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@  ZakuConvoy : (20 January 2019 - 07:42 PM)

His one shots and two or three parters are great. But...Dark Age got a little long in the tooth. Not bad, but not my favorite.

@  ZakuConvoy : (20 January 2019 - 07:40 PM)

For me, it's less the delay, and more that Astro City is always best in smaller chunks. The longer story arcs (which is what the OGNs sound like they're aiming for), while not bad, are far from the high points of the series.

@  Nevermore : (20 January 2019 - 07:52 AM)

The recent ongoing series didn't start until what, 2013?

@  Nevermore : (20 January 2019 - 07:51 AM)

Then was continued as a five-issue mini-series ("Local Heroes"), then came a 16-issue maxi-series ("The Dark Age"), plus a couple of standalone specials and two-parters...

@  Nevermore : (20 January 2019 - 07:50 AM)

It started out as a series, but due to Busiek's health problems (?), it was put on hold after six issues, then got relaunched with a new #1, had several delays (again because of Busiek's health issues), was discontinued after #22...

@  Nevermore : (20 January 2019 - 07:49 AM)

I don't get why people are making such a big deal out of Astro City becoming a series of graphic novels now. I mean, it's not like it's always been a steady ongoing series.

@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 08:19 PM)

I'm also only reading the trades. So I'm still missing... two volumes that are currently only available as hardcovers? Three?

@  Trpodeca : (17 January 2019 - 06:22 PM)

Astro City is great. Since I only read the trades, there probably won't be a big change for me.

@  ZakuConvoy : (17 January 2019 - 05:34 PM)

I have. Great series. Hopefully the transition to OGNs will be a smooth one.

@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 07:20 AM)

Anyone here reading Kurt Busiek's Astro City?

@  Verity Carlo : (16 January 2019 - 01:12 PM)

https://sites.google...ations---part-1awwwww shit

@  Benbot : (16 January 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Remember the Noid? He steals pizzas!

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:47 AM)

That said, the old "Nester" character from Nintendo Power IS owned by Nintendo, and I could see a homage in there

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:46 AM)

Because technically DiC created the character, Nintendo does not own him.

@  Paladin : (16 January 2019 - 10:28 AM)

sidebar- why is "Captain N" not in Smash yet? that seems like such an easy option.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2019 - 09:18 AM)

The 90's mario cartoons had exactly three character aspects to work with: fat, italian and plumber. He wasn't exactly wrenching pipes in every episode, so they had to do something...

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 January 2019 - 07:31 AM)

It's in another castle.

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:24 AM)

i HOpE sHe mADe LotSA SPAGHETTI

@  Locoman : (16 January 2019 - 06:17 AM)

Mario, wherever you are, HEEEEEEEELP!

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:07 AM)

That's Mama Luigi to you, Mario *wheeze*

@  Pennpenn : (16 January 2019 - 02:24 AM)

It's too hot here.

@  Echowarrior : (15 January 2019 - 11:03 PM)

I liked the Super Mario Brothers Super Show the best myself.

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There's always the three Mario cartoons DiC made back in the 80s.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 09:48 PM)

So they could make a show that everyone would scream was an adventure time knockoff? I get what you're saying, but I can't see it being well received.

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 January 2019 - 08:47 PM)

The fact that Adventure Time was on the air for 8 years and at no point did Nintendo hand the creators a large sack of money and say, "Please make a Mario thing for us" will forever anger me.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 07:03 PM)

There was so much awesome put into design and conception of the super mario bros. movie, and it didn't even need the branding: but it wouldn't have made it to the screen without the branding.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:56 PM)

Many aspects of it have stuck in my memory, though. The boots, the devolution ray, the aesthetic of the dinosaur city

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

I had no idea there was another Mario Bros. movie coming out, though. Doubt it'll top the first one, it was just so bizarre

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

They already act a bit like minions; they just aren't stupid

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 05:35 PM)

The trouble is: I honestly can't decide if making them minions would be better or worse than the continuously shrill voices they've used for the last 20 years.

@  Paladin : (15 January 2019 - 05:27 PM)

hope everyone's ready for Toads to look, act & sound like the Minions forever...

@  Lancer : (15 January 2019 - 04:54 PM)

I mean, considering Illumination is making the new Mario movie, Super Mario Bros. 1993 won't be the worst Mario movie anymore

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 04:36 PM)

"Sir, your pizza's here." "Not now!"

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 04:28 PM)

Actually, yeah. I think I need to watch it again. Great movie.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 03:44 PM)

It's a fun movie with amazing sets. As long as you don't try to connect it to anything else Mario, it's fine.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 03:38 PM)

Damn, I haven't thought about the Super Mario Bros. feature film in forever. Need to watch it again, soon; I can only imagine it gets better with time.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Re:Zero is a fantastic series.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 03:10 PM)

Yeah it's not a bad concept, it's just that lately the term is associated with "I, a Loser Everyman, Woke Up In a Generic Fantasy Setting Where I'm Super Special So Now Girls Orbit Me"

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 12:59 PM)

So too is the old Super Mario Bros movie

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 12:28 PM)

I went and looked up the term "isekai"... that's not actually as bad as I thought it was going to be.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 12:19 PM)

I'm not sure, but the cartoon segments of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Wait. A. Minute. Is Blaster Master an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (15 January 2019 - 08:49 AM)

*Dragon Slave*

@  Xellos : (15 January 2019 - 06:22 AM)

I used to use a pic like that as my avatar for years, but that... is a secret.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 02:07 AM)

Is Flatland an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (14 January 2019 - 11:16 PM)

@Xellos Every time I see you post, I picture Xellos' infuriating smug grin and finger waggling with the "sore wa hi*mi*tsu*desu <3"

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 09:50 PM)

The Last Starfighter is also one of those

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

Astronaut gets shot through a wornhole and ends up on a living starship full of escaped alien prisoners.

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

I realized a few months ago that Farscape is a sci-fi-based Isekai.

@  Sabrblade : (14 January 2019 - 09:03 PM)

The Thor movies and Enchanted, as well.


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 07:58 PM

We'll need one eventually so, why not now.

What do we know?

It's a trilogy starting in Jan 2019 (Meaning Nov/Dec 2018) following the style of Prime Wars. It's about fighting on Cybertron before the TFs came to Earth and is inspired by War Dawn and Tetra-jets and such from G1.

Random thoughts:

I think there's two obvious ways this could go: 84 to 85 guys all redone to be Cybertronian OR continuing like Prime Wars but with a new name and mixing 84-86 redup with an ample helping on 87-90whatever. Either could "fit" this theme.

The Titan Master/Prime Master pricepoint seems to be doing well for Hasbro. I expect they'll want to keep it around. I have to wonder how they'll do that. Maybe Micromaster/Minicon homages? Or something new?

Ooo, I just realized that this setting is totally the home of the Guardian Robots, isn't it? That makes Omega Supreme feel like a really good fit for a 2019 Titan figure.

Hmm... Hasbro said at Hascon that they are aware we really want guys like Ape Face and Snapdragon that Titans Return skipped... they made it sound like they were on that... but those guys are pretty dependent on animal modes that don't seem to gel with this theme... hmmm...

I'll be curious if it'll follow suit with how PotP reused molds and ideas from CW and TR and continue with CW style combiners here and there.


-ZacWilliam, I doubt we'll learn much more before SDCC in July, if then. Lots of time to speculate...

Edited by Broadside, 18 January 2019 - 07:28 AM.

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#2 Steevy Maximus

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:14 PM

So where has it been said it was going to be a "prequel" series?  I missed that somewhere, still not unconvinced that people are misconstruing the name with the game prequel with the same name.

 

That in mind, I'm saying it's going to be "Cyberverse: Generations" with a little bit of Galaxy Force thrown in for variety.  Hasbro putting a LOT of resources into Authentics/Evergreen/Cyberverse, and I don't see the collector segment being left out.

 

And...I"m wondering if we'll see them move away from overt line-wide gimmicks this time?  With the increased focus on gimmicks in Cyberverse, maybe they'll hunker back down on designs, engineering, and characters.

The sub-$10 price point could be taken with Minicons/partner figures like we used to get in the Legends assortment before priced out.  That'd make them more "stand alone" and not line/gimmick dependent.  I'm also expecting the overall line price to finally get on par with Studio Series.  Maybe getting rid of those damned stickers in the process.

 

The arrival of HasLabs says to me that Hasbro might be willing to be more experimental, so maybe they'll leverage that venue to finish off some of the figures we didn't get in the prior lines.

 

 

After all, who wouldn't want a Voyager/Leader figure of THIS:

http://news.tfw2005....el-sheet-358874


Edited by Steevy Maximus, 17 February 2018 - 08:15 PM.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:20 PM

Pretty much anything post '85 could fit as far as altmodes go.

 

I don't see anything that would prevent Apeface or Snapdragon from appearing.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:21 PM

I figure it'll be '84/'85 guys done in MTMTE toon alt-modes. I don't remember "War Dawn," but that's what I think of when I think of TF's on Cybertron before they came to Earth.  It's the most logical design direction, especially if they're doing the Seekers.  So a pre-Earth Bumblebee, which is something I'd want, and a bunch of other guys, I guess.

 

I'd kind of like to see a Beast Machines aesthetic if we got any beasts though.  Not quite the mechanical animals of G1 or Transmetal Beast Wars.  Kind of like the cobra/snake guy they released, or that one tan/orange bull.  Less Ravage, more toy Terrasaur when it comes to designs.

 

Single-packed mini-cons or micromasters with minicon ports as a replacement for the Titan/Prime masters would be awesome.  Unbearably awesome. So awesome that I don't think the world could contain it's awesomeness. I'd prefer more standardized transformations (ala micromasters), but that's not a requirement. Just give me some updated micromasters already.*

 

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:23 PM

So where has it been said it was going to be a "prequel" series?  I missed that somewhere, still not unconvinced that people are misconstruing the name with the game prequel with the same name.
 


I was following 4 or so different twitter accounts from the presentation and I'm pretty sure multiple of them quoted Hasbro as to it being a prequel based on War Dawn and MTMTE and such. I mean it's always a scramble of quick typing during that stuff but it sounded pretty official and announced.

-ZacWilliam, if I have a chance I'll scan back through twitter.
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#6 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:28 PM

Here we go. From Ben Yee reporting from the Hasbro panel:

https://twitter.com/...946139031228417

"(They) Want to tell the story of the war on Cybertron before they came to Earth. NOT based on the video games. #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #Transformers"

-ZacWilliam, so that seems pretty clear

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 17 February 2018 - 08:29 PM.

Ever wonder about the speed of Turbofoxes?
Or the proverbial ailerons of Titanium Moosebots?

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#7 Steevy Maximus

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:30 PM

Well, there I go.  Seems odd to launch it NOW when they still haven't announced anything for Transformers Zero....Unless it's farther ahead than we know and we'll get a real media project tied into this line.



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:34 PM

bleeeeeeeeeeeech



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:36 PM

I'd love to see some more generic cybertronians. Like the dropkick haulers from War Dawn, along with the decepticon warriors they carried.



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:37 PM

I just hope the line provides some good figures, I expect CW/TR/POTP molds to get reused in some fashion, the deluxes been pretty good at times, voyagers is a bit of a mixed bag. As for the story, the War before they came to Earth, IDW have covered some of that time frame in their comics unless IDW are planning a massive reboot of the comics, thou I doult that will happen any time soon, so I expect it likely take place after the Primacy comic, IF IDW do a comic adaption of it and then there is Machinima, if the deal between them and Hasbro is still on at that point, thinking about it, makes me dread their story.


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#11 Creedence

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:40 PM

Er, the thread's title. War for, not Fall of.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:43 PM

Here we go. From Ben Yee reporting from the Hasbro panel:

https://twitter.com/...946139031228417

"(They) Want to tell the story of the war on Cybertron before they came to Earth. NOT based on the video games. #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #Transformers"


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"He learned, almost too late, that man is a feeling creature and, because of it, the greatest in the universe. He learned, too late for himself, that men have to make their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be any gift of perfection from outside ourselves. And, when men seek such perfection, they find there's only death, fire, loss, disillusionment, the end of everything that's gone forward. Men have always sought an end to toil and misery. It can't be given; it has to be achieved. There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from man himself."

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:43 PM

I'd never actually expect this to happen, but I'd love an Animated cybertronian Bumblebee/Hot Shot mold.




#14 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:52 PM

Er, the thread's title. War for, not Fall of.


I don't know what you'retalking about.

I didn't just go and fix that.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:01 PM

Where was this stated to start in Jan? I didnt see any indication POTP was not an 18-month line.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:03 PM

I am actually intrigued and hopeful about this line. I mean, if they're dead set on doing 84-85 stuff anyway, this seems like as good a spin as any to try and make it a little different.



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:06 PM



im expecting tetrajets with stickers
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:10 PM

Where was this stated to start in Jan? I didnt see any indication POTP was not an 18-month line.


TFU.Info reported it in their tweets from their interview with Hasbro at the show.

-ZacWilliam, there are some exclusives yet to be announced but that's it. WFC starts in Jan (which means Nov/Dec)

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 17 February 2018 - 09:11 PM.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:24 PM

Power of the Primes is only going to last 4 waves, and not all size classes get 4 waves (boooooo). So as Zac mentioned, First part of the New trilogy will start trickling Nov/Dec.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:34 PM

I want Skywarp in wave 1.


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