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@  wonko the sane? : (10 December 2019 - 05:43 PM)

I've yet to find an organization which didn't have a backlog of "stuff" that needs to be done, but isn't important enough to put on the schedule proper.

@  TM2-Megatron : (10 December 2019 - 05:01 PM)

I'm sure most good/bad (depending on your POV) bosses would be able to find something for the worker to do, in most cases, even if it's spending 8 hours pretending to push a broom around

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 December 2019 - 04:39 PM)

Still better than American jobs. x.x;

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 December 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I'm pretty sure you've already mentioned this before. Especially that last one.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:05 AM)

That can be fun if you're strong-willed enough. "Hey, you want to go home? Overtime reduction, there's nothing to do..." - "Nah, not today. I want to work."

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:04 AM)

This applies to the field of work as well. Meaning, your boss orders you to show up for a full shift, you show up on time and are absolutely willing to work, and then your boss realizes he has no work for you, your boss has to pay you for a full shift even if you don't work at all.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:03 AM)

Fun fact: German law has a concept named "default in acceptance", which postulates that if there is a "service for payment" contract, the party that should provide the service correctly offers their due service, and the party that should pay fails to accept the service within due time, the second party still has to pay the first party even if there was no service delivered.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:54 PM)

If it's seasonal affective disorder, check with your doc about vitamin D supplements.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:46 PM)

That's what I was thinking too, It's the christmas rush and if that's not stressful enough the cold weather can also impact mental health.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 12:41 PM)

Might be a stupid question given the comment, BUT: have you done anything outside the ordinary lately? Might just be a stress reaction.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I've experienced sleep paralysis with ghostly images and similar things in the past and can snap out of it through moving my fingers. I've definitely hallucinated before and members of both sides of the family have had similar experience, some suffered forms of mental instability in two cases schizophrenia.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:47 AM)

So... either a hallucination or night terrors. Are you prone to this kind of thing?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:55 PM)

It kept repeating until I sat up.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:54 PM)

I've been up since three and when sheepish I was hallucinating something knocking twice against my bedroom door.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 December 2019 - 06:58 PM)

Then repaint Apeface and Snapdragon as Transmetal Optimus Primal and Megatron. It's crazy enough to work.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 December 2019 - 05:32 PM)

Moral imperative.

@  Nevermore : (07 December 2019 - 05:13 PM)

Wishful thinking, rumor or leak?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 04:48 PM)

Snapdragon for Earthrise.

@  TM2-Megatron : (04 December 2019 - 10:22 PM)

Still not the weirdest thing a Nic Cage character has done in a film

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 04:00 PM)

Couldn't be worse than him pissing fire as Ghost Rider.

@  Rycochet : (04 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

The Tim Burton Superman Movie is the DC movie we deserve. It would have Nic Cage in a technosuit punching polarbears.

@  Paladin : (04 December 2019 - 02:59 PM)

Wonder Woman was great. Shazam was amazing. Aquaman... exists.

@  RichardT1977 : (04 December 2019 - 01:54 PM)

TBF, Aquaman and Shazam! were pretty good.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 01:00 PM)

Not a difficult feat.

@  Benbot : (04 December 2019 - 11:50 AM)

You just put more effort into telling a compelling story than all of WB's execs.

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:41 AM)

Cue the flashback to Jonathan, reassuring a terrified child: "What you are is never as important as who you are." Cue Superman's response to Brainiac: "I already know who I am."*John Williams fanfare plays*

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

I don't think we even really need to see Krypton. I'd start with Clark growing up in Kansas, thinking he's normal, and follow him through the development of his powers. There've been enough alternate takes on Krypton that it could actually work as a mystery; is this the pre-Crisis utopia, the sterile science world, or the relic of a fallen empire? Brainiac was there, and he tempts Clark with the knowledge of what he really is.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:12 AM)

First, a Krypton film, ending with baby Kal-El being found on Earth.  Then Supe's early career film, establishing his values... and if Jonothan Kent needs to die, it happens because of something like a heart attack while Clark is savnig folks on the other side of the world.  After we know Clark minimizes property damage and never kills, have Zod & Company show up and force him to make tough choices.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Man of Steel seems like someone came up with a Superman trilogy and then the execs said "We've got to catch up to Marvel, make it one film!".  I don't mean that based on the film's actual pacing, but because various story beats make more sense to me if they weren't all squished together.

@  Cybersnark : (03 December 2019 - 07:44 PM)

I've been wanting to write a Superman movie trilogy for years; "Man of Steel" (featuring a Terminator-like Brainiac) was going to be first, with "Last Son of Krypton" (featuring the Eradicator) as the sequel and "Man of Tomorrow" (in which Luthor makes his face-heel turn) as the conclusion. Thanks to Snyder I have to re-arrange my titles.

@  Nevermore : (03 December 2019 - 06:15 PM)

I still wish "Man of Steel" had instead been an adaptation of both the John Byrne miniseries of the same name and the Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale miniseries "Superman For All Seasons".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (03 December 2019 - 04:42 PM)

A take I just read: Man of Steel is shot with such a lack of lighting that it is easier to discern what is going on in a porn film.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 December 2019 - 12:20 PM)

Making Soylant is harder then it looks, it's not like the movies, you have to keep whacking and hacking at the ingredient, it'll scream and fight, maybe bite but eventually it will go down.

@  Paladin : (03 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

varies from person to person.

@  Benbot : (03 December 2019 - 11:34 AM)

It's an acquired taste

@  CORVUS : (03 December 2019 - 11:17 AM)

Soylent? Its pretty awful.

@  unluckiness : (03 December 2019 - 02:49 AM)

Depends on your denomination of Christianity

@  Patch : (02 December 2019 - 05:52 PM)

@Benbot Do they have a soy-free version? Like maybe just "Lent?"

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 02:03 PM)

Just occurred to me 'Autobot' Megatron happened in Target 2006.

@  Benbot : (02 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

have you tried Soylent? It's pretty good! https://soylent.com/

@  Paladin : (02 December 2019 - 10:01 AM)

i prefer free-range human usually. pain in the ass to hunt though...

@  TheMightyMol... : (02 December 2019 - 09:42 AM)

If your human is all bones, you may have purchased a skeleton by accident. Contact your grocer to inquire about exhange policies.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 09:31 AM)

Vegans are categorised as human therefore just fall under Soylant, they are usually all bones.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:47 PM)

Cause... that latter one is technically all burgers anyway.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:46 PM)

So... a burger made without meat, or a burger made with the meat taken from a vegan?

@  Maximus Ambus : (01 December 2019 - 04:22 PM)

I had a vegan burger last week, this week I'll give a vegan steak a shot.

@  wonko the sane? : (30 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

a proper paradox would have broken the board. Nice try though.

@  Maximus Ambus : (30 November 2019 - 01:47 AM)

This shout is empty.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 November 2019 - 12:01 AM)

I've got the admit. tubi tv is great. It's got a lot of stuff.. Including Super Sentai.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There is frankly no better place to (legally) find schlock on the internet for free than Tubi TV


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#1 Caldwin

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 11:39 PM

I've been curious about this title for a while now. I resisted getting it because I hate horror games...and particularly ones with limited resources.

But I kept hearing about it and of course Logan and all the comparisons that came with it couldn't be ignored.

So I was able to get it off PSN for about $7 on a massive sale (ends tomorrow evening).

I still don't like limited resources as a general rule. But holy crap, this game is good! I've only been playing it since this evening after work...but dang, just the story alone. And the beginning...just...damn!

In a way, I'm glad I waited because dang! I got this cheap! On the other hand, I'm kinda sorry I never played this sooner.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:41 PM

Haven't played but saw the beginning. Yeah, that was painful to watch, especially hearing her voice.

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 03:30 PM

Okay, I gotta just say something here. I have a pistol, a revolver, a riffle, a shotgun, a bow and arrow, shivs and molotov cocktails. Ellie has asked me a few times now for a gun.

Now, I know in todays world, giving a teenager Ellie's age would be generally frowned upon. But in a post-apocalyptic world where the girl has seem some serious shit every day of her life, where she's obviously not stupid and knows a bit about how to survive and...most importantly...WHO YOU ARE DRAGGING ACROSS ZOMBIE INFESTED WAR ZONE AFTER ZOMBIE INFESTED WAR ZONE WITH BARELY A POCKET KNIFE TO DEFEND HERSELF...

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...maybe giving the poor girl a gun wouldn't be too far out of line, hmm?

Yeah, sorry, Joel. I'm with Ellie on this one. Give the damn kid a gun!
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Posted 17 April 2018 - 04:22 PM

I've kind of had my eye on the game for a while. It's not my type of game really, but by all accounts it seems to be worth playing anyway. Right around the time I was seriously considering getting it, the remastered version for PS4 was announced, so I figured I'd wait for that. However many years later now, I still don't have that PS4. While I definitely will eventually get one, I am not likely to get it until next year at the earliest. So with all that in mind, are the PS4 version's enhancements worth waiting for, or should I just go ahead with the PS3 version?



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Posted 17 April 2018 - 06:17 PM

I never played the PS3 version. So I couldn't really say how much better the PS4 is than the PS4. I mean, from what I've seen, you've got the PS3 at 720P with 30fps or the PS4 at 1080p with 60fps.

Going by an IGN review, I guess the photo mode is specific to PS4 if your into photo modes. Trigger buttons I guess are also remapped. But if you haven't created any muscle memory for the game yet, I can't imagine that should be a deciding factor. I guess the Left Behind DLC is supposed to be included (in which case I'm peeved because I actually spent money to get it separately).

Quick google search says that there's some map packs and Left Behind DLC included with remastered not included with the PS3. I haven't played Left Behind yet. I'm waiting for that for post game. I'd say that would be the one significant thing included with Remastered. But even that you should be able to get on PS3, just separately.
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Posted 18 April 2018 - 05:37 PM

Dang! I see Ellie like this and it just gives me chills!

No language problems, but disturbing images. But then it is Last of Us 2...so...yeah.



Guess I better get to finishing this game before the next one comes out.
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Posted 19 April 2018 - 04:15 PM

Shit! I know ordinarily one should avoid spoilers for any game they're currently playing. But...damn! Even when I know it's coming, it packs a punch!
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Posted 29 April 2018 - 07:00 PM

Hell yeah, I high-fived Ellie! You'd have to be a heartless bastard to just leave her hanging. Small moment, but it just became my favorite.

 

Okay, so there's quite a few rumors started by that trailer up there. Since they're just wild mass guessing by fans about a game that's not even out yet, I'm not sure spoiler tags are necessary.

1. Ellie is beginning to feel the effects of her infection. Even though she's technically immune to the zombie aspects of the fungus, she still has this fungus growing on her brain just physically taking up space. This rumor started because of how her hand is shaking before she starts playing the guitar.
 
I really don't think so. I mean, it's possible. But I don't think the hand shaking necessarily points to that. It looks like she just killed three guys...on her own. That's bound to cause a heck of an adrenaline rush for anybody, especially if she isn't used to killing like that (which seems likely given how much she's having to psyche herself up to this roaring rampage that Joel asks her about at the end).
 
2. Joel's dead and Ellie is just imagining/hallucinating his presence and how he would react to what she's doing. That or he could actually be a ghost here. This rumor started given how Joel first appears walking in the door from a background completely whited out, you never see her face and some of his word choices not quite lining up with what Joel would really say.
 
This is a possibility. I wouldn't say that he's a ghost. Even given the zombies in this franchise, it's kept fairly scientific and down to earth. I don't think they'd introduce ghosts. But Joel being dead, or maybe dying at some point in the game...well...Neil Druckmann got kinda cagey when directly asked about this very same theory. But then, of course he would be, whether Joel dies or not. You can't just confirm or deny something like that. Either way it would be a huge spoiler. I'm kinda surprised she even tried. Do a search for "The Last of Us Part II - PSX 2017 Panel | PS4" It's a nearly hour long video and I haven't really screened it for language, so I rather not post it here. But it's possible, but I'm not totally convinced either.

 

3. Those three dead people are Fireflies and she's out to take revenge on them. Maybe for killing Joel, maybe for killing her mother...but in any case, it's the Fireflies that she's after. 

 

This one I actually whole heartedly believe. The Firefly insignia on the stop sign outside only seems to confirm this, which possibly means that it wasn't them that attacked her, it seems very likely that she attacked them!

 

4. Fairly minor rumor says that maybe she got that tattoo from someone close, maybe a lover. This said because in a post-apocalyptic world where trust is hard to come by, you wouldn't let just anyone take the time to poke and prod you with a needle. In any case, it was done to hide her bite.

 

I can agree that she probably had it done to hide the bite. Sure most people seem to be out to kill her anyway. But that bite mark could possibly make enemies of would-be friends because no one wants to be around an infected. Of course, it seemed to me she had some fresh marks on her as well...so...? In any case, the idea that they were done by someone close, maybe a lover...I tend to doubt. I mean, it may be possible. But hardly conclusive with what we're given. My thought is that except for Joel...and if he above is true, maybe even including Joel, every one Ellie ever trusted and/or allowed to get close to her has either betrayed her or died. I'm thinking by the time this game rolls around, she's not going to be too terribly sociable.


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Posted 30 April 2018 - 03:48 PM

Holy crap! I didn't plan on finishing this today. But...credits rolling and...damn! I mean, I've seen Youtube videos. I knew exactly how it ended. But it just...it didn't prepare me. I mean...jeez! Trying not to spoil anything (though I'm getting the feeling I'm the only one reading this thread at this point), but...holy crap! Spoiling myself did nothing to soften the impact. I mean, maybe it did some...but...damn! I am wrecked!

I may need a breather before I do the Left Behind DLC...because...dang!
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Posted 30 April 2018 - 09:10 PM

And that's it for Left Behind. Dang this game didn't pull any punches. The story is just...damn! I can't wait for Part II. I'm actually kind of sorry I'm done with this now. It was a hell of a ride. At least all the cinematics are all unlocked so I can just watch it movie style.
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Posted 01 May 2018 - 05:30 AM

I watched the cinematics before and I think my sorta problem was just a plot part contrivement. About how near the end, after all the monster fighting and stuff they survived, they had to... slip and fall unconscious during that water area? I'm not sure if I'm remembering that right. But they just appeared with the Fireflies and set the stage for the ending scene.

Just felt contrived that they were out, when they (or you as the player) had all the experience and you had no control about them getting knocked out then.

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Posted 01 May 2018 - 06:35 AM

Well, that probably is my one complaint (if I were to have any) about this game.

In actual gameplay, Joel has this kind of echo location ability which, in gameplay, makes it virtually impossible for anyone to get the drop on him. Yet when the game wants it to happen, someone will get the drop on him. And it happens quite a bit.

But Asince it does happen quite a bit during the game, I can't really call them out on any one particular instance.
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Posted 01 May 2018 - 10:55 AM

Oh yeah, the radar, hehe. But, yeah, it was a story point there. After all the monster and enemy evading, you can't stop the cut scene part cuz of plot, hehe

I think it's ok to talk spoilers on a game some years old, right?

Just on the ending, I, hmm, I think I wouldn't have done what Joel did. Or at least I wouldn't have shot the people up. Cuz they were still good guys? But it's the world and everything.

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Posted 01 May 2018 - 11:22 AM

Oh yeah, the radar, hehe. But, yeah, it was a story point there. After all the monster and enemy evading, you can't stop the cut scene part cuz of plot, hehe


Oh, I get what you're saying. I'm just saying, there's several times throughout the game where Joel's radar sense goes poof and someone gets the drop on him. I went back and rewatched the cutscene and saw that the Fireflies didn't really so much as surprise him. They came out of the water and Ellie wasn't breathing. So Joel was doing CPR and while he was doing it, they came up and told him not to move. He didn't listen to them and kept trying to do CPR when they knocked him over the head.

Plus they were actively looking for the Fireflies.

So that part I really don't think that part qualifies for getting the drop on them.
 

Just on the ending, I, hmm, I think I wouldn't have done what Joel did. Or at least I wouldn't have shot the people up. Cuz they were still good guys? But it's the world and everything.


Well, I understand why some people would've liked the choice of whether to save Ellie or save the world. But from what I've seen with Uncharted and here with Last of Us...I don't think that's the kind of game that Naughty Dog makes.

As for doing what Joel did...hehehe! You see, you're really only forced to kill the one doctor with the scalpel (and of course any enemies you meet along the way and ultimately Marlene). But you can leave the other two doctors/nurses that are in the room totally alive. I killed all three of them.

At that point, Joel's already done some brutal things in order to save Ellie. And you know, by the end of it all, even I loved Ellie so much...yeah...no body touches Ellie. So I killed all three doctors, including the two I didn't have to. And while killing Marlene happens in a cinematic, even if I were given a choice, I still would've shot her.

Nobody...NO...BODY...threatens baby girl.


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Posted 01 May 2018 - 02:22 PM

Oh, I don't remember that CPR getting knocked out part anymore, haha. Or Ellie drowning. See, she's a tough kid and if it was gameplay, she wouldn't have drowned, haha.


On the other thing... My paternal instinct isn't there yet so, I dunno, I would let her go.

Or if I ran away with her, I wouldn't kill Marlene. She was out to save the world too :(

Horrible decisions really :( I want happy endings!

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Posted 01 May 2018 - 03:04 PM

Happy endings? You want a happy ending, you should go to a massage parlor. This is Last of Us, damnit!

 

Ahem...anyway...Ellie can't swim. It's actually a big plot point so some of the puzzles. And if by the end of the game, you could decide to just let Ellie die, then you're a monster. A complete and total monster! Hell yeah, I'd kill three doctors and Marlene to save Ellie. I'd kill ALL the doctors before I let anything happen to Ellie. Humanity is not worth her life!

 

Not really joking with that last one, either. By the end of the game, you see that humanity is rather scummy. With very few exceptions, there aren't too many people worth saving. Ellie's one of them.

 

So yeah, great game. Highly suggest it. You should be able to find it for $20 on the PSN or retail. Probably cheaper at a Disc Replay or something. So, hell yeah I think you should play this. 

 

Considering I was on vacation for a week (and in another state where I couldn't play this at all for that entire week) and already I've finished it since starting this thread...I'd say I finished this in maybe a little over a week. So, yeah, maybe short (or I just played the hell out of it). But considering the low price point you should be able to find it at, and the hell of a ride you'd be in for...I really suggest playing through this. You miss a lot by only having seen the cinematics. 


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Posted 12 June 2018 - 09:22 PM

Okay...HEAVY LANGUAGE AND VIOLENCE WARNING...SERIOUSLY!

But being Last of Us...I'm not sure how gameplay footage would get posted otherwise.


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Posted 03 July 2018 - 08:28 PM

Okay, wild mass guessing time. This is just a crazy idea, but I'm going ahead and posting it so that if it actually happens, I can point and say "called it."

Ellie is out to kill whoever's responsible for her girlfriends death. Big duh, that's kind of a widespread theory. But here goes.

Joel sees the path Ellie is headed down and tries to stop her. Either by accident or on purpose because no body is going to stop her from her mission of revenge...Ellie kills Joel.

I want to say it's a stupid theory and no way would it happen...but with the state of mind Ellie's in just in the trailers? Last of Us isn't exactly known for pulling its punches.

Edited by Caldwin, 03 July 2018 - 08:29 PM.

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 06:23 PM

Just stumbled upon this neat video, Lego The Last of Us


My FlickR folder...

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 06:37 PM

I would totally play that.
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