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@  Sabrblade : (23 October 2018 - 11:27 AM)

One could argue that Optimus Prime has, in recent years, been performed less like a person and more like a computer. :p

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 11:23 AM)

The beautiful thing about the franchise is that it's big enough to endure. You can walk away for a while and come back later to see if you like whats new.

@  EShadowP : (23 October 2018 - 11:06 AM)

But that's one of my many reasons to be tremendously bored with the state of TF fiction. (Others include: hey, let's have the Transformers actually transform sometimes.)

@  EShadowP : (23 October 2018 - 11:04 AM)

I'm saying, there are levels. The closest anyone comes is (occasionally) allowing Shockwave to be an actual robot. I would love to see a story where the only reason they've been fighting this long is because they are computers. Once a level of humanity is introduced, they actually stop fighting (only to have the inevitability of back-sliding into fighting again because of that same humanity.)

@  EShadowP : (23 October 2018 - 11:00 AM)

I entirely understand the necessity of some level of anthropomorphism. However, essentially turning them all into really tall metallic humans is not only entirely without purpose, it's boring as heck.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 10:54 AM)

But machine life has to be anthropomorphized, otherwise we don't see the life, just the machine.

@  EShadowP : (23 October 2018 - 10:04 AM)

Maybe we just need writers with better imaginations. Perhaps over-humanizing the Transformers is the longest running problem with every TF fiction ever. Just perhaps.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 09:33 AM)

Yeah, but they are machines. Couldn't they just adjust their own memories for the lifespan? Do we even know how they store memories in the first place?

@  Otaku : (23 October 2018 - 09:12 AM)

Now, I'm not saying that Cybertronians ought to have human life-spans, just that "millions of years" is too long.  Though I suppose it makes the "Oh, I suddenly remembered [plot point]!" moments credible because where do you store all the memories in an easily accessed form?  If you do remember even most things clearly... might that not be maddening?

@  Otaku : (23 October 2018 - 09:09 AM)

The "millions of years old" thing is probably the most alien aspect of Cybertronians.  It pushes my suspension of disbelief for anything remotely human to live that long and still be sane, or maybe even functional.  I think of how aging has affected my own view and sure, some of it is biological maturation, but a lot of it is experience.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 07:11 AM)

But they don't really have a childhood either. They go online and all maturation is literally job experience.

@  Shrug : (23 October 2018 - 06:47 AM)

Well, they're practically immortal. That kind of lifespan doesn't exactly push growing up.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 October 2018 - 04:00 AM)

They can't handle physical scale, did you think temporal scale would fare any better?

@  Pennpenn : (23 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

Maybe it's that they're functionally intelligent, but don't ever really mature much psychologically. That and presumably the original writers gave as much of a shit about deep time as they did about space geometry.

@  Whirl Maximus : (23 October 2018 - 02:03 AM)

I'm mixed about the millions of years thing, it's somewhat at odds when transformers are humanized as they often are.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 October 2018 - 11:59 PM)

Are any of the Transformers terribly bright, really? This is a spacefaring civilization that's millions of years old that seem to be fighting a perpetual war for no particular reason. Transformers are stupider than humans

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2018 - 08:31 PM)

Depends on the machine. Are you recruiting them, or MAKING them?

@  Cybersnark : (22 October 2018 - 08:30 PM)

... And not terribly bright.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2018 - 07:51 PM)

Makes sense for robot soldiers: you would want something fast, low profile, but lots of power.

@  Waspinator : (22 October 2018 - 06:31 PM)

If we go by the Prime cartoon, sports cars apparently ARE the expendable troop of choice.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 October 2018 - 04:29 PM)

Just fold 'em into a box and slap some wheels on it, they'll figure it out.

@  Pennpenn : (22 October 2018 - 01:57 AM)

Given that by the time we're up to in the story Functionalism had been dead for millions of years and many of the people around were made during and for the war, it's probably more likely that "sports car shaped thing" was an easy to make alt mode for expendable troops.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 09:52 PM)

maybe there's underground demolition derbies too

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 09:25 PM)

Every single sports car was one of those two jobs? Considering how many there seem to be....

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 07:34 PM)

Athletic Entertainment

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 October 2018 - 03:32 PM)

It's mentioned in one issue that Bumblebee was a courier. The only other fast cars I can remember seeing in Functionist times were Blur and a couple of Stunticons, as racers.

@  SG Roadbuster : (21 October 2018 - 12:14 PM)

i figured the sports cars were either racers or couriers.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 12:13 PM)

Upper Class. They're clearly not made for manual labor.

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 12:09 PM)

Functionism only really makes sense for certain alternate modes like mining or construction equipment; where do things like sports cars fit in?

@  Xellos : (21 October 2018 - 11:51 AM)

At least in the movies they can switch to a (similar) alt mode at will, it seems. Especially if they want to sell more toys per movie.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2018 - 10:44 AM)

They are a race of adaptive machines. Maybe they were expected to change themselves to fit the role?

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 10:06 AM)

IDW-verse discrimination still made more sense than the backstory in TF: Exodus, where everyone's caste was assigned seemingly at random with no regard for their aptitudes (altmode or otherwise)

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:55 AM)

Lost Light is good too, so far.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:54 AM)

I'm not terribly into Transformers in general, but I did mostly enjoy the More Than Meets The Eye series.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:11 AM)

Which has been in the state constitution since 1946, but was never actually executed according to documents, and is currently not in effect because the German federal constitution, which takes priority over state constitution, has banned the death penalty back in 1949.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:09 AM)

Huh. So next weekend, when the German state of Hesse will have its state election, there will also be a ballot about changing the state constitution... and one of the proposed changes will be abolishing the death penalty.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

I really need to read those comics

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:28 AM)

Up to and including the fact that certain alternate modes could end up being classified as "surplus to requirements" and systematically murdered.

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:26 AM)

And in IDW comics where it is/was literally a form of apartheid where your alternate mode pretty much dictated how you were treated by society, what jobs you could pursue, pretty much everything.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 02:24 AM)

We do get hints of that from time to time in Transformers, with stuff like some jets acting smug towards cars and whatnot.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 October 2018 - 08:10 PM)

"No shotgun of Mine is going to marry a rocket launcher" sounds like something that Targetmasters (or WFC Siege Micromasters) might say...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 08:06 PM)

The characters are actually kinda nice. Sure a bunch of them are from New Jersey, but you get a few aliens too.. But if you do that, you might want to go digital delux verisons.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:38 PM)

My only issue is that the aside from Fox, the looks of the characters are kinda bland. If anything, I'll at least get it on Black Friday, as they almost always have deals on the toys to life stuff.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 06:07 PM)

Well I can tell you, if you are going physical version because you want the toys. The Switch version has the best Ship mount as you just slide the joycons into it. The PS4 ship mount is wired. The game itself is very good in my opionion. In some ways it starts to turn into an RTS without being an RTS. You've got to start focus on keeping your planets from being taken back over. It has a LOT to do. It does have some repitive missions, because well, trying to let you level up all pilots and ships and such. The switch version -ALSO- has starfox only missions and the characters are incorporated into the story.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:03 PM)

How is Starlink anyways? Been thinking of getting the Switch version for StarFox, which is quite unusal for me, as I almost always pick the PS4 versions (favorite controller and I already have so many Trophys on it).

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:42 PM)

No shotgun of mine is going to marry a rocket launcher!

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 October 2018 - 05:22 PM)

Should they be allowed to marry outside of their own caliber?

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:18 PM)

I'm conflicted on the subject of marriage rights for shotguns.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:24 PM)

You say, "Damn it, what do you think this is, a shotgun wedding?"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:23 PM)

What do you do if someone wants to bring their concealed-carry to your American wedding?


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#1 Powered Convoy

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 07:08 AM

Some information about what will be on display:  http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/news/toyshow2018_tf.html

 

Tweets regarding the setup - one showing the concept and the other showing the actual.

 

 

 

Note Masterpiece BW Megatron and Dinobot on display.  They're also showing the BumbleBee trailer.

 

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Edited by Powered Convoy, 27 August 2018 - 07:16 AM.



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Posted 06 June 2018 - 07:49 AM

Is there not an exclusive this year?

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 07:53 AM

Not that we know of.

 

Theories were that the Golden Lagoon Optimus was going to be an exclusive, but that might not be true and it might just be on display / announced there.




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Posted 06 June 2018 - 08:20 AM

Thats probably the lineart for the new MP convoy. Surprised the shinvents are colored.

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 11:54 AM

Isn't that lineart from like 2000 or something?



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Posted 06 June 2018 - 11:58 AM

That wall looks to be covered in miscellaneous cartoon-related art with what looks like a package art mural for the background so I think the big Optimus might be old art as well.

Edited by NotVeryKnightly, 06 June 2018 - 11:59 AM.


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 12:02 PM

That's the old MP-1 Convoy booklet art, which was recolored for MP-2 Ultra Magnus here:

 

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No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 08:41 AM

Dengeki Hobby photos of Diaclone and Transformers:  http://hobby.dengeki.com/event/581561/




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Posted 08 June 2018 - 07:20 AM

 

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 07:28 AM

 

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 07:32 AM

Suddenly, hopes of a simpler transformation and parts count are met with their fate. Dread of the potential price tag spills through and lies heavy, dense on the once vibrant enthusiasm.



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Posted 08 June 2018 - 08:03 AM

Man that wadded up kibble on Megs' back is giving me MP-05 flashbacks 

Isn't that lineart from like 2000 or something?

Huh, it is. Looks nothing like MP=01 though.


Edited by unluckiness, 08 June 2018 - 08:04 AM.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 09:19 AM

That sure is a mess of kibble on his back, alright.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 11:14 AM

That's the old MP-1 Convoy booklet art, which was recolored for MP-2 Ultra Magnus here:

 

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It's actually the datafile art from the old "Book Style" G1 re-releases.

 

The MP-01 card art was modified from that, changing a few details to resemble that toy a bit more.

 

The flat-fronted waist armour is the biggest giveway, but there's lots of other details changed as well.


Edited by mx-01 archon, 08 June 2018 - 11:15 AM.


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 10:28 PM

Gamerlingual got confirmation that MP-43 is still BW Megatron and the label at the show is wrong. https://www.pscp.tv/...rlingual/follow


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 10:52 PM

It's hard to be too mad at MP Beast Megs' back kibble.  It's the same amount of kibble the original toy had, honestly, but just folded up on itself a bunch.  The Ultra had, like, the entire tyrannosaur torso on his back and the Masterpiece doesn't look like it works any different.  It just tries to minimize itself to preserve the cartoon model's silhouette, is all.


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Posted 09 June 2018 - 01:50 AM

Megs is nice and all but where's Battle Buffalo's components? They've been teasing us long enough. (Delta Maneuver is magnificent, however, so this will do for now.)


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In need of Movie Arcee's missile, PM me if you have a spare.

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 02:30 AM

http://takaratomymal...g4904810614616/

 

Golden Lagoon Perceptor/Beachcomber/Seaspray three-pack?

With also images of GL (Combiner Wars) Starscream and MP10 Optimus Prime?

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 02:34 AM

https://twitter.com/...351135358513152

 

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I need that Golden CW Starscream so I can get one limb closer to ALL STARSCREAM COMBINER.



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Posted 09 June 2018 - 03:45 AM

Unfortunate PVC.





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