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@  Bass X0 : (24 June 2018 - 03:10 AM)

I just realised that Unsolved Mysteries has the same initials as Ultra Magnus.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (22 June 2018 - 05:18 AM)

Yeah, really... what a shitshow.

@  Pennpenn : (22 June 2018 - 04:53 AM)

This week has been an almost unmitigated damn nightmare. It can go die in some metaphorical trash fire where it belongs.

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2018 - 04:48 AM)

I feel your pain.

@  Whirl Maximus : (22 June 2018 - 04:47 AM)

This time ten years ago I was looking forward to Transformers 2.

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2018 - 01:41 AM)

There's room enough for five more cabinets.

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2018 - 01:41 AM)

Once I've settled in and earned money again, I can start with the third wall.

@  Plokatron : (21 June 2018 - 10:05 PM)

I'm still working on my comic just been trying to start up a Custom Lego shop. Won't be too long but I'm still here.

@  Dracula : (21 June 2018 - 10:02 PM)

(really though, great display)

@  Dracula : (21 June 2018 - 10:02 PM)

you're gonna have a buildup of dinosaur electrons.

@  Dracula : (21 June 2018 - 10:01 PM)

he needs his dino-breathing room! :D

@  Dracula : (21 June 2018 - 10:01 PM)

Trypticon looks a bit cramped in there, nevermore!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 June 2018 - 05:54 PM)

Sad thing is we've thought more about the foam than the show writers ever did. :D

@  Nevermore : (21 June 2018 - 05:47 PM)

https://imgur.com/ky0qGVD

@  Nevermore : (21 June 2018 - 05:47 PM)

Current status of my collection room in my new, still-under-construction apartment:

@  wonko the sane? : (21 June 2018 - 05:31 PM)

Depends on whether or not the motive engines for the vehicle mode are the same as the robot mode. Cause we know they use energon for everything.

@  Bass X0 : (21 June 2018 - 05:17 PM)

I was thinking today if Transformers would carry the fuel for their alternate mode in their robot mode? They'd have to, right?

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 June 2018 - 01:28 PM)

I mean, the clear meta reason is so non-Transformers don't die horribly on their ships, but that's not as fun to speculate about.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 June 2018 - 10:43 AM)

There's also lots of chemical reactions which only precipite with oxygen.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 June 2018 - 09:27 AM)

Oxygen is obviously a native gas on cybertron and also let’s the equipment “breath” so to speak.

@  Cybersnark : (21 June 2018 - 08:47 AM)

@Wonko; Yeah, but why oxygen? There are a lot of non-flammable gasses they could've used. And we've seen TFs using radio to communicate in vacuum.

@  Robowang : (21 June 2018 - 08:29 AM)

As the Cream of Wheat glugged forth from his meatus, his mind focused on only one thing: Mommy loved him so.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 June 2018 - 08:17 AM)

there's lots you can't do in vaccuum. The least of which is audio communication.

@  Cybersnark : (21 June 2018 - 08:04 AM)

Though that begs the question of why a robotic species would keep their ships pressurized with oxygen in the first place.

@  Pennpenn : (21 June 2018 - 07:29 AM)

Guess it's just me playing FTL recently. Opening a few doors out to the void is a good way to deal with fires and rude visitors.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 June 2018 - 07:14 AM)

Plus it depends on what part of the ship, can’t easily vent an interior area.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 June 2018 - 06:34 AM)

depends on what's wrong. If you need to get something out and away, would also need to have started in a pressurised space to begin with. If you just want to vent extra heat: it wouldn't work as well as vaccuum is an insulator.

@  Pennpenn : (21 June 2018 - 03:12 AM)

If they're in space wouldn't it make more sense just to vent the area affected to vacuum?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 June 2018 - 07:16 PM)

I mean the foam was dangerous, but in space they probably put out the fires, then wore the equivalent of a hazmat suit to clean up.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 June 2018 - 04:38 PM)

Only on special occassions.

@  Paladin : (20 June 2018 - 03:50 PM)

you don't?

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 June 2018 - 02:17 PM)

I mean, we don't usually use asbestos on our souls.....

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 June 2018 - 10:11 AM)

*looks at asbestos" Yep... Cause we've never used something harmful as a fire retardant. x.x;

@  unluckiness : (20 June 2018 - 06:32 AM)

fire retardant foam is so powerful it can extinguish even sparks

@  Pennpenn : (20 June 2018 - 05:23 AM)

I mean, this is a species that can be disabled (possibly fatally after a while?) by flame retardant foam, so yeah.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 June 2018 - 01:28 AM)

Transformers are exactly as resilient as the plot needs them to be, so who knows, it could be lethal today.

@  RichardT1977 : (19 June 2018 - 08:50 PM)

Which is why Marvel Megatron was interested in Dr. Biggles-Jones' railgun design and had it grafted onto his G2 tank mode.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 June 2018 - 08:43 PM)

Doesn't really matter what transformers are made of. If you send a 10 pound ball of metal flying at a good enough velocity, you will do damage.

@  Soft Snow : (19 June 2018 - 05:53 PM)

A regular cannon that shoots cannon balls and does nothing to other transformers because they are robots but would put a mean whole in the side of your wooden boat...

@  Shiny Chariot : (19 June 2018 - 05:44 PM)

wtf did the shoutbox do to my emoji

@  Shiny Chariot : (19 June 2018 - 05:44 PM)

also @ patchy its whatever your heart desires 😘

@  Shiny Chariot : (19 June 2018 - 05:44 PM)

shes not a drill but she is a grill

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 June 2018 - 05:40 PM)

POTP CINDERSAUR IS A GIRL THIS IS NOT A DRILL

@  Patchouli Kn... : (19 June 2018 - 05:18 PM)

A fusion cannon, or just a regular cannon?

@  Shiny Chariot : (19 June 2018 - 05:04 PM)

megatron but he turns into a ford fusion with a cannon badly welded onto the roof

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 June 2018 - 02:22 PM)

My Little Fusion Cannon: Friendship Through Tyranny.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 June 2018 - 02:01 PM)

was that supposed to sound sexual

@  wonko the sane? : (19 June 2018 - 01:55 PM)

I'm pretty sure that megatrons cannon is his best friend, so that friendship is magic stuff won't work.

@  MEDdMI : (19 June 2018 - 01:16 PM)

And then the magic ponies force everyone to be friends FOREVERRRRRRR

@  wonko the sane? : (19 June 2018 - 12:06 PM)

Or... megatron just goes to war against skynet cause he can't stand the competition.


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 04:50 PM

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Another new episode is approaching!

And with it, comes the mid-season hiatus.

A villain returns to dish out some revenge..

On a dish...best served cold!

 

New episode airs this Saturday, June 9th

at 11:30a.m. EST / 8:30a.m. PST

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SYNOPSIS!

 

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THE MEAN 6:

 

Queen Chrysalis returns, ready to exact her revenge on Starlight Glimmer and the Mane 6!

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Come visit us in our Allsparkle Discord Chat as the new episode airs!

 



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Posted 07 June 2018 - 05:08 PM

Wait...a big villian show-down...mid-season? They never do epic episodes mid-season. This is madness!
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Posted 07 June 2018 - 05:13 PM

Madness?  THIS! IS!  PONYVILLE!

 

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 05:23 PM

I hope whoever wrote the episode didn't intend it to be a surprise.

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 05:41 PM

I don't think anyone who writes for this series is under the illusion that there's going to be anything left unspoiled by the time any given episode aires.
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Posted 07 June 2018 - 05:41 PM

Can we get shankings now?!?!?

 

In all seriousness: I am anxiously awaiting this one. I don't like the upcoming hiatus, but midseason big bad show down, and with a title like "the mean six" there's either going to be mind control or clones of some kind in there. Granted, chrissy already did the cloning thing once already, but tried and true methods and all that. Plus it could reveal whether or not there are still feral changelings out there.



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Posted 07 June 2018 - 08:05 PM

This is the episode I wanted to see too! Why did it have to happen while I was on my vacation!? I won't be able to watch it until Saturday... Night!

At this rate Fnu will believe I no longer have any interest in engaging in pony related group activities! Quick, Caldwin, you have to get a message out to Fnu before its to late!

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 08:08 PM

Hey, Fnu? Read above.
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Posted 07 June 2018 - 08:34 PM

Thanks, Caldwin. I hope it reaches him in time...

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 11:13 PM

*sighs*

 

This was another leaked episode... I hope you have a different reaction Wonko, because you said you seem to match my opinions on these things and well...

 

I found this to be... not really good.

 

Hopefully you guys will feel different.


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 06:55 AM

I have very mixed feelings regarding this episode.

 

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But yeah, between the initial leaks, Finland and finally the UK, this was another fully spoiled episode, and I don't feel too bad about that. It wasn't horrible, but it wasn't the best thing ever.


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 08:45 AM

Well I didn't fully watch the episode, but saw enough and well:

 

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 11:00 AM

I'm not reading spoilers but now I'm scared. I want this episode to be good. Chrysalis has been a great villain.

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 09:55 AM

I will enjoy it regardless of others opinions. Chrysalis is my favorite villian after all. Like one of the most successful female villains in media... For a short time, at least...

She can breed more normal changelings, right?

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 11:39 AM

FnuAw - Today at 9:39 AM
Morning.

Caldwin - Today at 11:02 AM
So...is this where we do the new episode discussions? And since this is Discord instead of the old chat, do I have to prove who I am?

Scavenger - Today at 11:03 AM
i think you do..

What are your feelings on [scrubbed]?

Caldwin - Today at 11:03 AM
o_0

Shadewing - Today at 11:03 AM
Ah, glad to see you finally joined us "Caldwin" if that's your real name.

Caldwin - Today at 11:04 AM
Well, technically, it isn't. It's a character I made up when I was in college. Some of you even read the fic...for which I eternally apologize

Oh, Denny's commercial. I don't really care for Denny's, but the commercial just made me hungry

These Geico commercials have gotten really stupid. I miss the Gecko.

Oh...great! Last weeks episode, only I can't fast forward through the commercials!

FnuAw - Today at 11:08 AM
They got rid of the gecko?

 

Caldwin - Today at 11:09 AM
I don't know if they totally got rid of him, but they are doing other...not so good...stuff

 

Shadewing - Today at 11:09 AM
He's still around, I remember him being in an infintiy war-based commerical a few months back

 

Scavenger - Today at 11:10 AM
is the screen blacking out for ya'll?

 

Caldwin - Today at 11:12 AM
Scav..nope

 

FnuAw - Today at 11:12 AM
Nope.

 

Scavenger - Today at 11:14 AM
when an actor's been doing a part for a while, their fee gets bigger....Gecko costs a lot, so he 's only used for big things.

(Heard he's an ego maniac behind the scenes, says he's bigger than Kermit)

Caldwin - Today at 11:15 AM
And he always seemed so nice!

 

Scavenger - Today at 11:16 AM
ACTING!

Fame gone to his head

Caldwin - Today at 11:16 AM
My whole perception of the world is ruined!

FnuAw - Today at 11:17 AM
He's kind of a relic. This isn't the age of company mascots anymore.

Caldwin - Today at 11:17 AM

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Caldwin - Today at 11:22 AM
So, is Cozy going to become a recurring character...cause I'm not completely sure how much I care for her

Heya, Scarlet!(edited)

Still love that there's now a "your Mom" joke in MLP history

FnuAw - Today at 11:27 AM
I love Starlight. So much.

Dvandom - Today at 11:28 AM
Allo

FnuAw - Today at 11:28 AM
Ello.

Caldwin - Today at 11:28 AM
Starlight > Twilight. In fact, if she could just bump off Twilight, like send her on a really long vacation (to the bottom of the river in concrete shoes), the show would be so much better!

Ello, Dave

Dvandom - Today at 11:29 AM
As a supporting character, Starlight isn't required to carry the Idiot Ball when a new writer wants to have someone re-re-relearn a lesson.

FnuAw - Today at 11:29 AM
But with Twilight gone, who would be the new starter waifu for reformed villains?

Caldwin - Today at 11:30 AM
Dave: True...okay, keep Twilight...but make sure she knows her place

FnuAw - Today at 11:30 AM
The school!

Dvandom - Today at 11:30 AM
Rita Skeeter?

Caldwin - Today at 11:31 AM
Oh, hey! I remember this from a convention promo

FnuAw - Today at 11:31 AM
Oh my.

Dvandom - Today at 11:31 AM
Got Dash's worst side.

Er, best side.

Caldwin - Today at 11:31 AM
Did she just take a pic of Dash's butt?

Yup!

Scavenger - Today at 11:32 AM
i seem to recall some voodoo i learned in middle school needing those components

Dvandom - Today at 11:32 AM
It would be ironic if Rarity's voodoo whatsis turns out wrong because she's wearing tail extensions.

Caldwin - Today at 11:32 AM
So, how can they possibly fit a whole villian episode in 30 minutes? These have always been two-parters before. I have a bad feeling about this.

Scavenger - Today at 11:32 AM
(I'm from New Orleans..it was an elective)

FnuAw - Today at 11:32 AM
They sure do play with fire sometimes.

Dvandom - Today at 11:32 AM
Trixie and the Alicorn Amulet was a one-parter, yes?

Caldwin - Today at 11:32 AM
Remind me to never go to New Orleans

Was it? For some reason I thought that was a two-parter too

Dvandom - Today at 11:33 AM
Monopoly: light bondage edition

Scavenger - Today at 11:34 AM
Monopoly: Real World Edition.

Caldwin - Today at 11:34 AM
So...many...commercials. I sometimes forget the perks of watching this later on DVR

Scavenger - Today at 11:35 AM
"Congressional pardon for destroying economy, take another turn)

Caldwin - Today at 11:35 AM
Oh dear! She's talking to herself

Dvandom - Today at 11:35 AM
Monologuing the trees.

Fluttershy gets to be a tree.

Caldwin - Today at 11:35 AM
What did the Incredibles teach up about monologuing

Yeah, she's cracked.

FnuAw - Today at 11:36 AM
She's lonely without her hive.

Dvandom - Today at 11:36 AM
They all look slightly desaturated.

Caldwin - Today at 11:36 AM
She should've excepted Starlights offer of redemption. She'd be doing a lot less talking to herself

Dvandom - Today at 11:37 AM
Since when is time with the Mane 6 ever quiet, Flutters?

I agree with Starlight on camping.

Caldwin - Today at 11:37 AM
Rarity packs light and AJ is overpacking? What is this madness?

AJ"s cutie mark is the wrong color!

Dvandom - Today at 11:39 AM
Maybe making a team out of anti-friendship avatars wasn't the best plan for unit cohesion.

Antisparkle, the Element of Sarcasm.

Caldwin - Today at 11:39 AM
Pinkie, you're being annoying again

FnuAw - Today at 11:40 AM
I need to learn to turn my phone off on Saturday mornings. Fricking heck.

Caldwin - Today at 11:40 AM
Starlight's not having much fun...is she?

Dvandom - Today at 11:40 AM
Starting to look like the best outcome for this episode would be for the two groups to never meet, and the Mane 6 never even find out about the evil plan.

FnuAw - Today at 11:41 AM
That would be funny.

Caldwin - Today at 11:41 AM
Hey! Fluttershy's cutiemark is the wrong color...Dash's mark is upside down. You know for a species built on infiltration, Chrysalis isn't really good at it

Dvandom - Today at 11:41 AM
Well, she IS at the "I talk to the trees, that's why they put me away" stage of loneliness.

Caldwin - Today at 11:42 AM
Darn, I hate Denny's...but darn it all...they're making hungry!

STARVING!!

Dvandom - Today at 11:42 AM
Is the Play-Doh kitchen thing making you hungry?

FnuAw - Today at 11:42 AM
I haven't had pancakes in too long.

Caldwin - Today at 11:43 AM
Hmm...I do live close to an IHop

Scavenger - Today at 11:43 AM
i am thinking of making pancakes after pony

Dvandom - Today at 11:43 AM
iHob

Kinetic Rock looks like they're playing with overcooked brown rice....

Caldwin - Today at 11:44 AM
Dave, yeah, I was thinking the same thing

That kid blowing dandalion seeds in my face is making me want to sneeze

Dvandom - Today at 11:45 AM
[evilly rubs wings together]

NegaDash

Caldwin - Today at 11:45 AM
Shy doesn't realise that Dash's cutimark is on upside down?

FnuAw - Today at 11:45 AM
GET OFF MY PHONE!

Dvandom - Today at 11:45 AM
She tries to politely avert her eyes from Dashiebutt.

Caldwin - Today at 11:45 AM
prude

Fnu! Turn...the phone...OFF

Dvandom - Today at 11:46 AM
This master plan is never really gonna get past the first powerpoint....

Caldwin - Today at 11:46 AM
So...is there going to be any fighting in this villian episode?

Scavenger - Today at 11:46 AM
Jerome fan art incoming

Dvandom - Today at 11:47 AM
PRECIOUS

FnuAw - Today at 11:48 AM
Yeah I hope these plots intersect but end up going their own ways, never resolved.

Caldwin - Today at 11:48 AM
No one recognises that the cutie marks aren't right. How long have these ponies known eachother???

Dvandom - Today at 11:48 AM
It might be that this is only a viewer cue, like the desaturated colors.

Wow, that's an old callback.

Caldwin - Today at 11:50 AM
Can't we all just get along? That's a reference a few decades too late, isn't it?

Dvandom - Today at 11:50 AM
Exactly.

And a touch tacky, since it was based on the LA riots of the early 90s.

FnuAw - Today at 11:51 AM
Get off my phone. GET OFF MY PHONE!

Caldwin - Today at 11:51 AM
TURN...THE DAMN..THING....OFF!!!!

FnuAw - Today at 11:51 AM
Is the episode as good as it looks?

Caldwin - Today at 11:51 AM
Meh!

Scavenger - Today at 11:51 AM
fake caldwin, sad

Caldwin - Today at 11:51 AM
Right now it's in a holding pattern, going nowhere

Less than 10 minutes left, they better get on with it.

Dvandom - Today at 11:52 AM
The worst thing it could do at this point is to go somewhere, I think. Absurdist planfail has a charm of its own, but there's not a lot of ways this could resolve without being a disappointment.

FnuAw - Today at 11:53 AM
I don't want a neat resolution. I want Chrysalis just lost in the woods, stuck with these idiots, for a length of time we're left to only imagine.

Dvandom - Today at 11:53 AM
MINEmInEMIne

Caldwin - Today at 11:53 AM
Well, at least AJ's load's easier to carry now

Dvandom - Today at 11:54 AM
Speaking of old references....

and slightly newer.

"That's the ticket" is even older than "can't we all just get along."

Caldwin - Today at 11:54 AM
Poor Starlight! How much abuse can one pony take?

Rarity's been there before. She should no better than to go right over the edge

FnuAw - Today at 11:57 AM
Yes. Go home. Never meet Chrysalis. Please.

Aww.

Caldwin - Today at 11:57 AM
Wait...that's it? This is all they have to do to defeat Chrysalis? This...wha? That's rather...anticlimatic!

Dvandom - Today at 11:57 AM
The NegaPonies get too close to the Tree of Harmony and it vaporizes them.

Caldwin - Today at 11:57 AM
Chrysalis still knows where the tree is, right?

Dvandom - Today at 11:58 AM
"I can hear you, you know!" - Chryssy

Caldwin - Today at 11:59 AM
Uh oh! I sense a "To be continued"

Dvandom - Today at 11:59 AM
Huh, I was right.

Caldwin - Today at 11:59 AM
Or not. Huh!

FnuAw - Today at 11:59 AM
YES!

Dvandom - Today at 12:00 PM
Team Changeling Blasting Off AGAAAAAAINNNN!!!!

Caldwin - Today at 12:00 PM
Well that was...different

Shadewing - Today at 12:00 PM
that's clearly settign up for something

Scavenger - Today at 12:00 PM
that was kindof a horrorific end to the negaponies

FnuAw - Today at 12:00 PM
It's not the 'Grumpy Chrysalis lost in the woods' ending I was hoping for, but close enough.

Caldwin - Today at 12:01 PM
A villain episode with no fighting...in fact, the heroes never even realize they met the villains. What the?

Dvandom - Today at 12:01 PM
And the villains never realized they met the heroes.

NegaJack came closest to realizing.

Caldwin - Today at 12:02 PM
Shadewing...yeah, I thought it was building to something...but...Chrysalis seemed like she was soundly beaten

Scavenger - Today at 12:02 PM
Twidark I think knew it

Dvandom - Today at 12:03 PM
But if she did, she was too wrapped up in scheming to tell anyone.

Scavenger - Today at 12:03 PM
well, it didn't matter..she just needed to get to the elements, not deal with the heroes

Guardian Prime - Today at 12:03 PM
Unless this leads up to something later on, there didn't seem to be much point to this episode. I'll have to watch this again later.

FnuAw - Today at 12:03 PM
Why does it need to have a point?

Scavenger - Today at 12:04 PM
it restablished Chysalis and let the actors have some fun with variant characters

Dvandom - Today at 12:04 PM
It seemed to be more of a "Remember, Chryssi is still out there," episode. Whether it's to set up her eventual reformation, or to have her team up with the evil accreditor to shut down the school in the finale, dunno.

Caldwin - Today at 12:05 PM
Well, I guess it's getting late enough I better actually start the day. Later all!

Dvandom - Today at 12:05 PM
And, frankly, it worked better as absurdist no-point storytelling.

Shadewing - Today at 12:05 PM
I think the elements flashing black could be something

Scavenger - Today at 12:05 PM
reverse twilight has gone from depressed to evil

Dvandom - Today at 12:06 PM
It seemed to be the Tree recognizing evil and preparing to deal with it.

Guardian Prime - Today at 12:06 PM
Will have to catch a replay of this later. I missed pieces of it.

FnuAw - Today at 12:10 PM
It was fun.

Guardian Prime - Today at 12:11 PM
I guess the hiatus begins.

Dvandom - Today at 12:11 PM
Yep.

FnuAw - Today at 12:12 PM
I think the hiatus begins on a high note.

Scavenger - Today at 12:12 PM
ok.. someone go make me pancakes

Guardian Prime - Today at 12:13 PM
Time to run. Later.

FnuAw - Today at 12:14 PM
I guess it's transcript time.

Dvandom - Today at 12:14 PM
nods

 

Allspark broke the formatting. I had to go line by line.
 
I could not disagree more with the sentiment that this was a pointless episode. The point is Chrysalis having a horrible day. What more could you want?
 
There's no need to have a big battle just to have a battle. Not every appearance of a major villain needs to be the latest Armageddon. The villains still exist when they're not launching big schemes that demand action from the heroes. Sometimes they launch schemes that completely fail to get off the ground. Sometimes they gotta leave their lair just to get groceries. We just don't normally get those stories.

 

There's a trope for this. 'You can't thwart stage 1.' Well this time stage 1 did get thwarted, without the heroes even realizing it. I see this episode as doing something different, and I liked it.

 

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 12:18 PM

I still need to catch a replay to see the parts I missed to make some sense of this episode, but I figured there wouldn't be a big boss battle for this ep to begin with and wasn't expecting one, considering it's the middle of the season.  Sure enough, no battle.  Save those for the season finales/premieres.



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Posted 09 June 2018 - 01:04 PM

I didn't see it as a waste of time. In fact, this will probably be one I go back and watch a few times.

It just surprised me is all. After 8 seasons, you come to think you know what to expect. Villians only show up during two-parters for the more actiony episodes. But then this one comes along and throws a curveball.

Which is actually good. One of the main complaints I'd been having was that the series had been getting same old same old. This season so far has finally shown that they still have a few surprises to throw our way. I like that.

Just took me most of the episode to try and figure what the heck they were playing at was all.
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Posted 09 June 2018 - 03:25 PM

I couldn't disagree more. It WAS a pointless episode.

 

Why? Because in the end they fumbled a good idea. An evil Mane 6. There is a LOT that could be done with that, and this is what they gave us, and you know why I feel it isn't that good?

 

Because they "Mean 6" are gone now. We won't be seeing them again.

 

We could have still gotten this episode AND kept them around to do the 'bigger stuff' later. But we didn't.

 

The mane six didn't even realize there were evil clones of themselves. It all in all ended up just being a waste of time.

 

I could not disagree more with the sentiment that this was a pointless episode. The point is Chrysalis having a horrible day. What more could you want?

 

For them to take a damn risk. Pony can be entertaining, but most of the time they play it safe. This was the safest you could play it with evil clones, and it's very disappointing.

 

Gen 1 had freaking Grogar and the city where if unicorns teleported they vanished and no one knew what happened to them. There was a Zebra that basically stole their souls, and a witch that sucked their youth out.

 

Where are those stories? Look I like ponies and all, but I think after eight years we can be a bit more mature with the plots now. The kids can handle it. Give me a threat.

 

There's no need to have a big battle just to have a battle. Not every appearance of a major villain needs to be the latest Armageddon. The villains still exist when they're not launching big schemes that demand action from the heroes. Sometimes they launch schemes that completely fail to get off the ground. Sometimes they gotta leave their lair just to get groceries. We just don't normally get those stories.

 

 

No there isn't. Hell if this was just about Chrysalis and the mean six being lost in the forest I think it would have been just fine. But throw in the mane six just to do the 'Oh! Oh! The gang doesn't know that's not their Rarity! Isn't that hilarious!?"

 

No, no it is not.

 

Also, pretty sure we don't normally get those stories because you know, they aren't usually that interesting to see. Fraid that's how I feel about this one.

 

 

There's a trope for this. 'You can't thwart stage 1.' Well this time stage 1 did get thwarted, without the heroes even realizing it. I see this episode as doing something different, and I liked it.

 

That's the problem with it though. The mane six will never know what happened, We could have gotten something great, but instead they played it safe and tossed the idea aside, never to be used again.

 

What a waste.


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Posted 09 June 2018 - 04:42 PM

I couldn't disagree more. It WAS a pointless episode.
 
Why? Because in the end they fumbled a good idea. An evil Mane 6. There is a LOT that could be done with that, and this is what they gave us, and you know why I feel it isn't that good?
 
Because they "Mean 6" are gone now. We won't be seeing them again.
 
We could have still gotten this episode AND kept them around to do the 'bigger stuff' later. But we didn't.
 
The mane six didn't even realize there were evil clones of themselves. It all in all ended up just being a waste of time.


Fair point, they didn't have to write the Mean Six out like that. As I said in the chat that I would have preferred an ending with Chrysalis and the Mean Six lost in the woods. They could have argued over the whole end credits while Chrysalis just groans.

But, there's something to be said for not letting an idea wear out its welcome. I can't think of anything particularly interesting to do with the Mean Six if they were able to return for a second episode.

For them to take a damn risk. Pony can be entertaining, but most of the time they play it safe. This was the safest you could play it with evil clones, and it's very disappointing.
 
Gen 1 had freaking Grogar and the city where if unicorns teleported they vanished and no one knew what happened to them. There was a Zebra that basically stole their souls, and a witch that sucked their youth out.
 
Where are those stories? Look I like ponies and all, but I think after eight years we can be a bit more mature with the plots now. The kids can handle it. Give me a threat.


I would understand this point more if we hadn't already gotten two season finale two parters with Chrysalis, three if you count an alternate timeline, plus a bunch of comics. Today's episode indicates she's probably going to be back again. I don't understand what you mean here.

Does it count at all as "not playing it safe" to have the usually correct Princess Twilight Sparkle proudly thinking she's delivering the episode's lesson while the audience knows she has no idea what happened at all, making an ironic mockery of this whole lesson thing Hasbro likes this show to do? I enjoyed that bit.

No there isn't. Hell if this was just about Chrysalis and the mean six being lost in the forest I think it would have been just fine. But throw in the mane six just to do the 'Oh! Oh! The gang doesn't know that's not their Rarity! Isn't that hilarious!?"
 
No, no it is not.
 
Also, pretty sure we don't normally get those stories because you know, they aren't usually that interesting to see. Fraid that's how I feel about this one.

It certainly isn't the most interesting plot ever, but I find this version of it more interesting than usual because the heroes never figured out that that's not their Rarity. They just wrote it off as a bad day and went on with their lives, oblivious to what they were just part of. For once they got to blindly wander through someone else's adventure.

It's like what I hoped would happen to Sweetie Belle a couple episodes ago. I hoped she'd never find out that the pie wasn't for her and her plotline would be left dangling as a gag. Usually everything gets tied together so neatly and it makes me happy when that doesn't happen.

It reminds me of Seinfeldtype humor. Two mostly unrelated plots crisscross in some farcial way then continue on in their own separate directions, with someone ending up having a horrible day, sometimes for reasons they'll never know.

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 04:54 PM

I think we got about as much out of the Mean 6 as we could, feasibly.  Too much more and it would grate.  The IDEA might return, with Chryssi realizing that maybe "exact opposites" might have been a bad idea, and trying a subtler variant.  Or just turning into the Mane 6 herself, one at a time, to try to sow disharmony.  

 

I did like that she's decided that she's arching SG now.  And we're seeing the sort of failure-to-launch plot that's normally left out entirely, or at best shown in a flashback montage, a nice change of pace.

 

Pointless?  Yes, and amusingly so.  Any actual confrontation would have been anticlimactic.

 

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