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@  MEDdMI : (25 June 2019 - 07:06 AM)

I reject your canon and substitute my own

@  unluckiness : (25 June 2019 - 12:32 AM)

Answer: It doesn't matter because even if there was one, it was never relevant in S1 and it got blown up with his original body

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 June 2019 - 10:55 PM)

Most people think Transformers canon is a series of discrete parallel lines, really it's more like a big ball of canony-wanony... stuff.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 June 2019 - 06:31 PM)

Hate to say this, but the simple answer is that you are thinking too hard and realistically, it does not matter.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2019 - 04:57 PM)

Don't tell me what to do.

@  Paladin : (24 June 2019 - 04:16 PM)

don't cross the streams.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 03:03 PM)

Or is this what AVP meant when he said that condradictory streams formed the JG1 timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:25 PM)

I don't like that idea.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:24 PM)

In Ask Vector Prime, it was mentioned that in the Beast Wars 2 universe, Convoys all have Energon Matrices and that when Optimus Primal from the Japanese Beast Wars stream was transported to the Beast Wars 2 stream, his history was subtly altered that he too possessed an Energon Matrix. What does this mean? That Beast Wars 2 is actually not canon to the Japanese Beast Wars?

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 08:54 AM)

yeah, I've got a few others that I need to check out/get removed. The nose one is small but annoying since I hit it every time I blow my nose.

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 08:46 AM)

Try to get a histopath examination if it isn't too expensive over there. It's probably just a mole but I'd think certainty would be better.

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 07:59 AM)

@unluckiness I know, plan to get it removed but gotta get an appt first

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

oops... typed that in the wrong field. :)

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

gizmoboy

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 03:18 AM)

That is not a good thing, especially in the long term

@  MEDdMI : (23 June 2019 - 10:17 PM)

So who wants to hear about this mole on my nose that I keep scratching open

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 June 2019 - 09:24 PM)

Yeah, it's kind of defeating the purpose of making political discussions more restricted if you're just gonna go at it elsewhere on this site.

@  Telly : (23 June 2019 - 07:06 PM)

that would probly fit better in the p & r thread. its there for things just like this

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:29 PM)

The citizens resisted by buying up all the town's beer reserves so the Nazis would have to stay sober the entire time.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:28 PM)

Meanwhile, congratulations civil resistance, part 2: So a group of Nazis were holding one of their Good Old Times Reenactment festivals in a small East German town.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:26 PM)

It's basically like an anti-Trump candidate winning Texas.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:25 PM)

The mayoral elections of Istanbul are considered to be a key indicator for the political climate in the entire country.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:24 PM)

This time, it was a landslide victory for the opposition's candidate.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:23 PM)

After president Erdogan had a court revoke the results of the mayoral election of Istanbul after the opposition party's candidate had won by a small margin, the election was repeated today.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Congratulations, democracy part 1: Today is a historic day for Turkey.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 June 2019 - 02:31 PM)

Convert, does he timeout?

@  unluckiness : (23 June 2019 - 09:12 AM)

Did he form the feet and legs or the arms and body?

@  Patch : (22 June 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Nah, he was one of the Lions

@  MEDdMI : (22 June 2019 - 04:45 PM)

Is he a Shellformer

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2019 - 12:38 PM)

Supposedly it's about that football player Calvin Johnson.

@  Pennpenn : (22 June 2019 - 07:03 AM)

I'm vaguely confused why there is a Nicki Minaj song in my youtube reccomendations, but even more confused as to why that song (which appears to be from an official account) is called "MEGATRON".

@  Liege : (21 June 2019 - 10:03 PM)

Alpha Q all night long.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 June 2019 - 10:44 AM)

Only if you ask nicely, Silv.

@  RichardT1977 : (21 June 2019 - 09:42 AM)

1998 Zilla is the Gaijin era.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 June 2019 - 01:59 AM)

Alpha Q?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 June 2019 - 01:16 AM)

Alpha Q, and U, but not U.

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 June 2019 - 08:55 PM)

KISS Players

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 June 2019 - 07:15 PM)

Ultra Q

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 June 2019 - 03:15 PM)

So which series is 90s American Godzilla?

@  Dekafox : (20 June 2019 - 03:12 PM)

So G1 Marvel would be Showa Transformers then

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 June 2019 - 12:37 PM)

Yes.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 June 2019 - 12:05 PM)

Is it weeby of me to refer to the two IDW TF continuities as Heisei and Reiwa? I mean, the switchover almost perfectly lines up with the change of eras...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 June 2019 - 10:35 AM)

I hate when the spicy version of something isn't spicy!

@  Pennpenn : (20 June 2019 - 08:43 AM)

I hate it when the spicy version of something is in almost identical packaging to the non-spicy version. Especially when I don't notice until I've got home.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 June 2019 - 05:44 PM)

They make a lot of pills for that.

@  Nevermore : (19 June 2019 - 05:42 PM)

I got the results of the test back. I definitely have no sense of humor.

@  Paladin : (18 June 2019 - 05:59 PM)

so anyway how is your sex life?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 June 2019 - 10:50 AM)

These jokes are tearing me apart.

@  unluckiness : (18 June 2019 - 08:55 AM)

Only if the customer reviews give it all high marks.

@  Patch : (18 June 2019 - 04:42 AM)

Are they going to call it "I-Did-Nawtflix?"


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#1 SHIELD Agent 47

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:00 PM

Wow, first live-action appearance of Batwoman ever! I hope it's Kate Kane.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 12:24 AM

The sixth season of Arrow had two consecutive competitors for the worst villain of the show ever (as in, genuinely worse than Damien Darhk) along with a plot that boiled down to "Oliver is wrong because the writers said so so let's all start making the worst decisions possible". The funniest thing was that Oliver was actually last to start screwing up.

 

So Season 5 was actually better.

 

Spoiler

 

Anyways we officially have Superman on Earth 52, so this'll make Batman an even more glaring omission.

 

I like the crossovers well enough even if they do mean having to watch an episode of The Flash, so this is good news.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 03:53 AM

please just don't make her somehow be Alex (supergirl's sister) ... 

 

it's perfectly fine with me DC if there is more than one Redhead ;) 



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:37 AM

Hasn't Supergirl intimated that her cousin has run into Batman before?


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:08 AM

Bruce Wayne was name dropped in Arrow.



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:48 AM

As was Oracle (back when they started calling Felicity "Overwatch"). Even before that, Harley Quinn had showed up as a cameo (which kinda requires that A. Joker exists and B. Joker has been caught at least once).

And over on her Earth, Supergirl mentioned people wearing masks in Gotham.

Though I still hope that they someday introduce Stephanie Brown in Supergirl. Using this exact scene.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:57 AM

LOL "There was a retcon don't worry about it"



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 10:35 AM

Anyways we officially have Superman on Earth 52,

Which Earth is that?


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 12:29 PM

I'm hoping Batwoman is based in Earth-38, just so we can get regular World's Finest teamups without having to go through the process of breaching over each time.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 02:20 PM

 

Anyways we officially have Superman on Earth 52,

Which Earth is that?

 

Supergirl's Earth



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 02:44 PM

 

 

Anyways we officially have Superman on Earth 52,

Which Earth is that?

 

Supergirl's Earth

 

No it isn't. Supergirl's is Earth-38.


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No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 02:52 PM

Well than at least 2 earth's have a superman in that case



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 03:54 PM

This season of Arrow was cringe-inducingly bad. I haven't seen either Flash or Supergirl since they came back from their last hiatus. And Legends of Tomorrow has always sucked.

 

So, sure, Batwoman, why not. Anything to spark the modicum of interest I have left in this whole universe.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:09 PM

Legends of Tomorrow is fantastic and currently the only reliable corner of the Arrowverse. After a disastrous first season, they pretty much immediately corrected all their issues with the second, and haven't stopped.

I think the main thing that's helped them was leaning into the "team of screwups" angle. Seeing well-meaning and likable people who are pretty much guaranteed to get things wrong, but will do their best to make it right, that makes you want to root for them. On the other hand, we are constantly being told that Barry Allen is a great human being while he constantly does things that are stupid and inconsiderate.

Legends also has a great sense of humor about the Arrowverse. They can't go full-Deadpool, but there's been some great jokes in there for people who've stuck around this long.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 07:53 PM

I think what made this season of Arrow (and Flash) so cringe worthy at times, is that they're too long. Plot points get stretched out, when really they should be worked out in 2 - 4 episodes.  In Arrow it was the whole B-Team being stupid for most of the season, then Diglit having a turn and finally Oliver being made dumb in the last few episodes before the finale. Didn't help the the main big bad is just a thug, who somehow is more of a threat then everything they faced before. Feels like he should've been a season two baddy, not season 6.

 

On Flash it wasn't AS bad, but still they could've done better. I mean, Barry coming out of the Speedforce, was supposed to have gained so much knowlage and be so much better then he was before. It's a bit of a let down that they had him forget everything and underplaying the fact he's ust as smart as everyone else in team Flash.

 

As for Batwoman showing up next season. I like it. With Titans dropping on DC Universe before hand, building up some of the Bat Family, they could use Batwoman to really bring Gotham (the city not the show) into the Arrowverse. Build it up over a season or two and then when Arrow has it's last season, replace it with a Gothem based series.



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:34 PM

I think what made this season of Arrow (and Flash) so cringe worthy at times, is that they're too long. Plot points get stretched out, when really they should be worked out in 2 - 4 episodes.  In Arrow it was the whole B-Team being stupid for most of the season, then Diglit having a turn and finally Oliver being made dumb in the last few episodes before the finale. Didn't help the the main big bad is just a thug, who somehow is more of a threat then everything they faced before. Feels like he should've been a season two baddy, not season 6.

 

The main things I just couldn't get over:

 

1. The stupidity of the B-Team. Splitting them up from Team Arrow could have been a fine idea, but not in the middle of the city being held hostage, and not stemming from such an idiotic starting point ("How dare you spy on the three of us even though one of us LITERALLY did the EXACT thing you suspected one of us did").

 

2. The CW's continued inability to competently redeem its villains. Anatoly becomes decent because Diaz beat a tied-up Ollie? Hug you. Black Siren discovers a limit to her bloodthirstiness when it comes to burning rando civilians? Double hug you.

 

3. The lameness of Diaz. The matter-of-factness with which he bought off and/or controlled everyone in the city. Black Siren's unreasonable and unbelievable fear of him. The fact that he should have been murdered 6 times over in the Quadrant episode and just wasn't because plot. The fact that nobody takes any precautions against him knowing their secret identities. The fact that, during his one confrontation with Ollie before the finale, he had to pull a weapon so he didn't lose a hand-to-hand fight.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 09:04 PM

Diaz is another fine example of what we are TOLD about the character being completely unrelated to what we are shown.

We're told that he's been pulling the strings behind Cayden James' operation for the first half of the season, but most of his appearances up to that point have been practically cameos, with no hint of any importance. We're told that he's the most fearsome foe that Ollie's ever faced, but he's really this big manbaby that hides behind other people.

And worst of all: (SPOILER for last night's finale)
Spoiler


*ahem* Back to the original topic though, I am hopeful for the crossover. Invasion and Crisis On Earth-X were absolutely delightful. Even though TPTB struggle with plotting an entire season of television, they can clearly do well with making a 4-hour miniseries that can get the most out of it's entire cast.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 11:29 PM

So have they ever established whether Gotham is at all connected to the Arrowverse... perhaps set in the past (based on the old cellphones, tube TVs, etc.) of either Flash or Supergirl's Earth, or maybe just on one of the other alternate Earths... maybe the one recently mentioned on Flash that's "still on VHS".


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:10 AM

RagMan was great but it's probably best that he's left on the side of the show people actually liked.

 

New Team Arrow were a mess this year. Diaz was only slightly better than Cayden James which was just really really sad. There was genuinely a point where it seemed Felicity's hacker girl friend was taking out Cayden so she could become Arrow's first genuine female villain but like, that didn't happen. I have no idea why people expected that though, because it would have been a twist that made sense and was born from what had happened before.

 

Fake Laurel (Yanny?) was so many different people in every episode I still have no idea who she is. I did like her black wig.

 

I think what bothered me the most this season was how killing either Diaz and Cayden at any point after they'd been introduced was extremely easy. Maybe Cayden had the secret whatever codes and then that bomb that lost to darned William* of all people, but Diaz was literally the head of a criminal organization and the only reason people did what he wanted was because he was alive to blackmail them.

 

*Please, please get rid of William.

 

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 10:01 AM

So have they ever established whether Gotham is at all connected to the Arrowverse... perhaps set in the past (based on the old cellphones, tube TVs, etc.) of either Flash or Supergirl's Earth, or maybe just on one of the other alternate Earths... maybe the one recently mentioned on Flash that's "still on VHS".

It's never been connected to the Arrowverse.

 

Ra's al Ghul and his organization are all entirely different in that show, even.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.



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