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@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I might need to update my software, or they face regional limitations, cause I found no evidence of either.

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 February 2020 - 10:31 PM)

DUDE! Starcom and COPS are on Tubi too!

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 February 2020 - 09:29 PM)

Spiffy! The english dub of Bubblegum Crisis on Tubi. It's gotten so hard to find these oldies on modern streaming services.

@  Nevermore : (20 February 2020 - 08:44 PM)

And now I know and now I know and now I know that you can hear me, know that you can hear me, know that you can hear me.

@  Nevermore : (20 February 2020 - 08:31 PM)

Oh, oh, people can you hear me? People can you hear me? People can you hear me?

@  Echowarrior : (20 February 2020 - 06:39 PM)

Let me go-o-o-o!

@  Telly : (20 February 2020 - 05:41 PM)

Galileo Galileo!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (20 February 2020 - 05:36 PM)

Very very fright-ning me!

@  Sabrblade : (20 February 2020 - 04:02 PM)

*thunder and lightning*

@  ▲ndrusi : (20 February 2020 - 03:46 PM)

Ah, ah, ah!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (20 February 2020 - 03:33 PM)

Already did. It didn't take long.

@  Dekafox : (19 February 2020 - 06:14 PM)

Count Zero?

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 February 2020 - 03:53 PM)

Oh boy, here we go.

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:34 PM)

Or do Japan's cultural values vary depending on exactly who you're trying to shut down?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:33 PM)

Could it be that, perhaps, these different cultural values might lead to a different approach seeming appropriate?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Hm. Back when we were arguing about the Legends comic, I seem to recall being repeatedly told that Japan had different cultural values than the US (and therefore anyone who had a problem with anything at all was wrong to voice that opinion ever).

@  fourteenwings : (19 February 2020 - 07:23 AM)

Plus, as much as I hate to admit it, every single anime character is built to suit the audience's tastes so they buy more merch/do other things that allow $$$ to flow in the production committees direction, so the authenticity is certainly not for representation's sake.

@  fourteenwings : (19 February 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Both those anime air at midnight and are aimed at a very specific audience in a whole other media landscape. Major projects have press releases about almost everything, and there are groups just waiting to pat anybody on the back for doing what they want (GLAAD, HRC, etc)

@  B-Fox : (19 February 2020 - 03:16 AM)

It's funny that a friggin' anime about zombie idols and an anime about a school of anthropomorphic animals can have really positive trans characters WITHOUT a press release about their inclusion in the series prior to the episodes airing or having the creators announcing it on social media and patting themselves on the back for doing a thing.

@  TriBlurr : (18 February 2020 - 10:26 PM)

Vegan meat needs bacon

@  Paladin : (18 February 2020 - 08:43 PM)

vegan meat must taste delicious. they're grass-fed and regularly exercised....

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 06:57 PM)

Vegans are better than kids if you don't talk to them. They'll keep the lawn trimmed anyway.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Do you want vegans? Because that's how you get vegans.

@  CORVUS : (18 February 2020 - 04:33 PM)

Hook up your sprinkler system to a canister of healthy organic carrot-juice. The kids won't be able to get off your lawn fast enough.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2020 - 03:59 PM)

Just use the hose.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 03:52 PM)

Ask bing. It'll be a FAR more effective answer.

@  TrnsfrmGod : (18 February 2020 - 03:26 PM)

Google, how do I get those durned kids off my lawn?

@  TrnsfrmGod : (18 February 2020 - 03:26 PM)

Please ignore.  Old man here apparently doesn't know the difference between the "Search" field and the "Shoutbox" field.

 

Also doesn't know how to delete from the shoutbox

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 07:33 AM)

Huhn. Penny arcade was right, the division 2 is literally 3 dollars...

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 11:05 PM)

Oh, Wicked Cool Toys got the Halo toy license. This is a big year for Jazwares

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 07:02 PM)

iTunes/Apple TV has the complete Cowboy Bebop series for just $5!

@  fourteenwings : (17 February 2020 - 12:41 AM)

The Samsung Galaxy B-TOOM!

@  Paladin : (16 February 2020 - 07:20 PM)

business is booming.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 February 2020 - 06:49 PM)

SAmsung has you covered. Exploding phones.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Modern problems require modern solutions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Japan seems to have a tradition of murder things where cellphones facilitate the killing instead. Like King's Game and Doubt.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 05:17 PM)

Or there's just conveniently no reception, or all of their phones are dead at the same time. Or they're just stupid and forget about them.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 04:41 PM)

Now the slasher villain has to go and knock over the nearest cell tower before butchering horny teenagers.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 03:54 PM)

Think of all the horror and mystery movies that involve the bad guys cutting the phone line. Now think about how many people don't even have a land line to cut anymore.

@  Telly : (16 February 2020 - 03:47 PM)

its like that scene in commando. the bad guy has to get to a phone to call the big bad to tell him arnold isnt on the plane. that wouldnt happen today

@  Rycochet : (16 February 2020 - 03:18 PM)

Watching early episodes of the x-files will make you feel super old once you start to notice the techology they use, and the technology they lack.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 February 2020 - 01:00 PM)

This guy.

@  Roddie Luver : (15 February 2020 - 10:55 PM)

Hey

@  Kalidor : (14 February 2020 - 03:01 PM)

The ones that get me are the "Uploaded 12 years ago" ones

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 February 2020 - 02:49 PM)

Makes you feel old, don't it?

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 February 2020 - 02:38 PM)

While browsing Youtube vids I read these comments: 'The X Files is such an underrated show' and another 'Brent Spiner is a underrated actor' I want to punch something.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2020 - 12:16 PM)

Besides: cupid freaks me out. "Find someone to love, or I'll SHOOT YOU".

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 February 2020 - 12:11 PM)

It's just the day before Cheap Chocolate Day.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2020 - 12:08 PM)

Meh, just more game time.

@  Paladin : (14 February 2020 - 10:55 AM)

Valentine's day. Bummer.


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#21 NotVeryKnightly

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 05:14 PM

I feel like straight limbs with single joints in the middle are going to be as much of a dated signifier of a bygone art style as the toothy, jowly, bouncing to music Max Fleischer stuff of the 1930s.


Did Fleischer cartoons actually look like that or is that a different stereotype?

Admittedly, my knowledge of those is mostly restricted to mentions of Fleischer Superman's influence on '90s DC cartoons.

edit: sorry if the question comes off weird but I am kind of curious.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 05:27 PM

I doult I'll bother with this, I rather liked the last attempt at Thundercats but obviously something went wrong, I doult it will make much headway generally, it seems like the TV shows for kids these days are all about comedy and horrible animation to be shoved down the kids thoats. Only a very rare few shows are actually watchable these days because they got good story telling but honestly reducing Thundercats to whatever that is meant to be, seems like something you would more likely get in japan anime after a ep of a more serious show airred and then you get the parody of it which I tend to skip, in other words, I am extremely, unlikely to bother with this!


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#23 Copper Bezel

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 05:29 PM

Yeah, they can do cartoons that look like Steven Universe and Adventure time forever if they're all as awesome as those shows.

-ZacWilliam, great shows are great.

The fact that those shows are written and structured well doesn't make the art style a good choice. In SU's case it holds the series back, nothing about SU is the dopey comedy show the art implies it is. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 05:31 PM

 

I feel like straight limbs with single joints in the middle are going to be as much of a dated signifier of a bygone art style as the toothy, jowly, bouncing to music Max Fleischer stuff of the 1930s.


Did Fleischer cartoons actually look like that or is that a different stereotype?

Admittedly, my knowledge of those is mostly restricted to mentions of Fleischer Superman's influence on '90s DC cartoons.

edit: sorry if the question comes off weird but I am kind of curious.

Yeah it was a thing at the time.


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#25 Noideaforaname

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 05:48 PM

Boy I'm tired of that animation style. And vaguely worried by the way the producer there needs to make a huge point on how faithful and actiony it's going to be. I mean, every new adaption kinda needs to say that, but still.

 

Enjoyed the intro, though.



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 05:48 PM

Everything popular eventually goes out of style.

Theres really no platonic ideal to anything. ESPECIALLY when it comes to something as freeform as animation.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:03 PM

Thinking about it a bit more, I feel lile this would've been a great direction to take Heman. Maybe not the same animation style, but I see this approach benefiting that brand a bit more.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:09 PM

Sure, kids are trading He-Man memes on Facebook without having ever seen the series, right? I think it actually occupies the right space for it. But that's also due the fact that ThunderCats just isn't as big and memorable a property, even if they're similarly objectively terrible in retrospect.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


#29 Dave Zero1

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:11 PM

Every art movement goes through a renaissance, zenith and decadence. A new style comes on the scene (Adventure time) which inspires other artists who then perfect it and bring it to new heights (Steven Universe) only for it to lose itself and fall out of style. I have no doubt we've reached the decadence period now, sooner or later someone will try something new which will be the next big thing and the cycle will start all over again.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:17 PM

I know it's a distinction without a difference, that a language is a dialect with an army and that a religion is a cult with ... also an army, but an art movement or style with a ten-year life cycle or shelf life is called a "fad".


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Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


#31 Dave Zero1

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:26 PM

I guess my real question is "Who is this for?" The target audience won't even remember the 2011 remake let alone the 80's version. And the audience they seem to want to appeal to with the callbacks is pushing 40 and in general are not big fans of this style.



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:29 PM

My reaction as summed up in 11 seconds of NSFW video.

 

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:33 PM

I guess my real question is "Who is this for?" The target audience won't even remember the 2011 remake let alone the 80's version. And the audience they seem to want to appeal to with the callbacks is pushing 40 and in general are not big fans of this style.

I'm most baffled how the video seems to call attention to that. "You don't know what a ThunderCat is?" All I can think is that we're looking at something like the push to unify Transformers branding, that everything can be an all-ages brand now and that they're hoping parents who remember ThunderCats will buy ThunderCats for their kids. 


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:39 PM

 

Yeah, they can do cartoons that look like Steven Universe and Adventure time forever if they're all as awesome as those shows.

-ZacWilliam, great shows are great.

The fact that those shows are written and structured well doesn't make the art style a good choice. In SU's case it holds the series back, nothing about SU is the dopey comedy show the art implies it is. 

I think that may be part of the intention?  Definitely in Adventure Time's case.  It seems to be deliberately using the cartoony style as a way of highlighting the horror of the world in which Finn lives.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:40 PM

Interesting.

Not what I was expecting.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:55 PM

I swear,  if this ends up like Teens Titans Go, where it's mostly stupid humor that causes little kids to like it to the point where it gets renewed a lot and has episodes mocking fans of the original, then Cartoon Network has officially cemented itself as the home of horrid reboots that ruin childhood classics for the sake of money.



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:59 PM

The fact that those shows are written and structured well doesn't make the art style a good choice. In SU's case it holds the series back, nothing about SU is the dopey comedy show the art implies it is.

I think that may be part of the intention?  Definitely in Adventure Time's case.  It seems to be deliberately using the cartoony style as a way of highlighting the horror of the world in which Finn lives.

It feels a lot more dissonant to me in SU, since Adventure Time's world just has more of the chaos and sociopathy you expect from a cartoon world that's not quite so tightly structured. Of course, I haven't seen a lot of AT and I've seen all of SU so far, so.

 

I have no doubt that the look helped SU actually happen, since it makes the series look more like an Adventure Time than, well, a ThunderCats 2011, both in the programming block and in the budget. I also think some of the ugliness plays into the thematic ideas that reality is messy and no one is perfect, etc. in ways that, like, an idealized superhero look or something couldn't, comically undercutting these otherwise complex and human characters and working against the general cultural notion that heroes have to be pretty. And it's animated well and there's some occasionally good action in there.

 

But there's also a whole segment of viewers of the genre that it is that it's not going to reach that way, despite its phenomenal content under the surface, and that's kinda unfortunate. Plus I have to look at it to get the story. = P


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#38 D.M

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 07:02 PM

 

I'm 100% ok with the idea of a comedy take on Thundercats.

Reinvention is better than stagnation by far and that includes reinvention of genre style.

That said, this is not my favorite art style for this type of show at all. I havn't really watched OKKO ever but I'm not a fan of the look.

I am willing to give this a look though and judge it after watching a few.

-ZacWilliam, Thundercats is not something that absolutely demands being serious and goofy/stupid and a living property is better than being the corpse that is Joe or He-man imo.

 

Pretty much that.

 

The property is effectively dead and THIS is a far better move (even if it fails) than Super 7 churning out 80's rehashes for $40 each.

 

Then let it rest in peace.



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 07:04 PM

Nothing is allowed to die. Everything that has name recognition, to any degree, is a resource to be mined.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
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Posted 18 May 2018 - 07:11 PM

As with anything that has an immediately off-putting art style I'll give it a chance before I judge it, but initial reactions aren't kind.





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