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@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2021 - 02:19 PM)

"Fix fics" are their own entire category of fanfiction.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 May 2021 - 01:32 PM)

Is fanfic "fixing" an author's story? (Often it is, I think.)

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 May 2021 - 12:15 PM)

I don't think people repainting and such are nessicarly "Fixing" a toy, just modding it to their likes. The problem is when they go around claiming to have "Fixed' it, that I feel it becomes a problem.

@  CORVUS : (17 May 2021 - 08:41 AM)

"I was gonna buy some Toyhax labels for Earthrise Auto-Whatsit, but since I'd be disrespecting the artistic expression of the designers, I think I'll just forget the whole thing."

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2021 - 06:41 AM)

Like, in general, not going into specific bands or covers. Because I could point out plenty of repainted toys I didn't like as much as the original, too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2021 - 06:39 AM)

Is a musician covering a song "fixing" it?

@  Nevermore : (17 May 2021 - 05:15 AM)

So, then, isn't redecoing or retooling an existing toy also "fixing" someone else's art?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 10:07 PM)

A toy is not on the same level as a piece of drawn art, true, but it is 100% an entertainment product.

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 05:05 PM)

A toy is an object of utility, Comparing that to a piece of drawn art is grossly ignoring the difference between the two. Also, you didn't answer my questions. Try again.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:25 PM)

Part of the difference is that those covers are primarily one person's art. Sure, you probably have an inker and a colorist, but the lines and composition are one person. A toy however is a team design at pretty much all levels.

@  Cyoti : (16 May 2021 - 03:52 PM)

toymaking is a collaborative process, you have to make compromises and factories are going to get things wrong

@  tigerhawk : (16 May 2021 - 03:43 PM)

Earthrise had a few holes, Runamuck's legs YIKES!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 03:37 PM)

I doubt that say, the designer for Kingdom Cheetor was happy about every bit of unpainted plastic on it.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:28 PM)

J Scott Campbell recently had his Spiderman cover "fixed" by someone online. A few weeks ago, someone on twitter "fixed" someone's Sonic the Hedgehog fan art where Sonic, Tails and Knuckles were drawn as humans. Both times and other times, the "fixer" gets called out and criticised as you shouldn't go around "fixing" someone else's art because its rude and disrespectful to the original artist. And I was thinking isn't "fixed your s*** for ya" exactly what toy customisers do?

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

Have you ever changed your car in any way whatsoever compared to the factory configuration, or are you leaving the designer's art unchanged in that case as well?

@  CORVUS : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

It's best not to ponder it too hard.

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 04:16 AM)

Bass X0, I really wonder sometimes how you come up with these random tangents apropos of nothing.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:11 AM)

It's collaborative art.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 04:07 AM)

Toys are subject to budget constraints, so its not like customizing would ruin the designer's vision or whatever.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:38 AM)

Isn't customising a toy just "fixing other people's art"?

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Oops, All Berries

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Nope, Chuck Testa.

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@  TheMightyMol... : (13 May 2021 - 04:41 PM)

Yeah, my hybrid does that when idling or at low speeds. Otherwise it's almost completely silent.

@  ZakuConvoy : (13 May 2021 - 02:27 PM)

That might actually be a fake noise they make electric cars make so pedestrians can hear them. Some cars even let you pick out what noise they make.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 May 2021 - 11:20 AM)

Actually heard a car with that electric, scifi-hum to it. Made me realize that we kinda are living in the future...

@  tigerhawk : (13 May 2021 - 03:28 AM)

Nearly thirty Studio Series figs including the '86 line. "I won't touch that." I said a few years ago when deluxe wave 5 came to my store for a tenner each. My latest one' is 72 Starscream.


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 07:58 PM

We'll need one eventually so, why not now.

What do we know?

It's a trilogy starting in Jan 2019 (Meaning Nov/Dec 2018) following the style of Prime Wars. It's about fighting on Cybertron before the TFs came to Earth and is inspired by War Dawn and Tetra-jets and such from G1.

Random thoughts:

I think there's two obvious ways this could go: 84 to 85 guys all redone to be Cybertronian OR continuing like Prime Wars but with a new name and mixing 84-86 redup with an ample helping on 87-90whatever. Either could "fit" this theme.

The Titan Master/Prime Master pricepoint seems to be doing well for Hasbro. I expect they'll want to keep it around. I have to wonder how they'll do that. Maybe Micromaster/Minicon homages? Or something new?

Ooo, I just realized that this setting is totally the home of the Guardian Robots, isn't it? That makes Omega Supreme feel like a really good fit for a 2019 Titan figure.

Hmm... Hasbro said at Hascon that they are aware we really want guys like Ape Face and Snapdragon that Titans Return skipped... they made it sound like they were on that... but those guys are pretty dependent on animal modes that don't seem to gel with this theme... hmmm...

I'll be curious if it'll follow suit with how PotP reused molds and ideas from CW and TR and continue with CW style combiners here and there.


-ZacWilliam, I doubt we'll learn much more before SDCC in July, if then. Lots of time to speculate...

Edited by Broadside, 18 January 2019 - 07:28 AM.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:14 PM

So where has it been said it was going to be a "prequel" series?  I missed that somewhere, still not unconvinced that people are misconstruing the name with the game prequel with the same name.

 

That in mind, I'm saying it's going to be "Cyberverse: Generations" with a little bit of Galaxy Force thrown in for variety.  Hasbro putting a LOT of resources into Authentics/Evergreen/Cyberverse, and I don't see the collector segment being left out.

 

And...I"m wondering if we'll see them move away from overt line-wide gimmicks this time?  With the increased focus on gimmicks in Cyberverse, maybe they'll hunker back down on designs, engineering, and characters.

The sub-$10 price point could be taken with Minicons/partner figures like we used to get in the Legends assortment before priced out.  That'd make them more "stand alone" and not line/gimmick dependent.  I'm also expecting the overall line price to finally get on par with Studio Series.  Maybe getting rid of those damned stickers in the process.

 

The arrival of HasLabs says to me that Hasbro might be willing to be more experimental, so maybe they'll leverage that venue to finish off some of the figures we didn't get in the prior lines.

 

 

After all, who wouldn't want a Voyager/Leader figure of THIS:

http://news.tfw2005....el-sheet-358874


Edited by Steevy Maximus, 17 February 2018 - 08:15 PM.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:20 PM

Pretty much anything post '85 could fit as far as altmodes go.

 

I don't see anything that would prevent Apeface or Snapdragon from appearing.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:21 PM

I figure it'll be '84/'85 guys done in MTMTE toon alt-modes. I don't remember "War Dawn," but that's what I think of when I think of TF's on Cybertron before they came to Earth.  It's the most logical design direction, especially if they're doing the Seekers.  So a pre-Earth Bumblebee, which is something I'd want, and a bunch of other guys, I guess.

 

I'd kind of like to see a Beast Machines aesthetic if we got any beasts though.  Not quite the mechanical animals of G1 or Transmetal Beast Wars.  Kind of like the cobra/snake guy they released, or that one tan/orange bull.  Less Ravage, more toy Terrasaur when it comes to designs.

 

Single-packed mini-cons or micromasters with minicon ports as a replacement for the Titan/Prime masters would be awesome.  Unbearably awesome. So awesome that I don't think the world could contain it's awesomeness. I'd prefer more standardized transformations (ala micromasters), but that's not a requirement. Just give me some updated micromasters already.*

 

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:23 PM

So where has it been said it was going to be a "prequel" series?  I missed that somewhere, still not unconvinced that people are misconstruing the name with the game prequel with the same name.
 


I was following 4 or so different twitter accounts from the presentation and I'm pretty sure multiple of them quoted Hasbro as to it being a prequel based on War Dawn and MTMTE and such. I mean it's always a scramble of quick typing during that stuff but it sounded pretty official and announced.

-ZacWilliam, if I have a chance I'll scan back through twitter.
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:28 PM

Here we go. From Ben Yee reporting from the Hasbro panel:

https://twitter.com/...946139031228417

"(They) Want to tell the story of the war on Cybertron before they came to Earth. NOT based on the video games. #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #Transformers"

-ZacWilliam, so that seems pretty clear

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 17 February 2018 - 08:29 PM.

Ever wonder about the speed of Turbofoxes?
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#7 Steevy Maximus

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:30 PM

Well, there I go.  Seems odd to launch it NOW when they still haven't announced anything for Transformers Zero....Unless it's farther ahead than we know and we'll get a real media project tied into this line.



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:34 PM

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:36 PM

I'd love to see some more generic cybertronians. Like the dropkick haulers from War Dawn, along with the decepticon warriors they carried.



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:37 PM

I just hope the line provides some good figures, I expect CW/TR/POTP molds to get reused in some fashion, the deluxes been pretty good at times, voyagers is a bit of a mixed bag. As for the story, the War before they came to Earth, IDW have covered some of that time frame in their comics unless IDW are planning a massive reboot of the comics, thou I doult that will happen any time soon, so I expect it likely take place after the Primacy comic, IF IDW do a comic adaption of it and then there is Machinima, if the deal between them and Hasbro is still on at that point, thinking about it, makes me dread their story.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:40 PM

Er, the thread's title. War for, not Fall of.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:43 PM

Here we go. From Ben Yee reporting from the Hasbro panel:

https://twitter.com/...946139031228417

"(They) Want to tell the story of the war on Cybertron before they came to Earth. NOT based on the video games. #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #Transformers"


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:43 PM

I'd never actually expect this to happen, but I'd love an Animated cybertronian Bumblebee/Hot Shot mold.




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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:52 PM

Er, the thread's title. War for, not Fall of.


I don't know what you'retalking about.

I didn't just go and fix that.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:01 PM

Where was this stated to start in Jan? I didnt see any indication POTP was not an 18-month line.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:03 PM

I am actually intrigued and hopeful about this line. I mean, if they're dead set on doing 84-85 stuff anyway, this seems like as good a spin as any to try and make it a little different.



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:06 PM



im expecting tetrajets with stickers
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:10 PM

Where was this stated to start in Jan? I didnt see any indication POTP was not an 18-month line.


TFU.Info reported it in their tweets from their interview with Hasbro at the show.

-ZacWilliam, there are some exclusives yet to be announced but that's it. WFC starts in Jan (which means Nov/Dec)

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 17 February 2018 - 09:11 PM.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:24 PM

Power of the Primes is only going to last 4 waves, and not all size classes get 4 waves (boooooo). So as Zac mentioned, First part of the New trilogy will start trickling Nov/Dec.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:34 PM

I want Skywarp in wave 1.


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