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@  RichardT1977 : (20 September 2020 - 02:29 PM)

I had an idea for a Spiral Zone/Go-Busters crossover fanfic...

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 06:35 PM)

I loved what was there, and think it's pretty ripe for "renegades" style reboot.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:13 PM)

It's a shame as I loved Spiral Zone, and the design from the Japanese Toyline of the same name are fantastic, I adore the monowheel motorbike.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:12 PM)

Hasbro doesn't seem to have any interest in doing anything with the TV show, haven't greenlit any attempt to rerelease it, and there have been approaches, so I think it may be aother one of Tonka's legal carcrashes where everyone involved owns a piece and it's not really worth anyone sticking their neck out to claim ownership.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I feel that homages and references would be a fun way to expand the GI Joe brand, and give a little love to lines that are unlikely to be acknowledged beyond such capacity.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I was under the impression that Bandai was more the character design aspects, not story or characters.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:55 PM)

Also isn't it in rights limbo, given how it's loosely based on concepts from a BanDai series much like GoBots?

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:52 PM)

We don't need a Spiral Zone reboot, in a decade or so we'll be living it.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 12:49 PM)

Yeah, but it would fundamentally change the base premise of both gijoe and spiral zone. It's either not the world spanning threat it was, or the zone riders are backed up by a competent force. Either way, you compromise the context of both.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:19 PM)

Akin to what was done with Matt Tracker in 2008.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

Again, not a PURE transplant, but an integration of ideas and concepts into the world of GI Joe.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

@Wonko The Cobra Overlord, with help from Dr. Mindbender and Cesspool, develops machines capable of generating a mind-controlling fog. GI Joe stalwarts Flint, Airtight, Lifeline, and Psyche-Out are joined by Colonal Courage to infiltrate these zones and disable the machines. Figures would sport hostile environment suits (Eco warriors cross with Spiral Zone) and make new versions of the mono-wheel vehicles.

@  Maximus Ambus : (19 September 2020 - 09:39 AM)

Hasbroverse.2 with bought properties: Bravestarr, Ulysses 31, Galaxy Rangers, Shadow Raiders, Manta Force, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, Mighty Orbots, Jem and Bigfoot and the Muscle Machines. Seamless.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 08:32 AM)

While acknoledging spiral zone would be pretty boss, I doubt they could actively integrate it into anything else: given the scale of the villains deeds.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:03 AM)

COPS, Spiral Zone, Shadow Strikers, Action Man, Centurions, MegaForce. They wouldn’t replicate the old lines, but simply acknowledging their existence would be nifty.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:01 AM)

I would love to see GI Joe become something of a “celebration of action figures”. Hasbro has SO MANY old action figure properties, and many could slot into the GI Joe umbrella with relative ease.

@  Otaku : (19 September 2020 - 12:04 AM)

G.I. Joe, CyberCOPS, and M.A.S.K. all seem like something that would work from Animated or Prime, though CyberCOPS might have been a bit trickier from Prime.

@  Sabrblade : (18 September 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Rik Alvarez originally wanted the last episode of Prime to spinoff into a new MASK reboot.

@  Otaku : (18 September 2020 - 08:19 PM)

The failed Hasbroverse reminds me how so many things could have been spun off from Transformers: Animated and (after that) Transformers: Prime.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 12:43 PM)

Requiem of the Wreckers was post-Revolution, but it was also, you know, a single issue.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:06 AM)

But Roche didn't have a series to keep out from the crossovers since Sins of the Wreckers was before Revolution.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:01 AM)

Oh wait, that post said Roche, not Barber.

@  Rycochet : (18 September 2020 - 10:46 AM)

And then seemed surprised nobody particlarly wanted it.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 10:25 AM)

Wasn't Barber among the editorial guys that pushed for Hasbroverse?

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 September 2020 - 10:19 AM)

He did it possibly due to 616 Spider-Mans marriage reset between Civil War and Secret Invasion.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 09:20 AM)

Bendis kept a tight leash on Ultimate Spider-Man because it was mostly set far away from Earth?

@  -LittleAutob... : (18 September 2020 - 08:49 AM)

I'm learning so much-

@  Maruten : (18 September 2020 - 04:21 AM)

At its worst it was better than MASK, sure.

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 September 2020 - 02:15 AM)

At it's worst it still stomped all over the failed Hasbroverse. Roberts and Roche kept their respective series well out of that one for the same reasons Bendis kept a tight leash on Ultimate Spider-Man when Loeb and Miller wanted greater control for Ultimatum.

@  Maruten : (17 September 2020 - 06:37 PM)

That's so accurate it's physically painful.

@  Rycochet : (17 September 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Red Dwarf of Transformers? An interesting, innovative and genuinely funny series that descended into a self referential mess of cliches that continues long after it should have been put out to pasture and rendered nerly everyone thoroughly unlikeable? That seems about right.

@  Bass X0 : (17 September 2020 - 01:59 PM)

MTMTE and Lost Light are the Red Dwarf of Transformers stories, as opposed to the others which are more like Star Wars and Star Trek.

@  Kalidor : (17 September 2020 - 01:37 PM)

Anyone in CONUS want a Skylynx for $100 shipped?

@  Maximus Ambus : (17 September 2020 - 01:34 PM)

Maybe an acquired taste in that's in that it's from a fan raised on the UK run where Transformers wasn't taken so seriously in many stories, especially some Earthforce standalones.

@  Paladin : (17 September 2020 - 09:47 AM)

so, terrible?

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 September 2020 - 09:26 AM)

Yeah I think at that point Lost Light is just the '86 movie without the soundtrack.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 September 2020 - 02:28 AM)

So, exctly what Triangleman just said.

@  Bass X0 : (17 September 2020 - 12:36 AM)

A few of the same characters.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 September 2020 - 12:07 AM)

Now having actually read Galaxies #10, I don't actually see what it has in common with Lost Light at all besides featuring Ultra Magnus, Chromedome, and a spaceship.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 September 2020 - 05:33 PM)

So, it's exactly like Lost Light, then.

@  Bass X0 : (16 September 2020 - 01:52 PM)

What if Lost Light was stripped bare of its charm and humor? Galaxies #10 is the answer.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 September 2020 - 01:49 PM)

I didn't mean "*exactly* 15 years ago and no other time."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 September 2020 - 12:27 AM)

I mean, the comment was about a linewide gimmick of 15 years ago, not a gimmick only present in a minority of toys from that year.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 September 2020 - 12:14 AM)

I'd like a western take on the UT for it's twentieth, like a annual CG or anime movie on Netflix that is a condensed retelling similar to the film Macross/Robotech: Do You Remember Love.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 September 2020 - 12:11 AM)

Giant Planet had them, Energon had a few. I've been disappointed in Siege for not having something for the Micromasters, Earthrise has with the base bots but they've been wasted here.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (15 September 2020 - 10:47 PM)

Wasn't 15 years ago Cyber Keys rather than Minicons?

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 September 2020 - 09:38 PM)

By and large, even the worst Minicons have some unique engineering or design elements. The nostalgia factor aside, Micromasters got pretty samey after you got several, especially the "proper" 89 series.

@  unluckiness : (15 September 2020 - 07:13 PM)

There's certainly a load of crummy ones to sift through

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 September 2020 - 05:29 PM)

Or both. There's some overlap.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 September 2020 - 03:19 PM)

People either hated minicons or became completely addicted to them.


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#1301 Thylacine 2000

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Posted 30 October 2019 - 01:58 PM

2020: "They can't top me finally making a Super Megatron"
2020: *holds own beer*

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Posted 30 October 2019 - 02:03 PM

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#1303 LV!

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Posted 30 October 2019 - 02:21 PM

That's actually much more horrific than either one guy with two heads or two separate guys joined at the shoulder, so sincere good job, Cyberverse!



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Posted 30 October 2019 - 02:55 PM

Fantastic, I was hoping for a Deluxe Grimlock and that one looks great, but he ends up being overshadowed by a... Ultra Rack n Ruin.



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Posted 30 October 2019 - 03:06 PM

That's actually much more horrific than either one guy with two heads or two separate guys joined at the shoulder, so sincere good job, Cyberverse!

 

They don't usually look quite so awkward, I think they had a bit of turbulence when that shot was taken.

Also unlike the G1 guys, this is how they were created. They're conjoined twins rather than people fused together to save their lives or as an experiment.



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Posted 30 October 2019 - 05:25 PM

Fantastic, I was hoping for a Deluxe Grimlock and that one looks great, but he ends up being overshadowed by a... Ultra Rack n Ruin.

 

There is also that Ultimate class Grimlock that a lot of people like.


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Posted 30 October 2019 - 05:54 PM

It's a little weird that they have helmets which aren't the actual canonical helmets which were also their only faces from 1986-2012.

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Posted 30 October 2019 - 06:24 PM

It's obviously hard to make out, but the flip-down helmets look to me to be dome-shaped heads with V-shaped slits in them

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Posted 30 October 2019 - 06:28 PM

It's obviously hard to make out, but the flip-down helmets look to me to be dome-shaped heads with V-shaped slits in them

 

It's especially hard to make out when you're wearing a flip-down helmet with a V-shaped slit in it.


I wonder if Rack n' Ruin ever make out.



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Posted 30 October 2019 - 07:01 PM

It's obviously hard to make out, but the flip-down helmets look to me to be dome-shaped heads with V-shaped slits in them


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Posted 30 October 2019 - 07:55 PM

also i'd totally forgotten that it's already canon that under those dome helmets are heads exactly like the ones in Cyberverse

 

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 02:28 PM

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Posted 04 November 2019 - 02:43 PM

FYI, the Target in Merrilville, In, had 3 of the Rainmakers 3-packs. Also, Scraplets and Rescue bots Whirl in helicopter and race car forms.

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Posted 06 November 2019 - 10:19 PM

So what's going on here?

 

 

 

First, these are already in a store somewhere?

 

New packaging style, but three of them say "Transformers: Bumblebee: Cyberverse Adventures" while one says "Transformers: Cyberverse: Battle for Cybertron".

 



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Posted 06 November 2019 - 10:25 PM

Malaysia, it says.

 

I wonder what that circular "Cybertronian _______" logo is on Bludgeon and not the other three.


Edited by LV!, 06 November 2019 - 10:25 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2019 - 10:30 PM

Maybe Whirl is part of a retailer exclusive assortment, while the remaining are the mass retail 2020 rebrand for Cyberverse?

 

Also possible that maybe Hasbro had a mid-production run change on what they wanted for the 2020 branding?  Or maybe a regional variation?

 

Hasbro HAS continued to sing the praises for how the Bumblebee film has performed, maybe they're trying to leverage that on Cyberverse with the last remnants of BB movie stuff cycling out of retail?



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Posted 06 November 2019 - 10:33 PM

My gut says last-minute branding change with a handful of the early version getting out, like the Roman-numeral "Transmetal II" packaging.



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Posted 06 November 2019 - 11:51 PM

Maybe "Battle for Cybertron" is 

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Posted 08 November 2019 - 10:24 PM

I wonder whether this Bumblebee branding is because they've decided Bumblebee 2 is the future.

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Posted 08 November 2019 - 10:33 PM

Someone on TFW said the show has been called "Bumblebee: Cyberverse Adventures" in some markets all along. I have made no effort to substantiate this.





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