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@  Telly : (24 May 2018 - 10:22 PM)

one thing im worried about if i get it is im gonna love it and then ill be lost in gundam models lol

@  Telly : (24 May 2018 - 10:21 PM)

ill have to keep an eye on that one

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 May 2018 - 01:18 PM)

https://www.gundamplanet.com/hg-ms-06-zaku-ii-type-c-c-5-gundam-the-origin-ver.html

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 May 2018 - 01:18 PM)

Bandai just released a new Zaku in the Origin line, looks like the new definitive at the HG price point

@  Liege : (24 May 2018 - 12:42 PM)

@Telly try the HG rather than the RG, there are a ton of great Zaku variants that are doable for beginners

@  RichardT1977 : (24 May 2018 - 11:02 AM)

If there is an economic system, somebody will find a way to abuse it for personal gain.

@  Otaku : (23 May 2018 - 01:18 PM)

@unluckiness I believe you are correct, but I didn't feel like looking it up so I didn't want to mention it. If that is the case, it isn't "capitalism" anyway. Maybe crapitalism (crony capitalism).

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:46 AM)

Like richard said, it's not inherently less healthy than table sugar. It's unhealthy in how it's in everything, leading to increased calorie intake that we don't even realize.

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:43 AM)

Also you try organizing a boycott of Coca frigging cola and see how far you get. Not to mention all the other processed foods that also make use of it that aren't as notorious for it

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:42 AM)

I believe the US government subsidizes corn farmers to such a degree that corn is stupidly cheap, making corporations lean towards it far more

@  Otaku : (23 May 2018 - 08:41 AM)

@SHIELD Agent 47 If HFCS was "caused" by capitalism, all it takes to solve it is people NOT buying it. As is, products that use actual sugar and countless alternative sweeteners are available. At least for big brands like Coca-Cola. ;)

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:40 AM)

And if doing so means that eventually is longer and less filled with complications, well, that junk food had better be the best junk ever

@  Otaku : (23 May 2018 - 08:39 AM)

@Paladin Quality of life. So many things I enjoyed as a kid have caused (or at least aggravated) health issues later in life. By later, I mean it started in my mid-20's. XP

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:39 AM)

THere's a difference between having some and constantly stuffing your face with calories.

@  Paladin : (23 May 2018 - 08:33 AM)

we all die eventually. why not enjoy the stuff that tastes good in the time we have?

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:26 AM)

HFCS is never good for you any way. It's nothing but monosaccharides basically

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 May 2018 - 11:32 PM)

*sigh* Wouldn't be that much of a problem if not for Western capitalism.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 May 2018 - 05:45 PM)

The only thing that makes HFCS more unhealthy than sugar is its lower cost.

@  Telly : (22 May 2018 - 03:20 PM)

looking at a video review and seeing all the tiny parts makes me think twice about it anyway

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 May 2018 - 03:04 PM)

You should probably ask in the Gundam thread.

@  Telly : (22 May 2018 - 02:52 PM)

is this any good? i dont know about gundam models but want a good zaku https://www.amazon.c...0C7D2WQ09A9A9MZ

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 May 2018 - 12:33 PM)

Dammit, and I was just about to hook up this Coke IV directly to my bloodstream, too. Killjoy :p

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 May 2018 - 12:28 PM)

Recommendation: if you're going to fill your body up with junk food, try real sugar instead of HFCS.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 May 2018 - 12:10 PM)

Not so much that it's worth the extra money to buy it in glass bottles all the time (I think the most you can get is a 6-pack of Coke in glass bottles around here, and it's signifcantly more expensive than 6 plastic), but every once in a while it's nice to drink from an old-fashioned bottle

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 May 2018 - 12:08 PM)

Personally, I find they also tend to taste better out of a glass bottle compared to the plastic ones used most of the time

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2018 - 11:27 AM)

None that I know of, but it's a neat fact. Sodas in glass bottles stay carbonated.

@  Paladin : (22 May 2018 - 11:00 AM)

what vending machines still use glass???

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2018 - 10:54 AM)

And it won't lose carbonation if it's a properly sealed glass bottle.

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 May 2018 - 10:51 AM)

The drink is safe to drink for a good while after, the expiration date seems to apply to how "good" it will be. Usually the carbonation gives out before anything starts growing or it becomes unsafe to consume

@  Paladin : (22 May 2018 - 10:31 AM)

out of curiosity, how solid are the expiration dates on soft drinks?

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 May 2018 - 10:25 AM)

Sure does feel like they are shoring themselves up against losing a significant source of revenue...

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 May 2018 - 10:25 AM)

So I guess Hasbro is going to be making Overwatch toys now

@  Otaku : (19 May 2018 - 02:17 PM)

@TM2-Megatron Yeah, it is like @TheMightyMollusk says. The catch is that usually means they can contain beef, and I confirmed it by pushing my luck. XD So... yeah, if going to the theater was about watching the film, it might be worth potentially resting on the balls of my feet while technically sitting in the chair, but put it all together... and I just wait to watch it at home. Oh, and ticket prices, always ticket prices.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 May 2018 - 10:24 AM)

woot woot! Korean barbeque for dinner!

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 May 2018 - 05:51 AM)

It's meat scraps. Whatever's left over from cutting up the more choice cuts.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 May 2018 - 11:26 PM)

Well, the hot dogs Cineplex has (pretty much our only big theatre chain) around here are quite good, but I have no idea of the composition, and honestly, it's probably better that way.

@  Otaku : (18 May 2018 - 10:01 PM)

@TM2-Megatron In my case, shouldn't risk the hot dogs, either. Maybe if they are guaranteed to contain NO beef (can't digest it anymore >_<).

@  Waspinator : (18 May 2018 - 08:12 PM)

Semper ubi sub ubi

@  Nevermore : (18 May 2018 - 01:18 PM)

Then classmate, I mean.

@  Nevermore : (18 May 2018 - 01:18 PM)

A classmate of mine once did one: Asked for the English term for [underpants], he replied "underground trousers".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 May 2018 - 10:10 AM)

Urkomisch!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 May 2018 - 10:10 AM)

@Nevermore First time I have ever heard of this, but it sounds awesome!

@  Arazyr : (18 May 2018 - 08:39 AM)

We did that amongst ourselves in German class in college. We just called it "Germish", though.

@  Shrug : (18 May 2018 - 07:01 AM)

Nevermore, you've peaked my interest and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter

@  Nevermore : (18 May 2018 - 04:04 AM)

The term itself is an example: "English for Runaways" is supposed to mean "English for advanced speakers".

@  Nevermore : (18 May 2018 - 04:03 AM)

Think of it as the German variety of Engrish, only done completely on purpose for maximum hilarity. The target audience are bilingual German native speakers who a) understand the intended meaning and b) realize the absurdness of the end result.

@  Nevermore : (18 May 2018 - 04:02 AM)

It's basically the official unofficial term for deliberate mistranslations between German and English, done for the lulz.

@  Nevermore : (18 May 2018 - 04:01 AM)

Has anyone ever heard of the term "English for Runaways"?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 May 2018 - 01:13 AM)

Okay... Seriously.. The Mystic Knights need a DVD release already.. I keep seeing them pop up in the most random of places.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (18 May 2018 - 01:03 AM)

Unfortunately no Squidkids at Sea World so no splat zones. Now that would have been a good brand deal to advertise in the park, and would have made more brand sense than friggin' Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nog.


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#1 Nevermore

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 03:13 PM

Hasbro usually has (at least) two sets of promotional stock images.

The first set (also known as "press images") used to depict hand-painted resin prototypes prior to mid-2014. From wave 4 of Combiner Wars onwards, those were replaced by CG renders. Photos of prototypes are still used for redecos and re-releases of toys designed prior to Combiner Wars (such as Titans Return Cosmos, Power of the Primes Skrapnel or the Platinum Edition Autobot Heroes set).

The second set usually depicts (near) final pre-production samples, typically including photos of the tos inside their packaging.


However, there apparently used to be no communication between whoever was responsible for each of the sets, so the figures would typically be depicted in very different poses, and the alternate modes would sometimes face opposite directions. Mistransformations could happen in both sets, but usually you wouldn't see the same mistransformation in both sets. The CG renders don't include actual mistransformations for the most part (although PotP Hun-Gurrr is missing his head in some renders depicted on his packaging).


Starting with Power of the Primes and Studio Series, though, I've noticed that the second set often tries to mimick the poses from the early CG renders, with various degrees of accuracy.

Here are some examples:
W1_Slash_render_robot_01a.jpg W1_Slash_robot_01b.jpg
W1_Windcharger_render_robot_01a.jpg W1_Windcharger_robot_01b.jpg
W1_Evolution_Optimus_Prime_render_robot_02a.jpg W1_Evolution_Optimus_Prime_robot_02d.jpg
W2_Elita-1_render_robot_01a.jpg W2_Elita-1_robot_01b.jpg
W2_Hun-Gurrr_render_robot_02a.jpg W2_Hun-Gurrr_robot_01a.jpg
Wave_1_Stinger_robot_render.jpg Wave_1_Stinger_robot.jpg

Edited by Nevermore, 23 April 2018 - 03:16 PM.

"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
- Volker Pispers, German comedian

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 03:15 PM

More:
Wave_2_Jazz_robot_render.jpg Wave_2_Jazz_robot.jpg
Wave_2_Lockdown_robot_render.jpg Wave_2_Lockdown_robot.jpg
Wave_2_Brawl_robot_render.jpg Wave_2_Brawl_robot.jpg
Wave_2_Megatron_robot_render.jpg Wave_2_Megatron_robot.jpg
Wave_1_Grimlock_robot_render.jpg Wave_1_Grimlock_robota.jpg

Edited by Nevermore, 23 April 2018 - 03:18 PM.

"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
- Volker Pispers, German comedian

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 09:26 PM

Ok.

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 09:48 PM

Weird but kinda interesting.


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 10:01 PM

Huh. I was wondering when Hasbro would start doing something like this.


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 10:16 PM

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 12:30 AM

I personally find this fascinating. Like, I don't know what it means, but everything is slightly weirder now. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 12:32 AM

I think it was weirder in the earlier days when the CG render people and the photography people seemed to be working entirely independently of each other.

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 12:41 AM

It never would have occurred to me that the poses were a consistent part of the toy's marketing representation. I'd assumed the CG people and the stock photo people were just told to make it look cool, and we got whatever they came up with. This makes sense in that the CG people undoubtedly have a clearer idea of what they're doing and the stock photo people demonstrably haven't, but the result is ... it's a little uncanny, honestly.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 08:04 AM

I miss the days when we got stock photos of horrifically mangled, mistransformed toys that had probably been transformed by some bored intern.
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Posted 24 April 2018 - 04:56 PM

A lot of this is also down to timing- The renders are almost always done before or while the toy is actually in physical production; the photography is done after actual painted resin model or toy production... which means after packaging layouts have been composed around the renders.  This used to not be a big deal, but now that the renders take up as much space as possible and have to juggle space for all languages on the same box/card, those layouts get locked down.  If a render is somehow botched at the last minute and there's stock photography available, that stock photography had better fit in that exact same space.


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 06:54 PM

This thread reminded me how weird I thought it was when Universe Stormcloud's stock photo was pretty much identical to Powerglide's in pose but wasn't just the first image photoshopped.  It wasn't helped that Stormcloud's deco was pretty much already paint program inverted Powerglide.



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 05:04 AM

This thread reminded me how weird I thought it was when Universe Stormcloud's stock photo was pretty much identical to Powerglide's in pose but wasn't just the first image photoshopped.  It wasn't helped that Stormcloud's deco was pretty much already paint program inverted Powerglide.


You mean this?
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"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
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