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@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN

@  PlutoniumBoss : (31 July 2020 - 03:04 PM)

Bueller? Bueller?

@  Jet : (31 July 2020 - 11:31 AM)

DONKEY!

@  Maximus Ambus : (31 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

Spanner

@  Xaaron : (31 July 2020 - 06:49 AM)

Jetstorm

@  Nevermore : (31 July 2020 - 05:33 AM)

Tankor

@  SG Roadbuster : (31 July 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Overrun

@  lastmaximal : (31 July 2020 - 01:33 AM)

Buckethead

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 07:15 PM)

Now I wonder how many Transformers we can name with the fewest possible different names.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:38 PM)

Ransack. That's like another 20 or so.


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#41 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 04:23 AM

Not sure I like the concept of "different design direction" at all, since I'm rather happy with the Generations aesthetic and if it veers so far as to not look "right" together on the same shelf then my interest nosedives. I've got too big an "investment" in the current "look" toys to want to do all the same characters again in a new ethos.

Also, "bridge what different markets find desirable in a design" seems strange to me. Is there a market where some alternate aesthetic is way more popular than Generations? Size/price favored varies by market, but look? I suppose maybe that will mean more when we see them.

That said, weirdly maybe, I react much more positively to the idea that somehow these toys are different enough at a fundamental level that the 2 pack Deluxes literally Could Not be reused from the old lines. Like what the hell does that mean? Do all the new figures have some sort of gadget or gimmick that is an intrinsic part of them? Does it have something to do with their being 2-packs? Do they interact with each other somehow? Electronics seems doubtful financially, but... huh. I'm just really intreagued by what that could mean and that they're doing something THAT different as I kinda expected WFC to mostly be more of the same. Big change is at least something new.


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 04:27 AM

Maybe the new design direction is 'personality' and 'character design', that'd be a neat gimmick to have again.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 05:46 AM

Hopefully they pick characters from other continuities but midly G1ify, not too much that they lose anything cool about them but enough as to not stand out, like an Autoboot camp Bulkhead, or a Wasp, Cybertron Defense team? (Might be a bit redundant they're pretty blocky and classics was fairly Cybertron friendly) maybe the colonists from TAAO can be their, they've done Elita now throw in Strika and Airrazor, Slide maybe? Do a BattleClash and the other one with the Micromaster combiners?



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 05:54 AM

I have no idea how any of the infobites dropped actually come together...

But War Dawn style alt modes with less toy like design and meshing things different people like still says hovercar Bumblebee but now with the hard elbow jab that Aileron would be his repaint.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 05:58 AM

Thank god. One line that looks like POTP is enough thank you.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:01 AM

"'gritty' [ugh] realism"

Everyone will be in varying shades of gray, brown and dull green because this is a war and in war there is no color or personality or individualism. :wtf

 

...Then again I'm one to talk, as I'd actually like to see them finally make mass-release Deluxe Autotroopers in this next line. :p



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:04 AM

If we are going to have any G1 characters I want to see the Pretender characters used and not have their design be based on their shell.



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:05 AM

The "bridging the gap between the aesthetics that different areas of the world enjoy" thing 100% sounds to me like "looks more movie-ish". Asian markets have generally been very into the movies/movie aesthetic, right?

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:11 AM

I have no idea how any of the infobites dropped actually come together...

But War Dawn style alt modes with less toy like design and meshing things different people like still says hovercar Bumblebee but now with the hard elbow jab that Aileron would be his repaint.


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:19 AM

The "bridging the gap between the aesthetics that different areas of the world enjoy" thing 100% sounds to me like "looks more movie-ish". Asian markets have generally been very into the movies/movie aesthetic, right?


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:26 AM

I could be into movie-y tetrajets. We've seen some bad attempts at jamming together movie and G1 design elements, but I like the movie designs far more than the movies they're in so I'm always up to see another attempt.

Since it's a prequel, I expect this will function as a prequel to basically whatever universe you like; actual movie, unspecified G1, whatever. Like how Beast Wars followed whatever G1 you wanted so long as you didn't over think it.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:36 AM

"'gritty' [ugh] realism"

Everyone will be in varying shades of gray, brown and dull green because this is a war and in war there is no color or personality or individualism. :wtf
 
...Then again I'm one to talk, as I'd actually like to see them finally make mass-release Deluxe Autotroopers in this next line. :p

I'd love for them to do mass retail generics again...

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 07:33 AM

Has anything been said that it will be a prequel? Other than the IDW reboot being the biggest clue that it's back to basics? Because I am really sold on this being the "all the weird colonists that don't have Earth alt-mode toyline and some G1 losers".



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 07:40 AM

Has anything been said that it will be a prequel? Other than the IDW reboot being the biggest clue that it's back to basics? Because I am really sold on this being the "all the weird colonists that don't have Earth alt-mode toyline and some G1 losers".


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 08:36 AM

I'm hoping that we get some Cybertronian-mode-only characters like a proper Impactor (I barely know Tor) and Rack'n'Ruin.



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 08:39 AM

Impactor is one of the choices for the WFC Fan Vote. Stuff that ballot box if you want one!

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 08:48 AM

Having thought about this line, I think its the desginers of the toys wanted an excuse to let loose a bit and desgin some figures with alt modes that do not conform to Earth standard vehicles, so they could desgin something a bit more far out there, plus they would not have the limitation of basing the desgins on video game models or movie desgins, in other words they got some shackles taken off, then again it could be, when the cat away, the mice will play!


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 09:14 AM

So hopefully we will get the Dynobots Cybertronian alt modes. I love the dino modes but to see them in their big artillery designed modes from the books would be cool. If they ever did it, I would assume it would be toward the end of the next trilogy though. It definitely seems like Omega Supreme would make a great candidate for the next Titan. Can't wait to see those Tetra Jet designs.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 09:16 AM

It also seems like a great time to give us Devcon, Dion, Impactor and Ariel, since they are already talking about Alpha Trion.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 09:25 AM

I'm just hoping for decent alternate modes and not the usual "hey this robot is doing yoga, it's 'cybertronian'".  And no visible heads.





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