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@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 07:58 PM

We'll need one eventually so, why not now.

What do we know?

It's a trilogy starting in Jan 2019 (Meaning Nov/Dec 2018) following the style of Prime Wars. It's about fighting on Cybertron before the TFs came to Earth and is inspired by War Dawn and Tetra-jets and such from G1.

Random thoughts:

I think there's two obvious ways this could go: 84 to 85 guys all redone to be Cybertronian OR continuing like Prime Wars but with a new name and mixing 84-86 redup with an ample helping on 87-90whatever. Either could "fit" this theme.

The Titan Master/Prime Master pricepoint seems to be doing well for Hasbro. I expect they'll want to keep it around. I have to wonder how they'll do that. Maybe Micromaster/Minicon homages? Or something new?

Ooo, I just realized that this setting is totally the home of the Guardian Robots, isn't it? That makes Omega Supreme feel like a really good fit for a 2019 Titan figure.

Hmm... Hasbro said at Hascon that they are aware we really want guys like Ape Face and Snapdragon that Titans Return skipped... they made it sound like they were on that... but those guys are pretty dependent on animal modes that don't seem to gel with this theme... hmmm...

I'll be curious if it'll follow suit with how PotP reused molds and ideas from CW and TR and continue with CW style combiners here and there.


-ZacWilliam, I doubt we'll learn much more before SDCC in July, if then. Lots of time to speculate...

Edited by Broadside, 18 January 2019 - 07:28 AM.

Ever wonder about the speed of Turbofoxes?
Or the proverbial ailerons of Titanium Moosebots?

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#2 Steevy Maximus

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:14 PM

So where has it been said it was going to be a "prequel" series?  I missed that somewhere, still not unconvinced that people are misconstruing the name with the game prequel with the same name.

 

That in mind, I'm saying it's going to be "Cyberverse: Generations" with a little bit of Galaxy Force thrown in for variety.  Hasbro putting a LOT of resources into Authentics/Evergreen/Cyberverse, and I don't see the collector segment being left out.

 

And...I"m wondering if we'll see them move away from overt line-wide gimmicks this time?  With the increased focus on gimmicks in Cyberverse, maybe they'll hunker back down on designs, engineering, and characters.

The sub-$10 price point could be taken with Minicons/partner figures like we used to get in the Legends assortment before priced out.  That'd make them more "stand alone" and not line/gimmick dependent.  I'm also expecting the overall line price to finally get on par with Studio Series.  Maybe getting rid of those damned stickers in the process.

 

The arrival of HasLabs says to me that Hasbro might be willing to be more experimental, so maybe they'll leverage that venue to finish off some of the figures we didn't get in the prior lines.

 

 

After all, who wouldn't want a Voyager/Leader figure of THIS:

http://news.tfw2005....el-sheet-358874


Edited by Steevy Maximus, 17 February 2018 - 08:15 PM.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:20 PM

Pretty much anything post '85 could fit as far as altmodes go.

 

I don't see anything that would prevent Apeface or Snapdragon from appearing.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:21 PM

I figure it'll be '84/'85 guys done in MTMTE toon alt-modes. I don't remember "War Dawn," but that's what I think of when I think of TF's on Cybertron before they came to Earth.  It's the most logical design direction, especially if they're doing the Seekers.  So a pre-Earth Bumblebee, which is something I'd want, and a bunch of other guys, I guess.

 

I'd kind of like to see a Beast Machines aesthetic if we got any beasts though.  Not quite the mechanical animals of G1 or Transmetal Beast Wars.  Kind of like the cobra/snake guy they released, or that one tan/orange bull.  Less Ravage, more toy Terrasaur when it comes to designs.

 

Single-packed mini-cons or micromasters with minicon ports as a replacement for the Titan/Prime masters would be awesome.  Unbearably awesome. So awesome that I don't think the world could contain it's awesomeness. I'd prefer more standardized transformations (ala micromasters), but that's not a requirement. Just give me some updated micromasters already.*

 

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:23 PM

So where has it been said it was going to be a "prequel" series?  I missed that somewhere, still not unconvinced that people are misconstruing the name with the game prequel with the same name.
 


I was following 4 or so different twitter accounts from the presentation and I'm pretty sure multiple of them quoted Hasbro as to it being a prequel based on War Dawn and MTMTE and such. I mean it's always a scramble of quick typing during that stuff but it sounded pretty official and announced.

-ZacWilliam, if I have a chance I'll scan back through twitter.
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#6 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:28 PM

Here we go. From Ben Yee reporting from the Hasbro panel:

https://twitter.com/...946139031228417

"(They) Want to tell the story of the war on Cybertron before they came to Earth. NOT based on the video games. #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #Transformers"

-ZacWilliam, so that seems pretty clear

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 17 February 2018 - 08:29 PM.

Ever wonder about the speed of Turbofoxes?
Or the proverbial ailerons of Titanium Moosebots?

*Visit the one and only Cybertronic Bestiary.
For a mechazoologic tour of the mechanimals of Cybertron.


#7 Steevy Maximus

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:30 PM

Well, there I go.  Seems odd to launch it NOW when they still haven't announced anything for Transformers Zero....Unless it's farther ahead than we know and we'll get a real media project tied into this line.



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:34 PM

bleeeeeeeeeeeech


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:36 PM

I'd love to see some more generic cybertronians. Like the dropkick haulers from War Dawn, along with the decepticon warriors they carried.



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:37 PM

I just hope the line provides some good figures, I expect CW/TR/POTP molds to get reused in some fashion, the deluxes been pretty good at times, voyagers is a bit of a mixed bag. As for the story, the War before they came to Earth, IDW have covered some of that time frame in their comics unless IDW are planning a massive reboot of the comics, thou I doult that will happen any time soon, so I expect it likely take place after the Primacy comic, IF IDW do a comic adaption of it and then there is Machinima, if the deal between them and Hasbro is still on at that point, thinking about it, makes me dread their story.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:40 PM

Er, the thread's title. War for, not Fall of.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:43 PM

Here we go. From Ben Yee reporting from the Hasbro panel:

https://twitter.com/...946139031228417

"(They) Want to tell the story of the war on Cybertron before they came to Earth. NOT based on the video games. #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #Transformers"


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:43 PM

I'd never actually expect this to happen, but I'd love an Animated cybertronian Bumblebee/Hot Shot mold.




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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:52 PM

Er, the thread's title. War for, not Fall of.


I don't know what you'retalking about.

I didn't just go and fix that.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:01 PM

Where was this stated to start in Jan? I didnt see any indication POTP was not an 18-month line.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:03 PM

I am actually intrigued and hopeful about this line. I mean, if they're dead set on doing 84-85 stuff anyway, this seems like as good a spin as any to try and make it a little different.



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:06 PM



im expecting tetrajets with stickers
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:10 PM

Where was this stated to start in Jan? I didnt see any indication POTP was not an 18-month line.


TFU.Info reported it in their tweets from their interview with Hasbro at the show.

-ZacWilliam, there are some exclusives yet to be announced but that's it. WFC starts in Jan (which means Nov/Dec)

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 17 February 2018 - 09:11 PM.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:24 PM

Power of the Primes is only going to last 4 waves, and not all size classes get 4 waves (boooooo). So as Zac mentioned, First part of the New trilogy will start trickling Nov/Dec.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:34 PM

I want Skywarp in wave 1.


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