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@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p


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#681 wonko the sane?

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Posted 05 June 2020 - 08:33 PM

Christ, I can still hear that snort...


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Posted 05 June 2020 - 08:40 PM

 

That packaging, along with Catra's general look makes it seem like they completely gave up on having villains in the original toyline

 

Yeah, the 80s had this weird trend of downplaying the villainy in girls toy lines (or just not making any villain toys).  Mattel actually used the "jealous beauty" tagline twice, once for Catra, once for Duchess RavenWaves from the Lady LovelyLocks line.  (Yeah, her jealousy was way more important than her desire to Starscream it up and overthrow the title character.)

 

Meanwhile, the Misfits' packaging described them as "mischievous" even though they would do things like leave Jem tied up in a volcano and kidnap an orphan in a trunk.

 

I did a little research because your post made me wonder: was there an 80s Hordak toy?  What a fool I was, of course there wasn't.  He was 1) a guy and 2) ugly.  Sorry, Hordak, you are no Jealous Beauty.  ;)

 

Here's the scant list of She Ra villain toys (from the 80s):

 

Catra

Clawdeen

Storm (Catra's horse)

Entrapta

 

Aaaand that's it.  You'd think Double Trouble would be with the Horde but NOPE, another good guy.

 

Edit:  Okay, I looked up 80s Entrapta's backcard bio, and it's great.

 

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Her tagline is "Tricky golden beauty" because that's more important than HER HAIR, I guess.  Bless all the 80s toys.

 

 

I've done some checking around.  All the male characters from the Horde were shoved into the MOTU line.  Mattel seemed to be less interested in promoting the She-ra line than in using it as a way to keep propping up He-man.


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Posted 05 June 2020 - 10:48 PM

The best dumb thing about 80s She-Ra was in a world where magic and technology were so commonplace you couldn't throw a rock without hitting some enchanted techno-wizard.

 

And Netossa tossed nets.  Regular old plain ordinary nets.



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Posted 06 June 2020 - 06:38 AM

Seriously? There were only two female villainess toys?! There was never an original Scorpia toy? Or Shadow Weaver?

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 07:06 AM

Seriously? There were only two female villainess toys?! There was never an original Scorpia toy? Or Shadow Weaver?


Nope.

I also think that He-Man's villains were thrown in She-ra to get boys to watch it. I know the crossover from the series got me interested and watching. Since they stopped producing He-Man cartoons once She-ra started.

I don't know if there were plans to do Scorpia and Shadow Weaver. Filmation also liked to add their own characters.

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 08:47 AM

 

Seriously? There were only two female villainess toys?! There was never an original Scorpia toy? Or Shadow Weaver?


Nope.

I also think that He-Man's villains were thrown in She-ra to get boys to watch it. I know the crossover from the series got me interested and watching. Since they stopped producing He-Man cartoons once She-ra started.

I don't know if there were plans to do Scorpia and Shadow Weaver. Filmation also liked to add their own characters.

 

 

They stopped producing them as they had done two rounds of 65 in two years.  Which is part of why the trend of 65 episode seasons that He-man started was a bad one.  Because you've got a toyline still on the shelves, but you're not gonna get funding to make more cartoons to promote it.  


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Posted 07 June 2020 - 05:06 AM

Is it wrong that I prefer 'wayward defective clone who develops his own personality attempting to return to his creator' over previous reboot shows 'end times dark god' take on Hordak?

 

Similarly, I enjoyed how the season didn't just turn all the fights with the brainwashed into 'I know you're in there, come back to us!' fights. Like the staff knew what a cliche it was and wanted to avoid that, even having the infected like it as the conditioning took further hold.



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Posted 08 June 2020 - 11:22 PM

nope that's a perfectly good opinion and i know so because I also am of that opinion 



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Posted 22 June 2020 - 08:45 AM

We are slowly watching this show again with the girls. We started back with season 2 and now we are halfway through season 5.

 

I am shipping Entrapta and Hordak so hard that UPS gave me a tracking number.


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Posted 22 June 2020 - 02:11 PM

We are slowly watching this show again with the girls. We started back with season 2 and now we are halfway through season 5.
 
I am shipping Entrapta and Hordak so hard that UPS gave me a tracking number.


Haha! Nice way of describing that, hehe.

I hated it at first, because I was absolutely fine with Entrapta being herself. She don't need no romance subplot to make her interesting. She's an independent inventor! But, no, I ended up shipping it hard anyway, haha!

Entrapta and Scorpia totally made the show for me.

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Posted 27 June 2020 - 01:59 PM

Woot! That was a great show. We finished up season 5 last night, and I am kind of disappointed that they never went out and find Eternia. Kind of makes me think that was where they were going when they said that they were going to go on one last road trip. However with this being the last season, we won't get to see that. 

  

 

My thoughts on the finale. 

 

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Posted 27 June 2020 - 03:54 PM

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