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@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN

@  PlutoniumBoss : (31 July 2020 - 03:04 PM)

Bueller? Bueller?

@  Jet : (31 July 2020 - 11:31 AM)

DONKEY!

@  Maximus Ambus : (31 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

Spanner

@  Xaaron : (31 July 2020 - 06:49 AM)

Jetstorm

@  Nevermore : (31 July 2020 - 05:33 AM)

Tankor

@  SG Roadbuster : (31 July 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Overrun

@  lastmaximal : (31 July 2020 - 01:33 AM)

Buckethead

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 07:15 PM)

Now I wonder how many Transformers we can name with the fewest possible different names.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:38 PM)

Ransack. That's like another 20 or so.


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#21 Steevy Maximus

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:35 PM

HasLab goal of 3000.

 

PC buys 2500 to make sure.



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:37 PM

HasLab goal of 3000.

 

PC buys 2500 to make sure.

 

Still not sure what HasLab is...  :doh


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 10:07 PM

-ZacWilliam, there are some exclusives yet to be announced but that's it. WFC starts in Jan (which means Nov/Dec)

Technically, they haven't announced Inferno, Cindersaur, and Outback yet.

But, man, that means we only get 6 Prime Master molds, 5 Legends molds, 6 Deluxe molds, 3 Voyager molds, 3 Leader molds, and 1 Titan mold for this year of Generations. The rest are retools.

Edited by Creedence, 17 February 2018 - 10:14 PM.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 10:24 PM

Cybertronian alt modes has a lot more potential for being interesting than Earth-based alt modes I think. So I’m pretty okay with this whole thing.

As far as “prequel” and “story”... outside of maybe a Machinima tie-in, there isn’t much need to fear any actual narrative touching the line.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 10:27 PM

I want to see new characters created for this.



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 10:30 PM

If they actual meant "War Dawn" and not "War Within," maybe we'll get a Dion.



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 10:32 PM

I would bet it'll follow Prime Wars lead and we'll get a dash of new bots like Slash and Alpha Bravo but they'll be one or two a year rare.

-ZacWilliam, love to be wrong there though. Even one a Wave would be a bounty at this point...

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 10:39 PM

Every figure comes with one of the War Dawn Decepticon Cube-Men. So you can stack them in neat piles and then step back and appreciate how square they are.



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 10:41 PM

Every figure comes with one of the War Dawn Decepticon Cube-Men. So you can stack them in neat piles and then step back and appreciate how square they are.


Yes please?

-ZacWilliam. Seriously. Make them the master size class tiny guys. I will buy many many techs multicolor cubes!
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 10:52 PM

Just figure out something to do with the heads, and the Titan/Prime Masters are halfway there.

 

And if you do them as energon cubes, you can have them as a call back to these guys.



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:00 PM

Big Red with big jet crushing hands or we riot.

How does this get broken into a trilogy? What are the gimmicks? Do we still get little guys to provide a sense of scale for the big guys? Quintessons, who you plug into the robots and pretend are controlling them? Mini-Spies/Micromasters to drive around on the robots? Breastforce/cassette style animal partners being awesome? Cyberdroids/Dianauts doing something?

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:02 PM

Where was this stated to start in Jan? I didnt see any indication POTP was not an 18-month line.

 

That Novastar was the single new toy in her assortment in Wave 4 should have been a clue for all of us.

 

I mean, I noticed, but I didn't want to accept the truth.



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:18 PM

For a while now I've had the thought that I'd love to see a line using Animated-style engineering to make Cybertronian modes out of Dery models. Ideally models that we've never seen Cybertronian modes for. That way the robot modes can be as close to having stepped off the screen as possible without Masterpiece-level fiddliness, since the alt-modes could be anything that flows naturally from them.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:31 PM

Here we go. From Ben Yee reporting from the Hasbro panel:

https://twitter.com/...946139031228417

"(They) Want to tell the story of the war on Cybertron before they came to Earth. NOT based on the video games. #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #Transformers"

-ZacWilliam, so that seems pretty clear

 

I've been thinking on how to elaborate on why I'm so tepid on this, and I think it's that this story's just been told. So many times. With little variation.

 

Even IDW failed to really add much to it, it just expanded on stuff Aligned laid the seeds for.

 

This is the least necessary TF story to explore, save for anything involving Unicron and the events of TFTM.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:49 PM

I'll be overjoyed if this toylines gets us RID2015 designs.


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 12:45 AM

I'm over here hoping that if its a prequel they can inject the Colony worlds concept in from the begining. So we don't have "lost" colonies, but still have Caminus Eukaris, Devisun et al represented in the current toyline.

I just want a legends class Aileron and more ladybots dammit. Some more mech-y beast bots too.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 01:03 AM

As a kid I always wanted to see more of their Cybertronian modes so the occasional episode there they went to Cybertron were my among favorites, but over the years I got stuff like Cybertron/GF Starscream and the WfC and FoC games and toys satisfied that very well.

 

I do hope they make Ironhide in his game and RiD15 body, always wanted a toy of that.

 

 

And it crossed my mind that I hope they still use the Colony worlds.



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 01:53 AM

http://tfuinfo.blubr...-toy-fair-2018/

 

In this interview, the Hasbro team talks about how they want to take the next trilogy in a different design direction, and there's stuff about bridging the gap between the aesthetics that different areas of the world enjoy.  

 

Which sounds to me like WFC2-or-whatever might be a little movie-y, who knows.  



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 02:11 AM

Additionally, they talk about how the next Fan Choice two-sets couldn't possibly be redecos/retools of any Prime Wars toys for reasons that will be obvious to us once we know more about the next toyline.  



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 02:27 AM

The reference to "'gritty' [ugh] realism" and less toyetic designs than Power of the Primes is actually pretty good news. Wonder whether that's going to mean something more like what Studio Series looks like on the shelf.


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Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 




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