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@  Shrug : (20 October 2018 - 05:28 AM)

Russian interference should have been fighting an uphill battle, but as far as I'm concerned we gave them a head start.

@  Shrug : (20 October 2018 - 05:23 AM)

I disagree with Hillary being a good choice to run against Trump. Plenty of mixed feelings about her long before 2016 within our own party. When the DNC has to rig it's own primaries to get their chosen candidate running, maybe you shouldn't expect an easy landslide at the actual election.

@  Pennpenn : (20 October 2018 - 05:20 AM)

It would have also helped if the US was also an actualy democracy where the candidate who gets the most votes wins, but hey.

@  Rycochet : (20 October 2018 - 04:42 AM)

You helped destroy western democracy, but hey, at least no-one can accuse you of bias... Oh wait, they did, still do, and are going to keep doing so as long as you report facts.

@  Rycochet : (20 October 2018 - 04:39 AM)

Hillary was a good choice to run against Trump, the big problem was the media crawling all over themselves to try and push the idea of fairness, and threw her under the bus to do so. Any hint of impropriety was treated as being exactly the same as actual proven criminal acts by Trump in order to avoid being seen as biased... and at the end of it all, he turned around and bit them for doing so because that's who he is.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:37 AM)

Many right-wingers are using its name as part of our version of the term "libtards": "Left-green filthy".

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:35 AM)

It's the only of the "established" parties (it's almost 40 years old at this point) that has remained true to its principles.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:34 AM)

Meanwhile, some uplifting news from Germany: While our big parties are rapidly losing voters, and our new "we're not really extreme" right-wing party is gaining voters, there is one other party that is scoring massive points, both in polls and the recent Bavarian state election: The Green Party.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:33 AM)

I still think having Hillary run against Drumpf was a bad choice.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 03:32 AM)

Well on the bright side, we know more people voted for HIllary than the cheeto.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:31 AM)

I guess many a prepper might have also voted for the person most likely to bring about the end of society they are waiting for.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:28 AM)

Now let that sink in, and then think about how many people voted for Agent Orange.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:27 AM)

Elected officials often represent how the voters either view themselves, or how they would like to be.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 12:21 AM)

Well I had 8 people watching my stream at one time tonight.. I call that a success...

@  Telly : (19 October 2018 - 11:08 PM)

my latest order from tfsource is coming from pennsylvania. all other ones have come from vegas (or thereabouts). did they move? is there a convention in pennsylvania theyre at and shipped from there?

@  MEDdMI : (19 October 2018 - 10:02 PM)

Unless it's the main cast of Persona 5.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 October 2018 - 10:02 PM)

I realize there is a certain irony in my vocabulary selection there.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 October 2018 - 10:01 PM)

People who admire public thieves and tricksters are.....sad.

@  Pennpenn : (19 October 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Ah damn it, need to go get some new headphones.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 October 2018 - 06:21 PM)

Power was out for most of the day, and now a boil water advisory. Been a great day so far...

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:31 PM)

Bottom line, he reminds them alternatively of all the con men they grew up with watching on television (i.e. televangelists) or their favorite character from the Bible (i.e. Old Testament God).

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:30 PM)

Bill Maher gave an excellent explanation for why the Religious Right loves Trump so much.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 October 2018 - 05:02 PM)

"NOOOO said the man in washington! It's belongs to the poor!"... oh boy was he wrong.

@  Paladin : (19 October 2018 - 04:34 PM)

see also Andrew Ryan

@  RichardT1977 : (19 October 2018 - 03:18 PM)

Also, "Big Father" has almost all the benefits of "Big Brother", but with none of the drawbacks.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 October 2018 - 02:22 PM)

I'd go with "moron", personally.

@  Pennpenn : (19 October 2018 - 10:02 AM)

Why not both?

@  Benbot : (19 October 2018 - 09:56 AM)

I think she was a psychopath.

@  Echowarrior : (19 October 2018 - 09:50 AM)

Ayn Rand was a pretentious bitch.

@  Noideaforaname : (19 October 2018 - 09:31 AM)

But Sven makes way more sense now

@  Noideaforaname : (19 October 2018 - 09:30 AM)

Man, watching the original Voltron cartoon for the first time is so weird after having only seen the Netflix reboot.

@  D.M : (19 October 2018 - 09:09 AM)

+They don't really give a crap about God. All their religious talk is just part of the mask. They wanna look like the ideal citizen (what they consider that to be) - the most Christian of all Christians, the most patriotic of all patriots, etc.

@  Pennpenn : (19 October 2018 - 08:13 AM)

That's because she was also greedy, heartless, and despised the poor, which is something the right often loves more than God.

@  RichardT1977 : (19 October 2018 - 07:55 AM)

I find it rather amusing that the party of the Religious Right sees wisdom in a woman who hated the notion of God almost as much as she hated and feared the idea of being part of a family.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:39 AM)

However, another big issue is cultural differences. We do have a sense of humor, it's just different than in other cultures because it is a product of a different culture. Simply put, what you might find incredibly funny is considered unfunny by Germans... and vice versa.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:38 AM)

It's actually a multi-faceted issue. Yes, some Germans are incredibly devoid of humor, although those people exist in other countries too. I have no ideas regarding statistics, but these people exist.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:37 AM)

So, about this long-standing stereotype that "Germans have no sense of humor"...

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 October 2018 - 03:49 AM)

I got enough Rand fighting my way through the Sword of Truth series. I can't imagine trying to read the original work.

@  Pennpenn : (19 October 2018 - 02:39 AM)

All the people who like Rand should go live in a big underwater city. I cannot foresee anything that could go wrong with such a scenario.

@  MidnightFox : (19 October 2018 - 01:13 AM)

Everyone needs to stop reading Rand

@  Tieria Prime : (18 October 2018 - 10:54 PM)

Gotten a new Gundam gunpla toy model kit 

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 October 2018 - 09:47 PM)

Ugh it's ridiculous how some people worship Rand's ideas.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 October 2018 - 09:07 PM)

That's one of the things the old cable companies got right: Only one or two options per area. The illusion of choice.

@  Paladin : (18 October 2018 - 08:48 PM)

business types need to stop reading Ayn Rand.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 October 2018 - 07:29 PM)

The streaming services are starting to get too saturated and start canabilising each other.

@  Steevy Maximus : (18 October 2018 - 06:50 PM)

Good thing I never bought into VRV...Funimation is pulling out. And I got into HiDive at $4 a month.

@  Echowarrior : (18 October 2018 - 10:21 AM)

The restauraunt messes up your food, you complain to customer service. Complain to 911 when you get food poisoning from said food.

@  MEDdMI : (18 October 2018 - 07:59 AM)

Ugh. I hate people sometimes.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2018 - 04:00 AM)

I mean, white people are calling the cops on black people for random shit lately, it appears.

@  Pennpenn : (18 October 2018 - 02:49 AM)

It's not that surprising that some people freaked out enough over Youtube being down that they'd call emergency services. I mean, I've heard of at least one instance of someone calling 911 because the restaurant didn't make a cheeseburger to their liking.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:00 PM

Wow, first live-action appearance of Batwoman ever! I hope it's Kate Kane.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 12:24 AM

The sixth season of Arrow had two consecutive competitors for the worst villain of the show ever (as in, genuinely worse than Damien Darhk) along with a plot that boiled down to "Oliver is wrong because the writers said so so let's all start making the worst decisions possible". The funniest thing was that Oliver was actually last to start screwing up.

 

So Season 5 was actually better.

 

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Anyways we officially have Superman on Earth 52, so this'll make Batman an even more glaring omission.

 

I like the crossovers well enough even if they do mean having to watch an episode of The Flash, so this is good news.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 03:53 AM

please just don't make her somehow be Alex (supergirl's sister) ... 

 

it's perfectly fine with me DC if there is more than one Redhead ;) 



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:37 AM

Hasn't Supergirl intimated that her cousin has run into Batman before?


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:08 AM

Bruce Wayne was name dropped in Arrow.



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:48 AM

As was Oracle (back when they started calling Felicity "Overwatch"). Even before that, Harley Quinn had showed up as a cameo (which kinda requires that A. Joker exists and B. Joker has been caught at least once).

And over on her Earth, Supergirl mentioned people wearing masks in Gotham.

Though I still hope that they someday introduce Stephanie Brown in Supergirl. Using this exact scene.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:57 AM

LOL "There was a retcon don't worry about it"



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 10:35 AM

Anyways we officially have Superman on Earth 52,

Which Earth is that?


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 12:29 PM

I'm hoping Batwoman is based in Earth-38, just so we can get regular World's Finest teamups without having to go through the process of breaching over each time.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 02:20 PM

 

Anyways we officially have Superman on Earth 52,

Which Earth is that?

 

Supergirl's Earth



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 02:44 PM

 

 

Anyways we officially have Superman on Earth 52,

Which Earth is that?

 

Supergirl's Earth

 

No it isn't. Supergirl's is Earth-38.


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No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 02:52 PM

Well than at least 2 earth's have a superman in that case



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 03:54 PM

This season of Arrow was cringe-inducingly bad. I haven't seen either Flash or Supergirl since they came back from their last hiatus. And Legends of Tomorrow has always sucked.

 

So, sure, Batwoman, why not. Anything to spark the modicum of interest I have left in this whole universe.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:09 PM

Legends of Tomorrow is fantastic and currently the only reliable corner of the Arrowverse. After a disastrous first season, they pretty much immediately corrected all their issues with the second, and haven't stopped.

I think the main thing that's helped them was leaning into the "team of screwups" angle. Seeing well-meaning and likable people who are pretty much guaranteed to get things wrong, but will do their best to make it right, that makes you want to root for them. On the other hand, we are constantly being told that Barry Allen is a great human being while he constantly does things that are stupid and inconsiderate.

Legends also has a great sense of humor about the Arrowverse. They can't go full-Deadpool, but there's been some great jokes in there for people who've stuck around this long.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 07:53 PM

I think what made this season of Arrow (and Flash) so cringe worthy at times, is that they're too long. Plot points get stretched out, when really they should be worked out in 2 - 4 episodes.  In Arrow it was the whole B-Team being stupid for most of the season, then Diglit having a turn and finally Oliver being made dumb in the last few episodes before the finale. Didn't help the the main big bad is just a thug, who somehow is more of a threat then everything they faced before. Feels like he should've been a season two baddy, not season 6.

 

On Flash it wasn't AS bad, but still they could've done better. I mean, Barry coming out of the Speedforce, was supposed to have gained so much knowlage and be so much better then he was before. It's a bit of a let down that they had him forget everything and underplaying the fact he's ust as smart as everyone else in team Flash.

 

As for Batwoman showing up next season. I like it. With Titans dropping on DC Universe before hand, building up some of the Bat Family, they could use Batwoman to really bring Gotham (the city not the show) into the Arrowverse. Build it up over a season or two and then when Arrow has it's last season, replace it with a Gothem based series.



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:34 PM

I think what made this season of Arrow (and Flash) so cringe worthy at times, is that they're too long. Plot points get stretched out, when really they should be worked out in 2 - 4 episodes.  In Arrow it was the whole B-Team being stupid for most of the season, then Diglit having a turn and finally Oliver being made dumb in the last few episodes before the finale. Didn't help the the main big bad is just a thug, who somehow is more of a threat then everything they faced before. Feels like he should've been a season two baddy, not season 6.

 

The main things I just couldn't get over:

 

1. The stupidity of the B-Team. Splitting them up from Team Arrow could have been a fine idea, but not in the middle of the city being held hostage, and not stemming from such an idiotic starting point ("How dare you spy on the three of us even though one of us LITERALLY did the EXACT thing you suspected one of us did").

 

2. The CW's continued inability to competently redeem its villains. Anatoly becomes decent because Diaz beat a tied-up Ollie? Hug you. Black Siren discovers a limit to her bloodthirstiness when it comes to burning rando civilians? Double hug you.

 

3. The lameness of Diaz. The matter-of-factness with which he bought off and/or controlled everyone in the city. Black Siren's unreasonable and unbelievable fear of him. The fact that he should have been murdered 6 times over in the Quadrant episode and just wasn't because plot. The fact that nobody takes any precautions against him knowing their secret identities. The fact that, during his one confrontation with Ollie before the finale, he had to pull a weapon so he didn't lose a hand-to-hand fight.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 09:04 PM

Diaz is another fine example of what we are TOLD about the character being completely unrelated to what we are shown.

We're told that he's been pulling the strings behind Cayden James' operation for the first half of the season, but most of his appearances up to that point have been practically cameos, with no hint of any importance. We're told that he's the most fearsome foe that Ollie's ever faced, but he's really this big manbaby that hides behind other people.

And worst of all: (SPOILER for last night's finale)
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*ahem* Back to the original topic though, I am hopeful for the crossover. Invasion and Crisis On Earth-X were absolutely delightful. Even though TPTB struggle with plotting an entire season of television, they can clearly do well with making a 4-hour miniseries that can get the most out of it's entire cast.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 11:29 PM

So have they ever established whether Gotham is at all connected to the Arrowverse... perhaps set in the past (based on the old cellphones, tube TVs, etc.) of either Flash or Supergirl's Earth, or maybe just on one of the other alternate Earths... maybe the one recently mentioned on Flash that's "still on VHS".


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:10 AM

RagMan was great but it's probably best that he's left on the side of the show people actually liked.

 

New Team Arrow were a mess this year. Diaz was only slightly better than Cayden James which was just really really sad. There was genuinely a point where it seemed Felicity's hacker girl friend was taking out Cayden so she could become Arrow's first genuine female villain but like, that didn't happen. I have no idea why people expected that though, because it would have been a twist that made sense and was born from what had happened before.

 

Fake Laurel (Yanny?) was so many different people in every episode I still have no idea who she is. I did like her black wig.

 

I think what bothered me the most this season was how killing either Diaz and Cayden at any point after they'd been introduced was extremely easy. Maybe Cayden had the secret whatever codes and then that bomb that lost to darned William* of all people, but Diaz was literally the head of a criminal organization and the only reason people did what he wanted was because he was alive to blackmail them.

 

*Please, please get rid of William.

 

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 10:01 AM

So have they ever established whether Gotham is at all connected to the Arrowverse... perhaps set in the past (based on the old cellphones, tube TVs, etc.) of either Flash or Supergirl's Earth, or maybe just on one of the other alternate Earths... maybe the one recently mentioned on Flash that's "still on VHS".

It's never been connected to the Arrowverse.

 

Ra's al Ghul and his organization are all entirely different in that show, even.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.



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