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@  Sabrblade : (13 August 2020 - 10:31 PM)

Turns out the President set the whole thing up as a publicity stunt. Very rude.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?


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#41 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 04:23 AM

Not sure I like the concept of "different design direction" at all, since I'm rather happy with the Generations aesthetic and if it veers so far as to not look "right" together on the same shelf then my interest nosedives. I've got too big an "investment" in the current "look" toys to want to do all the same characters again in a new ethos.

Also, "bridge what different markets find desirable in a design" seems strange to me. Is there a market where some alternate aesthetic is way more popular than Generations? Size/price favored varies by market, but look? I suppose maybe that will mean more when we see them.

That said, weirdly maybe, I react much more positively to the idea that somehow these toys are different enough at a fundamental level that the 2 pack Deluxes literally Could Not be reused from the old lines. Like what the hell does that mean? Do all the new figures have some sort of gadget or gimmick that is an intrinsic part of them? Does it have something to do with their being 2-packs? Do they interact with each other somehow? Electronics seems doubtful financially, but... huh. I'm just really intreagued by what that could mean and that they're doing something THAT different as I kinda expected WFC to mostly be more of the same. Big change is at least something new.


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 04:27 AM

Maybe the new design direction is 'personality' and 'character design', that'd be a neat gimmick to have again.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 05:46 AM

Hopefully they pick characters from other continuities but midly G1ify, not too much that they lose anything cool about them but enough as to not stand out, like an Autoboot camp Bulkhead, or a Wasp, Cybertron Defense team? (Might be a bit redundant they're pretty blocky and classics was fairly Cybertron friendly) maybe the colonists from TAAO can be their, they've done Elita now throw in Strika and Airrazor, Slide maybe? Do a BattleClash and the other one with the Micromaster combiners?



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 05:54 AM

I have no idea how any of the infobites dropped actually come together...

But War Dawn style alt modes with less toy like design and meshing things different people like still says hovercar Bumblebee but now with the hard elbow jab that Aileron would be his repaint.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 05:58 AM

Thank god. One line that looks like POTP is enough thank you.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:01 AM

"'gritty' [ugh] realism"

Everyone will be in varying shades of gray, brown and dull green because this is a war and in war there is no color or personality or individualism. :wtf

 

...Then again I'm one to talk, as I'd actually like to see them finally make mass-release Deluxe Autotroopers in this next line. :p



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:04 AM

If we are going to have any G1 characters I want to see the Pretender characters used and not have their design be based on their shell.



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:05 AM

The "bridging the gap between the aesthetics that different areas of the world enjoy" thing 100% sounds to me like "looks more movie-ish". Asian markets have generally been very into the movies/movie aesthetic, right?

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:11 AM

I have no idea how any of the infobites dropped actually come together...

But War Dawn style alt modes with less toy like design and meshing things different people like still says hovercar Bumblebee but now with the hard elbow jab that Aileron would be his repaint.


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:19 AM

The "bridging the gap between the aesthetics that different areas of the world enjoy" thing 100% sounds to me like "looks more movie-ish". Asian markets have generally been very into the movies/movie aesthetic, right?


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:26 AM

I could be into movie-y tetrajets. We've seen some bad attempts at jamming together movie and G1 design elements, but I like the movie designs far more than the movies they're in so I'm always up to see another attempt.

Since it's a prequel, I expect this will function as a prequel to basically whatever universe you like; actual movie, unspecified G1, whatever. Like how Beast Wars followed whatever G1 you wanted so long as you didn't over think it.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:36 AM

"'gritty' [ugh] realism"

Everyone will be in varying shades of gray, brown and dull green because this is a war and in war there is no color or personality or individualism. :wtf
 
...Then again I'm one to talk, as I'd actually like to see them finally make mass-release Deluxe Autotroopers in this next line. :p

I'd love for them to do mass retail generics again...

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 07:33 AM

Has anything been said that it will be a prequel? Other than the IDW reboot being the biggest clue that it's back to basics? Because I am really sold on this being the "all the weird colonists that don't have Earth alt-mode toyline and some G1 losers".



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 07:40 AM

Has anything been said that it will be a prequel? Other than the IDW reboot being the biggest clue that it's back to basics? Because I am really sold on this being the "all the weird colonists that don't have Earth alt-mode toyline and some G1 losers".


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 08:36 AM

I'm hoping that we get some Cybertronian-mode-only characters like a proper Impactor (I barely know Tor) and Rack'n'Ruin.



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 08:39 AM

Impactor is one of the choices for the WFC Fan Vote. Stuff that ballot box if you want one!

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 08:48 AM

Having thought about this line, I think its the desginers of the toys wanted an excuse to let loose a bit and desgin some figures with alt modes that do not conform to Earth standard vehicles, so they could desgin something a bit more far out there, plus they would not have the limitation of basing the desgins on video game models or movie desgins, in other words they got some shackles taken off, then again it could be, when the cat away, the mice will play!


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 09:14 AM

So hopefully we will get the Dynobots Cybertronian alt modes. I love the dino modes but to see them in their big artillery designed modes from the books would be cool. If they ever did it, I would assume it would be toward the end of the next trilogy though. It definitely seems like Omega Supreme would make a great candidate for the next Titan. Can't wait to see those Tetra Jet designs.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 09:16 AM

It also seems like a great time to give us Devcon, Dion, Impactor and Ariel, since they are already talking about Alpha Trion.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 09:25 AM

I'm just hoping for decent alternate modes and not the usual "hey this robot is doing yoga, it's 'cybertronian'".  And no visible heads.





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