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@  Sean Whitmore : (15 January 2019 - 08:47 PM)

The fact that Adventure Time was on the air for 8 years and at no point did Nintendo hand the creators a large sack of money and say, "Please make a Mario thing for us" will forever anger me.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 07:03 PM)

There was so much awesome put into design and conception of the super mario bros. movie, and it didn't even need the branding: but it wouldn't have made it to the screen without the branding.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:56 PM)

Many aspects of it have stuck in my memory, though. The boots, the devolution ray, the aesthetic of the dinosaur city

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

I had no idea there was another Mario Bros. movie coming out, though. Doubt it'll top the first one, it was just so bizarre

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

They already act a bit like minions; they just aren't stupid

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 05:35 PM)

The trouble is: I honestly can't decide if making them minions would be better or worse than the continuously shrill voices they've used for the last 20 years.

@  Paladin : (15 January 2019 - 05:27 PM)

hope everyone's ready for Toads to look, act & sound like the Minions forever...

@  Lancer : (15 January 2019 - 04:54 PM)

I mean, considering Illumination is making the new Mario movie, Super Mario Bros. 1993 won't be the worst Mario movie anymore

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 04:36 PM)

"Sir, your pizza's here." "Not now!"

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 04:28 PM)

Actually, yeah. I think I need to watch it again. Great movie.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 03:44 PM)

It's a fun movie with amazing sets. As long as you don't try to connect it to anything else Mario, it's fine.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 03:38 PM)

Damn, I haven't thought about the Super Mario Bros. feature film in forever. Need to watch it again, soon; I can only imagine it gets better with time.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Re:Zero is a fantastic series.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 03:10 PM)

Yeah it's not a bad concept, it's just that lately the term is associated with "I, a Loser Everyman, Woke Up In a Generic Fantasy Setting Where I'm Super Special So Now Girls Orbit Me"

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 12:59 PM)

So too is the old Super Mario Bros movie

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 12:28 PM)

I went and looked up the term "isekai"... that's not actually as bad as I thought it was going to be.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 12:19 PM)

I'm not sure, but the cartoon segments of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Wait. A. Minute. Is Blaster Master an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (15 January 2019 - 08:49 AM)

*Dragon Slave*

@  Xellos : (15 January 2019 - 06:22 AM)

I used to use a pic like that as my avatar for years, but that... is a secret.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 02:07 AM)

Is Flatland an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (14 January 2019 - 11:16 PM)

@Xellos Every time I see you post, I picture Xellos' infuriating smug grin and finger waggling with the "sore wa hi*mi*tsu*desu <3"

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 09:50 PM)

The Last Starfighter is also one of those

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

Astronaut gets shot through a wornhole and ends up on a living starship full of escaped alien prisoners.

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

I realized a few months ago that Farscape is a sci-fi-based Isekai.

@  Sabrblade : (14 January 2019 - 09:03 PM)

The Thor movies and Enchanted, as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 January 2019 - 08:45 PM)

@xellos We get to many of those in Hollywood movies.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 08:13 PM)

Re:Creators!

@  Xellos : (14 January 2019 - 07:47 PM)

There is also Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero, where people regularly get summoned to a fantasy world, then eventually sent back with their accumulated powers (and the main character smuggles the demon lord's daugher by his request, which is a no-no)

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 07:23 PM)

We need more inverse isekais, like The Devil is a Part-Timer

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 04:11 PM)

I feel like Tron is pushing it but I can't actually come up with an argument to that effect

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

To Arazyr- I don't see why it wouldn't be.

@  Xellos : (14 January 2019 - 02:11 PM)

Just like how TRON and Captain N are early examples of "getting transported into a video game"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (14 January 2019 - 02:07 PM)

That would explain why it's so common for isekai settings to be blatantly RPG-inspired.

@  Arazyr : (14 January 2019 - 01:42 PM)

Would the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon count as isekai? 8^)

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 12:06 PM)

I am in the exceedingly unpleasant position of knowing what you're talking about

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 12:05 PM)

So I'll just say I can consume the series without endorsing the real-life lie that false rape accusations are common and successful.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 12:04 PM)

I would go on to talk about that, but alas, that would spoil significant future story details about the accuser.

@  B-Fox : (14 January 2019 - 12:03 PM)

Shield Hero dared to have a male character falsely accused of rape, right?

@  B-Fox : (14 January 2019 - 12:02 PM)

At least now people will stop shitting on slice-of-life shows....

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 12:01 PM)

listen just because it has shield in its name does not mean you need to ally with it

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 12:01 PM)

oh good lord

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 12:00 PM)

In fact, the Shield Hero series does not portray slavery as a good thing nor keep the initial slave characters down for the count.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 12:00 PM)

If you're referring to The Rising of the Shield Hero, the backlash from some Western fans is misaimed, IMO.

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 11:59 AM)

I wish I was more surprised that "slavery apologetics" is a thing. Still disgusted.

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 11:53 AM)

But surely we all know the best isekai is Captain N.

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 11:49 AM)

This morning I saw one of my friends express disbelief at having an opportunity to say "yet another slavery apologist isekai"

@  Lancer : (14 January 2019 - 11:21 AM)

Although recently they explicably acquire a harem by purchasing them as slaves, which makes it that much worse

@  Lancer : (14 January 2019 - 11:21 AM)

I think what people hate is the modern trend of isekai taking place in generic-ass fantasy settings with bland, oft-overpowered male protagonists that inexplicably acquire a harem.

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Does Kingdom Hearts count? On the one hand it's a serial world hopping adventure, on the other hand all the worlds are contained within the same overworld that the characters have always been in, just unaware of.


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#1 Copper Bezel

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 05:45 AM

So there was another EW reveal today. This franchise has always been a couple of removes away for me, but it's Dreamworks doing another Netflix show, so it's hard for that too go too terribly wrong, right?

 

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 05:51 AM

Is she pansexual?



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Posted 19 May 2018 - 05:57 AM

Lot of awesome people in the cast. I hope they can manage something cool that can pull itself free of the shadow of He-Man.

But also has lots of He-Man? NO

At any rate... bring it on. They can save He-Man for the inevitable "MOTU: Go Roar".

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 06:06 AM

But also has lots of He-Man? NO


Eh? The cast list doesn't mention anyone playing Adam or Skeletor.

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 06:28 AM

I may have worded that confusingly, I didn't mean to suggest that I thought He-Man would be present; I was saying "I hope they make a show good enough that people don't spend the whole time waiting for He-Man, but also I will be one of those people and I would probably like to see He-Man but I don't want to do this show that disservice". NOTE: THIS POST MAY NOT HAVE EFFECTIVELY CLARIFIED MY POINT

It seems weird for them to resurrect a He-Man spinoff without putting a little He-Man in it, but also from what little we know about this show it seems crazy to think they'd lead with anything heavily Adamy because that would really kind of dilute Adora's whole thing, right? It's hard to imagine that this will be a show that says "here's a chick who bounced out of a boything". However they choose to address Adam - if they ever do - I'm sure they'll execute it well, but I wouldn't want to guess what that would look like at this point. For all we know the pilot will be packed with surprise MOTU junk, though I doubt it!

There will inevitably be people watching who just can't get past Where Is He-Man, and I will struggle to avoid being one of them because I'm old and to me these characters go together by default, but one imagines I'm not necessarily the demo the show is keen to capture. Seems like there's a solid team behind this show and hopefully they'll hit it out of the park and nobody will give a shit about He-Man.

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 06:40 AM

I dunno, if the He-Man franchise proper isnt popular enough to support itself, I dont expect a He-man spinoff to do any better. I guess the netflix distribution could make the difference but Im skeptical of its chances for success.

And maybe they can actually use the swords as swords this time

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 06:50 AM

Yeah, there's at least as much nostalgia out there for She-Ra as for He-Man and they've always seemed like pretty independent products based on the same model to me. This isn't a case like the Venom movie where I think they're necessarily going to lose something by leaving out the parent franchise. I definitely don't think either is more dependent on the other, so I'd think if you can try and fail to reboot MotU, you can try to reboot She-Ra, too.


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 06:55 AM

Ignoring any relevant context or whatever I think the names "She-ra" and "Hordak" sound better than "He-man" and "Skeletor".

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 06:56 AM

The "...and the Princessess of Power" is new. I mean, She-Ra was The Princess of Power. This seems like its going in an interesting direction.

Was the original She-Ra in another world, seperate from Eternia? If so then i can certainly see how they can introduce Adora with little or no He-Man baggage. Possibly.

EDIT: I'd say Skeletor is on a par with Hordak for cool villain name. But , She-Ra is better than He Man.

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:13 AM

I'm looking forward to this.

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:20 AM

Was the original She-Ra in another world, seperate from Eternia? If so then i can certainly see how they can introduce Adora with little or no He-Man baggage. Possibly.

Yeah, it's a whole parallel thing.  Fighting Hordak in place of Skeletor on Etheria in place of Eternia, transforms using her own Sword of Protection instead of the Power Sword, which has to do with Castle Grayskull but also the Crystal Castle. She's introduced as He-Man's long-lost brother and meets him for her introduction, but otherwise it's just this entire rebranded set of MotU things and no interaction with MotU.


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:25 AM

My thoughts to this are, it could be really good or really bad. I never saw much of the original He-man series, even less of She-ra, I saw some of that futurtic spin off of He-man, where he not longer looks like a barbarian but I don't recall it that well, I saw the last He-man series completely and I couldn't understand why it didn't get a third season because it was pretty good, but then I could say the same about the Thundercats series from a few years ago, that was pretty good. Anyway, I think the idea behind this She-ra series is to help balance out the sucess that is Voltron, Voltron is kind of aimmed at boys primary with most of the cast being men, so they clearly want to do something for the girls and not go like a lot of other shows aimmed at girls, something a bit more action packed, but time will tell. who knows, maybe He-man will do what She-ra did when it first came along, spin out of the series.


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:48 AM

I don't super care but at least it means Jordan Fischer is in work for a bit. I kind of do want to be excited, but it feels like this'll fall in that "This is taking itself too seriously"/'This is waaaaaay too goofy" dichotomy that Western Animation is stuck in (I mean, the other reveal was that terrible Thundercats reboot).


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:59 AM

I'm eager for this, I've always prefered She-Ra to He-Man, even watching it recently She-Ra feels like a more mature cartoon then He-Man. She-Ra is part of a group of Rebels, fighting against an evil Empire, It's almost the exact oppisite of He-Man. On Etheria evil's won, Hordak rules all and does everythign he can to stay in power. You got a group that's mostly  fighting with swords and bows and the occasional magic user, vs a group that's got tanks, death rays, and endless robotic soldiers. Even with her super powers, She-Ra and her co-horts are behind the 8-ball, and a lot of plots tend to show that. You get episodes dealing with regular civilians trying to survive this war and weither they should support She-Ra and potentially be killed by the Horde for it, or keep their heads down and try to be loyal citizens in hopes they won't catch a hordesman on a bad day they ruins their lives for no reason. You got an episode about  book burning and how Hordak is trying to erase anything that claims the horde hasn't always been in power. You got an episode where Hordak's super weapon uses prisoners as batteries, draining them of their lives. 

 

For a Filmation series, a series aimed at girls, and just an 80's cartoon in general, this shit gets surprisingly dark at times. Sure good always wins out in the end, and their is still a level of humor about everything, but this has an on-going storyline, not as continous as what you see nowadays, but it was still telling a story where stuff would come back later and still be important. If you got Netflix, the whole  seires is on there last I checked. Seriously try and watch it, its got a lot of good and interestign stuff in it. And I hope, espically since this is Dreamwave and we know from Voltron they can do a damn good job, that this tries to keep some of those themes and ideas around.


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:59 AM

I don't super care but at least it means Jordan Fischer is in work for a bit. I kind of do want to be excited, but it feels like this'll fall in that "This is taking itself too seriously"/'This is waaaaaay too goofy" dichotomy that Western Animation is stuck in (I mean, the other reveal was that terrible Thundercats reboot).

Love it or hate it, Voltron has at least managed to show that a Western show, even based on an existing property, can at least hit that balance. Again, whether you like either the humor or the drama actually involved, but it's capable of both.


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:03 AM

Dreamworks has been pretty good on both animation on story on almost all of what they've done on netflix so far. Sure, trollhunter is more of their baseline CG stuff which was never very emotive or expressive to begin with, but the story is spot on awesome.

 

If they do for she-ra what they did with voltron: yeah, it could be damned good. There's lots of basic story elements in she-ra could create a grand scene to tell a story in: and without the bother of early 80's TV censors to demand an unreasonable standard for broadcasting...

 

There's potential here. Lots of it. I think I will try it.



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Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:41 AM

argh when can we get Orko and the Sorcerors of Trolla?

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:48 AM

I don't see Mantenna on the cast list...

C'monnn... Y'gotta have Mantenna! Who is Hordak gonna toss down his trap door?

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 09:10 AM

Speaking as someone who's only vaguely interested in He-Man and the mythos surrounding him...this has gotten me curious.


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 09:13 AM

I don't see Mantenna on the cast list...

C'monnn... Y'gotta have Mantenna! Who is Hordak gonna toss down his trap door?

 

heh, being the Horde's buttmonkey was his only use. As long as they keep him the useless lacky and didn't try to make him more serious I wouldn't mind him, but really there are much better characters for them to use. I'm more disapointed about the lack of Imp, he was a wonderfully bratty character that had some good use as essentually Hordak's eyes and I loved his interactions with Hordak and the others becuase that little asshole could get away with just about anything.

 

...Shit they're also missing Madam Razz and Cowl. That's like making a He-Man reboot without Orko...


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