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@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2019 - 07:38 AM)

There actually are a good number of clinics around here: but the walk ins require an appointment (what?) and are only done once a week. IF you can get an appointment, you see a doctor usually within 40 minutes, but good luck getting the appointment.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

Depending on the day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

We have family doctors (called "house doctors") with regular office hours where you may need an hour or two of waiting time.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 12:50 AM)

Two weeks? That seems a little long; are there not a lot of walk-in clinics around you?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 07:01 PM)

Does germany make it quick and easy to see a doctor too? Cause an emergency doctor visit can take two weeks out here, and an emergency ROOM visit can take 18-24 hours.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:43 PM)

(Good thing is, under German law, if you call in sick during your vacation and see a doctor immediately, you get to keep your vacation days.)

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:42 PM)

Too bad. My plans wee to do two more overtime hours before having my last day of vacation for the year on Friday. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:41 PM)

So I'm currently on medical leave for a particularly stupid reason: Burned my back with a hot-water bag while sleeping last night. Though the doctor said I'm hardly the first person to have this happen to them.

@  Patch : (13 November 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Just a particularly odious example of the 90s era of depicting transgender women as either the subject of crude humor, or "Jerry Springer" material.

@  Ashley : (13 November 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I think Ace Ventura legit contributed to me spending years in self denial. I will never be ok with Jim Carrey.

@  Benbot : (13 November 2019 - 01:22 PM)

I thought he since changed his tune.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 November 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Jim Carry Paladin?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 November 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Don't doubt what he can do. Sonic the Hedgehog!

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 11:51 AM)

not giving a dime to a transphobic antivaxxer.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 11:25 AM)

It'll be a terrible movie if jim carrey phones it in. Otherwise it should be decent.

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 10:45 AM)

sonics' still gonna be a terrible movie but at least they whined loud enough to make him look passable for a 2-minute trailer. "yay."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:37 AM)

But of course to annoying people there's no such thing as different decisions made for different reasons, there is only "I like it so it's right" and "I don't like it so it's wrong."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Even if we pretend it's objective truth that they were both bad, then they were bad in very different ways.

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Sonic's previous movie design looked genuinely bad. The Transformers '07 designs just looked insufficiently like what certain loud and obnoxious parts of the fandom think Transformers are required to always look like.

@  Otaku : (13 November 2019 - 08:50 AM)

Um... Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.


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#1 SHIELD Agent 47

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:00 PM

Wow, first live-action appearance of Batwoman ever! I hope it's Kate Kane.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 12:24 AM

The sixth season of Arrow had two consecutive competitors for the worst villain of the show ever (as in, genuinely worse than Damien Darhk) along with a plot that boiled down to "Oliver is wrong because the writers said so so let's all start making the worst decisions possible". The funniest thing was that Oliver was actually last to start screwing up.

 

So Season 5 was actually better.

 

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Anyways we officially have Superman on Earth 52, so this'll make Batman an even more glaring omission.

 

I like the crossovers well enough even if they do mean having to watch an episode of The Flash, so this is good news.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 03:53 AM

please just don't make her somehow be Alex (supergirl's sister) ... 

 

it's perfectly fine with me DC if there is more than one Redhead ;) 



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:37 AM

Hasn't Supergirl intimated that her cousin has run into Batman before?


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:08 AM

Bruce Wayne was name dropped in Arrow.



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:48 AM

As was Oracle (back when they started calling Felicity "Overwatch"). Even before that, Harley Quinn had showed up as a cameo (which kinda requires that A. Joker exists and B. Joker has been caught at least once).

And over on her Earth, Supergirl mentioned people wearing masks in Gotham.

Though I still hope that they someday introduce Stephanie Brown in Supergirl. Using this exact scene.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:57 AM

LOL "There was a retcon don't worry about it"



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 10:35 AM

Anyways we officially have Superman on Earth 52,

Which Earth is that?


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 12:29 PM

I'm hoping Batwoman is based in Earth-38, just so we can get regular World's Finest teamups without having to go through the process of breaching over each time.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 02:20 PM

 

Anyways we officially have Superman on Earth 52,

Which Earth is that?

 

Supergirl's Earth



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 02:44 PM

 

 

Anyways we officially have Superman on Earth 52,

Which Earth is that?

 

Supergirl's Earth

 

No it isn't. Supergirl's is Earth-38.


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No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 02:52 PM

Well than at least 2 earth's have a superman in that case



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 03:54 PM

This season of Arrow was cringe-inducingly bad. I haven't seen either Flash or Supergirl since they came back from their last hiatus. And Legends of Tomorrow has always sucked.

 

So, sure, Batwoman, why not. Anything to spark the modicum of interest I have left in this whole universe.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:09 PM

Legends of Tomorrow is fantastic and currently the only reliable corner of the Arrowverse. After a disastrous first season, they pretty much immediately corrected all their issues with the second, and haven't stopped.

I think the main thing that's helped them was leaning into the "team of screwups" angle. Seeing well-meaning and likable people who are pretty much guaranteed to get things wrong, but will do their best to make it right, that makes you want to root for them. On the other hand, we are constantly being told that Barry Allen is a great human being while he constantly does things that are stupid and inconsiderate.

Legends also has a great sense of humor about the Arrowverse. They can't go full-Deadpool, but there's been some great jokes in there for people who've stuck around this long.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 07:53 PM

I think what made this season of Arrow (and Flash) so cringe worthy at times, is that they're too long. Plot points get stretched out, when really they should be worked out in 2 - 4 episodes.  In Arrow it was the whole B-Team being stupid for most of the season, then Diglit having a turn and finally Oliver being made dumb in the last few episodes before the finale. Didn't help the the main big bad is just a thug, who somehow is more of a threat then everything they faced before. Feels like he should've been a season two baddy, not season 6.

 

On Flash it wasn't AS bad, but still they could've done better. I mean, Barry coming out of the Speedforce, was supposed to have gained so much knowlage and be so much better then he was before. It's a bit of a let down that they had him forget everything and underplaying the fact he's ust as smart as everyone else in team Flash.

 

As for Batwoman showing up next season. I like it. With Titans dropping on DC Universe before hand, building up some of the Bat Family, they could use Batwoman to really bring Gotham (the city not the show) into the Arrowverse. Build it up over a season or two and then when Arrow has it's last season, replace it with a Gothem based series.



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:34 PM

I think what made this season of Arrow (and Flash) so cringe worthy at times, is that they're too long. Plot points get stretched out, when really they should be worked out in 2 - 4 episodes.  In Arrow it was the whole B-Team being stupid for most of the season, then Diglit having a turn and finally Oliver being made dumb in the last few episodes before the finale. Didn't help the the main big bad is just a thug, who somehow is more of a threat then everything they faced before. Feels like he should've been a season two baddy, not season 6.

 

The main things I just couldn't get over:

 

1. The stupidity of the B-Team. Splitting them up from Team Arrow could have been a fine idea, but not in the middle of the city being held hostage, and not stemming from such an idiotic starting point ("How dare you spy on the three of us even though one of us LITERALLY did the EXACT thing you suspected one of us did").

 

2. The CW's continued inability to competently redeem its villains. Anatoly becomes decent because Diaz beat a tied-up Ollie? Hug you. Black Siren discovers a limit to her bloodthirstiness when it comes to burning rando civilians? Double hug you.

 

3. The lameness of Diaz. The matter-of-factness with which he bought off and/or controlled everyone in the city. Black Siren's unreasonable and unbelievable fear of him. The fact that he should have been murdered 6 times over in the Quadrant episode and just wasn't because plot. The fact that nobody takes any precautions against him knowing their secret identities. The fact that, during his one confrontation with Ollie before the finale, he had to pull a weapon so he didn't lose a hand-to-hand fight.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 09:04 PM

Diaz is another fine example of what we are TOLD about the character being completely unrelated to what we are shown.

We're told that he's been pulling the strings behind Cayden James' operation for the first half of the season, but most of his appearances up to that point have been practically cameos, with no hint of any importance. We're told that he's the most fearsome foe that Ollie's ever faced, but he's really this big manbaby that hides behind other people.

And worst of all: (SPOILER for last night's finale)
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*ahem* Back to the original topic though, I am hopeful for the crossover. Invasion and Crisis On Earth-X were absolutely delightful. Even though TPTB struggle with plotting an entire season of television, they can clearly do well with making a 4-hour miniseries that can get the most out of it's entire cast.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 11:29 PM

So have they ever established whether Gotham is at all connected to the Arrowverse... perhaps set in the past (based on the old cellphones, tube TVs, etc.) of either Flash or Supergirl's Earth, or maybe just on one of the other alternate Earths... maybe the one recently mentioned on Flash that's "still on VHS".


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:10 AM

RagMan was great but it's probably best that he's left on the side of the show people actually liked.

 

New Team Arrow were a mess this year. Diaz was only slightly better than Cayden James which was just really really sad. There was genuinely a point where it seemed Felicity's hacker girl friend was taking out Cayden so she could become Arrow's first genuine female villain but like, that didn't happen. I have no idea why people expected that though, because it would have been a twist that made sense and was born from what had happened before.

 

Fake Laurel (Yanny?) was so many different people in every episode I still have no idea who she is. I did like her black wig.

 

I think what bothered me the most this season was how killing either Diaz and Cayden at any point after they'd been introduced was extremely easy. Maybe Cayden had the secret whatever codes and then that bomb that lost to darned William* of all people, but Diaz was literally the head of a criminal organization and the only reason people did what he wanted was because he was alive to blackmail them.

 

*Please, please get rid of William.

 

As for Legends; everybody should watch Legends, Beebo is love.


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 10:01 AM

So have they ever established whether Gotham is at all connected to the Arrowverse... perhaps set in the past (based on the old cellphones, tube TVs, etc.) of either Flash or Supergirl's Earth, or maybe just on one of the other alternate Earths... maybe the one recently mentioned on Flash that's "still on VHS".

It's never been connected to the Arrowverse.

 

Ra's al Ghul and his organization are all entirely different in that show, even.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.



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