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@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 06:35 PM)

I loved what was there, and think it's pretty ripe for "renegades" style reboot.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:13 PM)

It's a shame as I loved Spiral Zone, and the design from the Japanese Toyline of the same name are fantastic, I adore the monowheel motorbike.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:12 PM)

Hasbro doesn't seem to have any interest in doing anything with the TV show, haven't greenlit any attempt to rerelease it, and there have been approaches, so I think it may be aother one of Tonka's legal carcrashes where everyone involved owns a piece and it's not really worth anyone sticking their neck out to claim ownership.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I feel that homages and references would be a fun way to expand the GI Joe brand, and give a little love to lines that are unlikely to be acknowledged beyond such capacity.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I was under the impression that Bandai was more the character design aspects, not story or characters.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:55 PM)

Also isn't it in rights limbo, given how it's loosely based on concepts from a BanDai series much like GoBots?

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:52 PM)

We don't need a Spiral Zone reboot, in a decade or so we'll be living it.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 12:49 PM)

Yeah, but it would fundamentally change the base premise of both gijoe and spiral zone. It's either not the world spanning threat it was, or the zone riders are backed up by a competent force. Either way, you compromise the context of both.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:19 PM)

Akin to what was done with Matt Tracker in 2008.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

Again, not a PURE transplant, but an integration of ideas and concepts into the world of GI Joe.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

@Wonko The Cobra Overlord, with help from Dr. Mindbender and Cesspool, develops machines capable of generating a mind-controlling fog. GI Joe stalwarts Flint, Airtight, Lifeline, and Psyche-Out are joined by Colonal Courage to infiltrate these zones and disable the machines. Figures would sport hostile environment suits (Eco warriors cross with Spiral Zone) and make new versions of the mono-wheel vehicles.

@  Maximus Ambus : (19 September 2020 - 09:39 AM)

Hasbroverse.2 with bought properties: Bravestarr, Ulysses 31, Galaxy Rangers, Shadow Raiders, Manta Force, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, Mighty Orbots, Jem and Bigfoot and the Muscle Machines. Seamless.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 08:32 AM)

While acknoledging spiral zone would be pretty boss, I doubt they could actively integrate it into anything else: given the scale of the villains deeds.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:03 AM)

COPS, Spiral Zone, Shadow Strikers, Action Man, Centurions, MegaForce. They wouldn’t replicate the old lines, but simply acknowledging their existence would be nifty.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:01 AM)

I would love to see GI Joe become something of a “celebration of action figures”. Hasbro has SO MANY old action figure properties, and many could slot into the GI Joe umbrella with relative ease.

@  Otaku : (19 September 2020 - 12:04 AM)

G.I. Joe, CyberCOPS, and M.A.S.K. all seem like something that would work from Animated or Prime, though CyberCOPS might have been a bit trickier from Prime.

@  Sabrblade : (18 September 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Rik Alvarez originally wanted the last episode of Prime to spinoff into a new MASK reboot.

@  Otaku : (18 September 2020 - 08:19 PM)

The failed Hasbroverse reminds me how so many things could have been spun off from Transformers: Animated and (after that) Transformers: Prime.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 12:43 PM)

Requiem of the Wreckers was post-Revolution, but it was also, you know, a single issue.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:06 AM)

But Roche didn't have a series to keep out from the crossovers since Sins of the Wreckers was before Revolution.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:01 AM)

Oh wait, that post said Roche, not Barber.

@  Rycochet : (18 September 2020 - 10:46 AM)

And then seemed surprised nobody particlarly wanted it.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 10:25 AM)

Wasn't Barber among the editorial guys that pushed for Hasbroverse?

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 September 2020 - 10:19 AM)

He did it possibly due to 616 Spider-Mans marriage reset between Civil War and Secret Invasion.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 09:20 AM)

Bendis kept a tight leash on Ultimate Spider-Man because it was mostly set far away from Earth?

@  -LittleAutob... : (18 September 2020 - 08:49 AM)

I'm learning so much-

@  Maruten : (18 September 2020 - 04:21 AM)

At its worst it was better than MASK, sure.

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 September 2020 - 02:15 AM)

At it's worst it still stomped all over the failed Hasbroverse. Roberts and Roche kept their respective series well out of that one for the same reasons Bendis kept a tight leash on Ultimate Spider-Man when Loeb and Miller wanted greater control for Ultimatum.

@  Maruten : (17 September 2020 - 06:37 PM)

That's so accurate it's physically painful.

@  Rycochet : (17 September 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Red Dwarf of Transformers? An interesting, innovative and genuinely funny series that descended into a self referential mess of cliches that continues long after it should have been put out to pasture and rendered nerly everyone thoroughly unlikeable? That seems about right.

@  Bass X0 : (17 September 2020 - 01:59 PM)

MTMTE and Lost Light are the Red Dwarf of Transformers stories, as opposed to the others which are more like Star Wars and Star Trek.

@  Kalidor : (17 September 2020 - 01:37 PM)

Anyone in CONUS want a Skylynx for $100 shipped?

@  Maximus Ambus : (17 September 2020 - 01:34 PM)

Maybe an acquired taste in that's in that it's from a fan raised on the UK run where Transformers wasn't taken so seriously in many stories, especially some Earthforce standalones.

@  Paladin : (17 September 2020 - 09:47 AM)

so, terrible?

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 September 2020 - 09:26 AM)

Yeah I think at that point Lost Light is just the '86 movie without the soundtrack.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 September 2020 - 02:28 AM)

So, exctly what Triangleman just said.

@  Bass X0 : (17 September 2020 - 12:36 AM)

A few of the same characters.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 September 2020 - 12:07 AM)

Now having actually read Galaxies #10, I don't actually see what it has in common with Lost Light at all besides featuring Ultra Magnus, Chromedome, and a spaceship.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 September 2020 - 05:33 PM)

So, it's exactly like Lost Light, then.

@  Bass X0 : (16 September 2020 - 01:52 PM)

What if Lost Light was stripped bare of its charm and humor? Galaxies #10 is the answer.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 September 2020 - 01:49 PM)

I didn't mean "*exactly* 15 years ago and no other time."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 September 2020 - 12:27 AM)

I mean, the comment was about a linewide gimmick of 15 years ago, not a gimmick only present in a minority of toys from that year.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 September 2020 - 12:14 AM)

I'd like a western take on the UT for it's twentieth, like a annual CG or anime movie on Netflix that is a condensed retelling similar to the film Macross/Robotech: Do You Remember Love.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 September 2020 - 12:11 AM)

Giant Planet had them, Energon had a few. I've been disappointed in Siege for not having something for the Micromasters, Earthrise has with the base bots but they've been wasted here.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (15 September 2020 - 10:47 PM)

Wasn't 15 years ago Cyber Keys rather than Minicons?

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 September 2020 - 09:38 PM)

By and large, even the worst Minicons have some unique engineering or design elements. The nostalgia factor aside, Micromasters got pretty samey after you got several, especially the "proper" 89 series.

@  unluckiness : (15 September 2020 - 07:13 PM)

There's certainly a load of crummy ones to sift through

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 September 2020 - 05:29 PM)

Or both. There's some overlap.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 September 2020 - 03:19 PM)

People either hated minicons or became completely addicted to them.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 September 2020 - 03:17 PM)

A properly-planned theme, or as people called it 15 years ago, a stupid linewide baby toy gimmick that ruins the toys.


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#1 SHIELD Agent 47

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 12:30 AM

Wow, it has been 18 years since the premiere of Transformers: Car Robots (西暦2000年4月5日).
 
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The George Lazenby of major Transformers iterations.

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 12:46 AM

Its the last show i actually liked
When I die I will surely go to Heaven for i spent my life in Hell

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 12:54 AM

The timing of this thread's creation is nearly impeccable, as two years ago from the day before yesterday (April 3, 2016) was the day that Kōji Wada, singer of the Car Robots theme song, passed away.

 

He also performed one other song for Car Robots that never made it into the show itself, but which was included on the theme song's single album release:

 

 

Rest in peace, Wada-sensei, and thank you for performing one of the most hot-blooded Transformers theme songs of all time!

 


Edited by Sabrblade, 05 April 2018 - 01:00 AM.

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 02:06 AM

I could have never dreamed that three TFs that essentially turned into tubes on wheels would become (and still remain) my favorite combiner of all time.

JRX represent!


P.S. I nominate the transition from "Speed Breaker" to "Side Burn" the worst TF name downgrade of all time.


P.P.S. The attack "Southpaw Lariat", in and of itself, justifies the ridiculous transformation of an entire front end of an SUV becoming a single forearm of a robot. Pro-wrestling in the house!

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 02:59 AM

RID was my first Transformers series, although I didn't see much of the show since the Fox affiliate down here in South Florida didn't air Fox Kids, I only remember watching it at my family's summer home in Massachusetts.

Sky-Byte was rad as all Hell as a toy though.

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 05:56 AM

It still makes me laugh.

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 06:00 AM

The George Lazenby of major Transformers iterations.

 

That's the best description of RiD I ever heard.



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Posted 05 April 2018 - 06:16 AM

At the time I saw it as a sitcom about the Great War that Maximals would watch, like Hogan's Heroes or F-Troop. Make the bad guys Preds for propaganda purposes.

I watched a few episodes of it with my son a few years ago, and I was surprised at how much I still like it. I definitely appreciate it more now than I did at the time. I should revisit it.

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 07:09 AM

I liked RID quite a bit.

 

I remember when they first revealed the Car Robots figures (or as the fandom was calling it at the time "Transformers 2000").  How excited I was.

 

To me, it's still the closest thing to a return what the original 1984 lineup was.


I'm glad to have had all of the CR AND RID figures.  I'm going to go play with my brand new Encore God Fire Convoy some more.  :)


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Posted 05 April 2018 - 07:16 AM

The first Transformers I recall getting after getting married and moving to Toronto were from this line.

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 07:45 AM

Fire Convoy was my first ever Japanese import. Super Wildride was my second.  They both still stand on my shelf today.



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Posted 05 April 2018 - 08:38 AM

Fire Convoy was my first ever Japanese import. Super Wildride was my second.  They both still stand on my shelf today.

Gigatron was my first ever Japanese import.  I went with the american version of Convoy, Scourge, and Magnus.



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Posted 05 April 2018 - 08:43 AM

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 08:45 AM

I'm going to go play with my brand new Encore God Fire Convoy some more.  :)

 

I hope yours doesn't have the numerous mold issues plaguing almost everyone else's!

 

(Putting the attack sounds on the wrong sides is especially egregious.)


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Posted 05 April 2018 - 09:16 AM

P.P.S. The attack "Southpaw Lariat", in and of itself, justifies the ridiculous transformation of an entire front end of an SUV becoming a single forearm of a robot. Pro-wrestling in the house!

Heh, know what else? It's funny that that attack only exists in printed media like the toy's bio and description entries published in Japanese magazines, as it was never even used in the show itself, with only Episode 2 having one character (Fire Convoy, no less) ever refer to Wild Ride's big arm as his "Southpaw". :p


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 09:17 AM

It made me a Transformers fan.

 

Anyhow, an observation from my twitter:

 

There's an alternate universe out there somewhere where RID01 X-Brawn really did get named "Strongarm", and then years later RID 2015 gave us rambunctious cowgirl Strongarm as part of Bumblebee's team.

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 09:41 AM

 

I'm going to go play with my brand new Encore God Fire Convoy some more.  :)

 

I hope yours doesn't have the numerous mold issues plaguing almost everyone else's!

 

(Putting the attack sounds on the wrong sides is especially egregious.)

 

 

I mentioned the foot thing earlier in the thread, but haven't really noticed anything else.

 

I am not familiar enough with which side of God Magnus should have the Vulcan versus the Laser.


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Posted 05 April 2018 - 10:02 AM

C-001 Super Fire Convoy was among my earliest imports.  I also imported the three Cybertron cars.  Like DeltaSeeker, they are all still in my collection and are a lot of fun to fiddle with.


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Posted 05 April 2018 - 10:40 AM

This series is easily my number 3 in terms of personal attachment, with BW/BM coming in first and G1 coming in second. And it's actually a pretty close contest between RiD (should I just start calling it Car Robots now to avoid confusion?) and G1 (after that comes Animated and then I don't really care about anything else that much). I still have my old Sky-byte figure that I bought when the show was on, which is also the first figure I ever bought as a collecter (albeit as a teenage collector who still ended up losing a lot of figures because of younger siblings) rather than simply to play with. I also still have my old Scourge figure, which I rode an hour on the bus to the nearest Toys R Us (RIP) to get. Ah, memories...

 

 

One of these days I want to have a complete collection of all the RiD/CR show characters, especially after I saw that there's a new Ruination/Baldigus figure out now that does the character a lot more justice. 


Edited by Green Ranger, 05 April 2018 - 10:54 AM.


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Posted 05 April 2018 - 10:56 AM

Story Time:

 

I remember drooling over the pics of the toys and screenshots from the anime when it was brand-new, and wishing I had the resources to import the stuff. Naturally, I was over the moon to finally find out that something Japanese was finally being straight up imported here. I was somewhat dismayed, though, to find out that they were giving the cast G1 character names, since at the time, I’d bought into the fandom misconception that the anime fit in the JG1 continuity, was set in the Season 2-TFTM gap (later retcons aside), and that the Predacons had come from the future to fight the Autobots that Prime had left to guard Earth (This is still my personal canon for the franchise in my head). Renaming them threw that off.

 

Nevertheless, I remember eagerly sitting down for the premiere on Fox Kids, which I’d taped off TV (since I wasn’t around for some reason) and viewed that night, like it was a big network TV premiere…..and immediately being disappointed again. Child-me, with my poor knowledge of anime, thought of it as being two extremes: Pokemon and Digimon at one end, and “serious stuff” like Dragonball Z and Gundam Wing at the other end. Thanks to the seriousness of the Beast Era, I’d assumed RID would be like the latter, when it turned out to be the former. I kept on, though, but only made it about halfway through the show, before quitting out of apathy and laziness (since, for whatever reason, I needed to tape most episodes to watch them).

 

As a grown person, I shake my head at younger me’s lack of taste and early attempts to age out of “kids stuff.” I’ve always meant to give the show a proper, modern rewatch, especially since I’ve never seen how it ended. I always said I’d get around to it if Shout Factory ever got the rights to release it, though I may break that rule one day. Also, I really wish the Encore GFC set was a: Cheaper, and b: Was just Prime, no Magnus or sword, since I don't care as much about those.


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