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@  Sean Whitmore : (15 January 2019 - 08:47 PM)

The fact that Adventure Time was on the air for 8 years and at no point did Nintendo hand the creators a large sack of money and say, "Please make a Mario thing for us" will forever anger me.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 07:03 PM)

There was so much awesome put into design and conception of the super mario bros. movie, and it didn't even need the branding: but it wouldn't have made it to the screen without the branding.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:56 PM)

Many aspects of it have stuck in my memory, though. The boots, the devolution ray, the aesthetic of the dinosaur city

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

I had no idea there was another Mario Bros. movie coming out, though. Doubt it'll top the first one, it was just so bizarre

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

They already act a bit like minions; they just aren't stupid

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 05:35 PM)

The trouble is: I honestly can't decide if making them minions would be better or worse than the continuously shrill voices they've used for the last 20 years.

@  Paladin : (15 January 2019 - 05:27 PM)

hope everyone's ready for Toads to look, act & sound like the Minions forever...

@  Lancer : (15 January 2019 - 04:54 PM)

I mean, considering Illumination is making the new Mario movie, Super Mario Bros. 1993 won't be the worst Mario movie anymore

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 04:36 PM)

"Sir, your pizza's here." "Not now!"

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 04:28 PM)

Actually, yeah. I think I need to watch it again. Great movie.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 03:44 PM)

It's a fun movie with amazing sets. As long as you don't try to connect it to anything else Mario, it's fine.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 03:38 PM)

Damn, I haven't thought about the Super Mario Bros. feature film in forever. Need to watch it again, soon; I can only imagine it gets better with time.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Re:Zero is a fantastic series.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 03:10 PM)

Yeah it's not a bad concept, it's just that lately the term is associated with "I, a Loser Everyman, Woke Up In a Generic Fantasy Setting Where I'm Super Special So Now Girls Orbit Me"

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 12:59 PM)

So too is the old Super Mario Bros movie

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 12:28 PM)

I went and looked up the term "isekai"... that's not actually as bad as I thought it was going to be.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 12:19 PM)

I'm not sure, but the cartoon segments of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Wait. A. Minute. Is Blaster Master an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (15 January 2019 - 08:49 AM)

*Dragon Slave*

@  Xellos : (15 January 2019 - 06:22 AM)

I used to use a pic like that as my avatar for years, but that... is a secret.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 02:07 AM)

Is Flatland an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (14 January 2019 - 11:16 PM)

@Xellos Every time I see you post, I picture Xellos' infuriating smug grin and finger waggling with the "sore wa hi*mi*tsu*desu <3"

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 09:50 PM)

The Last Starfighter is also one of those

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

Astronaut gets shot through a wornhole and ends up on a living starship full of escaped alien prisoners.

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

I realized a few months ago that Farscape is a sci-fi-based Isekai.

@  Sabrblade : (14 January 2019 - 09:03 PM)

The Thor movies and Enchanted, as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 January 2019 - 08:45 PM)

@xellos We get to many of those in Hollywood movies.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 08:13 PM)

Re:Creators!

@  Xellos : (14 January 2019 - 07:47 PM)

There is also Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero, where people regularly get summoned to a fantasy world, then eventually sent back with their accumulated powers (and the main character smuggles the demon lord's daugher by his request, which is a no-no)

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 07:23 PM)

We need more inverse isekais, like The Devil is a Part-Timer

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 04:11 PM)

I feel like Tron is pushing it but I can't actually come up with an argument to that effect

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

To Arazyr- I don't see why it wouldn't be.

@  Xellos : (14 January 2019 - 02:11 PM)

Just like how TRON and Captain N are early examples of "getting transported into a video game"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (14 January 2019 - 02:07 PM)

That would explain why it's so common for isekai settings to be blatantly RPG-inspired.

@  Arazyr : (14 January 2019 - 01:42 PM)

Would the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon count as isekai? 8^)

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 12:06 PM)

I am in the exceedingly unpleasant position of knowing what you're talking about

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 12:05 PM)

So I'll just say I can consume the series without endorsing the real-life lie that false rape accusations are common and successful.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 12:04 PM)

I would go on to talk about that, but alas, that would spoil significant future story details about the accuser.

@  B-Fox : (14 January 2019 - 12:03 PM)

Shield Hero dared to have a male character falsely accused of rape, right?

@  B-Fox : (14 January 2019 - 12:02 PM)

At least now people will stop shitting on slice-of-life shows....

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 12:01 PM)

listen just because it has shield in its name does not mean you need to ally with it

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 12:01 PM)

oh good lord

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 12:00 PM)

In fact, the Shield Hero series does not portray slavery as a good thing nor keep the initial slave characters down for the count.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 12:00 PM)

If you're referring to The Rising of the Shield Hero, the backlash from some Western fans is misaimed, IMO.

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 11:59 AM)

I wish I was more surprised that "slavery apologetics" is a thing. Still disgusted.

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 11:53 AM)

But surely we all know the best isekai is Captain N.

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 11:49 AM)

This morning I saw one of my friends express disbelief at having an opportunity to say "yet another slavery apologist isekai"

@  Lancer : (14 January 2019 - 11:21 AM)

Although recently they explicably acquire a harem by purchasing them as slaves, which makes it that much worse

@  Lancer : (14 January 2019 - 11:21 AM)

I think what people hate is the modern trend of isekai taking place in generic-ass fantasy settings with bland, oft-overpowered male protagonists that inexplicably acquire a harem.

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Does Kingdom Hearts count? On the one hand it's a serial world hopping adventure, on the other hand all the worlds are contained within the same overworld that the characters have always been in, just unaware of.


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Posted 29 December 2018 - 10:25 PM

I feel like I should make a viewer's guide, because there is a lot of good stuff in this that I hope future seasons/arcs will pick up on, but it's buried in a lot of what I can only call filler. It's like they weren't confident enough in the Star Wars brand to get kids watching, so they crammed in as much Focus Group Approved! content as they could and ended up burying the story. It's like fanservice by way of Disney Corporate.

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Posted 30 December 2018 - 04:41 AM

It's basically what they did with the Marvel shows. Produce generic kids shows to ride off brand awareness and sell more toys.

Say what you want about Lucas but Clone Wars was a quality production and Rebels luckily captured most of that.

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Posted 30 December 2018 - 11:35 AM

So, a viewing guide for the so-far released episodes of Season 1 (there are still three episodes left when the show comes back from hiatus on January 13).

Eps 1 & 2 "The Recruit" (Introduces the characters and setting.)

Ep 5 "The High Tower" (Lets us see more of the Aces, the First Order's machinations, and Kaz actually being a moderately-effective spy.)

Ep 7 "Signal from Sector Six" (Features Poe, and introduces Synara San.)

Ep 8 "Synara's Score" (We see the next step in the First Order's plans, and some potentially romantic sparks between Synara and Tam.)

Ep 10 "Secrets and Holograms" (A spotlight on Torra Doza, who should've been the series lead, as well as Kaz falling ass-backwards into a fairly big intelligence coup.)

Tentative:
Ep 11 "Station Theta Black" (This one doesn't really add anything we-the-viewers don't know, but it feels more like an actual TFA lead-in, with some actual stakes and lethal force. It also lets us see more of Phasma, Poe, and General Leia [with a new, non-horrible VA].)

Ep 9 (The Platform Classic) is also a good character piece for Yeager (and features what may or may not be a gay couple, depending on how you read it), but doesn't really add anything important to the ongoing plot. The rest can be summed up as "stuff happens, Kaz makes friends/enemies, Yeager has a dark past, Neeku is surprisingly perceptive."

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Posted 30 December 2018 - 12:25 PM

where are 3 and 4?

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Posted 30 December 2018 - 02:22 PM

Irrelevant, because nothing important happens.

The only thing that matters in ep3 is the revelation (to us-the-viewers, but not to Kaz) that the First Order are behind Kragan's pirate group, and ep4 only serves to establish why Jace hates Kaz (... he's met him), that Yeager had a wife and kid once, and that Yeager thinks Kaz is a good person but a terrible spy. Everything here is made obvious elsewhere (the bit about Yeager's family is literally treated as a new revelation a few episodes later), so there's really no point in watching them unless you really like the show.

Ep6 is a half-decent character piece for Neeku (and we get to see some new areas on Colossus), but the only really plot-relevant detail is that somebody named "Kylo Ren" is wiping out villages in the Unknown Regions.

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 06:45 PM

Having watched this, Kaz is really really annoying. He's like someone was challenged to make a Star Wars series with Jar Jar Binks in the lead role, but they obviously couldn't make him literally Jar Jar Binks, so they made a human with a shrill voice and the same gangling run and exaggerated body movements. He even does the whole "he means well but constantly screws up but still succeeds despite all that" thing that Jar Jar does.

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 09:51 AM

Having watched this, Kaz is really really annoying. He's like someone was challenged to make a Star Wars series with Jar Jar Binks in the lead role, but they obviously couldn't make him literally Jar Jar Binks, so they made a human with a shrill voice and the same gangling run and exaggerated body movements. He even does the whole "he means well but constantly screws up but still succeeds despite all that" thing that Jar Jar does.

Yeah, he is the worst part of this show. Everyone else, I enjoy, but he kind of brings down the series.


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