Jump to content


Toggle shoutbox Squawkbox Open the Shoutbox in a popup

Please don't post Youtube videos in the chat box. The forums software auto embeds them. 

@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 08:19 PM)

I'm also only reading the trades. So I'm still missing... two volumes that are currently only available as hardcovers? Three?

@  Trpodeca : (17 January 2019 - 06:22 PM)

Astro City is great. Since I only read the trades, there probably won't be a big change for me.

@  ZakuConvoy : (17 January 2019 - 05:34 PM)

I have. Great series. Hopefully the transition to OGNs will be a smooth one.

@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 07:20 AM)

Anyone here reading Kurt Busiek's Astro City?

@  Verity Carlo : (16 January 2019 - 01:12 PM)

https://sites.google...ations---part-1awwwww shit

@  Benbot : (16 January 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Remember the Noid? He steals pizzas!

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:47 AM)

That said, the old "Nester" character from Nintendo Power IS owned by Nintendo, and I could see a homage in there

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:46 AM)

Because technically DiC created the character, Nintendo does not own him.

@  Paladin : (16 January 2019 - 10:28 AM)

sidebar- why is "Captain N" not in Smash yet? that seems like such an easy option.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2019 - 09:18 AM)

The 90's mario cartoons had exactly three character aspects to work with: fat, italian and plumber. He wasn't exactly wrenching pipes in every episode, so they had to do something...

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 January 2019 - 07:31 AM)

It's in another castle.

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:24 AM)

i HOpE sHe mADe LotSA SPAGHETTI

@  Locoman : (16 January 2019 - 06:17 AM)

Mario, wherever you are, HEEEEEEEELP!

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:07 AM)

That's Mama Luigi to you, Mario *wheeze*

@  Pennpenn : (16 January 2019 - 02:24 AM)

It's too hot here.

@  Echowarrior : (15 January 2019 - 11:03 PM)

I liked the Super Mario Brothers Super Show the best myself.

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There's always the three Mario cartoons DiC made back in the 80s.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 09:48 PM)

So they could make a show that everyone would scream was an adventure time knockoff? I get what you're saying, but I can't see it being well received.

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 January 2019 - 08:47 PM)

The fact that Adventure Time was on the air for 8 years and at no point did Nintendo hand the creators a large sack of money and say, "Please make a Mario thing for us" will forever anger me.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 07:03 PM)

There was so much awesome put into design and conception of the super mario bros. movie, and it didn't even need the branding: but it wouldn't have made it to the screen without the branding.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:56 PM)

Many aspects of it have stuck in my memory, though. The boots, the devolution ray, the aesthetic of the dinosaur city

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

I had no idea there was another Mario Bros. movie coming out, though. Doubt it'll top the first one, it was just so bizarre

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

They already act a bit like minions; they just aren't stupid

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 05:35 PM)

The trouble is: I honestly can't decide if making them minions would be better or worse than the continuously shrill voices they've used for the last 20 years.

@  Paladin : (15 January 2019 - 05:27 PM)

hope everyone's ready for Toads to look, act & sound like the Minions forever...

@  Lancer : (15 January 2019 - 04:54 PM)

I mean, considering Illumination is making the new Mario movie, Super Mario Bros. 1993 won't be the worst Mario movie anymore

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 04:36 PM)

"Sir, your pizza's here." "Not now!"

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 04:28 PM)

Actually, yeah. I think I need to watch it again. Great movie.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 03:44 PM)

It's a fun movie with amazing sets. As long as you don't try to connect it to anything else Mario, it's fine.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 03:38 PM)

Damn, I haven't thought about the Super Mario Bros. feature film in forever. Need to watch it again, soon; I can only imagine it gets better with time.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Re:Zero is a fantastic series.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 03:10 PM)

Yeah it's not a bad concept, it's just that lately the term is associated with "I, a Loser Everyman, Woke Up In a Generic Fantasy Setting Where I'm Super Special So Now Girls Orbit Me"

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 12:59 PM)

So too is the old Super Mario Bros movie

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 12:28 PM)

I went and looked up the term "isekai"... that's not actually as bad as I thought it was going to be.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 12:19 PM)

I'm not sure, but the cartoon segments of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Wait. A. Minute. Is Blaster Master an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (15 January 2019 - 08:49 AM)

*Dragon Slave*

@  Xellos : (15 January 2019 - 06:22 AM)

I used to use a pic like that as my avatar for years, but that... is a secret.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 02:07 AM)

Is Flatland an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (14 January 2019 - 11:16 PM)

@Xellos Every time I see you post, I picture Xellos' infuriating smug grin and finger waggling with the "sore wa hi*mi*tsu*desu <3"

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 09:50 PM)

The Last Starfighter is also one of those

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

Astronaut gets shot through a wornhole and ends up on a living starship full of escaped alien prisoners.

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

I realized a few months ago that Farscape is a sci-fi-based Isekai.

@  Sabrblade : (14 January 2019 - 09:03 PM)

The Thor movies and Enchanted, as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 January 2019 - 08:45 PM)

@xellos We get to many of those in Hollywood movies.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 08:13 PM)

Re:Creators!

@  Xellos : (14 January 2019 - 07:47 PM)

There is also Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero, where people regularly get summoned to a fantasy world, then eventually sent back with their accumulated powers (and the main character smuggles the demon lord's daugher by his request, which is a no-no)

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 07:23 PM)

We need more inverse isekais, like The Devil is a Part-Timer

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 04:11 PM)

I feel like Tron is pushing it but I can't actually come up with an argument to that effect

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

To Arazyr- I don't see why it wouldn't be.


Photo

Optimus Prime #18 Discussion - BEWARE MAJOR SPOILERS FOR #17


187 replies to this topic

#1 Jalaguy

Jalaguy

    won't hold Six Shot upside-down.

  • Staff
  • 9287 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK
  • Faction::RIRFIB

Posted 18 April 2018 - 12:39 AM

Discuss the issue here!

This may or may not be available at any given comic shop today, but definitely does seem to be coming out on comiXology.

Edited by Jalaguy, 18 April 2018 - 12:43 AM.


#2 Creedence

Creedence

    borf borf

  • Citizen
  • 8825 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 18 April 2018 - 12:41 AM

I'm sorry.

tLyft3s.jpg

#3 SHIELD Agent 47

SHIELD Agent 47

    Skull Leader

  • Retired Staff
  • 8545 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Island 1, Macross Frontier
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 18 April 2018 - 12:55 AM

Barber, you magnificent bastard.

 

You truly have the power of the Primes.


遊び終わ。- ブレラ・スターン少佐西暦2059年

 

Visit the Transformers Wiki and the IDW Hasbro Wiki!

 

 


#4 Sockie

Sockie
  • Citizen
  • 1916 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 18 April 2018 - 12:56 AM

Barber, you magnificent bastard.

 

You truly have the power of the Primes.

 

I think we all know who Barber voted for in that poll!



#5 The Magic Man

The Magic Man
  • Citizen
  • 1620 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 18 April 2018 - 01:49 AM

Oh, hi Rabum Alal!



#6 Master Fwiffo

Master Fwiffo

    HUZZAH!

  • Retired Staff
  • 20621 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Lost Light
  • Faction::Minicon

Posted 18 April 2018 - 02:02 AM

You know, I cant help but shake the feeling that theres some plot hole I hadnt noticed that Barber went to all this trouble to solve in the most unexpected way possible.

Edited by Master Fwiffo, 18 April 2018 - 02:03 AM.

ty3jHaa.jpg


#7 Jalaguy

Jalaguy

    won't hold Six Shot upside-down.

  • Staff
  • 9287 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK
  • Faction::RIRFIB

Posted 18 April 2018 - 02:03 AM

"Everything... falls. Everything falls into place. An endless chain. No, a circle. A circle within a circle within the same circle... endless and forever. I see the future." -- Shockwave, The Transformers: Dark Cybertron #1 (2013)

#8 Sockie

Sockie
  • Citizen
  • 1916 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 18 April 2018 - 02:14 AM

You know, I cant help but shake the feeling that theres some plot hole I hadnt noticed that Barber went to all this trouble to solve in the most unexpected way possible.

 

"Why do Megatron and Megatronus have such similar names despite barely anyone on Cybertron knowing about the latter?"



#9 General Tekno

General Tekno

    BRUNT; F.C.A.!

  • Citizen
  • 2028 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Calgary, AB, CA
  • Faction::Vehicon

Posted 18 April 2018 - 02:17 AM

This just raises some really big questions as to what's up with Bumblebee, now.


banner_2015.png

BT Toons - updates Wednesdays and Saturdays.
Blog | Youtube | Twitter | DeviantArt | Tumblr


#10 Jalaguy

Jalaguy

    won't hold Six Shot upside-down.

  • Staff
  • 9287 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK
  • Faction::RIRFIB

Posted 18 April 2018 - 02:26 AM

I'm wondering if Bumblebee has been splintered into different aspects throughout time and space, some of which don't even remember being Bumblebee, and that they'll need to all be brought together to make him whole again.

#11 Walky

Walky

    A bigger physique than a gorilla captain

  • Citizen
  • 39330 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Columbus, OH
  • Faction::RIRFIB

Posted 18 April 2018 - 02:45 AM

Dreamwave: Shockwave caused everything

IDW: hold my beer



#12 SHIELD Agent 47

SHIELD Agent 47

    Skull Leader

  • Retired Staff
  • 8545 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Island 1, Macross Frontier
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 18 April 2018 - 02:47 AM

How much have we had solved with this issue?

 

  • why Onyx is associated with black holes
  • why Megatronus and Megatron have similar names
  • why Liege and Megatronus "betrayed" Solus
  • possibly why fake Onyx appears to stand on two legs
  • why Soundwave couldn't read Liege or Onyx's minds earlier
  • why a bunch of stuff Alpha Trion has spouted was questionable information
  • how Shockwave had any confidence in launching the Regenesis missiles at specific destinations
  • Elonia really has had Cybertronian artifacts crash

After reading #17 and #18, I went back and noticed that in #14, the Darksyde can be barely glimpsed as the ship of the marauding Maximals in Regalis V. We previously saw the Darksyde under Shockwave's command in Revolutionaries #5.

 

Oh yeah, and I think I see Backstop and TM2 Iguanus? / Reptilion? among the shadowed Maximals who look on as Shockwave is talking to Optimus. And the real Onyx's followers include the brown rat thing with a large tail, the tall blue emu, and the green two horned rhino previously seen among Shockwave Onyx's followers in Optimus Prime #10. There's also Mantis who was glimpsed in shadow in Optimus Prime #14 and a brown bat glimpsed in #10 and possibly in the 2017 annual and #14 too. And a small bird who might have been in shadow in #14.


Edited by SHIELD Agent 47, 18 April 2018 - 02:50 AM.

遊び終わ。- ブレラ・スターン少佐西暦2059年

 

Visit the Transformers Wiki and the IDW Hasbro Wiki!

 

 


#13 Sockie

Sockie
  • Citizen
  • 1916 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 18 April 2018 - 02:51 AM

How much have we had solved with this issue?

 

  • why Onyx is associated with black holes
  • why Megatronus and Megatron have similar names
  • why Liege and Megatronus "betrayed" Solus
  • possibly why fake Onyx appears to stand on two legs
  • why Soundwave couldn't read Liege or Onyx's minds earlier
  • why a bunch of stuff Alpha Trion has spouted was questionable information
  • how Shockwave had any confidence in launching the Regenesis missiles at specific destinations
  • Elonia really has had Cybertronian artifacts crash

After reading #17 and #18, I went back and noticed that in #14, the Darksyde can be barely glimpsed as the ship of the marauding Maximals in Regalis V. We previously saw the Darksyde under Shockwave's command in Revolutionaries #5.

 

Oh yeah, and I think I see Backstop and TM2 Iguanus? / Reptilion? among the shadowed Maximals who look on as Shockwave is talking to Optimus. And the real Onyx's followers include the brown rat thing with a large tail, the tall blue emu, and the green two horned rhino previously seen among Shockwave Onyx's followers in Optimus Prime #10. There's also Mantis who was glimpsed in shadow in Optimus Prime #14 and a brown bat glimpsed in #10 and possibly in the 2017 annual and #14 too. And a small bird who might have been in shadow in #14.

 

It's not exactly stated in this this issue, but we can make some pretty strong assumptions about the true nature of the Chosen One and Arisen prophecies as well!


Edited by Sockie, 18 April 2018 - 02:51 AM.


#14 Jalaguy

Jalaguy

    won't hold Six Shot upside-down.

  • Staff
  • 9287 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK
  • Faction::RIRFIB

Posted 18 April 2018 - 02:57 AM

No assumptions needed for the Dark Cybertron/Chosen One prophecy, Alchemist explicitly said Onyx had told it to him in #10!

#15 SHIELD Agent 47

SHIELD Agent 47

    Skull Leader

  • Retired Staff
  • 8545 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Island 1, Macross Frontier
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 18 April 2018 - 02:57 AM

It's not exactly stated in this this issue, but we can make some pretty strong assumptions about the true nature of the Chosen One and Arisen prophecies as well!


Oh yeah, I expect well find out very soon whether there really was a thirteenth Tribe and Prime or if that was yet another contrived idea planted in Cybertronian culture by Shockwave.

Also, why are the Maximals willing to obey the command of a standard-former in a suit when prejudice by standard-formers against beastformers has been a thing for a long time?
遊び終わ。- ブレラ・スターン少佐西暦2059年

 

Visit the Transformers Wiki and the IDW Hasbro Wiki!

 

 


#16 Creedence

Creedence

    borf borf

  • Citizen
  • 8825 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 18 April 2018 - 03:00 AM

Optimus got dropped in the black hole, and we still haven't seen the thirteenth prime mentioned in #10, so hmmm.
 

How much have we had solved with this issue?

Where "Onyx" actually got the idea for the Autobot symbol.
 

Oh yeah, and I think I see Backstop and TM2 Iguanus? / Reptilion? among the shadowed Maximals who look on as Shockwave is talking to Optimus.

That's BM Snarl in the foreground and Ramulus makes another appearance. The Ramondelli characters are very likely just generics he reuses.
 

Oh yeah, I expect well find out very soon whether there really was a thirteenth Tribe and Prime or if that was yet another contrived idea planted in Cybertronian culture by Shockwave.

The thirteenth prime was explicitly stated to be Nexus's "brother from the east" or part of the "northern alliance".

Edited by Creedence, 18 April 2018 - 03:05 AM.


#17 The Magic Man

The Magic Man
  • Citizen
  • 1620 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 18 April 2018 - 03:01 AM

Barber actually knows Hickman, right? Hickman even contributed covers to All Hail Optimus! This is really really funny to me.

#18 unitremover

unitremover
  • Staff
  • 1253 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Faction::RIBFIR

Posted 18 April 2018 - 03:04 AM

So like.

 

Is there any major problem in IDW that isn't Shockwave's fault anymore.



#19 Walky

Walky

    A bigger physique than a gorilla captain

  • Citizen
  • 39330 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Columbus, OH
  • Faction::RIRFIB

Posted 18 April 2018 - 03:12 AM

what is even shockwave's wiki page anymore



#20 Creedence

Creedence

    borf borf

  • Citizen
  • 8825 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 18 April 2018 - 03:18 AM

The thirteenth prime was explicitly stated to be Nexus's "brother from the east" or part of the "northern alliance".

To clarify: the "First Council" seen in #10 included: Vector Prime, Alchemist Prime, Alpha Trion, Nexus Prime, and Solus Prime, making five members. They were joined by Onyx Prime, Megatronus, and Liege Maximo, bringing the count to eight. In #18, we see Micronus Prime, Prima, Quintus Prime, Amalgamous Prime, and one figure in shadow completing the Thirteen.

UmD4PWp.png

Edited by Creedence, 18 April 2018 - 03:22 AM.




Reply to this topic



  


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users