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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (25 January 2020 - 11:17 PM)

Twitter's revamp is so dumb. Nowadays, even when I am logged out of my account, right-clicking an image on Google Chrome won't let me access a URL to easily get the image's full size. That functionality was so useful!

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 January 2020 - 10:01 PM)

But when was the last time you saw a major retailer (since TRU) actually allot shelf space for a Transformers Titan? Or the Vintage Collection Poe X-Wing? There's clearly some sort of disparity between "girls" and "boys" toys that give companies justification to create $100+ items in the girls segment in FAR greater frequency than in boys.

@  fourteenwings : (25 January 2020 - 12:56 AM)

"how expensive they were" Tell that to L.O.L. O.M.G. and the $129 Amazing Surprise (I mean I guess when it comes to the toy aisle Power Rangers isn't a juggernaut like L.O.L.)

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:18 PM)

I think the big reason we didn't see the actual combining Zords at retail was because of how expensive they were. It would cost $100 to get enough of them to make a Megazord, $160+ if you want the Ultrazord. Or parents could just get the dang Ultrazord for $40 even if it didn't combine.

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

Because they are "kids toys" not "collector toys"

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 03:27 PM)

1) I don't have Target. 2) can't go into my walmart. I'm surprised Hasbro won't sell the toys on Pulse

@  Bass X0 : (24 January 2020 - 02:43 PM)

I dreamt my phone was ringing and woke up to answer it.

@  Sabrblade : (24 January 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Lightning Collection figures, the smaller normal-sized Beast Morphers Ranger/enemy/Beast-Bot figures, the role-play morpher and weapon toys, and the simplistic non-combining megazord toys have all been very easy to find at various Targets and Walmarts. It's only been the actual combining Beast Morphers zord toys (which are bizarrely being sold individually this time) that have been hard to find in stores.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Thought I do question Hasbro's almost reluctance to have the toys available anywhere.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 01:44 PM)

i've been trying to sell mine for weeks...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:37 PM)

I hadn't opened mine yet, but from what I've seen, the general agreement is that the Beast Morpher zords are much better than Bandais.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

I'm guessing if they're going to do anything on the level of Legacy Zords, it's being discussed behind NDAs at Toy Fair

@  Rodimus Supreme : (24 January 2020 - 10:38 AM)

Lightning Collection is good, and they're taking their sweet time on making Zords that are better than Bandai's Zords.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 10:34 AM)

So, what's the general PR fandom consensus of the Hasbro run of PR so far? I pretty much stepped out of the community after I got the Bandai Legacy zords I wanted.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 08:46 AM)

that would require someone to BUY Hasbro PR toys...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 07:17 AM)

Well hopefully see some cool PR stuff. Wish BBTS sold Hasbro PR toys.

@  fourteenwings : (24 January 2020 - 07:01 AM)

February 22nd through 25th, I feel like it was earlier last year...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 06:32 AM)

When is NY TF?

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:43 PM)

I don't know about Hasbro's general policy but I know everybody was on lockdown for Frozen II, which included both LEGO and Hasbro. Plus, I'm guessing everybody is holding off PR for NY Toy Fair? Overall, it's best to remember that Toy Fairs are for buyers, not fans.

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:41 PM)

LEGO has been doing this for ages, including sending cease and desists when outlets get leaked images.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:42 PM)

And then they ended up selling off the brand, so I guess I wasn't the only one.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:41 PM)

Last time a toy brand I followed tightened down on toy fair and all the invited guests posted glowing reviews of what they saw, I ended up being disappointed as heck.

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:34 PM)

JediNews UK basically said they got a walkthrough of Lego's showcase...but were legally bound to NOT talk about anything, much less take pics.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:24 PM)

I wondered why I had seen basically nothing newsworthy from the event

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:14 PM)

Word is that Hasbro and Lego have their UK Toy Fair stuff on MAJOR lockdown. Full NDAs and everything.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 09:28 PM)

Seeing people say the $0.99 + $20 shipping item is cheaper than the $19.99 + free shipping item and getting tons of likes for it... I just don't know anymore.

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

if you havent already, y'all check your walmarts clearance aisle. i found siege six shot for $5. course, it could just be my walmart, but never hurts to look

@  Vexwing : (23 January 2020 - 07:20 PM)

Candlejack is going to need more ro

@  Patch : (23 January 2020 - 06:30 PM)

I thought you had to type out Candlejack's full name bef

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 02:46 PM)

I typed in the wrong tab.

@  Paladin : (23 January 2020 - 02:32 PM)

must've been the works of Candleja

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 02:06 PM)

looks like maximus wiped himself out mid-sentence

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 08:42 AM)

Disregard this.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2020 - 06:58 PM)

Bold of you all to assume we won't wipe ourselves out in 50 years.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2020 - 04:27 PM)

There will be no UBI, people will just live in a ditch while they celebrate owning the libs.

@  Rycochet : (22 January 2020 - 03:24 PM)

In 50 years, retail will be dead because all stores are staffless fully automated operations controlled by Amazon. The UBI will be less than a fifth of what it actually costs to live after two decades of cuts and.a steadfast refusal to match inflation.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 January 2020 - 02:55 PM)

In fifty years retail will be a thing of the past through robots, printers and Universal Basic Income.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (21 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

Big retailers just don't want money anymore, so let's not give them any,

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:12 PM)

This place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned.

@  Maximus Ambus : (20 January 2020 - 03:38 PM)

I took one step beyond the outer limits to the twilight zone.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 10:19 AM)

All retail is basically the same.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2020 - 10:00 AM)

Walmart just needs to go bankrupt already.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:19 AM)

They didn't put the 35th anniversary stuff back out until after new year. I'm no retail expert, but I feel like having stock on the shelf is better than the back. Especially toys at christmas time.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Yeah, my local walmart took away the 35th anniversary endcap weeks before Christmas and left the Transformer section empty well past Christmas.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Mine only has the 35th Anniversary Voyagers. A whole lot of them.

@  Telly : (19 January 2020 - 11:35 PM)

just be happy your walmart even stocks voyagers. mine doesnt

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 January 2020 - 08:53 PM)

Figures that Walmart finally restocks Studio Voyagers...with Wave ONE

@  ThunderWear : (19 January 2020 - 09:27 AM)

I snagged Rainmakers for half off.  They make me want jolly ranchers.

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 04:21 PM)

I was using my account on another comptuer, and oddly it seemed to default to $US rather than converting it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 January 2020 - 02:02 PM)

You should be able to set eBay to display in your local currency, although personally I like to know the actual currency the item is listed in so I know if I need to account for forex fees or not


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:13 AM

I'm guessing a new Hordak would be gray. Everything makes him gray rather than blue.

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 09:09 AM

Yeah, as far as I know, Hordak has only ever been blue at all in the Filmation show. Anything else including the original toy was always gray. Why they made him blue, I will never know for sure - Maybe so he would stand out from the dark Fright Zone backgrounds? I think the cyborg angle is mostly a Filmation idea, as well.


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 12:44 PM

At a glance, because the She-Ra toyline was a dollction figure line of ladies with fairy wings and rooted hair and pegacorn mounts.


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Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
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Posted 20 May 2018 - 01:34 PM

Did any of the Villains even feature in the She-Ra toy line? I could see a select few like Shadow Weaver or Catra, but even then from what I remember it was pretty much all the girl heroes plus Bow


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 01:45 PM

He-Man.org's list seems to confirm that, that's what I "glanced" at before my last post. It also appears that Catra got a rooted-hair PoP doll while Shadow Weaver got a MotU action figure.


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Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 02:23 PM

I figured Shadow Weaver would be pushing She-Ra's own line, but Catra was pretty much just a normal looking human character until wearing her mask. It's kind of sad that they had to separate the bad guys into the MOTU line just because of the "monsters wouldn't sell to girls" mentality.


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 02:41 PM

I dunno, as with most things gender-role-related, I'm a little ambivalent from the position of having my cake and eating it. It's sad that boys couldn't have toys with rooted hair and girls couldn't have toys with firing missiles. Here in the present, I don't really like either of those gimmicks, but I do like both dolls and action figures, and a part of me has to respect how the She-Ra line repackaged the relatively novel form of 80s action figures back into a girls' toy, and how that shakes out in the packaging, sculpt aesthetic, etc.


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 03:51 PM

He-Man.org's list seems to confirm that, that's what I "glanced" at before my last post. It also appears that Catra got a rooted-hair PoP doll while Shadow Weaver got a MotU action figure.

 

Wait, wait, wait. I had a She-Ra figure to along with He-Man, Skeletor, Beastman, etc... but you're telling me there was a Bubble Power She-Ra I missed out on?

 

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 04:21 PM

Don't remember what DC did with him, but Google tells me it's this.

 

That picture of Hordac kind of makes him look a lot like Mummra from Thundercats after he transformed, its the build of the body that makes him look similar on top of what he wearing, clothes wise.


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 06:13 PM

The only villains in the original She-ra line were Catra and Double Trouble. The other Horde figures were part of MotU. Shadow Weaver didn't have a figure originally and neither did Scorpa.

I figure that the other Horde figures were put in She-ra as production of She-ra ended production of He-Man. So they had to put the figures that were still coming out for MotU somewhere. Where better than the cartoon linked to it and with essentially no villain figures of its own.

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Posted 21 May 2018 - 10:05 AM

The only villains in the original She-ra line were Catra and Double Trouble. The other Horde figures were part of MotU. Shadow Weaver didn't have a figure originally and neither did Scorpa.

I figure that the other Horde figures were put in She-ra as production of She-ra ended production of He-Man. So they had to put the figures that were still coming out for MotU somewhere. Where better than the cartoon linked to it and with essentially no villain figures of its own.

 

You forgot Entrapta, she was also from the original line.  She did show up in a couple of episodes too.  Apparently she was pretty high ranked in the Horde, she was able to stand by Hordak next to his throne and not get looked down on by him like the other minions.

 

And yeah you are correct about why Horde villains showed up in She-Ra.  It is the same reason some of the Snake Men showed up as Horde members in She-Ra.  Mattel still wanted to advertise them.  Rattlor pretty much looked the same, but Tung Lashor looked wildly different then his final figure.



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Posted 21 May 2018 - 10:48 AM

Yeah, as far as I recall, the initial concept for She-Ra had Catra as the main villain. Then, Mattel had them shuffle the Horde in there and Filmation made a few additions of their own. It's only a few years ago that some of the rights quagmire got cleaned up a bit and Mattel was able to start using some of the Filmation characters again. Or, as far as some toys are concerned, for the first time.


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Posted 21 May 2018 - 12:50 PM

 

The only villains in the original She-ra line were Catra and Double Trouble. The other Horde figures were part of MotU. Shadow Weaver didn't have a figure originally and neither did Scorpa.

I figure that the other Horde figures were put in She-ra as production of She-ra ended production of He-Man. So they had to put the figures that were still coming out for MotU somewhere. Where better than the cartoon linked to it and with essentially no villain figures of its own.

 

You forgot Entrapta, she was also from the original line.  She did show up in a couple of episodes too.  Apparently she was pretty high ranked in the Horde, she was able to stand by Hordak next to his throne and not get looked down on by him like the other minions.

 

And yeah you are correct about why Horde villains showed up in She-Ra.  It is the same reason some of the Snake Men showed up as Horde members in She-Ra.  Mattel still wanted to advertise them.  Rattlor pretty much looked the same, but Tung Lashor looked wildly different then his final figure.

 

 

Ah, forgot about her.  But the long and short of it was, anything that was a female character from She-Ra was part of the She-Ra line.  Bow was the only male character part of the Princess of Power line, and all other male characters that had toys (which were just the villains) were part of MotU.


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Posted 21 May 2018 - 12:59 PM

I don't expect them to retain it, but I always enjoyed the music to She-Ra much more than the music to He-Man....



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Posted 21 May 2018 - 05:48 PM

Adora's origins as a Horde captain certainly make for more a more interesting and complex foundation than He-Man had. DC did some good stuff with Despara too. I hope that element is retained for the new show. 


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Posted 22 May 2018 - 09:03 AM

I seem to recall the Horde figures coming out in MotU (speaking of which, this would have gone great in that thread; did we need a separate one?) before Princess of Power was released.

What I'd heard was that it was at Filmation's request that the Horde was integrated into the She-Ra cartoon.

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 10:32 AM

Who would have been her villains if there were no Horde? Catra would have been the the Skeletor equivalent, like powerful general and magician?

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 10:50 AM

G1 MLP had the same problem She-Ra would have had, if you can call it a problem - the cartoon needed villains and the toy line didn't, so the cartoon just had a lot of wacky villains not based on anything particularly to do with the toys.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 01:57 PM

Yeah, as far as I know, Hordak has only ever been blue at all in the Filmation show. Anything else including the original toy was always gray. Why they made him blue, I will never know for sure - Maybe so he would stand out from the dark Fright Zone backgrounds? I think the cyborg angle is mostly a Filmation idea, as well.

He was also blue in the newspaper strip... which was also made by Filmation, but still. :p

 


The only villains in the original She-ra line were Catra and Double Trouble. The other Horde figures were part of MotU. Shadow Weaver didn't have a figure originally and neither did Scorpa.
 
I figure that the other Horde figures were put in She-ra as production of She-ra ended production of He-Man. So they had to put the figures that were still coming out for MotU somewhere. Where better than the cartoon linked to it and with essentially no villain figures of its own.
The Horde was actually developed for She-Ra.
 

And yeah you are correct about why Horde villains showed up in She-Ra.  It is the same reason some of the Snake Men showed up as Horde members in She-Ra.  Mattel still wanted to advertise them.  Rattlor pretty much looked the same, but Tung Lashor looked wildly different then his final figure.
 
Tung was based on a toy concept art:
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On a side note, Rattlor was planned to appear on He-Man initially. Had that come to pass, he too would've been based on a toy concept art:
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Model sheet by Bruce Timm:
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Yeah, as far as I recall, the initial concept for She-Ra had Catra as the main villain. Then, Mattel had them shuffle the Horde in there and Filmation made a few additions of their own.
Nope.
 

The picture above makes me really hope they do something cool to Hordak's design. That high bone collar is just kinda dumb.
 
-ZacWilliam, he's always felt weirdly muddy as a design to me. Never liked him much. Nosferatu face, weird robot suggestions, weird collar, shape changing powers. I'm sure he could be great but It could use some reinvention to really gel I think.
 
If all of that gets changed, then he may as well be a completely brand new character.


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Posted 22 May 2018 - 09:20 PM

I really think they could pick one or two of the themes they're hinting at and build that out properly, and that that would still be meaningfully a version of the character.


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Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 




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