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@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 08:19 PM)

I'm also only reading the trades. So I'm still missing... two volumes that are currently only available as hardcovers? Three?

@  Trpodeca : (17 January 2019 - 06:22 PM)

Astro City is great. Since I only read the trades, there probably won't be a big change for me.

@  ZakuConvoy : (17 January 2019 - 05:34 PM)

I have. Great series. Hopefully the transition to OGNs will be a smooth one.

@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 07:20 AM)

Anyone here reading Kurt Busiek's Astro City?

@  Verity Carlo : (16 January 2019 - 01:12 PM)

https://sites.google...ations---part-1awwwww shit

@  Benbot : (16 January 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Remember the Noid? He steals pizzas!

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:47 AM)

That said, the old "Nester" character from Nintendo Power IS owned by Nintendo, and I could see a homage in there

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:46 AM)

Because technically DiC created the character, Nintendo does not own him.

@  Paladin : (16 January 2019 - 10:28 AM)

sidebar- why is "Captain N" not in Smash yet? that seems like such an easy option.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2019 - 09:18 AM)

The 90's mario cartoons had exactly three character aspects to work with: fat, italian and plumber. He wasn't exactly wrenching pipes in every episode, so they had to do something...

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 January 2019 - 07:31 AM)

It's in another castle.

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:24 AM)

i HOpE sHe mADe LotSA SPAGHETTI

@  Locoman : (16 January 2019 - 06:17 AM)

Mario, wherever you are, HEEEEEEEELP!

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:07 AM)

That's Mama Luigi to you, Mario *wheeze*

@  Pennpenn : (16 January 2019 - 02:24 AM)

It's too hot here.

@  Echowarrior : (15 January 2019 - 11:03 PM)

I liked the Super Mario Brothers Super Show the best myself.

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There's always the three Mario cartoons DiC made back in the 80s.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 09:48 PM)

So they could make a show that everyone would scream was an adventure time knockoff? I get what you're saying, but I can't see it being well received.

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 January 2019 - 08:47 PM)

The fact that Adventure Time was on the air for 8 years and at no point did Nintendo hand the creators a large sack of money and say, "Please make a Mario thing for us" will forever anger me.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 07:03 PM)

There was so much awesome put into design and conception of the super mario bros. movie, and it didn't even need the branding: but it wouldn't have made it to the screen without the branding.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:56 PM)

Many aspects of it have stuck in my memory, though. The boots, the devolution ray, the aesthetic of the dinosaur city

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

I had no idea there was another Mario Bros. movie coming out, though. Doubt it'll top the first one, it was just so bizarre

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

They already act a bit like minions; they just aren't stupid

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 05:35 PM)

The trouble is: I honestly can't decide if making them minions would be better or worse than the continuously shrill voices they've used for the last 20 years.

@  Paladin : (15 January 2019 - 05:27 PM)

hope everyone's ready for Toads to look, act & sound like the Minions forever...

@  Lancer : (15 January 2019 - 04:54 PM)

I mean, considering Illumination is making the new Mario movie, Super Mario Bros. 1993 won't be the worst Mario movie anymore

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 04:36 PM)

"Sir, your pizza's here." "Not now!"

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 04:28 PM)

Actually, yeah. I think I need to watch it again. Great movie.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 03:44 PM)

It's a fun movie with amazing sets. As long as you don't try to connect it to anything else Mario, it's fine.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 03:38 PM)

Damn, I haven't thought about the Super Mario Bros. feature film in forever. Need to watch it again, soon; I can only imagine it gets better with time.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Re:Zero is a fantastic series.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 03:10 PM)

Yeah it's not a bad concept, it's just that lately the term is associated with "I, a Loser Everyman, Woke Up In a Generic Fantasy Setting Where I'm Super Special So Now Girls Orbit Me"

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 12:59 PM)

So too is the old Super Mario Bros movie

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 12:28 PM)

I went and looked up the term "isekai"... that's not actually as bad as I thought it was going to be.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 12:19 PM)

I'm not sure, but the cartoon segments of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Wait. A. Minute. Is Blaster Master an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (15 January 2019 - 08:49 AM)

*Dragon Slave*

@  Xellos : (15 January 2019 - 06:22 AM)

I used to use a pic like that as my avatar for years, but that... is a secret.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 02:07 AM)

Is Flatland an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (14 January 2019 - 11:16 PM)

@Xellos Every time I see you post, I picture Xellos' infuriating smug grin and finger waggling with the "sore wa hi*mi*tsu*desu <3"

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 09:50 PM)

The Last Starfighter is also one of those

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

Astronaut gets shot through a wornhole and ends up on a living starship full of escaped alien prisoners.

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

I realized a few months ago that Farscape is a sci-fi-based Isekai.

@  Sabrblade : (14 January 2019 - 09:03 PM)

The Thor movies and Enchanted, as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 January 2019 - 08:45 PM)

@xellos We get to many of those in Hollywood movies.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 08:13 PM)

Re:Creators!

@  Xellos : (14 January 2019 - 07:47 PM)

There is also Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero, where people regularly get summoned to a fantasy world, then eventually sent back with their accumulated powers (and the main character smuggles the demon lord's daugher by his request, which is a no-no)

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 07:23 PM)

We need more inverse isekais, like The Devil is a Part-Timer

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 04:11 PM)

I feel like Tron is pushing it but I can't actually come up with an argument to that effect

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

To Arazyr- I don't see why it wouldn't be.


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#1 Nevermore

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 03:13 PM

Hasbro usually has (at least) two sets of promotional stock images.

The first set (also known as "press images") used to depict hand-painted resin prototypes prior to mid-2014. From wave 4 of Combiner Wars onwards, those were replaced by CG renders. Photos of prototypes are still used for redecos and re-releases of toys designed prior to Combiner Wars (such as Titans Return Cosmos, Power of the Primes Skrapnel or the Platinum Edition Autobot Heroes set).

The second set usually depicts (near) final pre-production samples, typically including photos of the tos inside their packaging.


However, there apparently used to be no communication between whoever was responsible for each of the sets, so the figures would typically be depicted in very different poses, and the alternate modes would sometimes face opposite directions. Mistransformations could happen in both sets, but usually you wouldn't see the same mistransformation in both sets. The CG renders don't include actual mistransformations for the most part (although PotP Hun-Gurrr is missing his head in some renders depicted on his packaging).


Starting with Power of the Primes and Studio Series, though, I've noticed that the second set often tries to mimick the poses from the early CG renders, with various degrees of accuracy.

Here are some examples:
W1_Slash_render_robot_01a.jpg W1_Slash_robot_01b.jpg
W1_Windcharger_render_robot_01a.jpg W1_Windcharger_robot_01b.jpg
W1_Evolution_Optimus_Prime_render_robot_02a.jpg W1_Evolution_Optimus_Prime_robot_02d.jpg
W2_Elita-1_render_robot_01a.jpg W2_Elita-1_robot_01b.jpg
W2_Hun-Gurrr_render_robot_02a.jpg W2_Hun-Gurrr_robot_01a.jpg
Wave_1_Stinger_robot_render.jpg Wave_1_Stinger_robot.jpg

Edited by Nevermore, 23 April 2018 - 03:16 PM.

"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
- Volker Pispers, German comedian

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 03:15 PM

More:
Wave_2_Jazz_robot_render.jpg Wave_2_Jazz_robot.jpg
Wave_2_Lockdown_robot_render.jpg Wave_2_Lockdown_robot.jpg
Wave_2_Brawl_robot_render.jpg Wave_2_Brawl_robot.jpg
Wave_2_Megatron_robot_render.jpg Wave_2_Megatron_robot.jpg
Wave_1_Grimlock_robot_render.jpg Wave_1_Grimlock_robota.jpg

Edited by Nevermore, 23 April 2018 - 03:18 PM.

"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
- Volker Pispers, German comedian

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 09:26 PM

Ok.

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 09:48 PM

Weird but kinda interesting.

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 10:01 PM

Huh. I was wondering when Hasbro would start doing something like this.


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 10:16 PM

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 12:30 AM

I personally find this fascinating. Like, I don't know what it means, but everything is slightly weirder now. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 12:32 AM

I think it was weirder in the earlier days when the CG render people and the photography people seemed to be working entirely independently of each other.

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 12:41 AM

It never would have occurred to me that the poses were a consistent part of the toy's marketing representation. I'd assumed the CG people and the stock photo people were just told to make it look cool, and we got whatever they came up with. This makes sense in that the CG people undoubtedly have a clearer idea of what they're doing and the stock photo people demonstrably haven't, but the result is ... it's a little uncanny, honestly.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 08:04 AM

I miss the days when we got stock photos of horrifically mangled, mistransformed toys that had probably been transformed by some bored intern.
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Posted 24 April 2018 - 04:56 PM

A lot of this is also down to timing- The renders are almost always done before or while the toy is actually in physical production; the photography is done after actual painted resin model or toy production... which means after packaging layouts have been composed around the renders.  This used to not be a big deal, but now that the renders take up as much space as possible and have to juggle space for all languages on the same box/card, those layouts get locked down.  If a render is somehow botched at the last minute and there's stock photography available, that stock photography had better fit in that exact same space.


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 06:54 PM

This thread reminded me how weird I thought it was when Universe Stormcloud's stock photo was pretty much identical to Powerglide's in pose but wasn't just the first image photoshopped.  It wasn't helped that Stormcloud's deco was pretty much already paint program inverted Powerglide.



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 05:04 AM

This thread reminded me how weird I thought it was when Universe Stormcloud's stock photo was pretty much identical to Powerglide's in pose but wasn't just the first image photoshopped.  It wasn't helped that Stormcloud's deco was pretty much already paint program inverted Powerglide.


You mean this?
Universe-Ultra-Figures-0004_1203364898.jpg Storm2_1214475091.jpg
"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
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