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@  wonko the sane? : (16 August 2018 - 06:36 AM)

That never goes away. I still have little panic attacks when I see water where it's not supposed to be. I've lived through enough leaking roofs, broken pipes and floods to know it could be a very bad sign.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 August 2018 - 09:20 PM)

Despite my parents explaining that to me when I was a kid, I still half-panic every time I see condensation dripping.

@  Shrug : (15 August 2018 - 08:23 PM)

Yup. If the water happens to be on the left or right of the vehicle, make sure to remember that. That way it's real easy to tell if it's something else dripping.

@  Nevermore : (15 August 2018 - 05:15 PM)

So I checked online and it appears... it's totally normal, that's apparently condensed water from the air conditioning.

@  Nevermore : (15 August 2018 - 05:14 PM)

Phew!" For a moment I thought I was in real trouble because when I arrived at home and drove my car into the garage, there was a trail of large wet spots.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 August 2018 - 08:01 AM)

The showerhead exploded off the pipe this morning. So yeah... think it's going to be a "great" day.

@  Donocropolis : (13 August 2018 - 09:44 PM)

Luckily, it was "Wheel Horse Lawnmower"

@  Donocropolis : (13 August 2018 - 09:44 PM)

I knew that my father was getting old when he finally posted a facebook status that was clearly a search term.

@  The Wadapan : (12 August 2018 - 12:18 PM)

could've been worse then :p

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (12 August 2018 - 12:03 PM)

So when he tried to pry into his daughter's love life, he ended up posting numerous search terms relating to "hot boy".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (12 August 2018 - 12:02 PM)

I once saw this comedy episode wherein a dad mistakenly thought the status bar on Facebook was the search bar.

@  The Wadapan : (12 August 2018 - 11:41 AM)

is cool squawkbox =/= search box

@  The Wadapan : (12 August 2018 - 11:41 AM)

iron man note to self

@  Echowarrior : (12 August 2018 - 05:02 AM)

Happy Birthday to Nevermore and Angelus!

@  Waspinator : (11 August 2018 - 04:45 PM)

I like how that game had all kinds of transformation attacks. Some of them may not have made much sense, but they looked cool.

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2018 - 11:33 AM)

Menasor kinda did that in the Devastation video game. He'd split into the Stunticons and run you over.

@  wonko the sane? : (11 August 2018 - 08:04 AM)

Megatron screams "decepticons attack", the constructicons form devastator, who then screams "Multi-vector assault mode" and breaks back into invdividual bots to attack seperately.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 August 2018 - 11:20 PM)

Imagine: an armada battle between Omega Supreme and Tidal Wave.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 August 2018 - 11:20 PM)

Some TF creator should apply it to multi-component Transformers.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 August 2018 - 11:19 PM)

"Multi-vector assault mode" is such a cool term from Star Trek: Voyager.

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 August 2018 - 04:24 PM)

Most things would be pretty cold after two hundred and seventy degrees.

@  RichardT1977 : (10 August 2018 - 02:39 PM)

(Because F = (9C/5) + 32)

@  RichardT1977 : (10 August 2018 - 02:38 PM)

Oh yeah, five times thirty is TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY! My bad...

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2018 - 01:15 PM)

Given the weather we've been having this summer, anything under 30 is a friggen god send.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2018 - 12:53 PM)

Surely "slightly under 30" doesn't pass for "cold" unless you live in the tropics.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2018 - 12:20 PM)

... or we're finally facing the end game of global warming, but no one will care by then.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2018 - 12:18 PM)

Generally speaking, if the number when referring to temperature is less than 50, you're probably not talking to an american.

@  Benbot : (10 August 2018 - 11:13 AM)

86 F

@  RichardT1977 : (10 August 2018 - 11:07 AM)

(30 C = 68 F)

@  RichardT1977 : (10 August 2018 - 11:06 AM)

And is that Fahrenheit or Celsius?

@  Benbot : (10 August 2018 - 09:13 AM)

What continent are you in?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2018 - 06:41 AM)

oh wow... even with humidity today it won't break 30. It's going to be so... COLD...

@  MEDdMI : (08 August 2018 - 06:58 AM)

@Msol Make sure he shares. My bro hardly ever let me play with his TFs. I even offered to let him play with my dolls/ponies, too.

@  MEDdMI : (08 August 2018 - 06:37 AM)

:p My brother was a bigger pain as a kid. As adults, I'm the bigger pain now.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 August 2018 - 06:31 AM)

Congrats man, and good luck. My personal experience is that little girls are pains in the ass clean through 30.

@  Msol : (07 August 2018 - 10:59 PM)

Yup yup. Now my 2.5yo will need to learn to share all his TFs...

@  MEDdMI : (07 August 2018 - 09:53 PM)

@Msol Really? Congratulations! :)

@  Msol : (07 August 2018 - 08:48 PM)

Ack! We're having a girl!

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 August 2018 - 06:16 PM)

It did include a Transmetal 2 hyena with a giant sawblade in his back.

@  unluckiness : (07 August 2018 - 08:56 AM)

but does it BURN BURN BURN TO THE GROUND?

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2018 - 08:01 AM)

Okay, I don't buy doubles and I would have gone after a dozen of those.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2018 - 10:32 PM)

I still think Beast Wars should have included a Transmetal Maximal hyena with a motorcycle-based semi-third mode, of Junkion descent, named Lafftrax

@  Pennpenn : (06 August 2018 - 03:24 AM)

Well if they did the same thing as Roadbattletrapslash (and if they didn't what's the point?) it'd be two new molds, but still.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (05 August 2018 - 01:08 PM)

I'm surprised that Hasbro wound up scheduling Frenzy for release in the Bumblebee movie line.

@  TheMightyMol... : (05 August 2018 - 12:50 PM)

Dunno. There's been recent Rewind toys, and Eject is just a quick repaint. Flywheels would mean a whole new mold.

@  Cyoti : (05 August 2018 - 08:24 AM)

Flywheels is probably in the same queue at Hasbro as Eject.

@  TheMightyMol... : (05 August 2018 - 03:22 AM)

Energon Redux.

@  Foffy : (05 August 2018 - 03:15 AM)

Grand Slamwich

@  Pennpenn : (04 August 2018 - 07:51 PM)

So we can get proper Flywheels and maybe Grand Slam? I mean, I'm sure if they did it as a full range we'd have an Optimus in there somewhere (with Roller pants? I dunno).

@  Pennpenn : (04 August 2018 - 07:48 PM)

I'd like to see them do more duocon type toys later on. Sort of like how they did Brainstorm as a Headmaster on his own before releasing an entire range of them.


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#1 Nevermore

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 03:13 PM

Hasbro usually has (at least) two sets of promotional stock images.

The first set (also known as "press images") used to depict hand-painted resin prototypes prior to mid-2014. From wave 4 of Combiner Wars onwards, those were replaced by CG renders. Photos of prototypes are still used for redecos and re-releases of toys designed prior to Combiner Wars (such as Titans Return Cosmos, Power of the Primes Skrapnel or the Platinum Edition Autobot Heroes set).

The second set usually depicts (near) final pre-production samples, typically including photos of the tos inside their packaging.


However, there apparently used to be no communication between whoever was responsible for each of the sets, so the figures would typically be depicted in very different poses, and the alternate modes would sometimes face opposite directions. Mistransformations could happen in both sets, but usually you wouldn't see the same mistransformation in both sets. The CG renders don't include actual mistransformations for the most part (although PotP Hun-Gurrr is missing his head in some renders depicted on his packaging).


Starting with Power of the Primes and Studio Series, though, I've noticed that the second set often tries to mimick the poses from the early CG renders, with various degrees of accuracy.

Here are some examples:
W1_Slash_render_robot_01a.jpg W1_Slash_robot_01b.jpg
W1_Windcharger_render_robot_01a.jpg W1_Windcharger_robot_01b.jpg
W1_Evolution_Optimus_Prime_render_robot_02a.jpg W1_Evolution_Optimus_Prime_robot_02d.jpg
W2_Elita-1_render_robot_01a.jpg W2_Elita-1_robot_01b.jpg
W2_Hun-Gurrr_render_robot_02a.jpg W2_Hun-Gurrr_robot_01a.jpg
Wave_1_Stinger_robot_render.jpg Wave_1_Stinger_robot.jpg

Edited by Nevermore, 23 April 2018 - 03:16 PM.

"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
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Posted 23 April 2018 - 03:15 PM

More:
Wave_2_Jazz_robot_render.jpg Wave_2_Jazz_robot.jpg
Wave_2_Lockdown_robot_render.jpg Wave_2_Lockdown_robot.jpg
Wave_2_Brawl_robot_render.jpg Wave_2_Brawl_robot.jpg
Wave_2_Megatron_robot_render.jpg Wave_2_Megatron_robot.jpg
Wave_1_Grimlock_robot_render.jpg Wave_1_Grimlock_robota.jpg

Edited by Nevermore, 23 April 2018 - 03:18 PM.

"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
- Volker Pispers, German comedian

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 09:26 PM

Ok.

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 09:48 PM

Weird but kinda interesting.


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 10:01 PM

Huh. I was wondering when Hasbro would start doing something like this.


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 10:16 PM

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 12:30 AM

I personally find this fascinating. Like, I don't know what it means, but everything is slightly weirder now. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 12:32 AM

I think it was weirder in the earlier days when the CG render people and the photography people seemed to be working entirely independently of each other.

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 12:41 AM

It never would have occurred to me that the poses were a consistent part of the toy's marketing representation. I'd assumed the CG people and the stock photo people were just told to make it look cool, and we got whatever they came up with. This makes sense in that the CG people undoubtedly have a clearer idea of what they're doing and the stock photo people demonstrably haven't, but the result is ... it's a little uncanny, honestly.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 08:04 AM

I miss the days when we got stock photos of horrifically mangled, mistransformed toys that had probably been transformed by some bored intern.
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Posted 24 April 2018 - 04:56 PM

A lot of this is also down to timing- The renders are almost always done before or while the toy is actually in physical production; the photography is done after actual painted resin model or toy production... which means after packaging layouts have been composed around the renders.  This used to not be a big deal, but now that the renders take up as much space as possible and have to juggle space for all languages on the same box/card, those layouts get locked down.  If a render is somehow botched at the last minute and there's stock photography available, that stock photography had better fit in that exact same space.


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 06:54 PM

This thread reminded me how weird I thought it was when Universe Stormcloud's stock photo was pretty much identical to Powerglide's in pose but wasn't just the first image photoshopped.  It wasn't helped that Stormcloud's deco was pretty much already paint program inverted Powerglide.



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 05:04 AM

This thread reminded me how weird I thought it was when Universe Stormcloud's stock photo was pretty much identical to Powerglide's in pose but wasn't just the first image photoshopped.  It wasn't helped that Stormcloud's deco was pretty much already paint program inverted Powerglide.


You mean this?
Universe-Ultra-Figures-0004_1203364898.jpg Storm2_1214475091.jpg
"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
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