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@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 08:19 PM)

I'm also only reading the trades. So I'm still missing... two volumes that are currently only available as hardcovers? Three?

@  Trpodeca : (17 January 2019 - 06:22 PM)

Astro City is great. Since I only read the trades, there probably won't be a big change for me.

@  ZakuConvoy : (17 January 2019 - 05:34 PM)

I have. Great series. Hopefully the transition to OGNs will be a smooth one.

@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 07:20 AM)

Anyone here reading Kurt Busiek's Astro City?

@  Verity Carlo : (16 January 2019 - 01:12 PM)

https://sites.google...ations---part-1awwwww shit

@  Benbot : (16 January 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Remember the Noid? He steals pizzas!

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:47 AM)

That said, the old "Nester" character from Nintendo Power IS owned by Nintendo, and I could see a homage in there

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:46 AM)

Because technically DiC created the character, Nintendo does not own him.

@  Paladin : (16 January 2019 - 10:28 AM)

sidebar- why is "Captain N" not in Smash yet? that seems like such an easy option.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2019 - 09:18 AM)

The 90's mario cartoons had exactly three character aspects to work with: fat, italian and plumber. He wasn't exactly wrenching pipes in every episode, so they had to do something...

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 January 2019 - 07:31 AM)

It's in another castle.

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:24 AM)

i HOpE sHe mADe LotSA SPAGHETTI

@  Locoman : (16 January 2019 - 06:17 AM)

Mario, wherever you are, HEEEEEEEELP!

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:07 AM)

That's Mama Luigi to you, Mario *wheeze*

@  Pennpenn : (16 January 2019 - 02:24 AM)

It's too hot here.

@  Echowarrior : (15 January 2019 - 11:03 PM)

I liked the Super Mario Brothers Super Show the best myself.

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There's always the three Mario cartoons DiC made back in the 80s.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 09:48 PM)

So they could make a show that everyone would scream was an adventure time knockoff? I get what you're saying, but I can't see it being well received.

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 January 2019 - 08:47 PM)

The fact that Adventure Time was on the air for 8 years and at no point did Nintendo hand the creators a large sack of money and say, "Please make a Mario thing for us" will forever anger me.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 07:03 PM)

There was so much awesome put into design and conception of the super mario bros. movie, and it didn't even need the branding: but it wouldn't have made it to the screen without the branding.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:56 PM)

Many aspects of it have stuck in my memory, though. The boots, the devolution ray, the aesthetic of the dinosaur city

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

I had no idea there was another Mario Bros. movie coming out, though. Doubt it'll top the first one, it was just so bizarre

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

They already act a bit like minions; they just aren't stupid

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 05:35 PM)

The trouble is: I honestly can't decide if making them minions would be better or worse than the continuously shrill voices they've used for the last 20 years.

@  Paladin : (15 January 2019 - 05:27 PM)

hope everyone's ready for Toads to look, act & sound like the Minions forever...

@  Lancer : (15 January 2019 - 04:54 PM)

I mean, considering Illumination is making the new Mario movie, Super Mario Bros. 1993 won't be the worst Mario movie anymore

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 04:36 PM)

"Sir, your pizza's here." "Not now!"

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 04:28 PM)

Actually, yeah. I think I need to watch it again. Great movie.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 03:44 PM)

It's a fun movie with amazing sets. As long as you don't try to connect it to anything else Mario, it's fine.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 03:38 PM)

Damn, I haven't thought about the Super Mario Bros. feature film in forever. Need to watch it again, soon; I can only imagine it gets better with time.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Re:Zero is a fantastic series.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 03:10 PM)

Yeah it's not a bad concept, it's just that lately the term is associated with "I, a Loser Everyman, Woke Up In a Generic Fantasy Setting Where I'm Super Special So Now Girls Orbit Me"

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 12:59 PM)

So too is the old Super Mario Bros movie

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 12:28 PM)

I went and looked up the term "isekai"... that's not actually as bad as I thought it was going to be.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 12:19 PM)

I'm not sure, but the cartoon segments of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Wait. A. Minute. Is Blaster Master an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (15 January 2019 - 08:49 AM)

*Dragon Slave*

@  Xellos : (15 January 2019 - 06:22 AM)

I used to use a pic like that as my avatar for years, but that... is a secret.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 02:07 AM)

Is Flatland an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (14 January 2019 - 11:16 PM)

@Xellos Every time I see you post, I picture Xellos' infuriating smug grin and finger waggling with the "sore wa hi*mi*tsu*desu <3"

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 09:50 PM)

The Last Starfighter is also one of those

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

Astronaut gets shot through a wornhole and ends up on a living starship full of escaped alien prisoners.

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

I realized a few months ago that Farscape is a sci-fi-based Isekai.

@  Sabrblade : (14 January 2019 - 09:03 PM)

The Thor movies and Enchanted, as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 January 2019 - 08:45 PM)

@xellos We get to many of those in Hollywood movies.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 08:13 PM)

Re:Creators!

@  Xellos : (14 January 2019 - 07:47 PM)

There is also Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero, where people regularly get summoned to a fantasy world, then eventually sent back with their accumulated powers (and the main character smuggles the demon lord's daugher by his request, which is a no-no)

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 07:23 PM)

We need more inverse isekais, like The Devil is a Part-Timer

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 04:11 PM)

I feel like Tron is pushing it but I can't actually come up with an argument to that effect

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

To Arazyr- I don't see why it wouldn't be.


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#1 Jalaguy

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 03:18 AM

Discuss the issue here!

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 05:39 AM

This was pretty gripping.  Lots of great character interactions and intrigue surrounding Onyx and Liege.

 

I hope the fact that Ramulus and Gnashteeth were consistently in the background and had no lines doesn't mean they're limited to cameos.  Also, it seems like Scoop completely backslid from his characterisation from just last issue.

 

I'm all of a sudden struck by an urge to grab my Marvel Legends Loki, put him under a basket, and put Legends Seaspray and Beachcomber in front of it.



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 07:56 AM

That was really good but Im confused by the ending. Was Soundwave a bomb?

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 09:00 AM

I think someone just detonated a bomb, and Onyx thinks Soundwave did

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 09:29 AM

Hey, it's Seaspray!


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 12:47 PM

Alpha Trion working out what Onyx is up to and then immediately dying before he can say it out loud is incredibly cruel and I love it.

The mention of "what you are" has me thinking back in the "he's a Herald" direction...

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 04:09 PM

I hope the fact that Ramulus and Gnashteeth

 

There's no reason to think that's his name here, is there?



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 04:55 PM

I enjoyed the first part of this immensely, Onyx continues to be very interesting, despite it still being hard to know what to make of him. At best he wants Cybertronians to be self-sufficient, at worst he's a Cybertronian supremacist (if not necessarily a techno-supremacist?). And we get a lot of cool cameos like Ramulus, BW Megatron, Beachcomber and Seaspray.

 

The end though, ugh. I like Zama's art and Barber's been doing some good writing here, but what happened here was exceptionally poorly communicated. I suppose the idea is that a bomb of some sort hits the council chamber and kills Alpha Trion, with Oynx deciding to pin it on Soundwave (who had just burst in angrily) and Liege?



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 06:04 PM

Yeah, that whole sequence was not clear, which it really ought to be if it's doing something as significant as killing Alpha Trion. 

 

But who cares? Seaspray! 


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 06:12 PM

I thought Soundwave was literally the bomb, like Liege had somehow turned his powers into a sonic weapon like in the Delphi arc of MTMTE.



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 06:23 PM

So, I've seen some people who seem to believe that

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 06:25 PM

So, I've seen some people who seem to believe that

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 06:30 PM

See, if Onyx is Maximo's puppet, the way I see it is that it's nothing new.

 

After all, LAST TIME Onyx made a big entry, he brought Maximo along for the ride for some reason...


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 06:48 PM

 

I hope the fact that Ramulus and Gnashteeth

 

There's no reason to think that's his name here, is there?

 

No, but it would be fantastic if he is named and that's what they use.

 

 

Alpha Trion dying hurt me, so much knowledge and history dying with him.

 

I'm glad Optimus finally admitted that maybe Galvatron isn't the most reliable voice to believe when it comes to Onyx.

 

It's too bad neither Airazor or Tigatron interacted with Onyx, maybe next chapter.



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 06:58 PM

See, if Onyx is Maximo's puppet, the way I see it is that it's nothing new.
 
After all, LAST TIME Onyx made a big entry, he brought Maximo along for the ride for some reason...

That seems difficult to reconcile with Liege being locked up for 4 million or so years. Onyx was clearly busy doing stuff in the interim.

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 07:05 PM

 

 

I hope the fact that Ramulus and Gnashteeth

 

There's no reason to think that's his name here, is there?

 

No, but it would be fantastic if he is named and that's what they use.

 

 

I mean, it wouldn't, because all it would be, would be "heh heh BWU reference," when BWU itself has the character talk about how bad of a fit the name is for him.


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 07:11 PM

Right. I think the two real options are: He just has the same name, like how Megatron just has nearly the same name as Megatronus. Or we get a "From now on, call me... Megatron." scene with no past name given.

If he turns out to be anything more than a background cameo. I'm not hopeful.

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 07:32 PM

 

 

 

I hope the fact that Ramulus and Gnashteeth

 

There's no reason to think that's his name here, is there?

 

No, but it would be fantastic if he is named and that's what they use.

 

 

I mean, it wouldn't, because all it would be, would be "heh heh BWU reference," when BWU itself has the character talk about how bad of a fit the name is for him.

 

Well that's true, I just found it to be a good Pre-Megatron name for him, I don't feel like it would make sense for one of Onyx's troops to have a variation of Megatronus.

 

 

Heh, I just realized this "Beast Megatron" is a Maximal.



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 07:51 PM

Or we get a "From now on, call me... Megatron." scene with no past name given.

 

This should be the standard for any and all versions of Beast Wars Megatron. I never wanted to know his original name, no.



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 08:01 PM

 

Or we get a "From now on, call me... Megatron." scene with no past name given.

 

This should be the standard for any and all versions of Beast Wars Megatron. I never wanted to know his original name, no.

 

Problem is, he has to either start having already taken the name (like the cartoon), or we have to see the story building up to the name change (like BWU). You can't have people just calling him "Hey, You".





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