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@  Otaku : (09 July 2020 - 07:47 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk Ah, but the series itself has pronounced "Bass" both ways. ;)  Oh, 90s English Capcom video game voice acting...

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 July 2020 - 03:14 AM)

Looking at my Titan Returns collection I can see they realised they didn't have to paint the Titan Masters after wave one, lazy bums.

@  Maruten : (08 July 2020 - 09:13 PM)

No, I'm going with "fish".

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 July 2020 - 04:19 PM)

He stated that it's in reference to the Mega Man character, so it follows the series' tradition of music names.

@  Cybersnark : (08 July 2020 - 03:59 PM)

The real question is if it's "bass" as in music or "bass" as in the fish.

@  Otaku : (08 July 2020 - 01:27 PM)

Well, at least now I know how to pronounce @Bass X0 's screen name. ^^'  Rather, I think I'd just forgotten.  In my defense, it really does look like an emoticon or maybe just "decoration", which is what a lot of folks add to their screen names online.  Usually because someone has the name they really want. XD

@  ▲ndrusi : (08 July 2020 - 01:27 PM)

Extremely unimpressed with your idea that someone making a negative observation you don't like means they "got triggered."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (08 July 2020 - 11:16 AM)

You know somebody asked "And this would be in relation to... what exactly?"

@  Bass X0 : (08 July 2020 - 11:15 AM)

Its because someone got triggered over my random musings instead of just ignoring them. If I read one of your comments that is of no relevance or interest to me, I don't feel the need to say so.

@  -LittleAutob... : (08 July 2020 - 10:56 AM)

All this over someone's username lol

@  ▲ndrusi : (08 July 2020 - 08:34 AM)

Bazro.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (08 July 2020 - 06:34 AM)

It could be Bass 10-0

@  Nevermore : (08 July 2020 - 06:11 AM)

How do you pronounce yourself? "Bass Ex-O" or "Bass Ex-Zero"?

@  Bass X0 : (08 July 2020 - 03:23 AM)

I did almost go with Vile Bass X0, because Vile is cool too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 July 2020 - 08:34 PM)

Bossk Saw

@  ▲ndrusi : (07 July 2020 - 04:16 PM)

Bass XD

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 03:43 PM)

And its not Bass XO, its Bass X0, as in Bass, X and Zero from the Mega Man series.

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 July 2020 - 02:33 PM)

@Trpodeca :( :(

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 July 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Thats what a gray rock is? Then I'm not one.

@  Trpodeca : (07 July 2020 - 02:12 PM)

Man I just learnt about what seemed like a really cool show, only to realize it was a dream and it dosen't really exist.

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 01:02 PM)

Just something I read that I wanted to share. I heard "gray rock" mentioned in a video, so I looked it up and that was the definition.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 July 2020 - 12:20 PM)

It's a fancy way of saying "Ignore annoying people".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (07 July 2020 - 12:15 PM)

Bass XO has a habit of pasting random drivel here as if doing so were profound.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 July 2020 - 11:30 AM)

And this would be in relation to... what exactly?

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 11:25 AM)

"One strategy for dealing with a narcissist or sociopath is to act like a "gray rock," meaning that you become uninteresting and unresponsive. You don't feed their needs for drama or attention. You don't show emotion, say anything interesting, or disclose any personal information"

@  Nevermore : (06 July 2020 - 07:23 PM)

Oh wow. Studio Series Offroad Bumblebee is awesome. His articulation is amazing.

@  -LittleAutob... : (06 July 2020 - 11:18 AM)

Oof-

@  Maximus Ambus : (05 July 2020 - 01:10 AM)

I got Studio Series 39 Cogman yesterday and woke up to find he'd decapitated my titans returns figures.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 July 2020 - 10:19 PM)

If I had a sarcasm powered mouth.. ooohh waaaiiittt...

@  -LittleAutob... : (04 July 2020 - 05:01 PM)

Heh

@  Bass X0 : (04 July 2020 - 02:56 PM)

"If I had sarcasm-powered legs, I'd do a happy dance...!"

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 July 2020 - 02:39 PM)

The real clones were the friends we made along the way.

@  Maximus Ambus : (04 July 2020 - 01:47 PM)

So the Emperor in episodes 1 through 6 was a clone?

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 10:47 AM)

(And the 0th anniversary of the last time I couldn't do math.)

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Today is the 24th anniversary of the day we fought off an alien invasion with the help of Will Smith.

@  Maximus Ambus : (04 July 2020 - 10:41 AM)

Oh the end of the Ottoman Empire of course.

@  -LittleAutob... : (04 July 2020 - 10:14 AM)

*ahem* 4th of July....

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 08:14 AM)

Nothing of importance has happened before, and nothing of importance will happen again.

@  Maximus Ambus : (04 July 2020 - 08:12 AM)

Nothing of importance happened today.

@  Telly : (03 July 2020 - 09:54 PM)

i want a "i survived 'rona and all i got was this lousy t-shirt"

@  TheMightyMol... : (03 July 2020 - 03:42 PM)

Slogan for 2021: "I Lived, Bitch."

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 July 2020 - 03:23 PM)

They should make the next book in the Survivors series 'I SURVIVED CORONA VIRUS 2020'

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 July 2020 - 03:23 PM)

YEEEE I'M A SURVIVOR-

@  Nevermore : (03 July 2020 - 06:59 AM)

Probably gonna assemble Devastator after work.

@  Nevermore : (03 July 2020 - 06:58 AM)

Ooooh. Overload arrived. He's surprisingly fun.

@  Bass X0 : (02 July 2020 - 04:00 PM)

He's sweeter than the average bear.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 July 2020 - 03:14 PM)

Convert him to Maple Syrup.

@  Bass X0 : (02 July 2020 - 03:10 PM)

what would Canada do with Yogi?

@  Cyoti : (01 July 2020 - 12:51 PM)

We can deport Yogi back to Canada now.

@  Sabrblade : (01 July 2020 - 12:50 PM)

Jellystone National Pawk. A westful wetweat.


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:26 PM

At least you know where you stand with the larger than average fish man
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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:32 PM

Good old Chaotic Neutrals.
 
 
Also, You can read most of Lovecraft's junk over here since it's public domain.

And here I paid money like a sucker
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I've got that one.

The title was a lie. It's not complete. But it still beats the gazillion "X and Other Tales" type collections we used to have to put up with.

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:24 PM

At least you know where you stand with the larger than average fish man


Same place you stand with all of them. You are their lunch. :)
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Posted 01 March 2018 - 10:08 PM

San book thicc AF



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Posted 01 March 2018 - 10:17 PM

I've read a lot of Lovecraft's stuff and enjoyed it, and his contribution to our popular culture is incredible. My pulp exploration subsequently led me to REH, and I found I enjoyed his work a lot more. So these days I'd be more likely to pick up Kull or Solomon Kane than a Lovecraft book.

I enjoyed, uh, that one game a while back. Dark Corners of the Earth in oh god 2005?!

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 10:58 PM

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I need to actually, like, read this book I got. Started reading it, then started skipping to the famous stories, then kinda just stopped and left it to collect dust under my bed next to all those other books and movies I need to get to...



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Posted 04 March 2018 - 11:46 AM

Just finished The Case of Charles Dexter Ward. So his great, great ancestor from the 16th century was practicing dark magic. The townsfolk found and and killed him for it. But before he did he casted a spell that compelled his descendant and lookalike to investigate his death leading him to discover necromancy and calling him back from the grave to possess his body. Like a time delayed resurrection spell. The only thing that stopped him was the psychologist that discovered the truth, believed in it's magic and learned how to use a counter spell to send him back to the grave. A very fun story to read.


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Posted 04 March 2018 - 12:04 PM

It would have made a good pre-1970s horror movie.



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 07:54 PM

Just read Whispers in the Night. I believe this is the first story to explain how vast the cosmos is. That our universe is just an atom in the infinite mass of the cosmos. It name dropped a lot of the outer gods as being real instead of just possible myths cults worshipped. It even predicted that would be a planet discovered after Neptune called "Yuggoth." Sadly, we mistakenly called it Pluto and it wasn't a planet at all.

 

He mistakenly thought the void of space was filled with something called ether. Both Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein thought the universe was as filled with ether as well. Einstein changed his mind on the existence of ether later in life.

 

In Whispers in the Night, Lovecraft said the outer beings came to earth to mine black ore and flew through space with wings in the ether to their outpost on Pluto. People could make the journey but the outer beings had to transport your brain in a metal container and fit it to a robot at whatever place they took it and could easily return your brain back to your body that was kept in statis back on earth.


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 08:15 PM

That's, uh ... you're a little variously misinformed there, Snowy. Ether was a theory for the propagation of light disproved in 1887, in Einstein's childhood. It was not taken seriously in his adulthood.* Pluto was not the proposed ninth planet that pops up in the ghosts of gravitational-mechanical mathematics from time to time, as it was initially presumed to be until the mass estimates worked their way down, but that projected planet had been variously proposed before Pluto was discovered the same year The Whisperer in Darkness was written. It was not the first: Neptune was discovered in perturbations of the orbit of Uranus before it was ever identified optically, which is to say, it was a predicted eighth planet.

 

Lovecraft, more importantly, wasn't "predicting" anything. He wrote fiction. Not even really the speculative kind.

 

* Notice too that General and Special Relativity do not work if there's an ether. They were most certainly not late discoveries in Einstein's life. 


Edited by Copper Bezel, 07 March 2018 - 08:18 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
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Posted 07 March 2018 - 09:26 PM

Albert Einstein in 1894 or 1895: "The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the elastic forces which cause [its] propagation, and inversely proportional to the mass of the aether moved by these forces."

 

Albert Einstein in 1920: "We may say that according to the general theory of relativity space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists an Aether. According to the general theory of relativity space without Aether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time, nor therefore any space-time intervals in the physical sense. But this Aether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time. The idea of motion may not be applied to it."

 

The thing about science is just because something is disproved doesn't mean people will universally accept it and still won't try to challenge it. Einstein was under the impression ether was a real thing some 40 years later. It only fell out of use with the discovery of quantum physics. 

 

Lovecraft was a friction writer, but he seemed to know a little to much about things he shouldn't...


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 09:41 PM

Not really. Have you ever read science fiction? Drawing from outdated science ideas as a kind of mythology or picking possible answers to known questions is great fun, but writers of purposefully speculative fiction tend to make better guesses and there's nothing notable in what you mention from Lovecraft.

 

On Einstein, may well have quoted from the same page:

 

Hendrik Lorentz and George Francis FitzGerald offered within the framework of Lorentz ether theory a more elegant solution to how the motion of an absolute aether could be undetectable (length contraction), but if their equations were correct, Albert Einstein's 1905 special theory of relativity could generate the same mathematics without referring to an aether at all. This led most physicists to conclude that this early modern notion of a luminiferous aether was not a useful concept. Einstein however stated that this consideration was too radical and too anticipatory and that his theory of relativity still needed the presence of a medium with certain properties.

 

And in the second quote you did grab, "this Aether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time", which is to say that regardless of what he called it, he's describing a property of space, not a kind of matter in it. 

 

In this vague, "thing sounds like thing", Quranic apologetics sense you're applying, the real and proper "ether" was eventually discovered in quantum physics in the form of virtual particles - which share with Einstein's version the invariance required by relativity, but in fact does have particles that move!


Edited by Copper Bezel, 07 March 2018 - 09:41 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 08 March 2018 - 04:09 PM

Have you ever read science fiction?

Given that you do know I'm reading Lovecraft and by your question I can only assume you do not consider Lovecraft to be science fiction. A bold proclamation indeed, but if that is how you feel I'll accept it.

 

 

And in the second quote you did grab, "this Aether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time", which is to say that regardless of what he called it, he's describing a property of space, not a kind of matter in it. 

 

In this vague, "thing sounds like thing", Quranic apologetics sense you're applying, the real and proper "ether" was eventually discovered in quantum physics in the form of virtual particles - which share with Einstein's version the invariance required by relativity, but in fact does have particles that move!

It is irrelevant what they learned at a later date, the interest I have is with what was the popular scientific belief at the time of Lovecraft writing his books. Even if they discovered there was no ether before he wrote his books, that information wasn't circulated in the public well enough before he started writing.

 

It is fascinating to learn that they knew there was a void in space for centuries but didn't have our modern day concepts of a vacuum at the time. They imagined it was more like a field that they called ether out there. And Lovecraft's monsters flew through this field of ether in space...


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Posted 08 March 2018 - 05:02 PM

I'm pretty sure the concept of a vacuum is entirely separate from that of space.

Tesla and Edison were working with evacuated tubes in the late 1800's.

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 05:52 PM

Given that you do know I'm reading Lovecraft and by your question I can only assume you do not consider Lovecraft to be science fiction. A bold proclamation indeed, but if that is how you feel I'll accept it.

 

Well, I wouldn't consider Poe and Hawthorne science fiction writers, either, and what I've seen of Lovecraft is very much in the vein of that tradition. I haven't read this novella, which certainly sounds to be built on some sci-fi standbys at the very least. Probably the better thing to say to have said is that writers who are more chiefly concerned with speculation and prediction are likely to have more success at it.

 

It is irrelevant what they learned at a later date, the interest I have is with what was the popular scientific belief at the time of Lovecraft writing his books.

 

You described him as uniquely prescient:

 

Lovecraft was a friction writer, but he seemed to know a little to much about things he shouldn't...

 

All I'm saying is that he's definitely not. Taking two A or B, 50/50 questions that had existed in science and were in the process of being definitively answered isn't unusually prescient, and getting both wrong doesn't help. It shows he was interested in those kinds of questions, and that's great, it's a wonderful depth to plumb from a creative standpoint. 

 

It is fascinating to learn that they knew there was a void in space for centuries but didn't have our modern day concepts of a vacuum at the time. They imagined it was more like a field that they called ether out there. And Lovecraft's monsters flew through this field of ether in space...

 

The ether was a proposed fix for an apparent contradiction: if electromagnetic radiation was a wave, and a wave requires a medium, how could it propagate in empty space? The eventual answer was that EM waves (and later others) just didn't require a medium. "Ether" comes from the phrase "luminiferous ether", "luminiferous" simply meaning "light-bearing". The existence of true vacuums or truly empty space has been on again, off again through the whole history of science and natural philosophy.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 08 March 2018 - 05:53 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 08 March 2018 - 06:16 PM

Anyone else watched The Void?
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Posted 08 March 2018 - 06:38 PM

Anyone else watched The Void?

I used to, but then the void started watching back.

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 06:41 PM

I tried once. It blinked.

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 06:59 PM

The void was in all of us all along.



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Posted 08 March 2018 - 11:02 PM

I tried once. It blinked.

Your stomach can blink?




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