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@  TM2-Megatron : (04 December 2019 - 10:22 PM)

Still not the weirdest thing a Nic Cage character has done in a film

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 04:00 PM)

Couldn't be worse than him pissing fire as Ghost Rider.

@  Rycochet : (04 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

The Tim Burton Superman Movie is the DC movie we deserve. It would have Nic Cage in a technosuit punching polarbears.

@  Paladin : (04 December 2019 - 02:59 PM)

Wonder Woman was great. Shazam was amazing. Aquaman... exists.

@  RichardT1977 : (04 December 2019 - 01:54 PM)

TBF, Aquaman and Shazam! were pretty good.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 01:00 PM)

Not a difficult feat.

@  Benbot : (04 December 2019 - 11:50 AM)

You just put more effort into telling a compelling story than all of WB's execs.

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:41 AM)

Cue the flashback to Jonathan, reassuring a terrified child: "What you are is never as important as who you are." Cue Superman's response to Brainiac: "I already know who I am."*John Williams fanfare plays*

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

I don't think we even really need to see Krypton. I'd start with Clark growing up in Kansas, thinking he's normal, and follow him through the development of his powers. There've been enough alternate takes on Krypton that it could actually work as a mystery; is this the pre-Crisis utopia, the sterile science world, or the relic of a fallen empire? Brainiac was there, and he tempts Clark with the knowledge of what he really is.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:12 AM)

First, a Krypton film, ending with baby Kal-El being found on Earth.  Then Supe's early career film, establishing his values... and if Jonothan Kent needs to die, it happens because of something like a heart attack while Clark is savnig folks on the other side of the world.  After we know Clark minimizes property damage and never kills, have Zod & Company show up and force him to make tough choices.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Man of Steel seems like someone came up with a Superman trilogy and then the execs said "We've got to catch up to Marvel, make it one film!".  I don't mean that based on the film's actual pacing, but because various story beats make more sense to me if they weren't all squished together.

@  Cybersnark : (03 December 2019 - 07:44 PM)

I've been wanting to write a Superman movie trilogy for years; "Man of Steel" (featuring a Terminator-like Brainiac) was going to be first, with "Last Son of Krypton" (featuring the Eradicator) as the sequel and "Man of Tomorrow" (in which Luthor makes his face-heel turn) as the conclusion. Thanks to Snyder I have to re-arrange my titles.

@  Nevermore : (03 December 2019 - 06:15 PM)

I still wish "Man of Steel" had instead been an adaptation of both the John Byrne miniseries of the same name and the Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale miniseries "Superman For All Seasons".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (03 December 2019 - 04:42 PM)

A take I just read: Man of Steel is shot with such a lack of lighting that it is easier to discern what is going on in a porn film.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 December 2019 - 12:20 PM)

Making Soylant is harder then it looks, it's not like the movies, you have to keep whacking and hacking at the ingredient, it'll scream and fight, maybe bite but eventually it will go down.

@  Paladin : (03 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

varies from person to person.

@  Benbot : (03 December 2019 - 11:34 AM)

It's an acquired taste

@  CORVUS : (03 December 2019 - 11:17 AM)

Soylent? Its pretty awful.

@  unluckiness : (03 December 2019 - 02:49 AM)

Depends on your denomination of Christianity

@  Patch : (02 December 2019 - 05:52 PM)

@Benbot Do they have a soy-free version? Like maybe just "Lent?"

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 02:03 PM)

Just occurred to me 'Autobot' Megatron happened in Target 2006.

@  Benbot : (02 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

have you tried Soylent? It's pretty good! https://soylent.com/

@  Paladin : (02 December 2019 - 10:01 AM)

i prefer free-range human usually. pain in the ass to hunt though...

@  TheMightyMol... : (02 December 2019 - 09:42 AM)

If your human is all bones, you may have purchased a skeleton by accident. Contact your grocer to inquire about exhange policies.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 09:31 AM)

Vegans are categorised as human therefore just fall under Soylant, they are usually all bones.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:47 PM)

Cause... that latter one is technically all burgers anyway.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:46 PM)

So... a burger made without meat, or a burger made with the meat taken from a vegan?

@  Maximus Ambus : (01 December 2019 - 04:22 PM)

I had a vegan burger last week, this week I'll give a vegan steak a shot.

@  wonko the sane? : (30 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

a proper paradox would have broken the board. Nice try though.

@  Maximus Ambus : (30 November 2019 - 01:47 AM)

This shout is empty.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 November 2019 - 12:01 AM)

I've got the admit. tubi tv is great. It's got a lot of stuff.. Including Super Sentai.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There is frankly no better place to (legally) find schlock on the internet for free than Tubi TV

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:33 PM)

It's got all the graphic violence and gratuitous nudity a late 80s OVA should have.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

Available for free with ads on Tubi TV.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

It's "Goku: Midnight Eye". Originally produced in the late 80s, it apparently wasn't dubbed until the late 90s given Steve Blum was the lead.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 06:38 PM)

The description makes it sound like some high grade, mid 80's shlock. Which, frankly, is my groove.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

Was wondering how long it would take someone to ask.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 09:58 AM)

okay, it's been like two days so far: what anime is this, cause I'm dying to know.

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 November 2019 - 09:23 PM)

You know you're in for a good time when an old anime starts with a crime lord uses roller skates in his cybernetic legs to skate down the side of the building, launches to a dock and into a getaway boat.

@  Pinkcolliebot : (26 November 2019 - 03:55 PM)

Hey Everyone I'm Making The TF Roll Out Short "Gotta Go Fast!"

@  Benbot : (26 November 2019 - 12:52 PM)

That's what I was hoping for. But here I am, at work the following day.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

You say "die in bed" and I'm thinking "why is that a problem?".

@  fourteenwings : (26 November 2019 - 07:06 AM)

If you don't get out of bed ever your muscles will lock in super-uncomfortable ways and you may get blood clots

@  MEDdMI : (25 November 2019 - 08:53 PM)

You did nothing, and so rocks fall down and you die.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 November 2019 - 08:35 PM)

But that's not you doing something, that's something being done to you.

@  MEDdMI : (25 November 2019 - 08:28 PM)

Unless a meteor crashes down on your bed while you're in it.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 November 2019 - 07:08 PM)

I've been trying for the last few hours to find an argument to counter this... and I can't do it.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 November 2019 - 03:32 PM)

The most dangerous thing you can do is get out of bed in the morning. Everything else that happens is a consequence of that one terrible, terrible decision.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 November 2019 - 03:28 PM)

Driving, by itself, is dangerous. Anything done to compromise the concentration of the pilot just makes things worse.

@  Benbot : (25 November 2019 - 12:46 PM)

Actually, I think you could make a reasonable argument for saying driving with glasses is dangerous. That is, more dangerous than driving with contacts or perfect vision. You have poor peripheral vision with glasses.


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#21 Spark

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 01:34 PM

I still unapologetically enjoy G2 for the ridiculous '90s action pulp it was at the time.  I just wish they'd been able to pull in Chris Batista from GI Joe instead of Manny Galan, since they were both super new at the time and probably had similar rates.

 

I also really enjoy the cover of the G1 first issue and how nuts it looks.


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Posted 09 May 2018 - 01:37 PM

my very first comic book ever was #2

 

well, maybe. my mom bought me a sgt rock comic when i was in the hospital when i had my tonsils out, but i dont remember if that was before or after i got the tf comic. tf #2 is certainly the comic ive had the longest


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Posted 09 May 2018 - 01:43 PM

my very first comic book ever was #2

I can't remember what my very first comic book was, but it was probably also a big pile of #2.

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 07:11 PM

Marvel #4 was getting passed around at a slumber party in 5th grade, and the cliffhanger was what first hooked me on Transformers. Holy crap, the bad guys WON! NO WAY!!

 

From there it was a fast spiral into the toys, comics and cartoon. 

 

#8 was the first issue I got before any of my friends -- we were on vacation -- and I read it half to death. The art was especially striking; that was the issue that made me want Shockwave's toy more than life itself. 

 

I was a steady reader into the mid-40s... after that I'd check the newsstands occasionally to see what they were up to. 

Cover of #53: Whoa, that lady chopped off Perceptor's head!

#62: Cool, they finally started drawing the robots the right way!

#75: man, that's some pretty art

#80: WHAT IT'S ENDING? CRAP I NEED TO BUY THIS AND LIKE ALL THE OTHER ONES

 

G2 #1: OMG THEY STILL REMEMBER TRANSFORMERS!

G2 #12: damn. that's the last Transformers story I'll ever read. Bummer.


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Why will we solve after Robert grasps the abysmal winter's ulcer? He may change rural tailors, do you join them? The films, tapes, and spoons are all good and fresh.

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 02:29 AM

Question: which Generation 1 characters notably owe their enduring popularity as a result of a memorable appearance in Marvel? Can such a list be pared down given how many fans of Marvel continuity there are?
 

 

(This was before I was born, so I lack the requisite firsthand perspective.)


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 03:52 AM

Nightbeat. Thunderwing, if he's actually popular these days. Mister Johnson.

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 05:59 AM

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 07:08 AM

Nightbeat, Thunderwing and Bludgeon definitely.

Grimlock is a Trex robot so he would have been popular regardless but the personality from the Marvel Comic was certainly a favorite in the fandom for a very long time.

Fortress Maximus and Scorponok are both only actual characters vs locations/Kaiju because of the Marvel Comic staring roles they have. Ratbat is more than an animal, an actual Decepticon Leader because of the book. Prowl became the Prick he has memorably been since entirely because of what Furman did with him towards the end of the US book and then in G2. Ratchet as a reluctant hero staring character is certainly from there.

On a lesser note, I would say G1 Fixit is only memorable for his super brief moment there. Likewise it's the only place Skullgrin got a moment to shine and he's had multiple toys. Krok had a bit of a spotlight as Bludgeon's buddy. And everyone remember Octopunch largely for shooting God in the face.


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 07:54 AM

Impactor.

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 09:59 AM

On a lesser note, I would say G1 Fixit is only memorable for his super brief moment there.

Is he, though? I never heard anyone mention him at all outside the context of Micromaster enthusiasm until he showed up in the Barber book.

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 10:12 AM

Character-wise, Marvel G1 gave us:

  • The best version of Ratchet ever
  • One of the best versions of Shockwave ever
  • A Unicron with a backstory and motivation that was deeper than what the cartoon had depicted
  • One of the most hardcore depictions of Galvatron ever (specifically the Marvel UK Galvatron, not Galvatron II)
  • The first Soundwave to ever make me even give a darn about him (in the UK comics, especially)
  • An awesome version of Blaster (the cartoon guy was fun, but Marvel Blaster was awesome)
  • A Grimlock who was both different from his cartoon counterpart and (when not being a bombastic bully) had a degree of intrigue and depth to his character (this was before RID 2015 came along and gave us its FUN Grimlock)
  • Awesome Decepticon leaders who weren't Megatron/Galvatron: the aforementioned Shockwave, plus Ratbat, Scorponok, Thunderwing, and Bludgeon
  • Memorable comic-originals such as Lord Straxus, Impactor, Emirate Xaaron, Death's Head (not a TF, but still), Scrounge, Primus, etc.

Edited by Sabrblade, 13 February 2019 - 10:13 AM.

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 12:17 PM

Ratbat, certainly.


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 12:52 PM

Question: which Generation 1 characters notably owe their enduring popularity as a result of a memorable appearance in Marvel? Can such a list be pared down given how many fans of Marvel continuity there are?
 

 

(This was before I was born, so I lack the requisite firsthand perspective.)

 

Hard to improve upon ZacWilliam's write-up (although with one caveat. While he's certainly correct about Prowl, I really hate that characterization. Folks respond to me that he didn't HAVE much characterization prior to that, and I'm not too interested in arguing. But I really hate that characterization).

But for wholly-unbiased (ha!) reasons, I'll add G.B. Blackrock. 



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Posted 13 February 2019 - 05:15 PM

The TF comics matured along with the audience. Starting with "We take turns saying names and powers" and ending with elder gods.
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 05:16 PM

Skullgrin! 


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 05:36 PM

I'm not sure about enduring, but Carnivac was (BW)Dinobot before Dinobot. I know I only picked one up(and a Catilla) because of his Marvel UK treatment.

 

The Wreckers also originated from Marvel G1



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Posted 13 February 2019 - 07:14 PM

Something I recall about the marvel G1 comics, they showed there was Autobots who were tired of the endless war and left Cybertron, granted it was to promote the Headmasters, it was something that never appeared in the Cartoon. Thou a scene from the UK G1 comics I recall more than any other was Cylonus having his head ripped off by Megatron after his target master partner was crushed to death, it was my first TF comic I ever had, sadly, I no longer have that comic, but its in one of the trade paper backs I got of the UK G1 comics in colour!


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 10:08 PM

My introduction to TF comics wasn't until 1990 or so when I had moved and one of the new kids I met kept telling me how there was a story in which Shockwave was Megatron's boss. I thought he was insane until he showed me an early comic issue at his house one day. I thought it was so bizarre.

Then I nabbed G2 #1 when it came out, and I was confused as hell even if the whole thing looked really cool.

Honestly, my favorite issue as a kid was the issue of G.I.Joe where Cobra gives Megatron his tank body. I remember reading that and not knowing that the line about "a whole ARK of Cybertronian technology" was referring to the Autobots' ship.

And it had Ninja Force Zartan, so that was a plus.

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 11:15 PM

Something I recall about the marvel G1 comics, they showed there was Autobots who were tired of the endless war and left Cybertron, granted it was to promote the Headmasters, it was something that never appeared in the Cartoon. 

 

Uh, yes there was. The cartoon absolutely did have some Autobots leave Cybettron to escape the war. That was shown in "Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2" and was the entire basis for the inhabitants of Paradron in "Fight or Flee".

 

The cartoon's examples were even done first, before the Marvel comics did their version in the Headmasters mini-series that you just described.


Edited by Sabrblade, 14 February 2019 - 09:21 AM.

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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 02:35 AM

Marvel UK was a different experience.

We got these poorly drawn stories featuring the main toy characters but with dumb creative decisions like Ratbat and Grimlock leading the factions against often better drawn more serious character driven stories mostly featuring the season 3 characters and obscure toys.


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