04-14

@  wonko the sane? : (08 November 2018 - 07:01 PM)

Eh, just conference call it to the suicide hotline AI.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2018 - 05:00 PM)

Soon we'll have AI making the calls.

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2018 - 04:04 PM)

Sure, but you can't try to counter-troll them and see if you can annoy them into giving up first.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 November 2018 - 03:29 PM)

Robots are cheaper, and don't have mental break downs when people swear at them. Considering how many call centers these days are scams: it's not hard to see why folks don't want to work in them.

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2018 - 03:25 PM)

I miss getting real people for spam calls instead of bots. The bots are no fun.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 November 2018 - 03:24 PM)

I like the robot from "the visa mastercard rewards center". It feels so cathartic to slam the phone on it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (08 November 2018 - 02:57 PM)

A lot of our phone scams up here come from India, pretending to be Revenue Canada. I think they mostly target recent immigrants who aren't familiar with the system, but they've gotten lots of clueless seniors, too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2018 - 02:52 PM)

I like the ones that fake the caller ID so it looks like your own number is calling you.


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#1 Jalaguy

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 12:23 AM

Discuss the issue here!

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 01:26 AM

Well I didn't think much of that. It's all just slightly too long a stretch of "just believe Roberts and take everything at face value" and that's just kind of exhausting. I need another shoe but it's still too high to reach.

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 01:50 AM

It felt very much like a "plot mechanics" sort of issue, shuffling pieces around the board so that the finale story can properly begin next time.

It didn't thrill me, but some of the mytharc plot movement was interesting and nothing actively disappointed me, and at this point I'm counting that as a win with Lost Light.

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 02:42 AM

It felt very much like a "plot mechanics" sort of issue, shuffling pieces around the board so that the finale story can properly begin next time.

It didn't thrill me, but some of the mytharc plot movement was interesting and nothing actively disappointed me, and at this point I'm counting that as a win with Lost Light.

 

Pretty much this. It's obviously a set-up issue, necessitated by cutting everything short. Some interesting things happen, but often without the room to breathe they needed.



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Posted 04 July 2018 - 04:29 AM

Infodumps (the lampshading isn't cute after the first fifty times, Jim), Megatronwank (turns out that what Rodimus needed to do to grow up was emulate a genocidal monster who later felt bad about it!), and C-list fan faves being casually offed to add Stakes (bye, Bluestreak, Roberts wasn't using you so your death gets to be set dressing!).

Not a fan.

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 07:04 AM

Yeaaaaah, I wasn't really feeling this either.  Also, EJ's art seemed a tad rushed in places.  I did like Swerve and Misfire connecting though.

 

C-list fan faves being casually offed to add Stakes (bye, Bluestreak, Roberts wasn't using you so your death gets to be set dressing!).

 

Not only was he killed, but he was just killed to set up Ratchet snark.  I don't know... I think Roberts has a reverse on this Sparkeater thing.  I hope so, because if no one else, Perceptor at least certainly deserves better.



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Posted 04 July 2018 - 08:06 AM

I'm finding it hard to get upset about offing characters when IDW is going to off everyone in the entire continuity shortly tbh.

 

Agree Su's artwork seemed rushed, but there's definitely some good there - the shuttle approaching the Lost Light gives a sense of scale that the descent to Mederi didn't last issue.



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Posted 04 July 2018 - 09:26 AM

Its a damn shame Su was used on this book and not Optimus Prime.


 

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 05:59 PM

What did you do with the baby?

 

Nothing makes sense anymore.

 

Okay, I laughed, but this issue is seriously a nothingburger.

 

Side characters getting massacred for a joke, a joke! You're better than this, Roberts.

 

Oh boy Rodimus is drawing on his inner Megatron fanboy to sort out his issues.

 

Okay phew, the small Cygate bit was good.

 

Who's the guy at the end with Getaway? Scorponok?



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Posted 04 July 2018 - 06:17 PM

Side characters getting massacred for a joke, a joke! You're better than this, Roberts.

 

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 06:40 PM

Its a damn shame Su was used on this book and not Optimus Prime.


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Posted 04 July 2018 - 06:47 PM

Roberts posted on Twitter that Bluestreak at least wasnt dead which is good I guess but if you have to keep going on twitter to assure readers that characters that pretty clearly died on panel arent really dead maybe you should stop giving characters fake shock deaths all the time.

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 07:02 PM

 

Side characters getting massacred for a joke, a joke! You're better than this, Roberts.

 

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I mean it's not like the Overlord storyline would have been improved if Ratchet came across Pipes' mangled corpse, tread upon by Overlord, and quipped "eh, he was always a flat character anyway."

 

This just seems beneath him, but I guess with Roberts confirming Bluestreak is still alive, that it's meaningless to complain now.


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Posted 04 July 2018 - 07:10 PM

I don't really go here anymore, but the whole "Killing these characters off isn't a big deal because the universe is ending soon" doesn't sit well with me because people kept saying "Just give Roberts time. He'll make these characters' actions make sense and flesh them out and justify their perspective" over and over, and now we're at the end, and... we've barely gotten that? The issue that was meant to do that had them getting treated like mind puppets and focused on Getaway becoming a cartoonish supervillain. And now they're being killed off ingloriously.

 

The fact Roberts ran out the clock doesn't really justify things.


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Posted 04 July 2018 - 08:34 PM

Roberts posted on Twitter that Bluestreak at least wasnt dead which is good I guess but if you have to keep going on twitter to assure readers that characters that pretty clearly died on panel arent really dead maybe you should stop giving characters fake shock deaths all the time.

Yeah, sorry, I'll believe that when I see it. Remember his whole "Only 2-3 people died in issue 12" thing? And yet here we don't see any of the Protectobots. 

 

Man, remember when Barber spent an entire issue on showing the heartfelt emotions occurring around Sideswipe's death? And that was for freaking SIDESWIPE!


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Posted 04 July 2018 - 08:54 PM

^No yeah Im totally with you here. If the only way people are supposed to know whether or not a character died is to quickly check the authors twitter after reading the issue maybe the authors not really doing the best job conveying whats going on in his mind.

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 10:57 PM

 

Side characters getting massacred for a joke, a joke! You're better than this, Roberts.

 
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I mean it's not like the Overlord storyline would have been improved if Ratchet came across Pipes' mangled corpse, tread upon by Overlord, and quipped "eh, he was always a flat character anyway."

Isn't that what the Tripodeca joke was? For both Pipes AND Rewind?

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 06:21 AM

I don't really go here anymore, but the whole "Killing these characters off isn't a big deal because the universe is ending soon" doesn't sit well with me because people kept saying "Just give Roberts time. He'll make these characters' actions make sense and flesh them out and justify their perspective" over and over, and now we're at the end, and... we've barely gotten that? The issue that was meant to do that had them getting treated like mind puppets and focused on Getaway becoming a cartoonish supervillain. And now they're being killed off ingloriously.

 

The fact Roberts ran out the clock doesn't really justify things.

 

I certainly wouldn't have said that about side characters. Bluestreak is a red shirt, and always has been in this continuity.

 

The last thing this book needs is to try and flesh out more characters. It has 50% too many as it is.



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Posted 05 July 2018 - 06:56 AM

Bluestreak maybe, but Perceptor at least was a PRETTY major character in the first arc, and previous stories gave us decent insight into Hound and Blaster. To see them casually turned into nothing but fodder for a shocking "It's-the-'end of the world'-so-why-not" finale is trite, at best.

 

Also, it shoudln't matter that the continuity is wrapping up. With the exception of the Marvel Comics and some of their continuations (*coughRegenerationOnecough*), every other continuity managed to wrap up without needlessly exterminating half of its AutobotsTransformers.


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Posted 05 July 2018 - 08:52 AM

Well, they said they were working on a cure, so I don't think the Sparkeatered ones are "dead". But the ones who got eviscerated - Mainframe, Jackpot, Bluestreak - are all fan-fave C-listers. It's a very Furman-y "I'm not using these guys so let's kill them off for the sake of Having Deaths!" attitude.

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