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@  fourteenwings : (15 October 2018 - 12:27 AM)

I'm starting to feel like the box is being used in lieu of actual serious threads (not to be terrible but seeing this as soon as you get on the forums is depressing).

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 October 2018 - 10:35 PM)

It's shameful that randos in richer countries pretend like it's not happening.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 October 2018 - 10:35 PM)

Small island countries are already sinking below sea level and being consumed by the ocean.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 10:28 PM)

Which is why poorer countries are some of the ones most worried at this point, I imagine. Wealthy countries like the US, Canada, etc won't feel the effects nearly as soon

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2018 - 10:05 PM)

Realistically: there doesn't have to be truly catastrophic impacts to screw us all over. Frequent enough storms will disrupt our infrastructure, which will hobble our ability to rebuild quickly and cause pretty big backslides in quality of life. I don't mean "oh no, I can't charge my iphone", more like "dysentery is as common as the flu because the resources just aren't there to clean the water anymore".

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 10:03 PM)

If no, then procrastinate some more

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 10:03 PM)

Well, the most important question: is it going to stop me getting some drive thru at McDonald's?

@  Noideaforaname : (14 October 2018 - 09:21 PM)

It's kinda nuts seeing insurance ads tell everyone multiple 500-year storms a year is the new normal, but the general attitude over is still at best *shrug*.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 October 2018 - 08:18 PM)

Sad thing is... Boomers are still leaving their vile taint on a lot of the younger generation.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 08:08 PM)

Certainly the boomers won't live to see it, and they're the worst generation for not giving a shit

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 08:08 PM)

We're seeing some of it, yeah, but very likely all the truly catastrophic impacts will hit once most of us are dead

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2018 - 07:46 PM)

Stupid thing is: We ARE seeing results in our lifetime, but it's still slow enough that we, as a culture, are willing to ignore it despite what the scientists are saying.

@  MEDdMI : (14 October 2018 - 07:41 PM)

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@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 07:30 PM)

As long as nothing interrupts their morning latte and consumer-driven lifestyles, they're good

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 07:26 PM)

Because humans are notoriously bad at caring about things they don't see happening within their lifetimes

@  Shrug : (14 October 2018 - 06:09 PM)

And no one else in my class cared. None of my teachers cared. My parents didn't care.

@  Shrug : (14 October 2018 - 06:08 PM)

One of my more frustrating memories regarding Climate Change is from when I was in 2nd grade in 1996. My poor redneck middle-of-nowhere school had a decade old science textbook written so a 2nd grader could read it and it had enough about the impending Global Warming that I was worried as a 6 year old.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2018 - 04:45 PM)

Plus a MUCH higher chance of lake effect snow: since milder means the great lakes will take that much longer to freeze over.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2018 - 04:07 PM)

Eh, really does depend on what you look for in winter. "Milder" also usually means "wetter", so... you know, MORE snow to deal with.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 02:01 PM)

It was unusually warm here as well, until 2 or 3 days ago. The temperature's a little more seasonal, now. They are predicting a milder winter than usual this year, which for Canada isn't such bad news

@  Nevermore : (14 October 2018 - 01:51 PM)

"Global warming is a myth" my ass. It's the middle of October, and summer is back in full swing. What the hell.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (14 October 2018 - 08:30 AM)

I can't remember the last time I used a gif avatar here

@  Waspinator : (14 October 2018 - 02:52 AM)

did something change about how avatars work here? I had a GIF as one and I can't get a new one to work

@  PlutoniumBoss : (14 October 2018 - 01:14 AM)

My vice is plastic. Once when I was cashiering at a grocery store I sold a lady three cartons of cigarettes and it came to over 80 bucks. I had just bought Brave Max and thought at least I wasn't going to go out and burn the thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 October 2018 - 06:21 PM)

Well, their going to TRY to make money off it. I suspect that price point and convenience will continue to drive the black market over the legal stuff.

@  Pennpenn : (13 October 2018 - 05:21 PM)

I'd say the "make money off it" makes them less likely to even try. And things like Prohibition gives them an excuse as though club-fistedly banning something is the only way to deal with a problem since they're willingly incapable of nuance or patience.

@  TM2-Megatron : (13 October 2018 - 05:05 PM)

My only vice is blu-rays; lots and lots of them

@  TM2-Megatron : (13 October 2018 - 05:05 PM)

None of it will be my money; personally I've only tried pot once (and that was at a family party, and the brownies were made by my aunt, lol), and though it was enjoyable enough, I've never been inclined to try it again

@  TM2-Megatron : (13 October 2018 - 05:03 PM)

I'm sure they'll make a ton of money on it, and I'm equally sure nobody will ever be able to figure out where it went once it evaporates

@  wonko the sane? : (13 October 2018 - 05:01 PM)

Not aimed at you megs, at pennpenn.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 October 2018 - 05:01 PM)

Why? Legalization is the just the government admitting they CAN'T deal with something, and since they can't ban it: would rather make money off it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (13 October 2018 - 05:00 PM)

On the war on drugs thing, I drove down to Niagara Falls/Buffalo today to pick up some packages and do some shopping, and as I was on the highway getting close to Whirlpool Bridge, there's a new big electronic construction sign in the middle of the road that says "No cannabis at the US border", I assume due to the coming legalization on Friday

@  Pennpenn : (13 October 2018 - 04:57 PM)

i get that just up and banning it isn't going to work, also see the "War on Drugs" for another course on that path. But is something that should be gotten rid of. It's something that governments should treat as the health issue it is, rather than a big ol' money pot.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 October 2018 - 01:20 PM)

So, I have to eat my words. The Assassin’s Creed Odyssey streaming version works very well.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 October 2018 - 11:44 AM)

There's also the fact that we know outright prohibition doesn't work. It was tried with alcohol and that was a disaster, and it's the reason marijuana is becoming legal in more places.

@  Cybersnark : (13 October 2018 - 09:41 AM)

Toronto is just as bad, thanks to everyone assuming that vaping ("it's healthy") and marijuana ("it's legal") don't count as smoking.

@  Shrug : (13 October 2018 - 09:32 AM)

Last time I saw data about it, all but two states in the US have decreased smoking consistently for several decades. Except two that both still smoke like it's the 1970s and I happen to live in one of them.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 October 2018 - 08:43 AM)

On the whole; more people are quitting smoking than taking it up. It's a slow process of attrition, but it will stop eventually. Unless you live in quebec: they still smoke like it's a cure for cancer.

@  TM2-Megatron : (13 October 2018 - 03:40 AM)

The only reason cigarettes are "permissible" is because of their historical precedence, but personally that's not good enough for me

@  TM2-Megatron : (13 October 2018 - 03:39 AM)

There's the personal choice angle, but honestly, it's like Pennpenn mentioned before. If anyone tried to market the same product today, it would never be allowed. Same reason why you're not allowed to sell Bleach as a drink.

@  Waspinator : (13 October 2018 - 02:28 AM)

It doesn't help that the problems caused by smoking are mostly slow acting and therefore easy to ignore.

@  Pennpenn : (13 October 2018 - 01:58 AM)

I'd say the second hand smoke thing simplifies it immensly- it's affecting others, therefore it is no longer an issue of personal choice. Also "if they know what they're doing" is rather undermined given the addiction can effectively override that and in many cases, they didn't know what they were doing when they got addicted.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2018 - 01:32 AM)

"Well maybe if you chose to eat better diets, you wouldn't have that problem to begin with".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2018 - 01:32 AM)

"You could annihilate cancer in our countries!"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2018 - 01:31 AM)

Relatedly, I am reminded of some panel from Black Panther I once saw about why Wakanda doesn't immediately maximize the effect of its resources on other countries.

@  Waspinator : (13 October 2018 - 01:24 AM)

Cigarettes are one of those thing I have mixed feelings on. I hate them personally, but I tend to lean towards the "people should be able to stick whatever into their own bodies if they know what they're doing" camp. The secondhand smoke problem complicates that a lot, though, since it creates a burden on people whose only choice was to happen to be near smokers

@  Pennpenn : (12 October 2018 - 10:16 PM)

Oh I get that banning them overnight wouldn't work, it'd take time and effort and money, but honestly as societies it's one of those things we should be moving away from (and in many cases are). It just could be done quicker if there was more political will and if governments didn't make so much money off the taxes.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 October 2018 - 10:13 PM)

Personally I think they should be phased out, maybe with the legal age for them gradually raised over 15 or 20 years. That would give people time to quit/die,and the industry time to transition to something else.

@  Pennpenn : (12 October 2018 - 09:48 PM)

I mean, it's pretty obvious that if they'd been invented later they'd be hella banned, but since they make govenments a lot of taxes the death sticks can still be peddled.

@  Pennpenn : (12 October 2018 - 09:40 PM)

I really hate cigarette stench. It's so disgusting and gives me headaches like someone is stcking a power drill into my head.


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 05:45 AM

So there was another EW reveal today. This franchise has always been a couple of removes away for me, but it's Dreamworks doing another Netflix show, so it's hard for that too go too terribly wrong, right?

 

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 05:51 AM

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 05:57 AM

Lot of awesome people in the cast. I hope they can manage something cool that can pull itself free of the shadow of He-Man.

But also has lots of He-Man? NO

At any rate... bring it on. They can save He-Man for the inevitable "MOTU: Go Roar".

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 06:06 AM

But also has lots of He-Man? NO


Eh? The cast list doesn't mention anyone playing Adam or Skeletor.

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 06:28 AM

I may have worded that confusingly, I didn't mean to suggest that I thought He-Man would be present; I was saying "I hope they make a show good enough that people don't spend the whole time waiting for He-Man, but also I will be one of those people and I would probably like to see He-Man but I don't want to do this show that disservice". NOTE: THIS POST MAY NOT HAVE EFFECTIVELY CLARIFIED MY POINT

It seems weird for them to resurrect a He-Man spinoff without putting a little He-Man in it, but also from what little we know about this show it seems crazy to think they'd lead with anything heavily Adamy because that would really kind of dilute Adora's whole thing, right? It's hard to imagine that this will be a show that says "here's a chick who bounced out of a boything". However they choose to address Adam - if they ever do - I'm sure they'll execute it well, but I wouldn't want to guess what that would look like at this point. For all we know the pilot will be packed with surprise MOTU junk, though I doubt it!

There will inevitably be people watching who just can't get past Where Is He-Man, and I will struggle to avoid being one of them because I'm old and to me these characters go together by default, but one imagines I'm not necessarily the demo the show is keen to capture. Seems like there's a solid team behind this show and hopefully they'll hit it out of the park and nobody will give a shit about He-Man.

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 06:40 AM

I dunno, if the He-Man franchise proper isnt popular enough to support itself, I dont expect a He-man spinoff to do any better. I guess the netflix distribution could make the difference but Im skeptical of its chances for success.

And maybe they can actually use the swords as swords this time

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 06:50 AM

Yeah, there's at least as much nostalgia out there for She-Ra as for He-Man and they've always seemed like pretty independent products based on the same model to me. This isn't a case like the Venom movie where I think they're necessarily going to lose something by leaving out the parent franchise. I definitely don't think either is more dependent on the other, so I'd think if you can try and fail to reboot MotU, you can try to reboot She-Ra, too.


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 06:55 AM

Ignoring any relevant context or whatever I think the names "She-ra" and "Hordak" sound better than "He-man" and "Skeletor".

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 06:56 AM

The "...and the Princessess of Power" is new. I mean, She-Ra was The Princess of Power. This seems like its going in an interesting direction.

Was the original She-Ra in another world, seperate from Eternia? If so then i can certainly see how they can introduce Adora with little or no He-Man baggage. Possibly.

EDIT: I'd say Skeletor is on a par with Hordak for cool villain name. But , She-Ra is better than He Man.

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:13 AM

I'm looking forward to this.


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:20 AM

Was the original She-Ra in another world, seperate from Eternia? If so then i can certainly see how they can introduce Adora with little or no He-Man baggage. Possibly.

Yeah, it's a whole parallel thing.  Fighting Hordak in place of Skeletor on Etheria in place of Eternia, transforms using her own Sword of Protection instead of the Power Sword, which has to do with Castle Grayskull but also the Crystal Castle. She's introduced as He-Man's long-lost brother and meets him for her introduction, but otherwise it's just this entire rebranded set of MotU things and no interaction with MotU.


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:25 AM

My thoughts to this are, it could be really good or really bad. I never saw much of the original He-man series, even less of She-ra, I saw some of that futurtic spin off of He-man, where he not longer looks like a barbarian but I don't recall it that well, I saw the last He-man series completely and I couldn't understand why it didn't get a third season because it was pretty good, but then I could say the same about the Thundercats series from a few years ago, that was pretty good. Anyway, I think the idea behind this She-ra series is to help balance out the sucess that is Voltron, Voltron is kind of aimmed at boys primary with most of the cast being men, so they clearly want to do something for the girls and not go like a lot of other shows aimmed at girls, something a bit more action packed, but time will tell. who knows, maybe He-man will do what She-ra did when it first came along, spin out of the series.


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:48 AM

I don't super care but at least it means Jordan Fischer is in work for a bit. I kind of do want to be excited, but it feels like this'll fall in that "This is taking itself too seriously"/'This is waaaaaay too goofy" dichotomy that Western Animation is stuck in (I mean, the other reveal was that terrible Thundercats reboot).


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:59 AM

I'm eager for this, I've always prefered She-Ra to He-Man, even watching it recently She-Ra feels like a more mature cartoon then He-Man. She-Ra is part of a group of Rebels, fighting against an evil Empire, It's almost the exact oppisite of He-Man. On Etheria evil's won, Hordak rules all and does everythign he can to stay in power. You got a group that's mostly  fighting with swords and bows and the occasional magic user, vs a group that's got tanks, death rays, and endless robotic soldiers. Even with her super powers, She-Ra and her co-horts are behind the 8-ball, and a lot of plots tend to show that. You get episodes dealing with regular civilians trying to survive this war and weither they should support She-Ra and potentially be killed by the Horde for it, or keep their heads down and try to be loyal citizens in hopes they won't catch a hordesman on a bad day they ruins their lives for no reason. You got an episode about  book burning and how Hordak is trying to erase anything that claims the horde hasn't always been in power. You got an episode where Hordak's super weapon uses prisoners as batteries, draining them of their lives. 

 

For a Filmation series, a series aimed at girls, and just an 80's cartoon in general, this shit gets surprisingly dark at times. Sure good always wins out in the end, and their is still a level of humor about everything, but this has an on-going storyline, not as continous as what you see nowadays, but it was still telling a story where stuff would come back later and still be important. If you got Netflix, the whole  seires is on there last I checked. Seriously try and watch it, its got a lot of good and interestign stuff in it. And I hope, espically since this is Dreamwave and we know from Voltron they can do a damn good job, that this tries to keep some of those themes and ideas around.


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:59 AM

I don't super care but at least it means Jordan Fischer is in work for a bit. I kind of do want to be excited, but it feels like this'll fall in that "This is taking itself too seriously"/'This is waaaaaay too goofy" dichotomy that Western Animation is stuck in (I mean, the other reveal was that terrible Thundercats reboot).

Love it or hate it, Voltron has at least managed to show that a Western show, even based on an existing property, can at least hit that balance. Again, whether you like either the humor or the drama actually involved, but it's capable of both.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 19 May 2018 - 07:59 AM.

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Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:03 AM

Dreamworks has been pretty good on both animation on story on almost all of what they've done on netflix so far. Sure, trollhunter is more of their baseline CG stuff which was never very emotive or expressive to begin with, but the story is spot on awesome.

 

If they do for she-ra what they did with voltron: yeah, it could be damned good. There's lots of basic story elements in she-ra could create a grand scene to tell a story in: and without the bother of early 80's TV censors to demand an unreasonable standard for broadcasting...

 

There's potential here. Lots of it. I think I will try it.



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Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:41 AM

argh when can we get Orko and the Sorcerors of Trolla?

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:48 AM

I don't see Mantenna on the cast list...

C'monnn... Y'gotta have Mantenna! Who is Hordak gonna toss down his trap door?

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 09:10 AM

Speaking as someone who's only vaguely interested in He-Man and the mythos surrounding him...this has gotten me curious.


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 09:13 AM

I don't see Mantenna on the cast list...

C'monnn... Y'gotta have Mantenna! Who is Hordak gonna toss down his trap door?

 

heh, being the Horde's buttmonkey was his only use. As long as they keep him the useless lacky and didn't try to make him more serious I wouldn't mind him, but really there are much better characters for them to use. I'm more disapointed about the lack of Imp, he was a wonderfully bratty character that had some good use as essentually Hordak's eyes and I loved his interactions with Hordak and the others becuase that little asshole could get away with just about anything.

 

...Shit they're also missing Madam Razz and Cowl. That's like making a He-Man reboot without Orko...


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